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Special Report: "Halal Street" project launched in southern provinces

The Southern Border Provinces Administrative Center has said a project, “Halal Street,” has been launched to boost business activities in the three southern border provinces of Yala, Pattani, and Narathiwat.

The center plans to hold the project on a monthly basis in an effort to make halal food and services a business symbol in the Deep South of Thailand.

The first event, as part of the Halal Street project, was held in Yala province. Known as “Yala Halal Street,” it took place at the White Elephant Field Park in Mueang district. Situated in the town of Yala, the park features diverse plants and flowers and an exhibition of miniature animal statues in the middle of a pond.

The 'Yala Halal Street' was organized jointly by the Southern Border Provinces Administrative Center and the Yala Muslim Business Association. The event consisted of 300 booths featuring food, fashion products, and other consumer goods, as well as imported products from neighboring countries. It also included demonstrations of indigenous food cooking, ceramics and daggers making, as well as cultural performances.

Mr. Pongsak Yingchoncharoen, Mayor of the Yala City Municipality, cited the Yala Halal Street as an important business activity, because it would help create confidence in the local economy. The improving situation would also encourage people to go shopping, especially for the upcoming Ramadan period.

The mayor said the next event would be held at Pattani Halal Street and Narathiwat Halal Street.

According to him, halal products and services have become more popular, not only among Muslims but also people of all faiths and nationalities. Thailand has become more aware of the importance of halal business, which has also received a major boost. The three border provinces of Yala, Pattani, and Narathiwat, where 80 percent of local residents are Muslim, have great potential for further growth in the halal industry. Worldwide, the population of Muslims has grown to about 1.6 billion in 110 countries. It is expected that by the year 2020, the number will increase to two billion, accounting for 25 percent of the world’s population.

Although halal is undoubtedly an Islamic value, a code that allows Muslims to consume only what is permitted under Islamic diet guidelines, it has become an important economic value today. Halal products are recognized for their quality assurance, and the halal logo has become a symbol of “Good Quality Product.”

ASEAN countries are leading suppliers and importers of halal products. Thailand is one of the major exporters of halal-certified products in this region.

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I have never understood the fetish for halal food. The meat has always had a very, very strange taste, to me, especially halal chicken.

I'd sooner have blood on my plate.. giggle.gif

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I have never understood the fetish for halal food. The meat has always had a very, very strange taste, to me, especially halal chicken.

I'd sooner have blood on my plate.. giggle.gif

Personally i don't like the way muslims want to kill their food by bleeding it to death while it is still alive.

Barbaric behavior, but sadly that too can be said about countries including my own that mass produce livestock where the animals have lousy living conditions.

In many countries that export to the middleeast a lot the chickens are halal butchered, because otherwise they could not be exported to the middleeastern market.

Look on the package off your chicken and if you see any arabic writing and a marking, it's almost certain it has been halal butchered if you see these.

Here in Denmark if we want to buy normally killed chickens with no religions mumbo jumbo attatched to it from the leading supplier Danpo it's a no go.

Danpo electrocute all their chickens before they have their arteri cut open on a conveyour belt while some muslim worker says a prayer at certain times.

Do i find it offensive that a specific religion should determine how we are killing our livestock in a non muslim country. Yes

Can i taste the difference. No but then again i have no idea if my chicken are killed normally or not.

Can i be sure my food has not been halal butchered? No not unless i visit the farmer himself and watch the killing.

A lot of danes have no idea that they are eating halal butchered chickens and i guess that is not something that only happens here.

Can someone fill me in how chickens in Thailand generally is beeing raised and killed or are most of them imported?

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Vert..your thoughts on the fact that many Danes do not realise their meat has been slaughtered Halal-style is the same in many countries..including the UK where the practice is commonplace now, but folk don't realise or accept.

It's maybe the same all over Thailand already..not just in the South...

..ask C.P. how they slaughter their meat..?? Their products are consumed nationwide.

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I have never understood the fetish for halal food. The meat has always had a very, very strange taste, to me, especially halal chicken.

I'd sooner have blood on my plate.. giggle.gif

Personally i don't like the way muslims want to kill their food by bleeding it to death while it is still alive.

Barbaric behavior, but sadly that too can be said about countries including my own that mass produce livestock where the animals have lousy living conditions.

In many countries that export to the middleeast a lot the chickens are halal butchered, because otherwise they could not be exported to the middleeastern market.

Look on the package off your chicken and if you see any arabic writing and a marking, it's almost certain it has been halal butchered if you see these.

Here in Denmark if we want to buy normally killed chickens with no religions mumbo jumbo attatched to it from the leading supplier Danpo it's a no go.

Danpo electrocute all their chickens before they have their arteri cut open on a conveyour belt while some muslim worker says a prayer at certain times.

Do i find it offensive that a specific religion should determine how we are killing our livestock in a non muslim country. Yes

Can i taste the difference. No but then again i have no idea if my chicken are killed normally or not.

Can i be sure my food has not been halal butchered? No not unless i visit the farmer himself and watch the killing.

A lot of danes have no idea that they are eating halal butchered chickens and i guess that is not something that only happens here.

Can someone fill me in how chickens in Thailand generally is beeing raised and killed or are most of them imported?

Personally i don't like the way muslims want to kill their food by bleeding it to death while it is still alive.

Barbaric behavior.

Is there a right way? If you're a meat eater then surely it is irrelevant how the animal is slaughtered. I could suggest it is a lot less stressful for an animal to have it's throat cut and blead to death than to have a bolt shot through its head to kill it!

Other than that, I think you're post has a hint of racism to it. IMO

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Is there a right way? If you're a meat eater then surely it is irrelevant how the animal is slaughtered. I could suggest it is a lot less stressful for an animal to have it's throat cut and blead to death than to have a bolt shot through its head to kill it!

Other than that, I think you're post has a hint of racism to it. IMO

There isn't a right way, but there are better ways.

It's certainly not a not less stressful for an animal to have its throat cut than having a bolt through the head. With the former it can be minutes before the animal is dead. (Particularly true of larger animals such as cows.) With a bolt through the head the animal feels nothing - it's just to quick. One particular problem with many halal slaughterhouses is that the animals are processed very quickly. The cutting of the throat is often botched, causing great distress to the animal. Australia banned the export of live animals to Indonesia just because the slaughtering there was so inept.

I personally would also not wish to consume meat that has been dedicated to a pagan god (or any god for that matter).

And I find it particularly objectionable that meat that has been so brutally slaughtered and dedicated is not universally labelled as such. The consumer should be told and given the choice to boycott if he/she so wishes. In the UK it's widely available in supermarkets, and served in hospitals and schools, all without informing the consumer.

As for the accusation of "racism" for people who find halal slaughter distasteful, do remember that Islam is a religion, not a race, so it can't possibly be "racism".

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Is there a right way? If you're a meat eater then surely it is irrelevant how the animal is slaughtered. I could suggest it is a lot less stressful for an animal to have it's throat cut and blead to death than to have a bolt shot through its head to kill it!

Other than that, I think you're post has a hint of racism to it. IMO

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As for the accusation of "racism" for people who find halal slaughter distasteful, do remember that Islam is a religion, not a race, so it can't possibly be "racism".

Agree "racist" is not the correct term. Bigot would be more appropriate in that case.

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Another shining example of how this religion refuses to integrate with the rest of the world.

Halal street => Halal village => Halal school => Halal City => Halal Country => Halal World.

A scary statistic from the article,

"about 1.6 billion in 110 countries. It is expected that by the year 2020, the number will increase to two billion"

25% more adherents in just the next six years, that is 400,000,000, or more than the population of the US.

"accounting for 25 percent of the world’s population"

And the world just sits back and takes it up the bum, all in the name of human rights and multiculturalism. Two concepts that are not recognised by islam.

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Another shining example of how this religion refuses to integrate with the rest of the world.

Halal street => Halal village => Halal school => Halal City => Halal Country => Halal World.

A scary statistic from the article,

"about 1.6 billion in 110 countries. It is expected that by the year 2020, the number will increase to two billion"

25% more adherents in just the next six years, that is 400,000,000, or more than the population of the US.

"accounting for 25 percent of the world’s population"

And the world just sits back and takes it up the bum, all in the name of human rights and multiculturalism. Two concepts that are not recognised by islam.

Both Islams and Muslims are making every attempt to even take over British schools, Boards of Governors, and rid of original English teaching to suit their own religions.

The sad part is that PC (or interpreted PC by idiots who fear judgment) permits such to occur.

However, the topic is Halal food, and its popularity. Tastes like shit to me, and always will. Flavour becomes from method of kill, and as humans we breed and kill animals for our own survival, and I don't see anyway anybody can complain about that. Unless one is a Vegan wearing leather shoes, as most do. ;)

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"Agree "racist" is not the correct term. Bigot would be more appropriate in that case."

No more bigoted than saying I don't want kosher food to be given to me unawares - but I haven't had the experience of kosher food being slipped to me unawares.

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Another shining example of how this religion refuses to integrate with the rest of the world.

Halal street => Halal village => Halal school => Halal City => Halal Country => Halal World.

A scary statistic from the article,

"about 1.6 billion in 110 countries. It is expected that by the year 2020, the number will increase to two billion"

25% more adherents in just the next six years, that is 400,000,000, or more than the population of the US.

"accounting for 25 percent of the world’s population"

And the world just sits back and takes it up the bum, all in the name of human rights and multiculturalism. Two concepts that are not recognised by islam.

Both Islams and Muslims are making every attempt to even take over British schools, Boards of Governors, and rid of original English teaching to suit their own religions.

The sad part is that PC (or interpreted PC by idiots who fear judgment) permits such to occur.

However, the topic is Halal food, and its popularity. Tastes like shit to me, and always will. Flavour becomes from method of kill, and as humans we breed and kill animals for our own survival, and I don't see anyway anybody can complain about that. Unless one is a Vegan wearing leather shoes, as most do. wink.png

If you go and read the original post you will see that the original topic had nothing to do with the taste of halal food. That came along later.

The original topic was about marketing halal goods and services through the "Halal Street" project.

By definition this excludes members of any other religion from taking part, Buddhists, Christians, Atheists and are not wanted and would not be tolerated.

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http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-27313185

Pizza Express and the 'powder keg' halal debate

_73556279_bylinewhite.jpgBy BBC Trending What's popular and why

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Halal is among the trending topics in the UK at the moment - why?

A giant pizza featured on the front page of The Sun newspaper on Wednesday morning, together with the headline: "Halal secret of Pizza Express." All chicken served in the chain is halal, the paper reported - but customers are not being told, they said.

Bloggers and news outlets were quick to jump on the story, pointing out the "secret" of Pizza Express' halal meat policy was perhaps not so secret after all... It's explained in the FAQ section of the company's website, has been tweeted about by Pizza Express, and mentioned in previous news reports.

The term "halal meat" means that the animal is killed in a way that is "permissible" according to Islamic laws, for example that it must be killed with a slit to the throat and that a prayer should be recited at the time of the killing. The story got "halal" trending in the UK, with some calling for people to #BoycottPizzaExpress. For example:

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Former Apprentice candidate Katie Hopkins tweeted: "Do not use the phrase 'religious friendly foods' in association with halal. About as friendly as Ebola."

The discussion soon prompted a backlash hashtag - #halalhysteria. "These aren't secrets being exposed," tweeted writer and blogger Steve Rose, "more vehicles for bigotry". "This is power keg stuff," he said.

Others were similarly damning. "Funny how bigots have a problem with halal meat in Subway and Pizza express but no issue with a 'dirty kebab after a night on the lash!'" tweeted Omar Ali, president of the Federation of Student Islamic Societies. "Do people upset about halal chickens in Pizza Express think regular abattoirs are like luxury health spas?" added Anita Singh from The Telegraph.

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(hope the Thais don't have the same halal hysteria as back home in England :) )

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"Agree "racist" is not the correct term. Bigot would be more appropriate in that case."

No more bigoted than saying I don't want kosher food to be given to me unawares - but I haven't had the experience of kosher food being slipped to me unawares.

If it was slipped to you unawares how would you know?

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Another shining example of how this religion refuses to integrate with the rest of the world.

Halal street => Halal village => Halal school => Halal City => Halal Country => Halal World.

A scary statistic from the article,

"about 1.6 billion in 110 countries. It is expected that by the year 2020, the number will increase to two billion"

25% more adherents in just the next six years, that is 400,000,000, or more than the population of the US.

"accounting for 25 percent of the world’s population"

And the world just sits back and takes it up the bum, all in the name of human rights and multiculturalism. Two concepts that are not recognised by islam.

Both Islams and Muslims are making every attempt to even take over British schools, Boards of Governors, and rid of original English teaching to suit their own religions.

The sad part is that PC (or interpreted PC by idiots who fear judgment) permits such to occur.

However, the topic is Halal food, and its popularity. Tastes like shit to me, and always will. Flavour becomes from method of kill, and as humans we breed and kill animals for our own survival, and I don't see anyway anybody can complain about that. Unless one is a Vegan wearing leather shoes, as most do. wink.png

If you go and read the original post you will see that the original topic had nothing to do with the taste of halal food. That came along later.

The original topic was about marketing halal goods and services through the "Halal Street" project.

By definition this excludes members of any other religion from taking part, Buddhists, Christians, Atheists and are not wanted and would not be tolerated.

From the article:

"The mayor said the next event would be held at Pattani Halal Street and Narathiwat Halal Street.

According to him, halal products and services have become more popular, not only among Muslims but also people of all faiths and nationalities."

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I have never understood the fetish for halal food. The meat has always had a very, very strange taste, to me, especially halal chicken.

I'd sooner have blood on my plate.. giggle.gif

Personally i don't like the way muslims want to kill their food by bleeding it to death while it is still alive.

Barbaric behavior, but sadly that too can be said about countries including my own that mass produce livestock where the animals have lousy living conditions.

In many countries that export to the middleeast a lot the chickens are halal butchered, because otherwise they could not be exported to the middleeastern market.

Look on the package off your chicken and if you see any arabic writing and a marking, it's almost certain it has been halal butchered if you see these.

Here in Denmark if we want to buy normally killed chickens with no religions mumbo jumbo attatched to it from the leading supplier Danpo it's a no go.

Danpo electrocute all their chickens before they have their arteri cut open on a conveyour belt while some muslim worker says a prayer at certain times.

Do i find it offensive that a specific religion should determine how we are killing our livestock in a non muslim country. Yes

Can i taste the difference. No but then again i have no idea if my chicken are killed normally or not.

Can i be sure my food has not been halal butchered? No not unless i visit the farmer himself and watch the killing.

A lot of danes have no idea that they are eating halal butchered chickens and i guess that is not something that only happens here.

Can someone fill me in how chickens in Thailand generally is beeing raised and killed or are most of them imported?

Personally i don't like the way muslims want to kill their food by bleeding it to death while it is still alive.

Barbaric behavior.

Is there a right way? If you're a meat eater then surely it is irrelevant how the animal is slaughtered. I could suggest it is a lot less stressful for an animal to have it's throat cut and blead to death than to have a bolt shot through its head to kill it!

Other than that, I think you're post has a hint of racism to it. IMO

Racism? The guy doesn't like that disgraced religion so what? Should he be more political? He has the right of having an opinion.

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Can someone fill me in how chickens in Thailand generally is beeing raised and killed or are most of them imported?

Thailand is a net exporter of poultry products. To answer your question:

Thai chicken better than most British production, says RSPCA

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/news/thai-chicken-better-than-most-british-production-says-rspca-2124580.html

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I have never understood the fetish for halal food. The meat has always had a very, very strange taste, to me, especially halal chicken.

I'd sooner have blood on my plate.. giggle.gif

you can't taste the difference, most of the beef in Europe is already slaughter Halal in Europe....It is cruel but it tastes the same.

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most of the beef in Europe is already slaughter Halal in Europe....It is cruel but it tastes the same.

Do you have a source for that? In the UK 40% of poultry and 25-30% of lamb is halal-slaughtered (source meatinfo.co.uk). "Most" for beef seems to me rather on the high side.

(Considering there are reportedly 2.4 million Moslems in the UK that's a disgusting amount of halal meat going into the normal food supply chain.)

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most of the beef in Europe is already slaughter Halal in Europe....It is cruel but it tastes the same.

Do you have a source for that? In the UK 40% of poultry and 25-30% of lamb is halal-slaughtered (source meatinfo.co.uk). "Most" for beef seems to me rather on the high side.

(Considering there are reportedly 2.4 million Moslems in the UK that's a disgusting amount of halal meat going into the normal food supply chain.)

I can't find the link anymore. But it was a big topic in France with Brigitte Bardot..... The point was that it is far more efficient for a slaughterhouse to kill all the beef the halal way than making a difference and maybe mix it.

It was said that the major facilities do Halal and only the smaller do it the painless way.

But I can't find a supporting link. And it is from how I remember the article, so I may remember it worse than it is.

It was a topic in Austria as well, with some groups wanted to ban it, or wanted that the animals are unconscious. Which angered Muslim and Jewish groups as the animal must be conscious....And everyone who want to protect the animals is a racist and nazi and complains like this is what leads to the Holocaust again.......blablabla

I don't buy any meat that is Halal, but of course I don't care for non meat things.

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UK Food Standards Agency figures from 2011 suggest 84% of cattle, 81% of sheep and 88% of chickens slaughtered for halal meat were stunned before they died.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-27324224

Jewish and Muslim leaders have called for "comprehensive labelling" of meat.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/letters/10814564/All-meat-should-be-labelled-with-details-of-its-slaughter.html

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I have never understood the fetish for halal food. The meat has always had a very, very strange taste, to me, especially halal chicken.

I'd sooner have blood on my plate.. alt=giggle.gif>

Personally i don't like the way muslims want to kill their food by bleeding it to death while it is still alive.

Barbaric behavior, but sadly that too can be said about countries including my own that mass produce livestock where the animals have lousy living conditions.

In many countries that export to the middleeast a lot the chickens are halal butchered, because otherwise they could not be exported to the middleeastern market.

Look on the package off your chicken and if you see any arabic writing and a marking, it's almost certain it has been halal butchered if you see these.

Here in Denmark if we want to buy normally killed chickens with no religions mumbo jumbo attatched to it from the leading supplier Danpo it's a no go.

Danpo electrocute all their chickens before they have their arteri cut open on a conveyour belt while some muslim worker says a prayer at certain times.

Do i find it offensive that a specific religion should determine how we are killing our livestock in a non muslim country. Yes

Can i taste the difference. No but then again i have no idea if my chicken are killed normally or not.

Can i be sure my food has not been halal butchered? No not unless i visit the farmer himself and watch the killing.

A lot of danes have no idea that they are eating halal butchered chickens and i guess that is not something that only happens here.

Can someone fill me in how chickens in Thailand generally is beeing raised and killed or are most of them imported?

No religion will FORCE you on how to kill your livestock.

Meanwhile you don't have the right to describe others actions as barbaric, especially you being a Danish/European when almost all the ills of the world are due to what the Europeans did to humanity since the Romans.

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I have never understood the fetish for halal food. The meat has always had a very, very strange taste, to me, especially halal chicken.

I'd sooner have blood on my plate.. alt=giggle.gif>

Personally i don't like the way muslims want to kill their food by bleeding it to death while it is still alive.

Barbaric behavior, but sadly that too can be said about countries including my own that mass produce livestock where the animals have lousy living conditions.

In many countries that export to the middleeast a lot the chickens are halal butchered, because otherwise they could not be exported to the middleeastern market.

Look on the package off your chicken and if you see any arabic writing and a marking, it's almost certain it has been halal butchered if you see these.

Here in Denmark if we want to buy normally killed chickens with no religions mumbo jumbo attatched to it from the leading supplier Danpo it's a no go.

Danpo electrocute all their chickens before they have their arteri cut open on a conveyour belt while some muslim worker says a prayer at certain times.

Do i find it offensive that a specific religion should determine how we are killing our livestock in a non muslim country. Yes

Can i taste the difference. No but then again i have no idea if my chicken are killed normally or not.

Can i be sure my food has not been halal butchered? No not unless i visit the farmer himself and watch the killing.

A lot of danes have no idea that they are eating halal butchered chickens and i guess that is not something that only happens here.

Can someone fill me in how chickens in Thailand generally is beeing raised and killed or are most of them imported?

No religion will FORCE you on how to kill your livestock.

Meanwhile you don't have the right to describe others actions as barbaric, especially you being a Danish/European when almost all the ills of the world are due to what the Europeans did to humanity since the Romans.

to take a life cattle, not sedated and cut its throat and watch it slowly dieing at pain is barbaric.

(but other aspects of the meat production are also barbaric)

And you can't blame Virt for all the ill things till the Roman empire.....

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http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/cyrus-todiwala-celebrity-chefs-excel-arena-uk-509690

Halal Food Festival Showcases Fresh Face of British Cuisine
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Halal Food Festival 2013 (Reuters)

Some people are so committed to halal food that they will fly all the way from Australia to promote it.

That is what chef Amina Elshafei, a contestant from the fourth series of Australia's Masterchef, has done.

Her journey to London to take part in the first ever Halal Food Festival, which is on until Sunday (29 September), is the best evidence of how global halal food has become.

Elshafei radiates passion about the subject in a massive hall in the ExCel Arena.

"When we talk about halal in a commercial or economic sense, it is a huge industry and a dynamic industry," she says. "It is a reflection of the immense Muslim population globally."

In London alone, 15% of the meat on sale is halal and there is a growing Muslim population of one million which is becoming wealthier as time goes by. Elshafei is convinced that the appeal of halal food will expand.

"The concept of halal food will continue to grow. One of the venders here, we were having a chat and he used to cook in France. And he was saying that there this is one Algerian chef in France who now has halal foie gras so it is definitely going to keep growing."

Good for Londoners?

Numerous stalls are spread out in the exhibition hall with a live cooking class and world class chefs showing off their best cuisine.

One of them is Abdul Yaseen, the head chef at Cinnamon Kitchen, a top Indian restaurant near Liverpool Street.

He sees the Halal Food Festival as part of broader trend in a healthier eating culture that has established itself over the last few years.

"If you look back a couple of years, organic food took a boom and people started to eat more organic and freshly produced food and there was a lot of education involved in it. The Halal Food Festival obviously can make people aware as to why halal is so hygienic."

Yaseen thinks that Londoners will welcome halal food with healthy appetites and open minds.

"London is a city that adopts and welcomes every single cuisine to come and showcase its best meals."

Halal and British Eating Culture

Probably no one knows as much about halal food or its increasing importance to the British economy as Cyrus Todiwala, a legend in the restaurant industry who has appeared on BBC 1's Saturday Kitchen Programme.

He believes that the potential for halal food consumption is huge.

"There are nearly 10,000 Indian restaurants in this country. And there are several thousand others - Thai, Chinese, Moroccan, Malaysian, Vietnamese," he says. "You name it, it is all there.

"The Asian restaurant sector is worth £4.8bn today. That £4.8bn is not coming exclusively from halal-eating people, that is coming from the entire diaspora that makes our Britain today."

Todiwala came to Britain 20 years ago when the Asian restaurant sector accounted for half the size it is today.

It grew alongside the growing affluence of the UK's Muslim middle class, a diverse population and a superior quality of halal products pushed up by fiercer competition, which has a knock-on effect for the wider UK economy in the non-restaurant sectors such as supermarkets and farmers.

Noman Khawaja, events director of the festival, reinforces the idea of the benefits of halal food to British business.

"Restaurants are becoming more aware of halal," he claims. "You know all this organic trending. Halal is a big part of the organic process and the feed of the animal to the life it has and the way it is slaughtered."

Halal and the Future

Boris Johnson has officially endorsed the Halal Food Festival in a letter that references the festival in relation to the first World Islamic Forum in Europe in October.

Rosie Boycott, who is Johnson's food adviser and chairman of the London Food Board, says the food industry in London employs 300,000 people and is worth £70bn to the local economy.

"Assuming we have [all] three meals a day, that is 25 million meals eaten every day in this city and that is a staggering amount," she says.

"The richness and diversity that halal will bring is something that we will really welcome."



(I really do think halal food is harmless, and it IS British cuisine. Why are so many of us against it ? Not sure though if the Thais would love halal food).

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I am led to believe that nowhere in the Quran does it demand that all meat be killed Halal. It is a terrible way of killing the animals which die in terrible agony and fear. For these reasons i definatey avoid anything Halal.

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I have never understood the fetish for halal food. The meat has always had a very, very strange taste, to me, especially halal chicken.

I'd sooner have blood on my plate.. giggle.gif

Personally i don't like the way muslims want to kill their food by bleeding it to death while it is still alive.

Barbaric behavior, but sadly that too can be said about countries including my own that mass produce livestock where the animals have lousy living conditions.

In many countries that export to the middleeast a lot the chickens are halal butchered, because otherwise they could not be exported to the middleeastern market.

Look on the package off your chicken and if you see any arabic writing and a marking, it's almost certain it has been halal butchered if you see these.

Here in Denmark if we want to buy normally killed chickens with no religions mumbo jumbo attatched to it from the leading supplier Danpo it's a no go.

Danpo electrocute all their chickens before they have their arteri cut open on a conveyour belt while some muslim worker says a prayer at certain times.

Do i find it offensive that a specific religion should determine how we are killing our livestock in a non muslim country. Yes

Can i taste the difference. No but then again i have no idea if my chicken are killed normally or not.

Can i be sure my food has not been halal butchered? No not unless i visit the farmer himself and watch the killing.

A lot of danes have no idea that they are eating halal butchered chickens and i guess that is not something that only happens here.

Can someone fill me in how chickens in Thailand generally is beeing raised and killed or are most of them imported?

Personally i don't like the way muslims want to kill their food by bleeding it to death while it is still alive.

Barbaric behavior.

Is there a right way? If you're a meat eater then surely it is irrelevant how the animal is slaughtered. I could suggest it is a lot less stressful for an animal to have it's throat cut and blead to death than to have a bolt shot through its head to kill it!

Other than that, I think you're post has a hint of racism to it. IMO

You silly person! Have you ever watched a beast being killed Halal. With their throats cut, they thrash around in agony and terror for several minutes before finally dying, however some are passed through the procedure of skinning and gutting even before death. Any beast who is killed with the bolt to the head dies instantly. You need to go have a look and not be so stupid with such an obvious facts.

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I have never understood the fetish for halal food. The meat has always had a very, very strange taste, to me, especially halal chicken.

I'd sooner have blood on my plate.. giggle.gif

Personally i don't like the way muslims want to kill their food by bleeding it to death while it is still alive.

Barbaric behavior, but sadly that too can be said about countries including my own that mass produce livestock where the animals have lousy living conditions.

In many countries that export to the middleeast a lot the chickens are halal butchered, because otherwise they could not be exported to the middleeastern market.

Look on the package off your chicken and if you see any arabic writing and a marking, it's almost certain it has been halal butchered if you see these.

Here in Denmark if we want to buy normally killed chickens with no religions mumbo jumbo attatched to it from the leading supplier Danpo it's a no go.

Danpo electrocute all their chickens before they have their arteri cut open on a conveyour belt while some muslim worker says a prayer at certain times.

Do i find it offensive that a specific religion should determine how we are killing our livestock in a non muslim country. Yes

Can i taste the difference. No but then again i have no idea if my chicken are killed normally or not.

Can i be sure my food has not been halal butchered? No not unless i visit the farmer himself and watch the killing.

A lot of danes have no idea that they are eating halal butchered chickens and i guess that is not something that only happens here.

Can someone fill me in how chickens in Thailand generally is beeing raised and killed or are most of them imported?

Personally i don't like the way muslims want to kill their food by bleeding it to death while it is still alive.

Barbaric behavior.

Is there a right way? If you're a meat eater then surely it is irrelevant how the animal is slaughtered. I could suggest it is a lot less stressful for an animal to have it's throat cut and blead to death than to have a bolt shot through its head to kill it!

Other than that, I think you're post has a hint of racism to it. IMO

You silly person! Have you ever watched a beast being killed Halal. With their throats cut, they thrash around in agony and terror for several minutes before finally dying, however some are passed through the procedure of skinning and gutting even before death. Any beast who is killed with the bolt to the head dies instantly. You need to go have a look and not be so stupid with such an obvious facts.

Thank you. silly I am not! If the slautering is done correctly the animal is dead in 2 seconds. How sure are you that a bolt to the head is instant?

http://halalcertification.ie/halal/islamic-method-of-slaughtering/

http://www.wikihow.com/Properly-Slaughter-a-Cow-Under-the-Kosher-Method-Shechitah

while there are differences in method between both faiths the dietry laws are the same.

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