Sandman77 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Yesterday I had the idea , to import seeds from plants and European flowers, to make a big flower garden!! But Iam not exactly sure what kind of flowers grow here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooo Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Moved to farming etc....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topt Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 OP this may be better in the Plants section? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David48 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 OP this may be better in the Plants section? The Gardening Forum ... We are Farmers ... not Gardeners. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costas2008 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 OP this may be better in the Plants section? The Gardening Forum ... We are Farmers ... not Gardeners. Who's a happy man now, David? Did you get paid for your rice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costas2008 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Sandman, why do you want to import seeds or plants from Austria? First, I think it's illegal......although, not very sure about that and what plants it concerns. Second, there are thousands of seeds and plants in Thailand, that can make your garden look very, very pretty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seajae Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 have to be tropicals, doesnt matter whether flowers, fruit, vegetables or just ornamentals, they need to be able to handle the thai climate so cold climate ones will struggle here. Just look at any of the thai nurseries, they will sell everything that will grow here, I know I brought seeds from Australia but they will not grow the same as they did back there, they need to be suitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman77 Posted June 28, 2014 Author Share Posted June 28, 2014 Just want try allready ordered! You only think it's illegal? But not realy? The eu want make da import ban , to boost there gen manipulated money profit , but not yet done ! This could mean the plants import also not allowed? I allready ordered my red bananna try! Iam a friend of the try and error prinzip! If I not try everything out I want do . I canot stop think about it, no matter what it is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooo Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Second time lucky, moved to plants forum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suradit69 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Just want try allready ordered! You only think it's illegal? But not realy? The eu want make da import ban , to boost there gen manipulated money profit , but not yet done ! This could mean the plants import also not allowed? I allready ordered my red bananna try! Iam a friend of the try and error prinzip! If I not try everything out I want do . I canot stop think about it, no matter what it is! Thailand customsRestricted • Live animals – health certificate required along with complete and valid inoculations. Contact nearest embassy to obtain permission. • Plants, foodstuff and seeds– health certificate require. Check with the nearest embassy. • Weaponry and ammunition – permission obtainable from Ministry of Interior. Check with the nearest embassy. • Medication • Foreign currency – any amounts need to be declared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrjlh Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 I brought some flower seeds over that would grow in Florida's tropical climate. Was told by the "experts" they would grow.....NOT...they all died. Turns out the soil is not correct. Has to have the right composition in the soil too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post xen Posted June 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2014 If you are willing to take the responsibility for introducing a pest species that could do vast amounts of environmental and economic damage to Thailand then go ahead. The consequences of introducing exotic plants can be massive for farmers, for example. If you cannot see the beauty that exists already in the South East Asian world then i would suggest you visit some gardens like Nong Nooch (Pattaya) or Queen Sirikit Gardens or Dok Mai Gardens (Chiang Mai ) and have a look at what is already here. Maybe then your eyes will open to see the beauty you already live amongst . 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotpoom Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Every time I go to Europe I bring back packets of seeds from a few different countries and sow them in my garden......I still can't tell which is which.....which are the Thai flowers and which are the Euro ones.....doesn't really bother me...............I just enjoy the different colors and couldn't care less where they originated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hkt83100 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Basil for your mozzarella, easy to grow. Zucchini, no problem. I would like to try peaches and apricots, these I am missing here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiguzzi Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Radishes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvs Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 You would be surprised to see how many foreign plants and trees are already out here. European fig? No problem. European strawberries,already here. Just too many to mention, of course some plants will not grow because it is just too hot or the sun is too strong. Many plants can take the heat but need shade. Even plants from Thailand will not grow every where here. When we get a new plant we place it in a large pot and just experiment where it will grow,sun or shade or halve shade. We even seem some weeping willow doing really nice here.( have to get a twig) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyf Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Just want try allready ordered! You only think it's illegal? But not realy? The eu want make da import ban , to boost there gen manipulated money profit , but not yet done ! This could mean the plants import also not allowed? I allready ordered my red bananna try! Iam a friend of the try and error prinzip! If I not try everything out I want do . I canot stop think about it, no matter what it is! I have brought several packets of seeds from Europe but not really been successful.The temperature is obviously a big problem and many plants just grow too quick and end up dying. Another problem is pollination, has to happen below about 35 degrees or the pollen becomes sticky. No harm in trying, just try and keep cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cooked Posted June 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2014 You will have to go by trial and error. Many things germinate ok then just stop growing. More plants than you think need certain day length conditions to flower, some seeds won't germinate well at temperatures over 24°C or so. Then again, I tried Black eyed Susan two years ago and it proved to be a real pest, I am still weeding it out. I generally steal seeds when I see stuff by the wayside, I have plenty of Mirabilis and Zinnias in different colours here, also a Canna collection. I will be buying with Geranium seeds ( seen some very nice Geraniums in Thailand but couldn't buy plants or seeds (F1s I suppose) anywhere). Cleome spinosa should be OK as Cleome gynandra grows ok but I suspect this would become a weed also. Apparently you can find sunflowers with large heads here, I haven't seen any. My ex-wife sent me some and they turned out to be F1s, very nice, but no seeds a t all, start again. Anyway, there is usually a good reason why you can't find certain seeds here, but keep on trying. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterb17 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 There are very good reasons that many countries do restrict the import of foreign species, for example Japanese Knotweed in the UK- this is costing millions to control. Saying that, I have a suspicion that not many flowers from Europe will flourish here, simply because of the lack of any real seasons . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akentryan Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 We have brought in all kinds of packaged vegetable seeds from the USA. None of them grow including a dozen varieties of tomato plants. I brought in Valencia, Honey Bell and Naval orange plants in my golf bag, The naval died and the other two produce at most one orange a season. A Thai agriculture student came out and took grafts to put on Thai orange trees to see what will happen. He also said they should not be planted in the ground but kept in pots. We have a couple of local lime trees in the ground that produce nothing. We have one lime tree in a pot and it has about 50 limes. We have a Malaysian lemon tree in a pot that produces beautiful lemons. We have a couple of patio orange trees in pots that keep us in marmalade. Probably miss good old US tomatoes the most. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatyaier Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Many years ago some European brought some pretty yellow flowers to Canada. Now millions of dollars are spent every year to try to control them. They are called dandelions.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob strutt Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 tried to start macadania nut trees, very heathly on arrival but the bugs , white ants, cleaned up up, wrong place in thailand i guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianP Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Try to grow something pretty that wildlife uses, then you will have good company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrjlh Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Pests come in on live plants, not seeds. That's where the danger lies. Seeds do carry fungus sometimes but if the seeds don't germinate the fungus dies. Fungus can't live if the host dies. One needs the other but each other. Also seeds are treated chemically to give better results so the chances of bring in foreign species are near zero. Since I have a brown thumb anyway, no chance anything I plant will survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techboy Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Sounds like you need to do your own homework. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AjarnMartin Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 We have brought in all kinds of packaged vegetable seeds from the USA. None of them grow including a dozen varieties of tomato plants. I brought in Valencia, Honey Bell and Naval orange plants in my golf bag, The naval died and the other two produce at most one orange a season. A Thai agriculture student came out and took grafts to put on Thai orange trees to see what will happen. He also said they should not be planted in the ground but kept in pots. We have a couple of local lime trees in the ground that produce nothing. We have one lime tree in a pot and it has about 50 limes. We have a Malaysian lemon tree in a pot that produces beautiful lemons. We have a couple of patio orange trees in pots that keep us in marmalade. Probably miss good old US tomatoes the most. Hi Akentryan. Sounds good! What did you put in the pots to have such good growth? Did you buy bags of special soil? If so, which? Thanks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laislica Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Pests come in on live plants, not seeds. That's where the danger lies. Seeds do carry fungus sometimes but if the seeds don't germinate the fungus dies. Fungus can't live if the host dies. One needs the other but each other. Also seeds are treated chemically to give better results so the chances of bring in foreign species are near zero. Since I have a brown thumb anyway, no chance anything I plant will survive. As was mentioned above, the problem would be if the plant that is beautiful in other countries becomes a weed here. Importing live, growing plants with soil is a no no every where. As you say, all manner of pests and deseases could be imported and be devastating to the local environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mls Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 After four years of trying to grow UK variety tomatoes with total lack of success, I finally succeeded this/last year. Started them off as soon as the cool season started and the rains finished. Planted in bags, so they could be moved around to avoid too much sun or rain. Not perfect, I must say, but am trying to grow organically so not as easy and am not very green fingered! I did have a reasonable crop but also some problems splitting. Also had a Thai variety which was OK too but marble sized fruit. Eventually had to move the plants under cover and they started to develop white mould and mottling of the leaves. Just too hot and humid now, so will start again next cool season! Have had pretty good success with lettuce leaves, the cut and come again type. Tried planting Little Gems. Never got one with a heart, the heat made them all bolt, but just picked off the leaves as they grew. So nice to be able to eat the fruits of one's labours! Lots of other things to try, but best to plant in pots, so can move around out of the downpours or the sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidstipek Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 (edited) We have brought in all kinds of packaged vegetable seeds from the USA. None of them grow including a dozen varieties of tomato plants. I brought in Valencia, Honey Bell and Naval orange plants in my golf bag, The naval died and the other two produce at most one orange a season. A Thai agriculture student came out and took grafts to put on Thai orange trees to see what will happen. He also said they should not be planted in the ground but kept in pots. We have a couple of local lime trees in the ground that produce nothing. We have one lime tree in a pot and it has about 50 limes. We have a Malaysian lemon tree in a pot that produces beautiful lemons. We have a couple of patio orange trees in pots that keep us in marmalade. Probably miss good old US tomatoes the most. Back in Seattle Dad tried the hanging Tomatoes (upside down) and in patio partly shaded. He has all kinds. He gave me some Beefsteak seeds and I duplicated process here. Planted seeds indoors and waited till they got about 4-6" high and transplanted. I have beautiful 4-6" Red Beefsteak Tomatoes! about 7-9 per plant. One actually produced as I kept using pig manure 3 t 4 times a year... kept producing for almost 2 seasons (years). Also brought some Large Water Melon seeds that about half grew and produced 24 - 30" length and 38-42" diameter had about 20 melons. Saved the seeds after I reminded everyone to do... Same with giant Pumpkins. Biggest I had was almost 300 Lbs! There was a Joke arund here, if someone wanted a big " <deleted>(4 letter word... starts with F and ends with K..-Thai for Pumpkin..)" go to my house. Wife was really Greatly amused! Edited June 29, 2014 by davidstipek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pii Kate Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 I think your question should read, what plants are we allowed to import here? I'm sure many will grow here but what will their effect be on local plants and wildlife. Info should be found on imports page in immigration info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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