NCPO dusts off Thai police station construction project

[Jim walker]

More billions of Baht being made available come-on collect your share Thais hold your hands out plenty money here just be sure you come to work at your new police station with deep pockets to hold all that lovely money. and so many people wrongly thought that the last government had stolen and emptied the coffers.

[Robby nz]

If Suthep was involved in the original plans, there definitely needs to be an investigation.

If what I understand is correct Suthep as minister of police signed off on the final contract.

There was a committee of senior police who were tasked with investigating the needs, plans, costs and how things could best be achieved.

That committee, who were supposed to be the experts, was supposed to do a thorough job of compiling a final report that was then sent to the police ministry for approval.

It was this report that Suthep as minister accepted and signed off on.

If there is going to be any investigation (and their should be) then the police committee should be at the center of that enquiry for they were the ones who made all the recommendations including a single contractor.

There was a hoo ha during the BKK mayor elections about the PT candidate being on that committee, which he denied until proof was brought forward, then he said he left before any final decision was made.

[oldsailor35]

I would of thought pushing for a resolution of what happened first time round might be the priority before awarding another 1.5 billion baht.

It has been under investigation for 3-4 years or so, and with only one contractor involved i would of thought would be relatively easy to get a good idea of what had happened. Perhaps the junta should have a word with PCC the contractor to see if they are willing to talk.

According to the other paper,a certain Suthep was fairly involved in this, so perhaps the junta who no doubt are due a talk with him, could perhaps start making him sing.

If Suthep was involved., this is the last we will hear of it.

[oldsailor35]

There is something very "fishy" about this whole Police Stn business. No matter who was involved, there must be a full in depth investigation. All money must be recovered, with interest. Those finally found to be involved should go to jail. Just because Suthep is involved due to his then government position, this must not influence the investigation, if he is innocent, then so be it. But if he is guilty, then his involvement in anything smelling of corruption has to be investigated

[oldsailor35]

let the police pay for their own building, they collect tax from motorists and businesses

or they can impound the buildings that are home to so many illegal casino's

Last i heard, the chief of Phuket police was going to pay for his new station out of his own hard earned money.

[oldsailor35]

I take it the previous contractor will be invited to finish the job and pocket the extra cash? Lets keep up the transparency hey.Maybe Suthep could help with the investigation?

My wife from Surat Thani tells me that Khun Suthep is a very good man and that he is going to clean up all corruption in Thailand , so i think he will be too busy to help elsewhere.

[rubl]

I would of thought pushing for a resolution of what happened first time round might be the priority before awarding another 1.5 billion baht.

It has been under investigation for 3-4 years or so, and with only one contractor involved i would of thought would be relatively easy to get a good idea of what had happened. Perhaps the junta should have a word with PCC the contractor to see if they are willing to talk.

According to the other paper,a certain Suthep was fairly involved in this, so perhaps the junta who no doubt are due a talk with him, could perhaps start making him sing.

The BangkokPost mentions that the contract to PCC was awarded by ex-Dept. PM Suthep in 2010 as he oversaw the police then. It was implemented further under the Yingluck Administration.

Not much there really and we know the 'control' the Abhisit government had over the police in 2010.

Anyway before speculating more maybe re-read some of the info posted last year

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/656480-thailand-live-saturday-27-jul-2013/#entry6653185

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/674651-fraud-charges-dropped-against-firm-hired-to-build-thai-police-stations/

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/675146-dsi-presses-for-prosecution-of-firm-in-thai-police-station-fiasco/

Yes it's curious that Tharit was chasing this down and then backed off, when all along it should have been the NACC doing the chasing. Obviously the hounding of Yingluck was deemed more important than this scandal by the NACC or was it because she was not associated with the right (eous) people?

Apparently the DSI had sent the report on the scandal to the NACC for investigation on Mar 5th 2013

http://soclaimon.wordpress.com/2013/03/05/dsi-report-on-abhisit-suthep-to-nacc/

Strangely, nothing more has been heard from the NACC on the evidence they were provided with.

The situation seems a bit unclear with police generals involved

2013-02-11 http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/618405-pongsapat-denies-link-to-building-scandal/

2013-02-12 http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/618629-thai-democrats-tie-pongsapat-to-police-station-scandal/

and of course for the fun of it, 2013-02-12:

"After the 2007 general election, two successive governments under Samak Sundaravej and Somchai Wongsawat hatched the idea to rebuild some 396 police stations nationwide.

The plan was essentially a budgetary lollipop for the police in exchange for their loyalty to rein in street protests."

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Both-sides-to-blame-in-police-building-fiasco-30199852.html

PS One of the pointers to a topic I provided has what maybe the first posts you made, in October 2013 (as fab4 that is). Somewhat nostalgic.

Edited June 25, 2014 by rubl

[fab4]

The situation seems a bit unclear with police generals involved

2013-02-11 http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/618405-pongsapat-denies-link-to-building-scandal/

2013-02-12 http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/618629-thai-democrats-tie-pongsapat-to-police-station-scandal/

and of course for the fun of it, 2013-02-12:

"After the 2007 general election, two successive governments under Samak Sundaravej and Somchai Wongsawat hatched the idea to rebuild some 396 police stations nationwide.

The plan was essentially a budgetary lollipop for the police in exchange for their loyalty to rein in street protests."

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Both-sides-to-blame-in-police-building-fiasco-30199852.html

PS One of the pointers to a topic I provided has what maybe the first posts you made, in October 2013 (as fab4 that is). Somewhat nostalgic.

If you have something to say rubl, say it. Or get off the pot.

[rubl]

The situation seems a bit unclear with police generals involved

2013-02-11 http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/618405-pongsapat-denies-link-to-building-scandal/

2013-02-12 http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/618629-thai-democrats-tie-pongsapat-to-police-station-scandal/

and of course for the fun of it, 2013-02-12:

"After the 2007 general election, two successive governments under Samak Sundaravej and Somchai Wongsawat hatched the idea to rebuild some 396 police stations nationwide.

The plan was essentially a budgetary lollipop for the police in exchange for their loyalty to rein in street protests."

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Both-sides-to-blame-in-police-building-fiasco-30199852.html

PS One of the pointers to a topic I provided has what maybe the first posts you made, in October 2013 (as fab4 that is). Somewhat nostalgic.

If you have something to say rubl, say it. Or get off the pot.

To repeat "The situation seems a bit unclear with police generals involved"

May be it would be more clear if I explained the situation by inserting "with so many police generals involved" ?

[Benmart]

what about police REFORM first ...not more ivory collection towers

Please read #11.

I've worked in some antiquated stations back home.

It's difficult to do any sort of proper police work in a facility that is; not secure, is lacking space, is unsafe, that has poor plumbing/toilet facilities, that has poor lighting and an outdated electrical system, that has a leaking roof, that has inadequate facilities for processing and safeguarding evidence, that has inadequate parking for impounded vehicles and employees and the list goes on.

It's quite easy to go after the "Ivory Tower", when the dedicated line officers are often working in a "dilapidated shack". I would suggest a visit to various stations for an enlightened idea of what is out there.

The performance and training issue is another story, but related to the work environment. It's difficult to remain positive and professional when the lights go out continuously due to power overloads and the water is dripping on one's paperwork.

Live and Let Live

[hawker9000]

what about police REFORM first ...not more ivory collection towers

Please read #11.

I've worked in some antiquated stations back home.

It's difficult to do any sort of proper police work in a facility that is; not secure, is lacking space, is unsafe, that has poor plumbing/toilet facilities, that has poor lighting and an outdated electrical system, that has a leaking roof, that has inadequate facilities for processing and safeguarding evidence, that has inadequate parking for impounded vehicles and employees and the list goes on.

It's quite easy to go after the "Ivory Tower", when the dedicated line officers are often working in a "dilapidated shack". I would suggest a visit to various stations for an enlightened idea of what is out there.

The performance and training issue is another story, but related to the work environment. It's difficult to remain positive and professional when the lights go out continuously due to power overloads and the water is dripping on one's paperwork.

Live and Let Live

Even if true, not sure how this excuses corruption, extortion, and criminal exploitation of tourists (the "cigarette butt" scam, the "ATM card" scam, arbitrary "document checks" followed by search & seizure around Ekamai, etc....)