Israel and Hamas agree 12-hour window

[Lite Beer]

Gaza conflict: Israel and Hamas agree 12-hour window

Israel and Hamas have said they have accepted a 12-hour humanitarian window in Gaza.

The truce is due to begin at 0800 local time (0500 GMT). Efforts to negotiate a seven-day ceasefire are still ongoing.

Earlier US Secretary of State John Kerry said he was still confident of a longer ceasefire, despite media reports that Israel had rejected one proposal.

More than 800 Palestinians, mostly civilians, and 36 Israelis have died since the conflict started on 8 July.

A spokesman for Hamas, the Islamist group that controls Gaza, Sami Abu Zuhri said there was "national consensus on a humanitarian truce... for 12 hours on Saturday".

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) later confirmed the truce on Twitter, but said it would "continue to locate and neutralise terror tunnels".

"We will respond if terrorists choose to exploit this time to attack IDF personnel or fire at Israeli civilians," it said in a statement.

The news came shortly after Israeli Defence Minister Moshe Yaalon warned that ground operations in Gaza could soon be broadened "significantly".

 

Read More: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28497439

 

[bbc]2014-07-25[/bbc]

[Dragon Ball]

They're  as  bad as eachother, probably  why  no one  cares......

[Ulysses G.]

"We will respond if terrorists choose to exploit this time to attack IDF personnel or fire at Israeli civilians," it said in a statement.'

 

Of course. That goes without saying. 

[Ulysses G.]

That must be why they have allowed so many to become citizens of Israel with full voting rights, their own political parties and an Arab on the Supreme Court.. I don't remember the Nazis doing any of  that.  

 

Egypt holds Hamas at fault for Israeli invasion

Shortly after the prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu announced the launch of an Israeli ground operation in the Gaza Strip Thursday night, Egyptian Foreign Minister Sameh Shokri said that Hamas was responsible for what was happening. 

http://www.debka.com/newsupdate/8999/

[mcfish]

I was referring more to the slaughter of women and children

[Ulysses G.]

You can blame Hamas for that, but every country kills civilians during during wars by mistake. However, Hamas targets them and uses them as human shields ON PURPOSE. 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoYmuH3NOv8

[ABCer]

I was referring more to the slaughter of women and children

 

On which side?

[Scott]

An off-topic post and reply have been deleted.   

[Thorgal]

That must be why they have allowed so many to become citizens of Israel with full voting rights, their own political parties and an Arab on the Supreme Court.. I don't remember the Nazis doing any of  that.  
 
Egypt holds Hamas at fault for Israeli invasion

Shortly after the prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu announced the launch of an Israeli ground operation in the Gaza Strip Thursday night, Egyptian Foreign Minister Sameh Shokri said that Hamas was responsible for what was happening. 
http://www.debka.com/newsupdate/8999/

Nice to open this topic !

Egypt has a 20-year deal to provide natural gas to Israel...

And euh Israel dicovered end of last year huge new oil wells close to...Gaza...

Do you expect them to share the wells/pipelines with the Palestinians ?

Same old song...

Israel is an independent state but not completely for oil and gas rescources/stocks...


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[up-country_sinclair]

Twelve hours?

 

Just yesterday US Secretary of State, John Kerry proposed a week long cease fire and Israel turned it down.

 

The US needs to stop payment on the $3.5 billion (yes, billion with a "b") check it donates to Israel every year.

[Jingthing]

Twelve hours?

 

Just yesterday US Secretary of State, John Kerry proposed a week long cease fire and Israel turned it down.

 

The US needs to stop payment on the $3.5 billion (yes, billion with a "b") check it donates to Israel every year.

If you're an American citizen, you are free to lobby your elected representatives in favor or your view. 

[Ulysses G.]

Just yesterday US Secretary of State, John Kerry proposed a week long cease fire and Israel turned it down.

Hamas has refused cease fires repeatedly over the last few weeks. Israel is in the middle of an operation due to their intransigence. John Kerry can just wait until they are good and ready.

[up-country_sinclair]

 

Hamas has refused cease fires repeatedly over the last few weeks.

 

 

A week long cease fire was on the table.  It seems that it is easy for some to ignore that Israel murdered hundreds of women and children over the past week.

 

 

 John Kerry can just wait until they are good and ready.

 

 

John Kerry is the Secretary of State for the United States of America.  And what is posted above is exactly why the United States should discontinue providing $3.5 billion worth of charity to Israel.

[Ulysses G.]

Americans support Israel over the Palestinians by at least three to one and they are one of our closest allies. That ain't going to happen. 

[Jingthing]

 

Just yesterday US Secretary of State, John Kerry proposed a week long cease fire and Israel turned it down.

Hamas has refused cease fires repeatedly over the last few weeks. Israel is in the middle of an operation due to their intransigence. John Kerry can just wait until they are good and ready.

 

Yep. There  is a political problem now. Israel has lost many brave soldiers now so the majority of Israelis do support finishing the job (tunnels/launchers) to make this sacrifice worth it. That is war. Hamas brought this on themselves by forcing a land action. The idea is at the very least to DELAY LONGER until the next time Hamas acts up again. Of course there are underlying causes that won't be solved by this military action. People of good intentions hope they can be addressed but first yes, castrate the Hamas military capability.

 

Israel's not so secret weapon.

Girls (and gays) who do GUNS:

 

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[Asiantravel]

 Self genocide?!

It must be a brand new phenomenon   
 

 

An Israeli minister has defended the ground offensive in Gaza and accused Hamas of "self-genocide" by using women and children as human shields.

 

 

http://news.sky.com/story/1304322/israel-minister-accuses-hamas-of-self-genocide

[Jingthing]

 Self genocide?!

It must be a brand new phenomenon   
 

 

An Israeli minister has defended the ground offensive in Gaza and accused Hamas of "self-genocide" by using women and children as human shields.

 

 

http://news.sky.com/story/1304322/israel-minister-accuses-hamas-of-self-genocide

That does sound kind of stupid.

You know, if it was really Israel's intention to commit "genocide" of the local Palestinian Arabs, why is it that 20 percent of the Israeli citizen population is Arab? It doesn't add up, does it?

[dexterm]

You can blame Hamas for that, but every country kills civilians during during wars by mistake. However, Hamas targets them and uses them as human shields ON PURPOSE. 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoYmuH3NOv8

 

Israel should send its evidence to an international inquiry...it might get some credibility then. Other wise it is simply Israeli hearsay.

[dexterm]

 

 Self genocide?!

It must be a brand new phenomenon   
 

 

An Israeli minister has defended the ground offensive in Gaza and accused Hamas of "self-genocide" by using women and children as human shields.

 

 

http://news.sky.com/story/1304322/israel-minister-accuses-hamas-of-self-genocide

That does sound kind of stupid.

You know, if it was really Israel's intention to commit "genocide" of the local Palestinian Arabs, why is it that 20 percent of the Israeli citizen population is Arab? It doesn't add up, does it?

 

 

Well perhaps Israel should allow 5 million refugees to return to their homes In israel instead of herding them into refugee centers and confiscating their land. There is more than one form making a people disappear.

[Jingthing]

 

 

 Self genocide?!

It must be a brand new phenomenon   
 

 

An Israeli minister has defended the ground offensive in Gaza and accused Hamas of "self-genocide" by using women and children as human shields.

 

 

http://news.sky.com/story/1304322/israel-minister-accuses-hamas-of-self-genocide

That does sound kind of stupid.

You know, if it was really Israel's intention to commit "genocide" of the local Palestinian Arabs, why is it that 20 percent of the Israeli citizen population is Arab? It doesn't add up, does it?

 

 

Well perhaps Israel should allow 5 million refugees to return to their homes In israel instead of herding them into refugee centers and confiscating their land. There is more than one form making a people disappear.

 

A great example of Israel demonization from someone who doesn't accept the right of Israel to exist. Such an unconditional right of return like that would mean the end of Israel, quite obviously. One small Jewish state in a world where there are over 50 majority Islamist states is not tolerable to so many people. It's not hard to guess why. 

[up-country_sinclair]

 

 if it was really Israel's intention to commit "genocide" of the local Palestinian Arabs, why is it that 20 percent of the Israeli citizen population is Arab? It doesn't add up, does it?

 

 

Oh, it adds up alright, and Fareed Zakaria made it clear with this quote:
 

 

Israel rules more than 3 million Palestinians who will never become citizens of Israel and yet do not have their own state. As they multiply, Israel’s status as a democracy becomes more and more complex; the country looks more and more like an island of rich Israelis set in a sea of Palestinian serfs.

 

 

But somebody has to clean the toilets, right?

[Jingthing]

That's genocide? Someone needs a dictionary. Of course Palestinians have grievances. But Israel has a right to exist too based on its Zionist principles ... a nation for the Jewish people. So yes for any hope of peace forces like Hamas have got to go. Also you just twisted the issue of Arab Israelis. 20 percent are citizens, no problem. Absorbing all of West Bank/Gaza/Palestinian diaspora into a greater Israel means Israel is OVER. I know many people wish that. The majority of Israelis don't. 

[Ulysses G.]

Israel rules more than 3 million Palestinians who will never become citizens of Israel and yet do not have their own state. As they multiply, Israels status as a democracy becomes more and more complex; the country looks more and more like an island of rich Israelis set in a sea of Palestinian serfs.

Palestinian "serfs" who declared war on them 66 years ago, have lost repeatedly and who refuse to make peace. The Palestinians have to take responsibility for their own stupid mistakes.

[Ulysses G.]

So the Hamas propagandist teams are not getting equal time? There is so much inequality in the World. Life is just not fair. 

[Jay Sata]

Netanyahu blamed Hama for the kidnap of three teen in the occupied West Bank.

So he used it as an excuse to launch the present slaughter.

Now it appears he got his facts wrong.

On Friday, Chief Inspector Micky Rosenfeld, foreign press spokesman for the Israel Police, reportedly told BBC journalist Jon Donnisonhe that the men responsible for murders were not acting on orders of Hamas leadership. Instead, he said, they are part of a lone cell. Further, Inspector Rosenfeld told Donnison that if Hamas leadership had ordered the kidnapping, they'd have known about it in advance.

[ezzra]

 

 

 Self genocide?!

It must be a brand new phenomenon   
 

 

An Israeli minister has defended the ground offensive in Gaza and accused Hamas of "self-genocide" by using women and children as human shields.

 

 

http://news.sky.com/story/1304322/israel-minister-accuses-hamas-of-self-genocide

That does sound kind of stupid.

You know, if it was really Israel's intention to commit "genocide" of the local Palestinian Arabs, why is it that 20 percent of the Israeli citizen population is Arab? It doesn't add up, does it?

 

 

Well perhaps Israel should allow 5 million refugees to return to their homes In israel instead of herding them into refugee centers and confiscating their land. There is more than one form making a people disappear.

 

 

Where did you get the 5 million refugees from? the people who left Israel in 1948 and later

numbering at approx.. 500,000 , there are 22 Arab countries and Jordan is conceders to be

the real home of the Palestinians, but even king Hussein massacred ten of thousand of them in September

1970 and force all the Palestinians to flee to Lebanon and since than they are there in refuge camps for

45 years living on the UN handout,

[7by7]

Israel has lost many brave soldiers

36 Israeli dead; mainly military.

Over 800 Palestinians dead, mostly civilians, many children.

Human shields, you will say.

No excuse, the rest of the world says.

Especially when Israel bombs UN safe areas!
 

[Jingthing]

Israel has lost many brave soldiers

36 Israeli dead; mainly military.

Over 800 Palestinians dead, mostly civilians, many children.

Human shields, you will say.

No excuse, the rest of the world says.

Especially when Israel bombs UN safe areas!
 

So you are saying Israel should intentionally take more casualties for the sake of PR? Anyway that's what it sounds like you're saying.

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[7by7]

That may sound like what I'm saying to a closed mind who believes that the slaughter of innocent civilians by the IDF is right and just.

 

To every one else, the meaning is clear.

[Thorgal]

That may sound like what I'm saying to a closed mind who believes that the slaughter of innocent civilians by the IDF is right and just.
 
To every one else, the meaning is clear.

+1

Was also hoping to find on TV some expression of wise words concerning all Palestinian and Jewish victims and interesting exchange about this new conflict, but it turns out that some people see this conflict like amusement, read game...


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