Phuket man, 20, dies after losing vicious duel

[lvr181]

A tragic event. Condolences to his family.

But as is said when farang get into trouble "it would not have happened if you were not there". Just saying.

[Andre0720]

A knife is a deadly weapon, a punch is usually not (Unless the opposition is a professional Martial Arts type.)

"King hit" or cowardly single punches are the norm on the streets of Australia.

Yes they are, but when I spent six weeks in Perth late December to mid Feb there were something like five stabbing murders many if not all fuelled by chrystal meth. Kids in Aus now have knives in their cars and take knives to parties for self defence. I lament the loss of innocence of my beautiful country.

The use of knives to settle trivial duels are very much Asian.

When Asians started emigrating to Canada, only then did the news started reporting stabbings on the streets at night...

So the Asian culture is now spilling in Perth?

[biplanebluey]

All you commentators all sound like pussy whipped little bunny huggers. I could end your presencs on earth with these, a book, small pencil, elastic band, hand hold or one inch punch. Cars ignition keys are the best, but ice workers wonders too and does not leave a trace.... it melts. Grow up or go back to you little mollycoddled homelands.

You sound just the sort of farang they are trying to attract to Thailand.

[biplanebluey]

Words fail me, life in Thailand is so cheap and I know things like this go on in the world, but there is not a day goes past that I do not read or view on the T.V. Something similar...

What's wrong with some young people ...???

Does he not realise that he has messed up his life and will spend his youth in Jail,....

Life is precious in all aspects... Enjoy it folks, as we never know when our lights will be switched off.

To the poor victim R.I.P.

Sorry but that's the root of the whole problem------ He has not ruined his whole life as you say cos he will no doubt get off with some light sentence or fine and he supposes it is natural not to have to spend time in one of those awful jail thingies

[Jonmarleesco]

A funny idea of a duel.

[ALFREDO]

He 'defended' himself with his knife did he?

I'm sorry, but since when has a knife been for defence?.. If you ask me, a knife is for attack to inflict lethal wounds.

What the...? If you're attacked, you defend yourself. He didn't attack, according to the story. He was on defense.

He didn't attack, according to his story. And you carry a knife on you when you meet someone to sort out your problems?

Sure

"A quarrel broke out and the tattooed man stabbed the Canadian and ran away"

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/540427-angry-new-zealand-bodybuilder-stabs-canadian-english-teacher-in-pattaya/

Edited July 23, 2014 by ALFREDO

[EBlair48]

He 'defended' himself with his knife did he?

I'm sorry, but since when has a knife been for defence?.. If you ask me, a knife is for attack to inflict lethal wounds.

What the...? If you're attacked, you defend yourself. He didn't attack, according to the story. He was on defense.

He didn't attack, according to his story. And you carry a knife on you when you meet someone to sort out your problems?

Read it again, he called the dead guy, dead guy came over, punched him, he got a slash in- probably no idea of what an artery is much less where it is located. 3rd degree manslaughter probation if first offense Next case

[tommy]

Nothing in this story is true.It was a gang,he had stab wounds in the back and hip also.....

[WhamBam]

A duel? I was expecting pistols at dawn or a sword fight.

[soalbundy]

See what trouble you can get into here when you go for a slash

[Bigfarang1948]

So what is wrong with defending yourself with a knife if you are getting your ears soundly beaten, or a gun for that matter. This is self defense in my humble opinion since the knife wielder did not ATTACK the guy who died Sad that it happened anyway RIP victim

He 'defended' himself with his knife did he?

I'm sorry, but since when has a knife been for defence?.. If you ask me, a knife is for attack to inflict lethal wounds.

[KunMatt]

So what is wrong with defending yourself with a knife if you are getting your ears soundly beaten, or a gun for that matter. This is self defense in my humble opinion since the knife wielder did not ATTACK the guy who died Sad that it happened anyway RIP victim

Is this a serious question??

You are probably not going to die from getting your ass kicked. You will probably die if you are stabbed in a fight.

The difference is the difference between assault and murder.

And going to meet with someone to "sort out the problems between the two of you" and arming yourself with a deadly weapon in advance shows clear intent and premeditated murder.

Refer to the Lee Aldhouse case which covers a lot of this scenario from a beating to the murder. Not many people were defending what he did at the time and in the eyes of the courts he was not defending himself but deliberately murdered an unarmed man.

[andreandre]

All you commentators all sound like pussy whipped little bunny huggers. I could end your presencs on earth with these, a book, small pencil, elastic band, hand hold or one inch punch. Cars ignition keys are the best, but ice workers wonders too and does not leave a trace.... it melts. Grow up or go back to you little mollycoddled homelands.

[NamKangMan]

So what is wrong with defending yourself with a knife if you are getting your ears soundly beaten, or a gun for that matter. This is self defense in my humble opinion since the knife wielder did not ATTACK the guy who died Sad that it happened anyway RIP victim

He 'defended' himself with his knife did he?

I'm sorry, but since when has a knife been for defence?.. If you ask me, a knife is for attack to inflict lethal wounds.

The article does not mention any independent witnesses. So, there is only one version of events given.

If guy with the knife has a fractured cheek bone, broken jaw, missing teeth, fractured skull from a kicking etc etc - perhaps self defence with the use of a knife would be justified. I hardly think one punch to the face justifies stabbing in self defence.

In the absence of witnesses, for all we know, he met the other guy and struck first, stabbing him with the knife, which is a premeditated murder.

[spidermike007]

Phuket man, 20, dies after losing vicious duel

Darawan Naknakhon

PHUKET: -- A young man died bleeding on the roadside in Samkong in the early hours yesterday (July 20) when he lost a duel with an enemy.

Police later arrested an 18-year-old who lives close by. Because of his age they gave his name only as Chai.

Chai said that he had had a long-standing problem with the brother of the Noprit Chareurit, 20, the dead man.

He told police he called Noprit to see whether some solution could be reached. Noprit arrived and when Chai approached, punched him in the face.

Chai said he defended himself with his knife, slashing at Noprit and cutting the brachial artery in Noprit’s right arm.

Noprit ran away bleeding heavily towards Samkong Market, but only got about 200 meters before the loss of blood made him collapse. He died on the roadside.

Source: http://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-man-20-dies-after-losing-vicious-duel-47446.php

-- Phuket News 2014-07-22

Fascinating reaction. A man punched me, so I cut him wide open, and killed him. Is it me, or does the youth these days seem to have lost their way? Why the over reaction? When I grew up if someone punched you, you hit them back. You just dukes it out, and walked away, after the fight was over. Why the thirst for blood? Is it the movies, or just a disconnection with reality? Are parents forgetting how to raise their children? Are they have kids while being woefully unprepared for the task?

Spidermike

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[BigC]

I call to ban all knives! If it were not for the knife he had the young man would be alive today.

Young people have forgotten how to settle disputes....killing is not a option! RIP

Get rid of the guns. Then the knives. What's next - forks?

someone gets the death penalty and that is acceptable but of someone has been through the legal process and it has let them down then for some reason people say that person is wrong without knowing the full story.

If someone is coming at me with a knife. If i have gun, legal or not legal then i shall shoot as i can fight my case if i am alive but not if i am stabbed to death.

cannot ban guns. Thais have the right to pocess them and be licensed. As for Banned knives whats the point. i carry one with me all the time. not to protected myself they are just useful tools. cannot count how many times i have needed a knife or a friend has needed a knife to cut something

England hs a get tough on knife policy

but has it cut the amount of knife attacks down? no

because if people want to hurt someone then the knife is just an object just as a piece of wood metal or what no.

the person with the intension pr the pilot is the attacker and not the object

[pagallim]

All you commentators all sound like pussy whipped little bunny huggers. I could end your presencs on earth with these, a book, small pencil, elastic band, hand hold or one inch punch. Cars ignition keys are the best, but ice workers wonders too and does not leave a trace.... it melts. Grow up or go back to you little mollycoddled homelands.

Dear oh dear. Which book did you get that from, or was it 'YouTube'? In my experience, the people with the ability to carry out such actions are the ones least likely to talk about it. You come across as a typical 'Walt' (Walter Mitty).

[LivinginKata]

Inflammatory post removed.

[nedkellylives]

Plenty of people carry pocket knives, very handy in a lot of occupations

Office works don't, they carry staplers

[Pistol101]

Any amount of force can be used to deter an attacker providing such force is proportionate. Its called 'self-defence'... Not 'self-defence providing you dont use a weapon or tool of any kind'...

A knife is not considered a weapon per se. However, anything used to attack or defend can be considered a weapon though.. It all depends on the skill set of the lawyer defending you in court and the extent to which they engage in semantics in your favour (or to your detriment)

If I seen an old lady down the street being attacked by a 'mugger', I could lawfully AND legally (lawful trumps legal), fleece her of her walking stick and clobber the perpetrator to the extent required to STOP his unlawful use of force.. is the walking stick a weapon? not until its used as such... I could be seen to be performing the same act as the old lady WOULD do, IF she could do it... The same goes for defending myself.. 'acting before your passion has time to cool', is another 'expression' used during the defense of an assault charge (often occasioning an act of self-defence) sometimes the assailant has the audacity to actually claim excessive force (which is then up to you to defend against).

Do I agree with the carrying of such items? That depends on where you live and the level of protection you believe you require. If I felt uneasy being in a particular area where I had no choice to be at the time I may consider some options, however, its not a good idea to bring any 'weapon' to a fight that you are not prepared to lose and have used against you.... tricky situation...

This is just my opinion based on personal experience, and I stand by my convictions.. Any attempts to sway my opinion will be ignored.... cheers

[AnotherOneAmerican]

He 'defended' himself with his knife did he?

I'm sorry, but since when has a knife been for defence?.. If you ask me, a knife is for attack to inflict lethal wounds.

What the...? If you're attacked, you defend yourself. He didn't attack, according to the story. He was on defense.

He didn't attack, according to his story. And you carry a knife on you when you meet someone to sort out your problems?

I carry a knife on me all the time, sometimes a gun.

Did it in the USA, do it in Thailand.

Many of my Thai pals also carry guns.

[AnotherOneAmerican]

Fascinating reaction. A man punched me, so I cut him wide open, and killed him. Is it me, or does the youth these days seem to have lost their way? Why the over reaction? When I grew up if someone punched you, you hit them back. You just dukes it out, and walked away, after the fight was over. Why the thirst for blood? Is it the movies, or just a disconnection with reality? Are parents forgetting how to raise their children? Are they have kids while being woefully unprepared for the task?

Spidermike

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When I was young, if someone punched you, you killed them.

[Thaimaishoe]

He 'defended' himself with his knife did he?

I'm sorry, but since when has a knife been for defence?.. If you ask me, a knife is for attack to inflict lethal wounds.

What the...? If you're attacked, you defend yourself. He didn't attack, according to the story. He was on defense.

He didn't attack, according to his story. And you carry a knife on you when you meet someone to sort out your problems?

No, I carry a gun.