1400 children sexually exploited in UK town Rotherham: report

[JockPieandBeans]

JPB, you contradict yourself so often with your back peddling and first denying and then restating what you said previously that it is no longer worth the effort of responding to you on what you claim to believe in any particular post.

What I will say is this:-

All the evidence shows that men, and sometimes women, of all religions, or none, commit this horrible crime.

There is no evidence at all to show that any of the accused has ever used their religion, whether that be Islam, Catholicism, whatever, to justify or excuse their crime.

Child sexual abuse and child rape, whether committed by gangs or individuals, are terrible crimes abhorred by all decent people of all religions and none.

No contradictions or backpeddling on my behalf.Try again.

All the evidence as highlighted above, points to WHO as being the biggest offenders ?

Still not want to put your money where your mouth is ?

According to this report, the five countries with the highest rates of child sexual abuse are, in descending order,

1. South Africa
2. India
3. Zimbabwe
4. United Kingdom
5. United states.

Are you trying to have us believe that all, or even the majority, of offenders in those countries were Muslim?

1,2,3 & 5 nothing to do with the topic.

The topic is Rotherham and the UK. Yes, as highlighted above, it does seem that the majority of offenders in the UK are Muslim.

50% Asian offenders. It would be interesting to know how much of that % is Muslim.

21% were White. There are white Muslims in the UK. I wonder what %, if any, were Muslim ?

17% were Mixed. What % of this group, if any, were Muslim ?

8% were Black. There are Black Muslims in the UK. What % of this group, if any, were Muslim ?

4% were Arabs. Were they all Muslim ?

Or are the stats produced by the BNP ?

[jacky54]

Mohamed was not from any of these countries was he, he was from Arabia, where men are Muslim and the girls are genitally abused, made to stay at home, brainwashed, married off to old men, not allowed to drive, not allowed out without a male escort and where if they are raped it's their fault. 7x7 does not have the figures for child rape in Saudi cos they are not telling the truth on that, as with so many other things in the home of Islam. If a 50 year old man marries a 10 year old and rapes her that is not considered rape there is it!

Edited December 7, 2014 by jacky54

[7by7]

I repeat, as you're at it again

JPB, you contradict yourself so often with your back peddling and first denying and then restating what you said previously that it is no longer worth the effort of responding to you on what you claim to believe in any particular post.

From your latest pathetic effort, despite your previous denials, you have reverted to desperately trying to prove that the men responsible in Rotherham committed their horrible crime because they are Muslims of Pakistani origin.

NONE of the evidence, from the police, social services, the CPS even the offenders themselves, backs up your claim that they committed their crimes because of their religion and ethnicity.

If you have such evidence; put your money where your mouth is and produce it.

The figures you quote? Well, I could equally say that there are Asian Christians, white Christians, black Christians, mixed race Christians, Arab Christians. Your supposition that they must be mostly Muslim is just that; pure supposition based on nothing except bigotry.

Yes, this topic started out about Rotherham; but has moved on to wider areas. Something which you are happy with when it suits you; but not so happy about when these wider discussions shows your ranting up for what it is!

[7by7]

Mohamed was not from any of these countries was he, he was from Arabia, where men are Muslim and the girls are genitally abused, made to stay at home, brainwashed, married off to old men, not allowed to drive, not allowed out without a male escort and where if they are raped it's their fault. 7x7 does not have the figures for child rape in Saudi cos they are not telling the truth on that, as with so many other things in the home of Islam. If a 50 year old man marries a 10 year old and rapes her that is not considered rape there is it!

Yes, women's rights in some Muslim countries are appalling; but the same can be said of some non Muslim countries as well.

Yes, child marriage is still practised in some Muslim countries; but also in some non Muslim countries as well. it's not an Islamic thing; it's a cultural; thing.

Try reading the links provided earlier; although you'll probably simply call the authors liars!

[NeverSure]

-snip-

There is no evidence at all to show that any of the accused has ever used their religion, whether that be Islam, Catholicism, whatever, to justify or excuse their crime.

Child sexual abuse and child rape, whether committed by gangs or individuals, are terrible crimes abhorred by all decent people of all religions and none.

I see. So this is why there has been such an outrageous number of these crimes committed by Muslims in the UK and why they can be traced to Muslims.

Thank you for clarifying.

[jacky54]

Yes, child marriage is still practised in some Muslim countries; but also in some non Muslim countries as well. it's not an Islamic thing; it's a cultural; thing.

What other countries except Muslim ones can a 50 year old man marry and then rape a 10 year old child? The prophet married and raped a child but you claim that has nothing to do with Islam because you pretend she was a bit older, those who emulate him do the same, but that's nothing to do with Islam, that's 'cultural' But the culture IS Islamic. The prophet was a rapist, not only of children but of his captive slaves. He violated some on the very day he had slaughtered their husbands. Why can you not see the connection between the rapes of the prophet and the conduct of those who want to emulate him?

[JockPieandBeans]

The figures you quote? Well, I could equally say that there are Asian Christians, white Christians, black Christians, mixed race Christians, Arab Christians. Your supposition that they must be mostly Muslim is just that; pure supposition based on nothing except bigotry.

Not my figures, they have been posted on a number of occasions within this thread.

50% Asian offenders. It would be interesting to know how much of that % is Muslim.

21% were White. There are white Muslims in the UK. I wonder what %, if any, were Muslim ?

17% were Mixed. What % of this group, if any, were Muslim ?

8% were Black. There are Black Muslims in the UK. What % of this group, if any, were Muslim ?

4% were Arabs. Were they all Muslim ?

Try reading the comment that I put beside each one.

What the figures do highlight, is that the majority of these sex attacks are carried out by Muslims.

I understand that the truth hurts you. Too bad.

NONE of the evidence, from the police, social services, the CPS even the offenders themselves, backs up your claim that they committed their crimes because of their religion and ethnicity.

Not going to labour the point again.

Just so that there is no mistaking what I said.

The atrocity of Rotherham was carried out by Muslims of Pakistani Origin.

Not by Christians of Pakistani Origin.

Not by Jews of Pakistani Origin.

Not by Athiests of Pakistani Origin.

Not by Hindu's of Pakistani Origin.

Not by Sikh's of Pakistani Origin.

I cant make it any clearer for you.

The stats above tells its own story.

[wilcopops]

there are "lies, dam lies and statistics" - (attrib - Mark Twain Benjamin Disraeli)

[jacky54]

Nobody explains the motivation of Muslim rapists in the UK better than this guy, of course 7x7 will say he's a Christian that 'hates' Muslims!

Edited December 8, 2014 by jacky54

[ggold]

......Asians (whatever that actually means, sort of doubt we're talking about Japanese offenders here, but that's PC for you)......

Your not British, then?

In the UK 'Asian' refers to people from South Asia; that is Bangladesh, India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka.

Nothing to do with political correctness, just the way it's always been.

Probably because until the middle 20th century most people from Asia visiting or living in the UK were either Chinese, who were and still are called Chinese, or from what was at the time the Indian Empire.

Fair enough, and thanks for the explanation. Well, what are other Asians called, then? (as a group, if there is indeed such a separate term).

Reading some of the linked material, I get the impression not all Asians are very happy about being lumped together.

I think once you go east from the Indian continent People become Oriental i.e Chinese Japanese and possibly Thailand and neighbouring countries!

[ggold]

JPB, you contradict yourself so often with your back peddling and first denying and then restating what you said previously that it is no longer worth the effort of responding to you on what you claim to believe in any particular post.

That you have included a heavily edited quote from a different topic to yet again make covert threats shows you up for what you are.

What I will say is this:-

All the evidence shows that men, and sometimes women, of all religions, or none, commit this horrible crime.

There is no evidence at all to show that any of the accused has ever used their religion, whether that be Islam, Catholicism, whatever, to justify or excuse their crime.

Child sexual abuse and child rape, whether committed by gangs or individuals, are terrible crimes abhorred by all decent people of all religions and none.

While I would agree with that, in so far that they have not used their religion as a reason! I would suggest it is the cultural/religious view of these Asian men that white girls are inferior infidels they could threaten and use as they wished. I am also sure none of the Asian girls abused were Muslim!

So this IMO was a racially targeted crime, arguably made worse by the failure of authorities to act when they should have. Because of the racial connotations of the crime.

[Morch]

JPB, you contradict yourself so often with your back peddling and first denying and then restating what you said previously that it is no longer worth the effort of responding to you on what you claim to believe in any particular post.

That you have included a heavily edited quote from a different topic to yet again make covert threats shows you up for what you are.

What I will say is this:-

All the evidence shows that men, and sometimes women, of all religions, or none, commit this horrible crime.

There is no evidence at all to show that any of the accused has ever used their religion, whether that be Islam, Catholicism, whatever, to justify or excuse their crime.

Child sexual abuse and child rape, whether committed by gangs or individuals, are terrible crimes abhorred by all decent people of all religions and none.

I do not think that there was a very strong claim on linked sources that showed religious affiliation as justification.

I do not know that these men did it because they are Muslim.

Not saying there is a direct causality here, but there is obviously some correlation involving ethnicity here. One may claim

that this is muddied due to economic/occupational factors relevant to said group - should be easy enough to compare with

similar situation elsewhere. Breaking down the "Asian" group to Muslims/non-Muslims and re-checking figures accordingly

may give additional information.

Religion may not be a direct cause in this, not an imperative or a justification to commit these crimes. But it could, however,

play a facilitating role.

[simple1]

Snip

I am also sure none of the Asian girls abused were Muslim!

From the Rotherham report:

11.17 With hindsight, it is clear that women and girls in the Pakistani community in

Rotherham should have been encouraged and empowered by the authorities to

speak out about perpetrators and their own experiences as victims of sexual

exploitation, so often hidden from sight.

11.15 The UK Muslim Women's Network produced a report on CSE in September 2013

which drew on 35 case studies of women from across the UK who were victims, the

majority of whom were Muslim. It highlighted that Asian girls were being sexually

exploited where authorities were failing to identify or support them. They were most

vulnerable to men from their own communities who manipulated cultural norms to

prevent them from reporting their abuse. It described how this abuse was being

carried out. 'Offending behaviour mostly involved men operating in groups . . . The

victim was being passed around and prostituted amongst many other men. Our

research also showed that complex grooming ‘hierarchies’ were at play. The physical

abuse included oral, anal and vaginal rape; role play; insertion of objects into the

vagina; severe beatings; burning with cigarettes; tying down; enacting rape that

included ripping clothes off and sexual activity over the webcam.' This description

mirrors the abuse committed by Pakistani-heritage perpetrators on white girls in

Rotherham.

Edited December 8, 2014 by simple1

[ggold]

Snip

I am also sure none of the Asian girls abused were Muslim!

From the Rotherham report:

11.17 With hindsight, it is clear that women and girls in the Pakistani community in

Rotherham should have been encouraged and empowered by the authorities to

speak out about perpetrators and their own experiences as victims of sexual

exploitation, so often hidden from sight.

11.15 The UK Muslim Women's Network produced a report on CSE in September 2013

which drew on 35 case studies of women from across the UK who were victims, the

majority of whom were Muslim. It highlighted that Asian girls were being sexually

exploited where authorities were failing to identify or support them. They were most

vulnerable to men from their own communities who manipulated cultural norms to

prevent them from reporting their abuse. It described how this abuse was being

carried out. 'Offending behaviour mostly involved men operating in groups . . . The

victim was being passed around and prostituted amongst many other men. Our

research also showed that complex grooming ‘hierarchies’ were at play. The physical

abuse included oral, anal and vaginal rape; role play; insertion of objects into the

vagina; severe beatings; burning with cigarettes; tying down; enacting rape that

included ripping clothes off and sexual activity over the webcam.' This description

mirrors the abuse committed by Pakistani-heritage perpetrators on white girls in

Rotherham.

I stand corrected. But still doesn't change my view that there is a cultural attitude involved in what happened.

[JockPieandBeans]

Snip

I am also sure none of the Asian girls abused were Muslim!

From the Rotherham report:

11.17 With hindsight, it is clear that women and girls in the Pakistani community in

Rotherham should have been encouraged and empowered by the authorities to

speak out about perpetrators and their own experiences as victims of sexual

exploitation, so often hidden from sight.

11.15 The UK Muslim Women's Network produced a report on CSE in September 2013

which drew on 35 case studies of women from across the UK who were victims, the

majority of whom were Muslim. It highlighted that Asian girls were being sexually

exploited where authorities were failing to identify or support them. They were most

vulnerable to men from their own communities who manipulated cultural norms to

prevent them from reporting their abuse. It described how this abuse was being

carried out. 'Offending behaviour mostly involved men operating in groups . . . The

victim was being passed around and prostituted amongst many other men. Our

research also showed that complex grooming ‘hierarchies’ were at play. The physical

abuse included oral, anal and vaginal rape; role play; insertion of objects into the

vagina; severe beatings; burning with cigarettes; tying down; enacting rape that

included ripping clothes off and sexual activity over the webcam.' This description

mirrors the abuse committed by Pakistani-heritage perpetrators on white girls in

Rotherham.

That is indeed correct Simple 1.

There are atrocities carried out by Muslims against Muslim women.

There are various reasons for it to be hidden from the authorities.

1. The dishonour that it brings on the families.

2. Certain sections of society that prefer to police themselves, as has been described on this forum.

3. The culture.

I could go on, but I think I have made my point.

When you have lived and worked in Muslim Countries, seen first hand what happens in those Countries. It is absolute lunacy to believe that they will come to Western Countries and not continue to do what they do freely in their own Countries.

[jacky54]

Islam again, they prefer to defile kaffir children as they are worth less than cattle in the eyes of some Muslims, but as all women are worth less than Muslim men and property in Islam, to be beaten, bought, oppressed and used for male gratification, at a pinch a muslim will do, if there are no unbelievers at hand. The driving corrupting force for these criminals is still the koran and the life of the prophet. Remember the prophet also raped Muslim children!

[7by7]

Yes, child marriage is still practised in some Muslim countries; but also in some non Muslim countries as well. it's not an Islamic thing; it's a cultural; thing.

What other countries except Muslim ones can a 50 year old man marry and then rape a 10 year old child?

Geography of a Problem

The practice persists to varying degrees around the globe. The highest prevalence rates, commonly measured by the percentage of women aged twenty to twenty-four who report being married before eighteen, are found in South Asia and West and Central Africa, where an estimated two out of five girls are married as children. However, in terms of absolute numbers, India surpasses other countries by a wide margin: about 40 percent of all child marriages take place there.

Have a look at the map on that page as well as the table.

Of the top ten countries in that table, 4 are predominantly Christian, one is predominantly Hindu and one is roughly 50/50 Muslim and Christian. Leaving just 4 which are predominantly Muslim; the same as the number of Christian countries!

BTW, I do not need to pretend anything about Aisha's age. The only source which gives it was written 200 years after her death and contradicted in another hadith by the same author!

Actual historical records show that she must have been older; unless she was a traveller in the TARDIS!

[7by7]

JPB, as your latest set of posts merely repeat what you have posted many times before, and as I have provided solid evidence to refute your assertions previously I see no need to do so again.

You and your fellows wont believe any evidence which shows your prejudice for what it is; so there's no point in my repeating myself.

[JockPieandBeans]

JPB, as your latest set of posts merely repeat what you have posted many times before, and as I have provided solid evidence to refute your assertions previously I see no need to do so again.

You and your fellows wont believe any evidence which shows your prejudice for what it is; so there's no point in my repeating myself.

You have not provided any proof of anything. You have provided your one sided assertions.

Of the top ten countries in that table, 4 are predominantly Christian, one is predominantly Hindu and one is roughly 50/50 Muslim and Christian. Leaving just 4 which are predominantly Muslim; the same as the number of Christian countries!

Why you going around the world again ? The topic is Rotherham in the UK

It can be taken as a given that the majority of rapes in Sub-Sahara Africa will be carried out by Blacks.

Ditto China committed by Chinese, and the same for almost every other Country,

But the UK is bucking the trend.

It is asians who are at the top of the REPTILE league.

You deny, deflect and ignore when you are provided with proof.

But keep going, you will soon get the topic closed, which is your ultimate goal.

Edited December 8, 2014 by JockPieandBeans

[jacky54]

Geography of a Problem

Have a look at the map on that page as well as the table.

Of the top ten countries in that table, 4 are predominantly Christian,

That site will not load, does it give any Christian countries where 50 Year old can legally marry a 10 year old and then rape her, as is the case in some Muslim counties?

The age of Aisha is of course one of the most embarrassing facts about the prophet and there has been great efforts to present her age as being pubescent without any proof from the time, the hadith remains the most authoritative source:

http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/prepubescent.htm

Narrated 'Aisha:

that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death). (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64; see also Numbers 65 and 88)

SAHIH MUSLIM

'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old,

and I was admitted to his house at the age of nine

SUNAN ABU DAWUD

Aisha said: The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) married me when I was seven years old. The narrator Sulaiman said: Or six years.

He had intercourse with me when I was nine years old

. (

Sunan Abu Dawud

, Number 2116)

SUNAN NASA‘I

… When Hadrat Aisha passed nine years of marriage life, the Holy Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) fell in mortal sickness… ‘A’isha was eighteen years of age at the time when the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) passed away and she remained a widow for forty-eight years till she died at the age of sixty-seven

All wrong according to the noted Islamic Scholar 7x7 who admits to never having read the Koran!

Edited December 8, 2014 by jacky54

[7by7]

Why you (7by7) going around the world again ? The topic is Rotherham in the UK

Do you not read your mate's posts?

I was answering a direct question from one of them!

What other countries except Muslim ones can a 50 year old man marry and then rape a 10 year old child?

As said to you before; you are happy to move outside the narrow confines of Rotherham yourself when it suits you; but hate others doing so when it shows your views to be the rubbish they are.

Jacky54, the link opens for me; here is the URL; http://www.cfr.org/peace-conflict-and-human-rights/child-marriage/p32096#!/?cid=otr_marketing_use-child_marriage_Infoguide%23!%2F.

If it still wont open, try copying and pasting it into the address line of your browser. But beware; you will not like what you find there as it disproves your prejudices.

As said before; all the actual historical evidence, not my evidence but that of Islamic scholars, shows that Aisha must have been older than 12, probably closer to 18, when she married Mohammed.

As said to you before, the age of consent in most parts of the world, certainly in Christendom, at that time was reckoned to be when a girl started menstruating.

Unfortunately, it is not just you who ignores the historical evidence about her age; some Muslim men do use the inaccurate hadith to justify sexually abusing pre pubescent girls.

But they do so against the law in all Muslim countries bar Saudi; which is the only one with no formal age of consent. (source)

As said earlier, it was not until the 19th century that the age of consent in the UK was raised from 12 to 13 and then 16. In Spain it is still 13.

All other points, such as the real reasons grooming gangs in the UK are disproportionately Muslim; the reasons why the majority of their victims, but by no means all, were white and the fact that white, non Muslims account for the majority of child sexual abuse in the UK, but as individuals rather than in gangs, have been dealt with previously.

Repeating these facts will serve no purpose as you both, and those as prejudiced as yourselves, will yet again either ignore them or dismiss them as lies.

Your aim is not to examine the real reasons for this terrible crime, nor to discuss ways of decreasing it; whether committed by gangs or individuals.

Your sole aim is to demonise all Muslim men because of the crimes of a few.

Edited December 8, 2014 by 7by7

[JockPieandBeans]

All other points, such as the real reasons grooming gangs in the UK are disproportionately Muslim; the reasons why the majority of their victims, but by no means all, were white and the fact that white, non Muslims account for the majority of child sexual abuse in the UK, but as individuals rather than in gangs, have been dealt with previously.

I think you will find that you have went out your way to deny the real reasons.

[JockPieandBeans]

One of the reasons that these atrocities were allowed to go unchecked.

PC BS and a fear of being branded racist.

A story of rampant child abuse—ignored and abetted by the police—is emerging out of the British town of Rotherham. Until now, its scale and scope would have been inconceivable in a civilized country. Its origins, however, lie in something quite ordinary: what one Labour MP called “not wanting to rock the multicultural community boat.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerscruton/2014/08/30/why-did-british-police-ignore-pakistani-gangs-raping-rotherham-children-political-correctness/

And the same thing was happening in Rochdale. And in Rotherham. And inDerby. And in Oldham. And, of course, in Bradford, that stronghold of vibrancy, where “at least 30 men have been arrested in the past few months over child sex-grooming allegations.” No, make that “54 suspects.” Nor has London, Britain’s Ground Zero of Vibrant Enrichment, been left out: “The Metropolitan police are setting up a specialist unit to counter Rochdale-style child sex abuse in London.”

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2013/05/the-blessings-of-diversity-muslim-sex-crimes-101-with-statistical-sue/

No doubt these articles will be denounced as nothing more than BNP inspired racism.

[wilcopops]

One of the reasons that these atrocities were allowed to go unchecked.

PC BS and a fear of being branded racist.

A story of rampant child abuse—ignored and abetted by the police—is emerging out of the British town of Rotherham. Until now, its scale and scope would have been inconceivable in a civilized country. Its origins, however, lie in something quite ordinary: what one Labour MP called “not wanting to rock the multicultural community boat.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerscruton/2014/08/30/why-did-british-police-ignore-pakistani-gangs-raping-rotherham-children-political-correctness/

And the same thing was happening in Rochdale. And in Rotherham. And inDerby. And in Oldham. And, of course, in Bradford, that stronghold of vibrancy, where “at least 30 men have been arrested in the past few months over child sex-grooming allegations.” No, make that “54 suspects.” Nor has London, Britain’s Ground Zero of Vibrant Enrichment, been left out: “The Metropolitan police are setting up a specialist unit to counter Rochdale-style child sex abuse in London.”

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2013/05/the-blessings-of-diversity-muslim-sex-crimes-101-with-statistical-sue/

No doubt these articles will be denounced as nothing more than BNP inspired racism.

I always think it's a good idea to find out what a word or phrase means BEFORE I use it....... how's about looking up PC? - of course you'll need to know how to find out about its usage and meaning, and if you're thinking of using a dictionary....well that would just re-confirm my suspicions about your abilities anyway.

Edited December 8, 2014 by wilcopops

[wilcopops]

inbox also has to wonder at the obsessive even salacious fixation by some posters on this topic.

"methinks they doth protest too much" - I'd be a bit concerned I might arouse the interests of any police psychologists perusing this thread.

[JockPieandBeans]

Cocopops

It is also a good idea to read the articles before commenting.

It explains in great detail the PC BS that contributed to these atrocities.

But if you have nothing to add to the topic, other than have a dig at me, off you pop and eat your cocopops.

[wilcopops]

Cocopops

It is also a good idea to read the articles before commenting.

It explains in great detail the PC BS that contributed to these atrocities.

But if you have nothing to add to the topic, other than have a dig at me, off you pop and eat your cocopops.

Sadly you don't seem to understand that either.

[Jay Sata]

What did Lee Rigby die for?

I hope for the right for my son,a Royal Navy Officer,in a senior command position to carry the flag of freedom and justice that Jockpie has done for his country in 20 years of service.

The freedom to wear his uniform in public.

In Rotherham the rights and freedom and respect for individuals was ripped away by foreign animals exploiting our hospitality and benefit system while treating their victims as kafirs.

That last word has a terrible meaning in Muslim terminology but basically means lower than a dog.

I ask you again to read the words of the judge

Edited December 8, 2014 by Jay Sata

[jacky54]

Married, raped and divorced by ten years old thanks to the Prophet and Islam

[nontabury]

Why is it that causes, other than the criminal offenders from a Muslim background, such as disfunctional families, socio economic factors, widespread drug and alcohol abuse, under age youths being paid prostitues etc - all indicators of a malise within UK society - are not being discussed in this topic?

Re your last paragraph, "yes" these are also important factors, but what we are discussing here is the sexual explosion of children by Muslim men, who have, and probably still are,purposely targeting children of a different colour and religion. And in the meantime Apologist like you, are giving these racist animals the encouragement to continue. Shame on you.

What the rational members here are trying to discuss is child abuse; the causes of same and how to prevent it.

That idiots and bigots want to concentrate on the ethnicity and religious background of some offenders whilst dismissing that of others because it doesn't fit their bigoted agenda is not going to help the future victims of this crime.

Suggesting that mosques are in some way teaching Muslim men how to entrap and groom vulnerable young girls, rather than looking for the real causes, is not going to help reduce this terrible crime.

Neither is throwing childish insults at the rational.

hopefully the relevant authorities have learned from past mistakes, and as well as rejecting the PC brigade are also rejecting the moronic ideas of those whose aim is not to protect children, but to demonise Muslims.

I think your 2nd paragraph should have read " That idiots and bigots want to apologize for the

Ethnicity and religious background of some offenders, and in so doing are giving these animals

The green light to continue with their vile practices, is not going to protect those children and to stop FURTHER occarences."