webfact Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 PRISONPrison troublemakers face 'supermax' unitThanapat KitjakosolThe Nation,RatchaburiA bird eyeBANGKOK: -- Trouble-making inmates from across Thailand are being transferred to the country's only jail with a "super-maximum" security facility.The Corrections Department also plans to set up three more "supermax" zones like the one at Khao Bin Prison in Ratchaburi in a bid to accommodate all misbehaving inmates and ensure that they lose their bad connections and, thus, their negative influence.The reasons inmates get sent to the prison include drug trafficking, using cell phones or seriously intimidating fellow inmates."I think if we have 'supermax' facilities to accommodate about 1,000 trouble-making inmates, we should be able to end many problems," Khao Bin Prison chief Yossapon Sutham said in an exclusive interview with The Nation.The supermax zone at Khao Bin Prison can hold 500 inmates.Recent news reports revealed that some prisoners continue to arrange drug deals from behind bars after obtaining cell phones through bribery and influence."To get a cell phone, some inmates have agreed to pay up to Bt3 million. To get a SIM card, some inmates have agreed to offer Bt800,000," Yossapon said.He disclosed that some inmates outside Khao Bin Prison's supermax zone once used cell phones."But I have already launched a serious crackdown and pursued action against suspicious officials," he said.Yossapon remains sure that no one has snuck a cell-phone into the supermax zone."Before any person is allowed to walk into the zone, he or she must undergo body scanning. There's no exemption. This rule applies to officials and the warden chief too," he said.He added that SIM card-detecting devices and security cameras were also in place."Officials monitor inmates round the clock with the help of 360 security cameras too," he said.When the 'supermax' facility opened last year, only troublemakers from the Khao Bin Prison were sent there. However, authorities now agree that it will be easier to control and reform inmates if trouble-makers are separated.Kan, 33, said he was initially locked up in the Ubon Ratchathani Prison on a drug-related conviction.He said he had managed to get into an influential gang there and got a cell-phone."Because of that I was sent to solitary detention at the supermax zone," he said.Unlike general prisons, the supermax does not allow inmates to walk around and they can't use money. Neither can they accept food or items brought by families or friends.There is no coffee and smoking is banned. Only direct relatives can "visit" via a video-conference system that officials can listen to.Inmates are allowed only one hour of exercise a week."We have already had 287 inmates inside the supermax zone," Yossapon said. Uan, who was jailed for attempted murder, said officials threw him in the supermax because he had often had brawls at Chon Buri Prison."I am under huge stress because I can't contact anyone. I am allowed to leave my cell only when my lawyer arrives," he said.Kan said the situation at the supermax facility was so stressful that he would never want to come back."I even think I could die from stress here," he said.'Supermax' unit head Chanwit Karanan said inmates often shouted to ease their stress and some even banged their heads against the wall.Parakorn Daengsomboon, who monitors inmates via CCTV, said he could zoom in closely on inmates."So if anything goes wrong, officials can rush in," he said.Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Prison-troublemakers-face-supermax-unit-30237395.html-- The Nation 2014-06-30 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chooka Posted June 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2014 Sounds like a decent prison. Punish offenders. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siampolee Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Now perhaps we might see the punishment fitting the crime and aligned to the offenders behavior whilst in prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bluespunk Posted June 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2014 (edited) "'Supermax' unit head Chanwit Karanan said inmates often shouted to ease their stress and some even banged their heads against the wall." Sounds like they are just locked in their cells with no human contact for all but 1 hour a week. Won't that bring about psychological problems or more likely exacerbate existing conditions. I believe prison should be a punishment, however it should also attempt rehabilitation. This place appears to be failing to do the latter. Edited June 29, 2014 by Bluespunk 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NongKhaiKid Posted June 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2014 Who will be sent there, politicians, people with hyphenated names, people who get time for stealing mushrooms OR the real hardcore ? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgphuket Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 I'd like to know where inmates get 3 mil baht to buy a cell phone. For 95% of the population thats 30 years pay. The 5% of the population with that kind of money to spend never see the inside of a prison. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Payboy Posted June 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2014 "To get a cell phone, some inmates have agreed to pay up to Bt3 million. To get a SIM card, some inmates have agreed to offer Bt800,000," Yossapon said. Would be cheaper to send the bribe taking officials to a smaller less expensive prison. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cooked Posted June 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2014 So Thailand hasn't discovered cell phone jammers yet? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post siampolee Posted June 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2014 Bluespunk post # 4 "'Supermax' unit head Chanwit Karanan said inmates often shouted to ease their stress and some even banged their heads against the wall." Sounds like they are just locked in their cells with no human contact for all but 1 hour a week. Won't that bring about psychological problems or more likely exacerbate existing conditions. I believe prison should be a punishment, however it should also attempt rehabilitation. This place appears to be failing to do the latter. Sadly there are those people who are nothing more than a danger to society unable or unwilling to conform to the norms of decent social behavior patterns and conduct albeit it bit wild at times and as such we in society at large need to be and indeed society must be protected from those individuals. Dangerous animals are controlled in many societies and remember we Homeo Sapiens are supposed to be the highest form of life on the planet. Hence we protect ourselves from assorted threats environmental and society wise. Agreed prison is not the best solution to many of the inmates problems, however society has its rules, we make or have made those rules thus we need to ensure such rules are observed and society can function at a safe level. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Bluespunk post # 4 "'Supermax' unit head Chanwit Karanan said inmates often shouted to ease their stress and some even banged their heads against the wall." Sounds like they are just locked in their cells with no human contact for all but 1 hour a week. Won't that bring about psychological problems or more likely exacerbate existing conditions. I believe prison should be a punishment, however it should also attempt rehabilitation. This place appears to be failing to do the latter. Sadly there are those people who are nothing more than a danger to society unable or unwilling to conform to the norms of decent social behavior patterns and conduct albeit it bit wild at times and as such we in society at large need to be and indeed society must be protected from those individuals. Dangerous animals are controlled in many societies and remember we Homeo Sapiens are supposed to be the highest form of life on the planet. Hence we protect ourselves from assorted threats environmental and society wise. Agreed prison is not the best solution to many of the inmates problems, however society has its rules, we make or have made those rules thus we need to ensure such rules are observed and society can function at a safe level. Yes, I agree. However not all the guys locked up in this place appear to life term prisoners and will eventually be released. Society would be best served if they were offered some sort of treatment to solve any psychological issues they have. In this gaol it would appear these problems are being created or, as I said, more likely made worse. These already predatory people will be a greater danger than ever if released back into society. Surely it would be worth the try to help them, even at a minimal level. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMNightRider Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 I'd like to know where inmates get 3 mil baht to buy a cell phone. For 95% of the population thats 30 years pay. The 5% of the population with that kind of money to spend never see the inside of a prison. 3 million baht really isn't much money for a Thai who has been selling drugs. If the inmate on the inside didn't have the presence of mind to conceal a bankroll inside their body cavity before entering prison, a fellow gang member or family member outside prison will take care of the money transaction for them. Generally an inmate who will pay that much for a cell phone inside prison, isn't calling home to mom. They are doing business inside prison, with the help of their criminal friends on the outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Seastallion Posted June 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2014 "I even think I could die from stress here," Oh dear dear. You poor thing. My heart goes out to you. NOT. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMNightRider Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 "'Supermax' unit head Chanwit Karanan said inmates often shouted to ease their stress and some even banged their heads against the wall." Sounds like they are just locked in their cells with no human contact for all but 1 hour a week. Won't that bring about psychological problems or more likely exacerbate existing conditions. I believe prison should be a punishment, however it should also attempt rehabilitation. This place appears to be failing to do the latter. Where did you get the "no human contact" from? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post brianP Posted June 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2014 So Thailand hasn't discovered cell phone jammers yet? Friend of mine used to sell them to hotels and resturants. He had a portable one for demonstrating and we would go out and eat and when some loud phone rang or a obnoxious person would start blabbing he would switch that thing on and off and we had an evening of entertainment. Too bad they made them illegal. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suradit69 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 "'Supermax' unit head Chanwit Karanan said inmates often shouted to ease their stress and some even banged their heads against the wall." Sounds like they are just locked in their cells with no human contact for all but 1 hour a week. Won't that bring about psychological problems or more likely exacerbate existing conditions. I believe prison should be a punishment, however it should also attempt rehabilitation. This place appears to be failing to do the latter. "...however it should also attempt rehabilitation. " Always a problem. Not sure what type of prisons produce the least recidivism ... or maybe it's what type of prisoner is most amenable to rehab ... but it really does seem that persons held in prison usually come out as bad or worse than when they went in ... particularly young, first offenders. Maybe they should give it a try for farang on overstay or who work in Thailand illegally to see if it improves the rates of compliance (yes, I am kidding ... sort of) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooked Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 I was curious so I looked on the net. Most countries allow their use in prisons, as does Thailand apparently: http://www.thaiprisonlife.com/blogs/mobile-phone-jammers-in-thai-prisons/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post captnhoy Posted June 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2014 I'd like to know where inmates get 3 mil baht to buy a cell phone. For 95% of the population thats 30 years pay. The 5% of the population with that kind of money to spend never see the inside of a prison. 3 million baht really isn't much money for a Thai who has been selling drugs. If the inmate on the inside didn't have the presence of mind to conceal a bankroll inside their body cavity before entering prison, a fellow gang member or family member outside prison will take care of the money transaction for them. Generally an inmate who will pay that much for a cell phone inside prison, isn't calling home to mom. They are doing business inside prison, with the help of their criminal friends on the outside. I'm trying to imagine 3 million baht in "a body cavity". Hopefully all currency is in 1000 baht notes, even so - TOO BIG! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post farangbanok Posted June 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2014 I'm trying to imagine 3 million baht in "a body cavity". Hopefully all currency is in 1000 baht notes, even so - TOO BIG! Depends on how many times he dropped the soap during previous incarcerations! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Carl64 Posted June 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2014 So Thailand hasn't discovered cell phone jammers yet? The problem with that is that the staff won't be able to check face book every 10 minutes! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 "'Supermax' unit head Chanwit Karanan said inmates often shouted to ease their stress and some even banged their heads against the wall." Sounds like they are just locked in their cells with no human contact for all but 1 hour a week. Won't that bring about psychological problems or more likely exacerbate existing conditions. I believe prison should be a punishment, however it should also attempt rehabilitation. This place appears to be failing to do the latter. Where did you get the "no human contact" from? Not allowed to move around. 1 hour exercise a week. Video visits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapfries Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Sounds like a decent prison. Punish offenders. I forgot the actual stats', but do you have any idea how many actually innocents are rotting away in jail throughout Thailand; the number was shocking ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benmart Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 "'Supermax' unit head Chanwit Karanan said inmates often shouted to ease their stress and some even banged their heads against the wall." Sounds like they are just locked in their cells with no human contact for all but 1 hour a week. Won't that bring about psychological problems or more likely exacerbate existing conditions. I believe prison should be a punishment, however it should also attempt rehabilitation. This place appears to be failing to do the latter. I don't know for certain how many hours a week the prisoners are out of their cells. I can't comment on certain areas since I'm not a mental health professional who specializes in this area. As for the appearance of failing. I don't know the details, the facility, the staff, the budget or the procedures manual, so I will not label it as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 (edited) "'Supermax' unit head Chanwit Karanan said inmates often shouted to ease their stress and some even banged their heads against the wall." Sounds like they are just locked in their cells with no human contact for all but 1 hour a week. Won't that bring about psychological problems or more likely exacerbate existing conditions. I believe prison should be a punishment, however it should also attempt rehabilitation. This place appears to be failing to do the latter. I don't know for certain how many hours a week the prisoners are out of their cells. I can't comment on certain areas since I'm not a mental health professional who specializes in this area. As for the appearance of failing. I don't know the details, the facility, the staff, the budget or the procedures manual, so I will not label it as such.Going on what the OP says about not being allowed to move around and only getting 1 hour exercise a week I'm guessing they spend most of their time in their cells. I could be wrong but as for mental health, shouting in frustration and banging their heads on walls wouldn't appear to be a good sign. Edited June 30, 2014 by Bluespunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSkyCowboy Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Sounds like a decent prison. Punish offenders. I would hate to be framed by a powerful person who wants to protect their son, for example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSkyCowboy Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 "To get a cell phone, some inmates have agreed to pay up to Bt3 million. To get a SIM card, some inmates have agreed to offer Bt800,000," Yossapon said. Would be cheaper to send the bribe taking officials to a smaller less expensive prison. A friend who works in a medium security prison told me that 20 to 30 men, I don't recall the exact nu,ber) are in one cell. (One night you are BF and next GF) food cost is 45 Baht per day and no aircon, gym, cable TV etc. I suggest that the US make a deal with Thailand and let their long term prisoners be housed here in the LOS. Of course too many lawyers, cops and judges would lose their jobs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justjoined Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 After outdoing the US in the un-winnable war on drugs, Thailand is now doing the same with 'super max' prisons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostmebike Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 If it's maximum capacity is 500 inmates yet currently holds 287, the inmates should be happy they have some space, haha, beats the 'legs up', 'legs down' shifts that inmates do at Bang Kwang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tubby johnson Posted June 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2014 Can't handle solitary confinement? Then don't behave like a thug. As Jean Paul Sartre said: "If you're lonely when you are alone, you're in bad company." Don't like jail? Think you're a good person and deserve better? As Chopper Reed said: "whinge f@#kin' whinge." Don't do the crime. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belg Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 they can build a lot more one specially for corrupt BIB one for politicians one for POT smokers (they will not cause much problem if they get some fumes once and a while) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 This would be a dream come true. Thai society would be a very, very different thing, if people were punished for their crimes. With one of the weakest, easiest to purchase (super corrupt) and most cowardly judiciaries anywhere in the world, it is hard to put people away, who truly deserve it, here in the LOS. Even on the odd chance the police do their work properly, when the case gets to court, if the prosecutor has not been bought off, the judges can be. But, if the military leaders are serious about cleaning up this den of thieves called the judiciary, now would be the time to start. Seeing the top punks in a jail like this one would be delightful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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