One dead, two badly hurt in meth-fueled Phuket rampage

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One dead, two badly hurt in meth-fueled Phuket rampage
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Niwat, in handcuffs, is stretchered out of the house.

PHUKET: -- One man is dead and two of his friends are in hospital severely injured after one of them, in a jealous rage fueled by methamphetamine, wreaked havoc with a meat cleaver.

Some 30 police rushed to the incident yesterday evening (August 14) after the wife of one of the victims made an emergency call.

Arriving at the dwelling on Soi Suksan Khao Rang in Phuket Town, officers found a man and a woman lying on the floor with slash wounds from the cleaver.

Chalermpol Tasurawiros, 26, had multiple wounds on his chest and ribs, while Rariya Puttawong, 29, a singer at Pink Lady 2000 on Phang Nga Rd, had been slashed twice in the stomach.

While police kept their attacker, 25-year-old Niwat Phusangsri, at bay, the two were carried out and rushed to hospital, but Mr Chalermpol later died of his injuries.

Special Unit officers under Pol Lt Col Pravit Engchuan tried to grab Niwat, who was yelling and screaming, and waving the cleaver around, but he evaded them. He ran into another room and slammed the door.

Before police could get into the room he attempted to commit suicide by slashing his own throat and then by drinking highly toxic methomyl insecticide.

Police used a stun gun to get him under control before sending him in handcuffs to Vachira Phuket Hospital.

Mr Chalermpon’s wife Monnaya Janchawong, said that Niwat and her husband had been smoking crystal methamphtamine (ya ice) and Niwat decided that his girlfriend, Ms Rariya, and Mr Chalermpol were flirting.

He flew into a rage, grabbed the cleaver and slashed Ms Rariya twice. Chalermpol tried to stop Niwat, who turned on him and hacked at him with the cleaver.

Niwat, when he has sufficiently recovered from his attempted suicide, will be charged with the murder of Mr Chalermpol and the attempted murder of Ms Rariya.

Source: http://www.thephuketnews.com/one-dead-two-badly-hurt-in-meth-fueled-phuket-rampage-47870.php

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[GeorgeO]

... and still there are people on here who suggest that there is nothing wrong with "soft" drug usage.

 

Such soft drugs usage can easily lead addicts to more potent alternatives, ultimately ending in incidents like this.

 

I firmly believe that all "recreational" drugs, and more dangerous alternatives should remain banned and pushers jailed for long periods for supplying such dangerous substances...!

[NomadJoe]

Glad to see Thai police are starting to use less-than lethal devices and techniques. I can't say I have ever seen a Thai policeman carrying a stun gun. "Grabbing" at a man waving a meat clever, who has just killed or tried to kill two people, is not a wise course of action. The officers are very lucky not to have sustained major injuries themselves. In America he would most likely have been shot. Surprisingly, Thai police are very gun shy for some reason.

RIP Mr Chalermpol, and I hope Ms. Rariya makes a full recovery. Edited August 15, 2014 by NomadJoe

[garet]

... and still there are people on here who suggest that there is nothing wrong with "soft" drug usage.

 

Such soft drugs usage can easily lead addicts to more potent alternatives, ultimately ending in incidents like this.

 

I firmly believe that all "recreational" drugs, and more dangerous alternatives should remain banned and pushers jailed for long periods for supplying such dangerous substances...!

 

Meth isn't a soft drug.  Not many people advocating legalising that stuff.

 

Most people who drink alcohol or smoke marijuana don't become meth users.

[NomadJoe]

... and still there are people on here who suggest that there is nothing wrong with "soft" drug usage.
 
Such soft drugs usage can easily lead addicts to more potent alternatives, ultimately ending in incidents like this.
 
I firmly believe that all "recreational" drugs, and more dangerous alternatives should remain banned and pushers jailed for long periods for supplying such dangerous substances...!

 
Meth isn't a soft drug.  Not many people advocating legalising that stuff.

...

Read the whole post before replying, geret.




. Edited August 15, 2014 by NomadJoe

[borisloosebrain]

... and still there are people on here who suggest that there is nothing wrong with "soft" drug usage.
 
Such soft drugs usage can easily lead addicts to more potent alternatives, ultimately ending in incidents like this.
 
I firmly believe that all "recreational" drugs, and more dangerous alternatives should remain banned and pushers jailed for long periods for supplying such dangerous substances...!

Meth and marijuana have zero to do with each other : one messes with your mind and body, the other cures a multitude of diseases. ( yes there is a large body of science to back that up ) . Read research and learn my friend

[Pi Sek]

 

 

... and still there are people on here who suggest that there is nothing wrong with "soft" drug usage.
 
Such soft drugs usage can easily lead addicts to more potent alternatives, ultimately ending in incidents like this.
 
I firmly believe that all "recreational" drugs, and more dangerous alternatives should remain banned and pushers jailed for long periods for supplying such dangerous substances...!

 
Meth isn't a soft drug.  Not many people advocating legalising that stuff.

...

 

Read the whole post before replying, geret.
 

 

Actually I nearly agree with GeorgeO... ILLEGAL soft drugs do sometimes lead to usage of harder drugs. However the reason for some ending up going onto harder drugs is because they question the sense of harder drug Laws due to the non-sense of soft drug Laws. In other words, the "Gateway Drugs" are "Gateway Drugs" because they are illegal - if they weren't fewer people would question the sense of the Laws on harder drugs.

 

Aside from review of drug Laws, the other option is to keep trying this "War on Drugs" business. Personally I cannot see a good outcome to the "War on Drugs" but if anyone wants to make an intelligent & candid statement to support its continuance, I'm all ears.

[hyperdimension]

... and still there are people on here who suggest that there is nothing wrong with "soft" drug usage.

 

Such soft drugs usage can easily lead addicts to more potent alternatives, ultimately ending in incidents like this.

 

I firmly believe that all "recreational" drugs, and more dangerous alternatives should remain banned and pushers jailed for long periods for supplying such dangerous substances...!

 

This incident could easily have happened if they were drinking ethanol. Would you then call for the banning of ethanol, like back in the days of 1920 to 1933?

 

Mathamphetamine is not a "soft" drug. Stating so shows ignorance and discredits you in any debate on the topic of drugs.

 

Though ethanol could be considered a "hard" drug based on the extreme effects it can have on one's body and mind and on society.

 

I don't think anybody has said that "there is nothing wrong with "soft" drug usage", but instead that there are fewer problems with soft drugs like cannabis, MDMA and psilocybin mushrooms. If they were made legally available as alternatives to more harmful drugs like ethanol and methamphetamine then incidents like this may occur less frequently.

[hyperdimension]

Actually I nearly agree with GeorgeO... ILLEGAL soft drugs do sometimes lead to usage of harder drugs. However the reason for some ending up going onto harder drugs is because they question the sense of harder drug Laws due to the non-sense of soft drug Laws. In other words, the "Gateway Drugs" are "Gateway Drugs" because they are illegal - if they weren't fewer people would question the sense of the Laws on harder drugs.

 

Also, dealers may offer a number of different drugs, e.g. cannabis, MDMA, methamphetamine, cocaine. Some cannabis consumers who use such dealers may then consider trying methamphetamine and cocaine due to ready availability. If cannabis was legally available e.g. from shops, whereas other more harmful drugs were not, then there would be no such "gateway" from cannabis to harder drugs.
 

[robblok]

... and still there are people on here who suggest that there is nothing wrong with "soft" drug usage.
 
Such soft drugs usage can easily lead addicts to more potent alternatives, ultimately ending in incidents like this.
 
I firmly believe that all "recreational" drugs, and more dangerous alternatives should remain banned and pushers jailed for long periods for supplying such dangerous substances...!

Lets start with alcohol as its a hard drug and has caused its fair share of deaths by fighting.

Guess you wont like that as its your drug. Weed is far less damaging.

[iReason]

Thailand. The Hub of methamphetamine.

Arguably, the worst concoction on the planet.

 

This country is saturated with it...

 

[blowin]

 I have stated here before my families brush with this evil drug yaba. My wives cousin who would be 25 this year was murdered by a crazed 16 year old neighbor. He basically broke into the house for money and cut her to pieces arms legs and neck and than tried to kill her mother. She had everything just got her accountancy degree had good job in the bank was heading to Germany to study international banking. This guy was a Ganga smoker but also used yaba and drank that concoction with the leaf. So when you see first hand what this drug can do and the lives it affects mine included and yes for the young soft drugs are a gateway to harder drugs. I know because I was around drugs years ago and saw many times at parties people taking harder drugs looking for the better buzz and normally the dealers gives this free. If you are 40 or 50 maybe different as you can make more mature choices in life. This is Aoys photo taken last year she would hate me putting it on a public forum as she was very private person but people trying advocate any drug use should see the futility of it and where it leads as thats how this guy started out. 

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[Lite Beer]

Cranked-out man kills his friend then cuts, electrocutes and fabric-softens himself

By Coconuts Bangkok
 

 

A Phuket man stabbed his girlfriend, killed his buddy, and attempted suicide when their crystal meth-smoking party took a dark turn last night.

 

Niwat Bhumisansri, 25, and his girlfriend Rarinya Puttawong, 22, reportedly arrived at the apartment of Chalermphol Pasurawiroj, 26, and his girlfriend to hang out and smoke some speed together.

 

At some point during the party, Niwat accused his girlfriend of cheating and stabbed her twice in the bathroom. Chalermphol tried to stop his friend Niwat from doing this, and for his trouble, got stabbed in the chest by his friend.
Chalermphol died later at the hospital but his girlfriend fled the room uninjured. At some point Rarinya got out and sought medical attention as well.

 

Read More: http://bangkok.coconuts.co//2014/08/15/cranked-out-man-kills-his-friend-then-cuts-electrocutes-and-fabric-softens-himself

 

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[GeorgeO]

To those of you stating that I suggested that methamphetamine is a soft drug, I made no such statement ... so please read my post again...!

 

I suggested that most "users" start with "soft" or "recreational" drugs and ultimately lead on to more dangerous alternatives leading to incidents such as we have seen here.

 

You may wish to offer reasons for your personal decision to do drugs, but you will not change my attitude towards the use of any drugs for non-essential purposes ... the world would be a better place without any of them...!

 

 

[Oziex1]

Thailand. The Hub of methamphetamine.

Arguably, the worst concoction on the planet.

 

This country is saturated with it...

 

 

Unfortunately, the world seems to be saturated with it.

No argument it is, alcohol and other drugs assist unstable people to become more unstable, this sht causes stable people to become raving loonies, have you seen the security in the admission area of your local hospital these days.

[Oziex1]

Link for Aussies and anyone interested in the mess that crystal meth creates.

 

 

http://news.google.com/news/url?sr=1&ct2=au%2F1_0_s_8_1_a&sa=t&usg=AFQjCNEVOce3rM4zlljL2p3fX-0o-S0OfA&cid=52778583342525&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.smh.com.au%2Fnsw%2Fneville-wrans-daughter-harriet-wran-charged-with-murder-of-redfern-drug-dealer-20140813-103rk1.html&ei=dbTtU7C3EoSQkwXO5IGoAQ&rt=SECTION&vm=STANDARD&bvm=section&did=-4906896870151150157&sid=6628075241071452117

[leesgems]

... the world would be a better place without any of them...!

 

 

Reality check, the world has all these substances. Wishing that it didn't will not change the facts thus is a waste of words. 

[robblok]

To those of you stating that I suggested that methamphetamine is a soft drug, I made no such statement ... so please read my post again...!

 

I suggested that most "users" start with "soft" or "recreational" drugs and ultimately lead on to more dangerous alternatives leading to incidents such as we have seen here.

 

You may wish to offer reasons for your personal decision to do drugs, but you will not change my attitude towards the use of any drugs for non-essential purposes ... the world would be a better place without any of them...!

 

 

Does that include alcohol ? As its classified as a hard drug and makes the most victims on yearly basis.

[blowin]

 

... the world would be a better place without any of them...!

 

 

Reality check, the world has all these substances. Wishing that it didn't will not change the facts thus is a waste of words. 

 

 

But when people talk about drugs and the harm they do is not a waste of words. I am no holy Joe but I have seen what drugs do to people and there is always a payback. Taking recreational drugs is FUN but after a while the fun becomes a nightmare I have seen many people badly effected but mentally and socially. But the social fabric of Thailand is been ruined by Yaba when you live in a farang area it might not be apparently obvious but in the sticks its rampant all the kids are using its like having a beer to them. Maybe our friends in the military will do some thing against this disease as it is only people like them that have the power to fight these people. I think way more important than illegal taxis or buildings etc. so keep talking maybe someone will listen.

[hyperdimension]

Link for Aussies and anyone interested in the mess that crystal meth creates.

 

 

http://news.google.com/news/url?sr=1&ct2=au%2F1_0_s_8_1_a&sa=t&usg=AFQjCNEVOce3rM4zlljL2p3fX-0o-S0OfA&cid=52778583342525&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.smh.com.au%2Fnsw%2Fneville-wrans-daughter-harriet-wran-charged-with-murder-of-redfern-drug-dealer-20140813-103rk1.html&ei=dbTtU7C3EoSQkwXO5IGoAQ&rt=SECTION&vm=STANDARD&bvm=section&did=-4906896870151150157&sid=6628075241071452117

 

There's no mention of methamphetamine in that article. The article does not support your argument very well either. A better one would have been How Harriet Wran, the daughter of a Labor legend, came undone. That particular incident was caused by a botched drug deal. So the drug laws, which has created societies of criminality, would be more to blame than the drugs themselves.

Edited August 15, 2014 by hyperdimension

[robblok]

 

 

... the world would be a better place without any of them...!

 

 

Reality check, the world has all these substances. Wishing that it didn't will not change the facts thus is a waste of words. 

 

 

But when people talk about drugs and the harm they do is not a waste of words. I am no holy Joe but I have seen what drugs do to people and there is always a payback. Taking recreational drugs is FUN but after a while the fun becomes a nightmare I have seen many people badly effected but mentally and socially. But the social fabric of Thailand is been ruined by Yaba when you live in a farang area it might not be apparently obvious but in the sticks its rampant all the kids are using its like having a beer to them. Maybe our friends in the military will do some thing against this disease as it is only people like them that have the power to fight these people. I think way more important than illegal taxis or buildings etc. so keep talking maybe someone will listen.

 

I am from Holland and seen many people use soft drugs without problems... we actually have one of the lowest drug problems.. especially if you compare it to here or USA. 

 

Dont forget alcohol is classified a hard drug.. same as meth. This classification has been made by Dutch government institutes. Other countries also accept that alcohol is a hard drug but its a social acceptable one. But it still is a hard drug. I will accept comments about drugs only from those who also don't drink alcohol else they are hypocrites.

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/11/01/us-drugs-alcohol-idUSTRE6A000O20101101

Edited August 15, 2014 by robblok

[hyperdimension]

But when people talk about drugs and the harm they do is not a waste of words. I am no holy Joe but I have seen what drugs do to people and there is always a payback. Taking recreational drugs is FUN but after a while the fun becomes a nightmare I have seen many people badly effected but mentally and socially. But the social fabric of Thailand is been ruined by Yaba when you live in a farang area it might not be apparently obvious but in the sticks its rampant all the kids are using its like having a beer to them. Maybe our friends in the military will do some thing against this disease as it is only people like them that have the power to fight these people. I think way more important than illegal taxis or buildings etc. so keep talking maybe someone will listen.

 

Your story about your wive's cousin may be tragic but it's only one story. Methamphetamine consumption is high and continues to rise. We need to look at proportions i.e. the bigger picture of all consumption. So the big question is "what proportion of all methamphetamine users are having major problems that are directly caused by their methamphetamine consumption?"

 

We know that the media likes to publish news stories of incidents in which illegal drugs were consumed like the one we are discussing here. So how frequently do such news stories get published? Once per day? (I think it's even less.) Then think of how many kgs of methamphetamine are being consumed per day. Then we can get an idea of how dangerous methamphetamine is.

Edited August 15, 2014 by hyperdimension

[hyperdimension]

I suggested that most "users" start with "soft" or "recreational" drugs and ultimately lead on to more dangerous alternatives leading to incidents such as we have seen here.

 

You make such broad statements without any scientific or statistical basis. You also have a problem with understanding logic. Just because one event happens after some other event, it doesn't mean that there is a direct "cause and effect" link. What level of education did you attain?

 

 

You may wish to offer reasons for your personal decision to do drugs, but you will not change my attitude towards the use of any drugs for non-essential purposes ... the world would be a better place without any of them...!

 

I wonder how much support there is (other than from yourself) for the banning of beer, wine, coffee, tea and chocolate, and sending people to prison for the possession and consumption of these.
 

[hyperdimension]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/11/01/us-drugs-alcohol-idUSTRE6A000O20101101

 

The scientific paper on which that article is based is available for viewing or downloading here: Drug harms in the UK: a multicriteria decision analysis
 

[Eliot Rosewater]

... and still there are people on here who suggest that there is nothing wrong with "soft" drug usage.
 
Such soft drugs usage can easily lead addicts to more potent alternatives, ultimately ending in incidents like this.
 
I firmly believe that all "recreational" drugs, and more dangerous alternatives should remain banned and pushers jailed for long periods for supplying such dangerous substances...!

Beer and caffeine are certainly gateway drugs. Alcohol and red bull should be banned and those trafficking in it exocuted.
Then perhaps these problems can be avoided

[Agyumi]

Actually I nearly agree with GeorgeO... ILLEGAL soft drugs do sometimes lead to usage of harder drugs. However the reason for some ending up going onto harder drugs is because they question the sense of harder drug Laws due to the non-sense of soft drug Laws. In other words, the "Gateway Drugs" are "Gateway Drugs" because they are illegal - if they weren't fewer people would question the sense of the Laws on harder drugs.

 
Also, dealers may offer a number of different drugs, e.g. cannabis, MDMA, methamphetamine, cocaine. Some cannabis consumers who use such dealers may then consider trying methamphetamine and cocaine due to ready availability. If cannabis was legally available e.g. from shops, whereas other more harmful drugs were not, then there would be no such "gateway" from cannabis to harder drugs.
 

It's been my experience that weed "dealers" only sell weed and people who enjoy cannabis tend not to want anything to do with meth or hard drug users. The biggest gateway drug in my opinion is alcohol.

[blowin]

 

But when people talk about drugs and the harm they do is not a waste of words. I am no holy Joe but I have seen what drugs do to people and there is always a payback. Taking recreational drugs is FUN but after a while the fun becomes a nightmare I have seen many people badly effected but mentally and socially. But the social fabric of Thailand is been ruined by Yaba when you live in a farang area it might not be apparently obvious but in the sticks its rampant all the kids are using its like having a beer to them. Maybe our friends in the military will do some thing against this disease as it is only people like them that have the power to fight these people. I think way more important than illegal taxis or buildings etc. so keep talking maybe someone will listen.

 

Your story about your wive's cousin may be tragic but it's only one story. Methamphetamine consumption is high and continues to rise. We need to look at proportions i.e. the bigger picture of all consumption. So the big question is "what proportion of all methamphetamine users are having major problems that are directly caused by their methamphetamine consumption?"

 

We know that the media likes to publish news stories of incidents in which illegal drugs were consumed like the one we are discussing here. So how frequently do such news stories get published? Once per day? (I think it's even less.) Then think of how many kgs of methamphetamine are being consumed per day. Then we can get an idea of how dangerous methamphetamine is.

 

I agree its "one story" but it but it is personal to me. The point I was trying to make (maybe not well) that you read these stories and events and make comments both good and bad but life goes on as normal. But when it knocks at your door than it all changes than you see what happens and how people's lives change its not a story its fact. I have partied and enjoyed myself so I am not pontificating or preaching I am just talking what I have seen in my life and drugs do kill and are dangerous. To robblok and I am not getting at you man but most of the major European drug lords live in Holland or Spain and thats a fact. So maybe it works in Holland but the drug business effects lots of people in a bad way I see in Dublin the living dead heroin addicts living like zombies. I can guarantee all these started smoking dope for fun I don't believe anyone picks up a needle or chases the dragon as their first introduction to drugs. But been a Coke,pills or Heroin addict or worse  meth is no fun lifstyle .

[robblok]

 

 

But when people talk about drugs and the harm they do is not a waste of words. I am no holy Joe but I have seen what drugs do to people and there is always a payback. Taking recreational drugs is FUN but after a while the fun becomes a nightmare I have seen many people badly effected but mentally and socially. But the social fabric of Thailand is been ruined by Yaba when you live in a farang area it might not be apparently obvious but in the sticks its rampant all the kids are using its like having a beer to them. Maybe our friends in the military will do some thing against this disease as it is only people like them that have the power to fight these people. I think way more important than illegal taxis or buildings etc. so keep talking maybe someone will listen.

 

Your story about your wive's cousin may be tragic but it's only one story. Methamphetamine consumption is high and continues to rise. We need to look at proportions i.e. the bigger picture of all consumption. So the big question is "what proportion of all methamphetamine users are having major problems that are directly caused by their methamphetamine consumption?"

 

We know that the media likes to publish news stories of incidents in which illegal drugs were consumed like the one we are discussing here. So how frequently do such news stories get published? Once per day? (I think it's even less.) Then think of how many kgs of methamphetamine are being consumed per day. Then we can get an idea of how dangerous methamphetamine is.

 

I agree its "one story" but it but it is personal to me. The point I was trying to make (maybe not well) that you read these stories and events and make comments both good and bad but life goes on as normal. But when it knocks at your door than it all changes than you see what happens and how people's lives change its not a story its fact. I have partied and enjoyed myself so I am not pontificating or preaching I am just talking what I have seen in my life and drugs do kill and are dangerous. To robblok and I am not getting at you man but most of the major European drug lords live in Holland or Spain and thats a fact. So maybe it works in Holland but the drug business effects lots of people in a bad way I see in Dublin the living dead heroin addicts living like zombies. I can guarantee all these started smoking dope for fun I don't believe anyone picks up a needle or chases the dragon as their first introduction to drugs. But been a Coke,pills or Heroin addict or worse  meth is no fun lifstyle .

 

You still made no reference to alcohol.. that is maybe the drug that starts it all and a hard drug doing the most damage. So do you still drink alcohol ?

 

In Holland it works for soft drugs, and less hard drugs as other places that are far more restrictive. That there are drug lords in Holland.. don't really care about that arrest them ect whatever. I don't feel attacked about that.

 

I believe that alcohol is the drug that starts it all.. how many of those people who used a needle or other drugs did alcohol first ? Still people think its acceptable.

[rethaier]

... and still there are people on here who suggest that there is nothing wrong with "soft" drug usage.

 

Such soft drugs usage can easily lead addicts to more potent alternatives, ultimately ending in incidents like this.

 

I firmly believe that all "recreational" drugs, and more dangerous alternatives should remain banned and pushers jailed for long periods for supplying such dangerous substances...!

 

Methamphetamine is not a soft drug.  I'll bet you don't mind alcohol, though it too is a drug.  But you probably would not even consider it a drug nor would you admit that it causes far more violence in society than the only truly soft drug marijuana.

 

[blowin]

Yes I drink but not to much anymore as getting old. I agree most drug taking does normally happen at parties where alcohol is available. The venture I had in life was drinking alcohol at maybe 13 so you are correct on that point. I can also see the point made someone high on weed will be mellow and do no harm but some one drunk will fight and use a knife. But alcohol weed can be controlled by some to others its the start to a life long problem.