Albertosez Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Bring a towel though - because they will want to lick you a lot - if I let them !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfieconn Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 This breed of dog should be eradicated Sent from my GT-I9500 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app A typical knee jerk reaction by someone who has no knowledge of the breed. Of course in this case the dogs should be put down immediately. Anyone that knows anything about A.P.B.T knows that the number one trait that couldn't be tolerated was human aggression any known "man biter" would be culled immediately. The pit bull used to be known as a nanny dog because they were so good around the family and children. They still are if raised and socialised correctly. Unfortunately like the Doberman in years gone past then the Alsatian and Rottweiler, dead headed wanna be tough guys, drug dealers and plastic gangsters took these dogs abused them and made them aggressive and dangerous towards humans. It is the owner who should be brought to answer. Not eradicate a breed of dog for attacking a human. Where does it stop? Should we then eradicate every breed that has attacked a human? Why stop there why not eradicate every animal that has ever attacked a human? Let's just start right at the top of the chain then and start eradicating ourselves because we are not too bad at commiting violence against humans either. My family has bred and raised A.B.P.T's for 3 generations in Australia and Thailand and have never had a problem. I do endorse keeping all dogs in a properly enclosed area and in the case of the larger breeds they probably should be tethered as well when the owner is not present. Stop this mindless sort of action and stop BSL What more could we expect from a PBT breeder.........they can and are a dangerous breed.....their jaws lock when in bite...a trait of a hunting dog..... In Australia they are considered dangerous because of attacks to humans.......they attack people! So you breed the passive type.....???...<deleted>.........!! Keep 'em enclosed...lock 'em up.....but when they get out they seem to attack.......as this poor woman now knows. But the breeders keep trying to tell us they're safe..........tell this lady mate! No they don't, there is no anatomical structure that could be a locking mechanism in any dog !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albertosez Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 There's no chance of educating some of the posters on here by the looks of things. "Kill them all"........... Pathetic. Sent from my GT-I9505 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Personally, I find this post pathetic. Not only are you breaking forum rules by flaming, but ignoring the statistics that pit bulls kill. What don't you understand Einstein? Killing all pit bulls is a viable option IMO. If you can't debate this in a civilized fashion, perhaps you shouldn't be allowed to post. I think you are also flaming here ? If something powerful releases it's force on you then there is a very, very good chance that it will hurt - and most likely do damage. Your comment about " pit bulls kill " is meaningless. Guns kill, Pick Up Trucks Kill, Fortuners Kill, Motorbikes kill, alcohol kills - as do drugs and many other things. Are all these things dangerous- of course they are - in the wrong hands. I have seen siblings of my dogs that have a more aggressive nature than my dogs, so make of that what you want. Do you have children - did you ever meet other children that were either better or worse behaved than your children? If so, did you just accept that the other parents were just dealt a bad or better hand than you..... and that it was nothing to do with what you did / didn't do? I would never say that all Pit Bulls are fine- or that all of any other breed is fine. However, what I will say, is that not all of them are bad either. I will repeat again - if anyone or anything that I was responsible for unnecessarily attacked another person or animal then I would consider that as my personal failure. It's very easy to dodge blame. If a person would like to own powerful things, then that person must make sure that they, themselves, are powerful enough to control them - and this applies to the wider things I have previously posted about! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacky54 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Does anyone know the best kind of poison? Good question, what do Thais use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albertosez Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 This breed of dog should be eradicated Sent from my GT-I9500 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app A typical knee jerk reaction by someone who has no knowledge of the breed. Of course in this case the dogs should be put down immediately. Anyone that knows anything about A.P.B.T knows that the number one trait that couldn't be tolerated was human aggression any known "man biter" would be culled immediately. The pit bull used to be known as a nanny dog because they were so good around the family and children. They still are if raised and socialised correctly. Unfortunately like the Doberman in years gone past then the Alsatian and Rottweiler, dead headed wanna be tough guys, drug dealers and plastic gangsters took these dogs abused them and made them aggressive and dangerous towards humans. It is the owner who should be brought to answer. Not eradicate a breed of dog for attacking a human. Where does it stop? Should we then eradicate every breed that has attacked a human? Why stop there why not eradicate every animal that has ever attacked a human? Let's just start right at the top of the chain then and start eradicating ourselves because we are not too bad at commiting violence against humans either. My family has bred and raised A.B.P.T's for 3 generations in Australia and Thailand and have never had a problem. I do endorse keeping all dogs in a properly enclosed area and in the case of the larger breeds they probably should be tethered as well when the owner is not present. Stop this mindless sort of action and stop BSL What more could we expect from a PBT breeder.........they can and are a dangerous breed.....their jaws lock when in bite...a trait of a hunting dog..... In Australia they are considered dangerous because of attacks to humans.......they attack people! So you breed the passive type.....???...<deleted>.........!! Keep 'em enclosed...lock 'em up.....but when they get out they seem to attack.......as this poor woman now knows. But the breeders keep trying to tell us they're safe..........tell this lady mate! No dog can lock its jaws ( that I am aware of ). Sure, the powerful breeds have strong jaw muscles ( lets not forget that they were bred intentionally for this ), but none as far as I know can lock their jaws - they are just very strong! If you were to see a sexy woman on the front of a newspaper ( semi naked ) and then an article written below it, my guess ( I certainly would ) is that you would look at both. If you were to see a small dog on the front of a newspaper and an article written underneath ( no disrespect intended - my best guard dog was a Westie ), then I would guess this would not really attract your attention to read or look at either ? If you put a Pitt Bull story on the front page of a news paper - along with a nice photo that has been used 10000 times before ( snarling, huge, big teeth, blood around the mouth, muscular body ) and another story ( non- related ) below this photo and headline - then I would guess you wold read both! The media make millions because they know hoe to manipulate people - I guess it works well ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albertosez Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Does anyone know the best kind of poison? Good question, what do Thais use? Jacky - I won't get angry. You probably know about loads of things that I don't know about. Let's get to know each other and then we can maybe call on each other as and when circumstances permit. You can PM me and I will facilitate a meet with examples of these " Killer Breeds " and after that you can post your comments - what ever you want ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacky54 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 The question was about poison, not a request for a list of of other dangerous breeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longstebe Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> If given the "proper" care when they are pups, pit bulls are not vicious dogs. Sent from my GT-I9505 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app That doesn't matter. They are potential killing machines. In fact they were bred to fight. Kill them all. I've even seen people letting them run loose in the park - totally insane. There is one fairly near my house that went for my daughter on her motorbike. If it does it again, it's getting a rat poison sandwich. Actually, just reading this thread makes me want to kill it today. Does anyone know the best kind of poison? There's no chance of educating some of the posters on here by the looks of things. "Kill them all"........... Pathetic. Sent from my GT-I9505 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Personally, I find this post pathetic. Not only are you breaking forum rules by flaming, but ignoring the statistics that pit bulls kill. What don't you understand Einstein? Killing all pit bulls is a viable option IMO. If you can't debate this in a civilized fashion, perhaps you shouldn't be allowed to post. Says it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Usually they use rat poison. If I see any pit bulls running off a leash, I will give them some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonsalviz Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 The dogs are definitely not the problem. Do not blame the attack on the dogs. How hungry they is also not the problem. They do not attack humans for food under any circumstances other than protection. They may have been a pissed off but that human did something to provoke the attack. The owner whether hospitalized or not should have had a caretaker for these dogs. I have had the deadly Rotweiler. He was such a fun dog. Loved bath time so he got to play with the towel that I roughly dried him with. I told everyone that he might lick you to death. I recently stayed at a local resort that had a Pit Bull. All she did was lay around. I will bet that if I had tried to do something to the owners, that would not have been her disposition. Never blame the dog. It is always a neglectful owner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post merck Posted August 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2014 I can't bear these dogs. There's invariably a sense of menace about them. And their owners too for that matter. Why anyone should be allowed to walk around in public with a dangerous animal off the leash, which if it attacked you or your loved ones, would be extremely difficult to pull off and may well kill you, beggars belief. I once saw one tattooed pit bull owner sat in the pub with his dog by his side. The owner's chest was puffed out, basking in the attention he was receiving as customers came up and nervously petted his dog, offering such niceties as "Isn't he cute" etc. The dog just sat there, expressionless, a giant pair of jaws on four legs. The only thing remotely cute about it at that moment in time was that it wasn't hanging off the end of someone's leg. At the very least, there should be laws making it compulsory for them to be muzzled and leashed in public. Ideally, the entire breed, along with their tattooed owners, should be placed in a giant industrial mincer, ground to a pulp, and eradicated. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro01 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 The dogs are definitely not the problem. Do not blame the attack on the dogs. How hungry they is also not the problem. They do not attack humans for food under any circumstances other than protection. They may have been a pissed off but that human did something to provoke the attack. The owner whether hospitalized or not should have had a caretaker for these dogs. I have had the deadly Rotweiler. He was such a fun dog. Loved bath time so he got to play with the towel that I roughly dried him with. I told everyone that he might lick you to death. I recently stayed at a local resort that had a Pit Bull. All she did was lay around. I will bet that if I had tried to do something to the owners, that would not have been her disposition. Never blame the dog. It is always a neglectful owner. Here's the rub. With these 'soft' pit bulls & rottweillers members here own - how many of them will NOT attack if they think their owner is at risk? The answer, from all the proud owners will be 'almost none'. Then the question becomes - how good are dogs at assessing human threats? As good as humans? When dogs attack children, its not because they are bad dogs but simply because they are dogs with a different set of instinctual responses to humans. You cant take the dog out of a dog. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longstebe Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 The dogs are definitely not the problem. Do not blame the attack on the dogs. How hungry they is also not the problem. They do not attack humans for food under any circumstances other than protection. They may have been a pissed off but that human did something to provoke the attack. The owner whether hospitalized or not should have had a caretaker for these dogs. I have had the deadly Rotweiler. He was such a fun dog. Loved bath time so he got to play with the towel that I roughly dried him with. I told everyone that he might lick you to death. I recently stayed at a local resort that had a Pit Bull. All she did was lay around. I will bet that if I had tried to do something to the owners, that would not have been her disposition. Never blame the dog. It is always a neglectful owner. Good post, how people can not grasp this is beyond me. Sent from my GT-I9505 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Neeranam Posted August 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2014 (edited) This is what I would wish for anyone who buys a pit bull terrier for their own sick, selfish reasons. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyptJu5QrTc Watch this and tell me they are safe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-iYiCBz7Uw Edited August 2, 2014 by Neeranam 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longstebe Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 (edited) Easy to find this stuff I suppose.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMLVokloYD8&feature=player_detailpage love that tune. Sent from my GT-I9505 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Edited August 2, 2014 by longstebe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poweratradio Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 The dogs should be put down immediately and the owner charged with aggravated assault.....plus pay compensation to the woman. To keep one vicious dog in a poorly secured area is bad enough, but 6! 6???? Problems reading? There were 4 and previous report said lightly injured and owner is a cop who was hospitalized, so dogs were not fed since Wednesday(no mention of which week or month) Previous report also states dogs climbed the fence. Owner should also be charged with animal cruelty You should read again. It does say 6... as 4 attacked ...2 stood guard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poweratradio Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 The dogs should be put down immediately and the owner charged with aggravated assault.....plus pay compensation to the woman. To keep one vicious dog in a poorly secured area is bad enough, but 6! 6???? Problems reading? There were 4 and previous report said lightly injured and owner is a cop who was hospitalized, so dogs were not fed since Wednesday(no mention of which week or month) Previous report also states dogs climbed the fence. Owner should also be charged with animal cruelty From the OP "Four of the dogs attacked the unfortunate woman while another two stood guard". Whether or not the owner was hospitalized he cannot be there 24 hours a day controlling his dogs. Why should anyone need to keep any dogs which are unpredictable & capable of killing at the drop of a hat for no discernible reason. I agree with BSJ. Again previous report stated 4 dogs and they have not been fed because owner is in the hospital . Previous report has no mention of dogs attacking other people. Previous report states dogs also killed the dog of the victim. Previous report stated dogs attacked her as she came home, this one states she was "sweeping" Previous report stated dogs climbed the fence. Who is lying? The injured wife or the husband who wants money? I nominate you to investigate all these discrepancies personally as you seem to have the facts all mixed and bothering you so badly. Oh BTW don't believe everything the news tells you LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 (edited) Easy to find this stuff I suppose.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMLVokloYD8&feature=player_detailpage love that tune. Sent from my GT-I9505 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app OMG that is unbelievable. Babies should not be around ANY dogs like that but Pit Bull terriers is so irresponsible. PBT should NOT be around people I bet the idiot person that posted this doesn't have any kids. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s8CJtVKZWs#t=25 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2556514/Baby-girl-dies-attacked-mauled-dog.html Here's another 50! reports of children being mauled and often by the nice family pit bull. http://www.dogsbite.org/staying-safe-family-dog-attacks.php Edited August 2, 2014 by Neeranam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longstebe Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Nice one Ace.http://foxnewsinsider.com/2014/07/18/pit-bull-saves-deaf-indiana-boy-during-house-fire Sent from my GT-I9505 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Nice one Ace.http://foxnewsinsider.com/2014/07/18/pit-bull-saves-deaf-indiana-boy-during-house-fire Sent from my GT-I9505 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Says it all.:) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZurf Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 If given the "proper" care when they are pups, pit bulls are not vicious dogs. Sent from my GT-I9505 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app That doesn't matter. They are potential killing machines. In fact they were bred to fight. Kill them all. I've even seen people letting them run loose in the park - totally insane. There is one fairly near my house that went for my daughter on her motorbike. If it does it again, it's getting a rat poison sandwich. Actually, just reading this thread makes me want to kill it today. Does anyone know the best kind of poison? Humans are potential killing machines. Homo homini lupus est. Yes, dogs don't kill people, people kill people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee b Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 The dogs should be put down immediately and the owner charged with aggravated assault.....plus pay compensation to the woman. To keep one vicious dog in a poorly secured area is bad enough, but 6! Just 1 minute, ive been around pitpulls and they have been fine. It is not the dogs fault what so ever. If you know anything about dogs you would realize that they are like kids. Bring them up right and they are fine, if not they are (animals). On the other point i agree that this attack is shocking and i would put them all to sleep, but as i was saying it all goes back to mentality. -3 at some points. Just saying that pitpulls can be as kind as any kind of loving dog. I also know im going to have many comebacks on this comment, but this is why we are all here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katana Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 This story has hardly settled and there's another story in the Thai press today of a 58 year old Thai woman, Mrs Warin Phonlasongkhram, attacked by her neighbour's American pit bull in Petchaburi province yesterday evening. Her left hand was bitten through to the bone causing several fractures requiring splints and her right hand and stomach had numerous bites necessitating stitches. On the day of the attack she was driving her moped to her exercise class along with her two grandchildren as passengers when the dog set upon her. Luckily some nearby Burmese workman who witnessed the attack beat the dogs off but received numerous bites themselves for their trouble. I guess they are the real heroes of the story although they don't get a further mention. The pit bull belongs to a government official who is a neighbour of Mrs Warin. His dog had tried to attack one of her grandchildren previously when it ran in her yard but the baby had been saved by her own dog who came to the rescue but died from its injuries. Mrs Warin wants the dog removed from the area to prevent someone else being attacked but the owner has so far not contacted her. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwbOTqQhj78 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 This is why they are banned in Australia. Pit bulls may be banned but Staffies aren't and cross breeds aren't. I am still unsure the difference between Pit-bulls and Staffies and so on - they all look similar to me. From what i understand a good percentage of Pit-bulls/Staffordshire Terriers/Bull Terriers in Australia are also hidden away in back yards and are not taken out into public because they are deemed a dangerous breeds (or create that impression) and because there is a huge black-market in stolen Pit-bulls and Staffies and other similar dogs to be used in dogfights which officially never happen but are common in particular communities . I have a mate with a Staffordshire Terriers who has more security in his house to protect his dog from "disappearing" than for anything else. Crazy situation . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasset Tak Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 TiT - This is Thailand! I got attacked by some dogs(don't know breed) a few years ago while on my bicycle (in the evening, NOT drunk). I went to the police station as it was on the way to the house I lived in at that time. My pants were ripped, I had bite marks and blood running down both of my legs and the first question from the police "Ma ok mai? Are the dogs ok?" And I said that I presumed that the dogs was OK so the police officers then told me to don't worry "Mai pen rai!"! They did not help me to get to the hospital (4km), they didn't do any thing about the dogs and didn't write a report... They instead told me that I was lucky that the dog was ok, as the owner(s) otherwise might charge me for hurting their dogs! So don't expect that the dogs get putt down... Especially as they are "police" dogs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSJ Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 6???? Problems reading? There were 4 and previous report said lightly injured and owner is a cop who was hospitalized, so dogs were not fed since Wednesday(no mention of which week or month) Previous report also states dogs climbed the fence. Owner should also be charged with animal crueltyFrom the OP "Four of the dogs attacked the unfortunate woman while another two stood guard". Whether or not the owner was hospitalized he cannot be there 24 hours a day controlling his dogs. Why should anyone need to keep any dogs which are unpredictable & capable of killing at the drop of a hat for no discernible reason. I agree with BSJ.Again previous report stated 4 dogs and they have not been fed because owner is in the hospital .Previous report has no mention of dogs attacking other people.Previous report states dogs also killed the dog of the victim.Previous report stated dogs attacked her as she came home, this one states she was "sweeping"Previous report stated dogs climbed the fence.Who is lying? The injured wife or the husband who wants money?I nominate you to investigate all these discrepancies personally as you seem to have the facts all mixed and bothering you so badly. Oh BTW don't believe everything the news tells you LOLOpinions are not facts, but facts that form opinion's are worth listening too. I read 6 pitbulls where involved....but some posters don't bother to read the whole article and concluded there where 4 pitbulls. Without independent eye witness who saw the whole thing the facts are we have to go with what we are told by the woman and brother-in-law and base our opinions on that. If the lead post is correct the facts are irrefutable. The husband was late on the scene so he only saw part of it, but I assume he can account for what he saw. It's an awful thing to happen. One can only hope the woman is helped to recovery by the medical team at her hospital. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacky54 Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 (edited) This guy has the right attitude to these killers, he shot one who was attacking his dog and himself after finding it impossible to stop by any other means. The continual 'it's not the dog it's the owners' excuse is utter nonsense and is no solution. Everybody thinks they are a good owner and has brought these killers up properly, until that is little Tyson, Thor or Lucifer takes somebodies throat out, as somebody said you can't take the dog out of the dog. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2l3tCdOsmI&src_vid=Q4v68uwPajE&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_71907 Edited August 3, 2014 by jacky54 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 This guy has the right attitude to these killers, he shot one who was attacking his dog and himself after finding it impossible to stop by any other means. The continual 'it's not the dog it's the owners' excuse is utter nonsense and is no solution. Everybody thinks they are a good owner and has brought these killers up properly, until that is little Tyson, Thor or Lucifer takes somebodies throat out, as somebody said you can't take the dog out of the dog. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2l3tCdOsmI&src_vid=Q4v68uwPajE&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_71907 I'm seriously thinking of starting a group called something like "killthepitbulltoday". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaidam Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Thanks for posting the vids NN, puts it all into perspective. After reading dozens of posts claiming the dogs are safe/blame the owner it was refreshing to see video of multiple unprovoked attacks on humans and animals by pit bulls. Suffice to say I would hold the owner fully responsible for the actions of his dog/weapon. If such a beast attacked one of my family members I would avenge the attack if it was the last thing I did. Really the dog owner should be charged with premeditated murder if his "dangerous dog" kills a human. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starky Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 'Staffies' and 'bullies' are killers not cute cuddly pets, anyone having them around kids is dicing with death, literally. If you want a nice natured dog around kids get a Golden retriever, or a small dog. Golden retrievers and retriever mixes have been responsible for human fatalities as well. Have to eradicate all of them too eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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