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Thai or white rednecks on here?

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None, until you showed up.

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Thai or white rednecks on here?

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None, until you showed up.

Looked at some threads. Dont seem be much ere

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Thai or white rednecks on here?

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None, until you showed up.

Yeah, maybe some people live in real world.

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In the west AND maybe thailand too there could be a mass cultrual drive AWAY from empathy towards a word that is being brandied about a lot lately: physchopathology.

Good topic, much food for thought.

Thanks.

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In the west AND maybe thailand too there could be a mass cultrual drive AWAY from empathy towards a word that is being brandied about a lot lately: physchopathology.

Good topic, much food for thought.

Thanks.

Good point. Looks like a lot of borderline cases on TV.

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The West seems to have too much empathy that they decriminalized many things and legalized many afterward. Oh yes, they call it progress.

Nowadays, you can't watch any movies or TV series with either your parents or your kids without getting embarassed due to scenes of sex, provocative language, violence, women humping men for equality just like most men with the animal instinct. No problem, they call it freedom and liberty!

With all the empathy they have, they don't seem too enthusiastic about looking after their parents and elders though! When will I see The West has enough empathy to push for a law to punish children for neglecting and not supporting their parents like they do in Singapore and China?... Oh, excuse me...the West has the welfare to take care of them! Some would rather talk about a mandate on contraceptive on who should pay after a lay or two in the night and the contraceptive the morning after!

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How can anybody be called caring or having empathy when one neglects one's own parents?

Depends on the parents and one's childhood. I've seen some children who should take care of their parents by hanging them.

You don't seem getting my point. You apparently think most things going on in the so-called First World represent progress while I'm saying otherwise!

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Actually, I believe that 'Empathy' is the wrong term.

Empathy implies that you have had a similar experience to that of the other person.

I can't have empathy for a woman giving birth as I never can have that experience.

I can care and support and have 'Sympathy' for her, but not have an empathic feeling.

Had the term been 'Compassion' ... that is a different question.

IMHO

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How can anybody be called caring or having empathy when one neglects one's own parents?

Depends on the parents and one's childhood. I've seen some children who should take care of their parents by hanging them.

You don't seem getting my point. You apparently think most things going on in the so-called First World represent progress while I'm saying otherwise!

I said all of that? w00t.gif.pagespeed.ce.fUUOmDCInI.gif

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The above said (in my post above) ... the OP may enjoy this take on 'Empathy'.

Nice message, IMHO opnion, not technicially correct, but maybe close to what the OP feels.

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How can anybody be called caring or having empathy when one neglects one's own parents?

Depends on the parents and one's childhood. I've seen some children who should take care of their parents by hanging them.

You don't seem getting my point. You apparently think most things going on in the so-called First World represent progress while I'm saying otherwise!

I said all of that? w00t.gif.pagespeed.ce.fUUOmDCInI.gif

Perhaps it arises from reading your politically related posts and the comment that a farm girl needs to learn English in order to get out of the farm.

My assessment is that you hold freedom and liberty as an inalienable rights the moment a person is born. You throw disciplines and teachings from the parents out the door since it's "old-fashioned". Perhaps, that's why you think some children should hang their parents for disciplining their children and restrict their activities.

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Incidentally, do you prefer telling your children to bring condoms and contraceptives or just forbide him/her with an iron fist? Your answer may be: it depends?

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You don't seem getting my point. You apparently think most things going on in the so-called First World represent progress while I'm saying otherwise!

My assessment is that you hold freedom and liberty as an inalienable rights the moment a person is born. You throw disciplines and teachings from the parents out the door since it's "old-fashioned". Perhaps, that's why you think some children should hang their parents for disciplining their children and restrict their activities.

I said all of that? w00t.gif.pagespeed.ce.fUUOmDCInI.gif

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You don't seem getting my point. You apparently think most things going on in the so-called First World represent progress while I'm saying otherwise!

My assessment is that you hold freedom and liberty as an inalienable rights the moment a person is born. You throw disciplines and teachings from the parents out the door since it's "old-fashioned". Perhaps, that's why you think some children should hang their parents for disciplining their children and restrict their activities.

I said all of that? w00t.gif.pagespeed.ce.fUUOmDCInI.gif

Apparently.

Keep that up and you are back on my Christmas Card list toot sweet ... laugh.png

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Arn't schools teaching that, btw?

Which 'that' is that?

David, I mean cautioning them to use condoms and contraceptives instead of telling them not to screw around!

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Emphasy and the learning of them begins in the early childhood!

Some interesting videos I watch in you tube but only in German !

When parents take care of there children in childhood emphasy is strong if not , it's nearly impossible to teach in later life!

For me in Thailand , the people are most helpfull of all 20 country's I visit in my life, feeling the feeling of others without telling them!

Nyrologic says it's a big diffrent also in the brain structure of Asian or other country's !

In one word when not learn emphasy from childhood you never learn!

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Actually, I believe that 'Empathy' is the wrong term.

Empathy implies that you have had a similar experience to that of the other person.

I can't have empathy for a woman giving birth as I never can have that experience.

I can care and support and have 'Sympathy' for her, but not have an empathic feeling.

Had the term been 'Compassion' ... that is a different question.

IMHO

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Hmmm..... I don't think you have to have actually experienced it, although that helps. Empathy means you can imagine what the other person is experiencing. For example, I have never lost my phone, but when I found a phone recently, I imagined what it would be like to lose mine; The phone itself gone, all my contacts lost, photos lost etc....not nice, so I endeavoured to get the phone back to the owner.

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Actually, I believe that 'Empathy' is the wrong term.

Empathy implies that you have had a similar experience to that of the other person.

I can't have empathy for a woman giving birth as I never can have that experience.

I can care and support and have 'Sympathy' for her, but not have an empathic feeling.

Had the term been 'Compassion' ... that is a different question.

IMHO

Hmmm..... I don't think you have to have actually experienced it, although that helps. Empathy means you can imagine what the other person is experiencing. For example, I have never lost my phone, but when I found a phone recently, I imagined what it would be like to lose mine; The phone itself gone, all my contacts lost, photos lost etc....not nice, so I endeavoured to get the phone back to the owner.

I do understand what you mean.

Mine is a text book defination.

Here is one example ... Empathy_vs_Sympathy

Others here and here

But English is a living language ... maybe their relative meanings have merged over the years through common usage.

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Outside my Bangkok office, I use the same tuk tuk driver to take me to the BTS.

When I left my phone on the seat one day he only wanted 1,000Bt to return it.

Thai style empathy.

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Empathy has many different definitions that encompass a broad range of emotional states, such as caring for other people and having a desire to help them; experiencing emotions that match another person's emotions; discerning what another person is thinking or feeling; and making less distinct the differences between the self and the other.

How do Thai people fit on the above definition?

Except the close family, when were Thais interested in helping others?

And making less distinct the differences between the self and the other?

Have you heard of the me, me first culture?

In any country, I have been, people do help others in need.

I believe that Empathy, that is a Greek word anyway, does not exist in Thai vocabulary or thinking.

sad but true.

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Empathy has many different definitions that encompass a broad range of emotional states, such as caring for other people and having a desire to help them; experiencing emotions that match another person's emotions; discerning what another person is thinking or feeling; and making less distinct the differences between the self and the other.

How do Thai people fit on the above definition?

Except the close family, when were Thais interested in helping others?

And making less distinct the differences between the self and the other?

Have you heard of the me, me first culture?

In any country, I have been, people do help others in need.

I believe that Empathy, that is a Greek word anyway, does not exist in Thai vocabulary or thinking.

Have you ever been to the funeral, wedding, and monk ordination ceremonies in the villages? You'll find out then that they do help other. They do have empathy for other, it might not be the same level to your standard, but they do have it and to say it otherwise is simply wrong.

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Empathy has many different definitions that encompass a broad range of emotional states, such as caring for other people and having a desire to help them; experiencing emotions that match another person's emotions; discerning what another person is thinking or feeling; and making less distinct the differences between the self and the other.

How do Thai people fit on the above definition?

Except the close family, when were Thais interested in helping others?

And making less distinct the differences between the self and the other?

Have you heard of the me, me first culture?

In any country, I have been, people do help others in need.

I believe that Empathy, that is a Greek word anyway, does not exist in Thai vocabulary or thinking.

sad but true.

Not true!

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