Thailand calls for Israeli-Palestinian peace talks

[kinmaew]

Just out of interest would you consider the root cause of this conflict to be due to:

Politics or Religion?

[joecoolfrog]

The root cause was certainly Geopolitics , more recently religion has played an increasingly important role in keeping a solution at arms length.

[DPIZZA]

Waste of breath and time. Israel does not want a fair peace, for while hostilities continue, they can continue to build settlements and kill Palestinians, both things Israel likes doing.

The ONLY peace Israel will agree to is 100% their terms, ie something like "All established settlements, Golan Heights, all already conquered land, all of Jerusalem, and all un-settled Palestinian land with aquifers to become part of Israel officially.. Also, to continue to blockade Gaza, and for the UN not to admit Palestine as a sovereign state.

Bastards

Something is very wrong with you, you find every single mentioning of Israel to use it to your propaganda against Israel.

The only ones who dont want this conflict finished are Hamas. Israel left the Gaza strip in 2005 unilaterally, with no demands whatsoever. What did they get in reply? years of terror and a barrage of rocket fire.

In all Hamas communications, they clearly say that they will not stop unless all Palestine will be freed, and that meaning all the state of Israel. So what will happen to the Israelis?

Egypt suggested a cease fire agreement between Israel and Hamas yesterday, but the ones who rejected it were Hamas!

If they are the weak and deprived as you portrait them, how come they dont want to finish the fighting?

Israel warns before they bomb areas with leaflets and sms, and phone calls, to prevent civilian casualties, and what Hamas does? they make an announcement forbidding civilians to leave, and that everyone who leave the area will be "dealt with later"...

Hamas doesnt give a damn about their lives, they want as many "shahids" as possible, so they can continue with the propaganda against Israel!

The heads of Hamas making too much money from this conflict!

Do you know that Ismail Aniya, the head of "the political arm of Hamas in Gaza" have lands worth 4 million USD! all since the time he became a prominent member in Hamas!

Also Khaled Mashal, the "chairman of the political arm", who sits in Qatar has an estimated wealth of 2.6 Billion USD. Right now he is involved in a real estate project in Doha, Qatar for 4 sky scrapers, a mall, offices and rental space over 27,000 square meters!

And how do they get this money? simple: since the blockage on Gaza by Israel and Egypt, they control smuggling tunnels. They import subsidized fuel from Egypt and other commodities, and sell it 8 times its worth!

They control the construction business, so every time Israel is bombing a house in Gaza, they make money by building the next one...

And they all have people like you who support them to thank it for, great job...

Maybe I am wrong but I was under the understanding that Hamas had agreed to the cease fire also. Then immediately broke it. I remember many years ago when Israel had invaded them that Aljazeera did a documentary on it as it was going on. I expected to get the usual Muslim crap about being all about love and the injustice of it all. Boy was I surprised they were not saying it was all Israel's fault. That Israel had been provoked for many years.

Actually, Hamas never agreed to the cease fire, which was brokered by Egypt, Saudis, The PLO and others. Israel on the other hand ceased fire immediately after it accepted the terms of the cease fire.

There was a second proposal later on also accepted by Israel and refused by Hamas.

Today there was a cease fire for 5 hours for Humanitarian purposes respected by all sides, but a few minutes before the end of it, Hamas continued to fire rockets, and in the last 2 hours it fired 50 rockets into Israel.

Sorry i couldnt reply to you yesterday, for some reason, i couldnt reply- do i have a limited no of replies here?

[DPIZZA]

Northern John

Control of ' Palestine ' has always been essentially a Nationalistic/Geopolitical affair. Yep Islamic Jihadist groups have tried to portray it as a religious struggle , as have certain Orthodox Jewish and Evangelical Christian groups.

Each of these groups oppose ANY peace deal and refuse to compromise , just singling out Muslim extremists is eroneous and unhelpful.

I disagree with you.

Unlike Western societies where religion plays a back stage factor especially in politics, in the Muslim world it is a main factor in political decisions. Even what we so call "Secular Arab governments" often take advice and follow religious leaders rulings.

For example, when Egypt signed the peace treaty with Israel they didnt call it "salaam" which means peace, but another word, since peace according to Islam can be done only between countries who are ruled by Islam. The other word they used, is a word that is more of a truce "Tahadiya" and is mentioned in the Qur'an (holly book of Islam), as a waiting period until the Muslim side becomes strong enough to conquer the infidels.

It is the same with the Palestinians- it is the reason why they cant accept calling Israel a Jewish country. Did you ever wondered what is the big deal? well according to Islam every land that the Muslims conquered is called wakf, and is forever given to Muslim by Allah. That is why, they cant recognize Israel as a "Jewish land"...

So, do you still think this is not a religion conflict?

[uptheos]

Netanyahu has just ordered a ground offensive.......I think talks can be put on ice for a bit while Israel solves the problem.......once again.

Oh Hamas when will you stop killing your children?

[rametindallas]

Waste of breath and time. Israel does not want a fair peace, for while hostilities continue, they can continue to build settlements and kill Palestinians, both things Israel likes doing.

The ONLY peace Israel will agree to is 100% their terms, ie something like "All established settlements, Golan Heights, all already conquered land, all of Jerusalem, and all un-settled Palestinian land with aquifers to become part of Israel officially.. Also, to continue to blockade Gaza, and for the UN not to admit Palestine as a sovereign state.

Bastards

Something is very wrong with you, you find every single mentioning of Israel to use it to your propaganda against Israel.

The only ones who dont want this conflict finished are Hamas. Israel left the Gaza strip in 2005 unilaterally, with no demands whatsoever. What did they get in reply? years of terror and a barrage of rocket fire.

In all Hamas communications, they clearly say that they will not stop unless all Palestine will be freed, and that meaning all the state of Israel. So what will happen to the Israelis?

Egypt suggested a cease fire agreement between Israel and Hamas yesterday, but the ones who rejected it were Hamas!

If they are the weak and deprived as you portrait them, how come they dont want to finish the fighting?

Israel warns before they bomb areas with leaflets and sms, and phone calls, to prevent civilian casualties, and what Hamas does? they make an announcement forbidding civilians to leave, and that everyone who leave the area will be "dealt with later"...

Hamas doesnt give a damn about their lives, they want as many "shahids" as possible, so they can continue with the propaganda against Israel!

The heads of Hamas making too much money from this conflict!

Do you know that Ismail Aniya, the head of "the political arm of Hamas in Gaza" have lands worth 4 million USD! all since the time he became a prominent member in Hamas!

Also Khaled Mashal, the "chairman of the political arm", who sits in Qatar has an estimated wealth of 2.6 Billion USD. Right now he is involved in a real estate project in Doha, Qatar for 4 sky scrapers, a mall, offices and rental space over 27,000 square meters!

And how do they get this money? simple: since the blockage on Gaza by Israel and Egypt, they control smuggling tunnels. They import subsidized fuel from Egypt and other commodities, and sell it 8 times its worth!

They control the construction business, so every time Israel is bombing a house in Gaza, they make money by building the next one...

And they all have people like you who support them to thank it for, great job...

Maybe I am wrong but I was under the understanding that Hamas had agreed to the cease fire also. Then immediately broke it. I remember many years ago when Israel had invaded them that Aljazeera did a documentary on it as it was going on. I expected to get the usual Muslim crap about being all about love and the injustice of it all. Boy was I surprised they were not saying it was all Israel's fault. That Israel had been provoked for many years.

Actually, Hamas never agreed to the cease fire, which was brokered by Egypt, Saudis, The PLO and others. Israel on the other hand ceased fire immediately after it accepted the terms of the cease fire.

There was a second proposal later on also accepted by Israel and refused by Hamas.

Today there was a cease fire for 5 hours for Humanitarian purposes respected by all sides, but a few minutes before the end of it, Hamas continued to fire rockets, and in the last 2 hours it fired 50 rockets into Israel.

Sorry i couldnt reply to you yesterday, for some reason, i couldnt reply- do i have a limited no of replies here?

20 missiles found in UN-run school in Gaza

http://www.timesofisrael.com/20-missiles-found-in-un-run-school-in-gaza/

[Morch]

Waste of breath and time. Israel does not want a fair peace, for while hostilities continue, they can continue to build settlements and kill Palestinians, both things Israel likes doing.

The ONLY peace Israel will agree to is 100% their terms, ie something like "All established settlements, Golan Heights, all already conquered land, all of Jerusalem, and all un-settled Palestinian land with aquifers to become part of Israel officially.. Also, to continue to blockade Gaza, and for the UN not to admit Palestine as a sovereign state.

Bastards

The UN will never admit to Palestine being a sovereign state, never, not in a billion years.

This is not because the West loves the Israelis, but rather this is all about OIL. Israel is the West`s ally in the middle east, an unofficial state of America, both for military purposes and so that the imports of oil does not fall under the complete power and terms of the dictatorships within the Arab states and to protect the West from losing complete control over the situation. As a matter of fact the Israelis are actually being used as canon fodder, the front people against the Arabs gaining footholds in that region and are being financed for these reasons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Palestine#International_recognition_and_foreign_relations

Seems like most of the UN members did not get your memo.