Thai teen killed after fight over karaoke song

[joshstiles]

bad singing can cause health problems...i guess

and it does not deflect bullets

some singing can shatter glass....but this does not mean it is bullet proof

[NongKhaiKid]

RIP-what a useless way to go.

if this is Thailand's future i am concerned to raise my child here.

It's so sad anyone has to think like this but perfectly understandable.

An acquaintance of mine riding his m/cycle home at night was surrounded by young Thai men on m/cycles who simply stared at him, as a very good Thai speaker he asked what the problem was etc and the Thais rode off.

Next day he told his Thai neighbour who made it clear he should not do that again as so many youngsters in Udon Thani are armed and he had taken a big chance by challenging them.

What a frightening thought.

So asking what the problem is, is now a challenge?

By what logic, it seems the stare down was an active challenge.

But by not being aggressive, only asking in Thai what was the problem,

would seem a perfect response, since there seemed to be none,

and since he showed good Thai language and wasn't disrespectful they drove off.

I suspect they thought he was an interloper on their territory,

spy for another gang, or some mistaken identify issue.

When he clearly had no idea what they were on about they left.

Would stony silence have been more effective or safer?

Hard to see why.

Are you forgetting TIT ?

[sawati]

Many short fused folks in the Smiles Country.

[animatic]

RIP-what a useless way to go.

if this is Thailand's future i am concerned to raise my child here.

It's so sad anyone has to think like this but perfectly understandable.

An acquaintance of mine riding his m/cycle home at night was surrounded by young Thai men on m/cycles who simply stared at him, as a very good Thai speaker he asked what the problem was etc and the Thais rode off.

Next day he told his Thai neighbour who made it clear he should not do that again as so many youngsters in Udon Thani are armed and he had taken a big chance by challenging them.

What a frightening thought.

So asking what the problem is, is now a challenge?

By what logic, it seems the stare down was an active challenge.

But by not being aggressive, only asking in Thai what was the problem,

would seem a perfect response, since there seemed to be none,

and since he showed good Thai language and wasn't disrespectful they drove off.

I suspect they thought he was an interloper on their territory,

spy for another gang, or some mistaken identify issue.

When he clearly had no idea what they were on about they left.

Would stony silence have been more effective or safer?

Hard to see why.

Are you forgetting TIT ?

Well no not really.

I know logic for the west doesn't work here,

I was trying to think in 'Thai face of young punks' mode, not so easy to do of course.

How do you diffuse the unexpected and illogical confrontation and let the aggressors keep face?

Not so terrible different than inner city gang mode in the west though.

Say little but make them seem to gain face and see no benefit to continuing the challenge.

[Vermor]

Their examples are every day on TV in popular soap series. People get impregnated with excessive violence whole day long on TV, not surprising they act it out...

What about American and european movies ???!!!! And reality show ? And video games ?

Come on ! Thai soap series are not worst than our "culture"...

[BradinAsia]

These are the values and morals taught. Is this what Thainess is? Life is worth less than getting to sing a song first.

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You could substitute most any nationality in this story. How is it related to Thainess?

Maybe more related to the TVF-ness of sweeping generalizations.

[mdmayes]

What a waste if life.

[tracker1]

Again child mentality !!!!! whats wrong with a good old verbal and leave it at that

[ratcatcher]

Forget the dinner vest, bring your bullet-proof vest and metal detector to dinner, clubs, 7-11's, bars, taxi rides, your own locks on the night trains to Bangkok.Reinforced car door panels ( I beeped a rude Thai blocking 2 lanes as he went into 7-11 and he kicked in my door and fender and I couldn't exit my vehicle to kick his ass because several others push my doors closed before the police came and waved me on and did nothiing to the Thai).

The people here in a general population area are more dangerous then my country of America.

The guys who closed your door and urged you to leave probably saved your ass.

Are you a recent arrival or someone who's been here since Ho Chi Minh died? Thais will gang up on a farang like a pack of wild dogs, given the right incentive.

Stay cool, and I know it's not easy with some of these antics they pull.

[Patje]

Thailand : hub of uncontrolled anger & violence

What useless way to go !!

[JSPS]

I once was subjected to a drunk Japanese tourist karaokeing Hank Williams at at a bar on Soi Cowboy. I still don't know what I would have done if I had been armed. But it probably would have ended badly for both of us.

[JeremyBowskill]

My conversation would go more like this:

Other group, "we requested this song first!"

Me, "that's funny cos I didn't request any F'in song!"

Other group, "mind if we sing it then?"

Me, "please go ahead, I would rather trap my nuts in a revolving door than do Karaoke!"

Guess i'm just not Asian enough, Karaoke to me spells public humiliation and why people would wanna pay for it is way beyond me............

Karaoke is fantastic fun, for those who can sing and for those wannabees. You don't have to be Asian, only people who enjoy singing or want to try. Revolving door---try to find one.

This is a sad situation, I would suggest drink involved together with one or two bad words--hey presto--Thais cannot take it.

Different strokes for different folks, I guess...... glad you enjoy it though, personally I don't know what's worse, doing it or suffering others doing it........

Doesn't Swampy Airport have revolving doors?

Edited August 29, 2014 by JeremyBowskill

[Paulzed]

These are the values and morals taught. Is this what Thainess is? Life is worth less than getting to sing a song first.

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One time when on a river taxi on the Chao praya, the Thai man on the dock was blowing his whistle and waving his hands about, with not logic or reason to what he was doing.

I assume that he was to make sure the boat was not over loaded then blow his whistle to let the pilot know it was safe to go, this wasn’t happening and there was a lot of confusion between him the pilot

A family of five, mother, father and three kids walked up to the boat, the mother escorted the kids on the boat to make sure they got on safely she was still on the pier when the Thai whistle man, blew his whistle in her ear and pulled her back from the boat.

The boat took off and the lady said “stop the boat my children are on there”, whistle man blew the whistle as hard as he could at her and pushed her to the floor, she landed on her ass, the husband who was about 5 foot 5” and weighed no more than 60kgs ran up to his wife to help her up, when four Thai men pounced on him a started to give him a beating, the wife got up and started screaming “ help police help”

One of the Thai men gave her a Muay Thai kick to the leg and she was down again.

Westerners on the boat started shouting stop the boat stop the boat, the Thais acted if nothing was wrong and ignored the situation, by this time the kids were screaming for their mother and father who they saw getting beaten up.

A group of us took the kids to the police booth at the next ferry stop and gave a statement about what happened.

The police response to this was “Oh yes, very bad parents, they shouldn’t leave the children alone on the boat and make trouble for other people like that.

And for me, whenever I hear or read the term “Thainess” I always think about that event.

[Kabula]

Scary!!

It can all end in a second.

[duidui45]

Alcohol infused Thais..not good mix..Well that goes for ANY nationality i guess..The world would be a much better place without it..

Year of Thainess: Shoot a kid because the same song is requested.

[ginjag]

My conversation would go more like this:

Other group, "we requested this song first!"

Me, "that's funny cos I didn't request any F'in song!"

Other group, "mind if we sing it then?"

Me, "please go ahead, I would rather trap my nuts in a revolving door than do Karaoke!"

Guess i'm just not Asian enough, Karaoke to me spells public humiliation and why people would wanna pay for it is way beyond me............

Karaoke is fantastic fun, for those who can sing and for those wannabees. You don't have to be Asian, only people who enjoy singing or want to try. Revolving door---try to find one.

This is a sad situation, I would suggest drink involved together with one or two bad words--hey presto--Thais cannot take it.

Different strokes for different folks, I guess...... glad you enjoy it though, personally I don't know what's worse, doing it or suffering others doing it........

Doesn't Swampy Airport have revolving doors?

My guess is you cannot sing, or fail miserably, fail to appreciate most people that enjoy singing, please note most of the worlds top singers get their first name to fame at Karaoke. Is it the name Karaoke that you dislike, or anyone singing, as many a song has lifted the hearts in wartime/elderly/infirm/kids/..... I would love to hear more people sing than those who want to cause problems in this world.

Sadly here is a case than went wrong, it happened to be at a Karaoke. Lighten up, go to one and sing " we are the world "

[ginjag]

My conversation would go more like this:

Other group, "we requested this song first!"

Me, "that's funny cos I didn't request any F'in song!"

Other group, "mind if we sing it then?"

Me, "please go ahead, I would rather trap my nuts in a revolving door than do Karaoke!"

Guess i'm just not Asian enough, Karaoke to me spells public humiliation and why people would wanna pay for it is way beyond me............

Karaoke is fantastic fun, for those who can sing and for those wannabees. You don't have to be Asian, only people who enjoy singing or want to try. Revolving door---try to find one.

This is a sad situation, I would suggest drink involved together with one or two bad words--hey presto--Thais cannot take it.

Different strokes for different folks, I guess...... glad you enjoy it though, personally I don't know what's worse, doing it or suffering others doing it........

Doesn't Swampy Airport have revolving doors?

Ha Ha I was joking for you to find a revolving door (for your quote. " nuts ")

[ldnguy]

These are the values and morals taught. Is this what Thainess is? Life is worth less than getting to sing a song first.

Sent from my GT-S5310 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Don't be so stupid. There values and morals aren't taught. They just pick them up from USA.

[JeremyBowskill]

My conversation would go more like this:

Other group, "we requested this song first!"

Me, "that's funny cos I didn't request any F'in song!"

Other group, "mind if we sing it then?"

Me, "please go ahead, I would rather trap my nuts in a revolving door than do Karaoke!"

Guess i'm just not Asian enough, Karaoke to me spells public humiliation and why people would wanna pay for it is way beyond me............

Karaoke is fantastic fun, for those who can sing and for those wannabees. You don't have to be Asian, only people who enjoy singing or want to try. Revolving door---try to find one.

This is a sad situation, I would suggest drink involved together with one or two bad words--hey presto--Thais cannot take it.

Different strokes for different folks, I guess...... glad you enjoy it though, personally I don't know what's worse, doing it or suffering others doing it........

Doesn't Swampy Airport have revolving doors?

My guess is you cannot sing, or fail miserably, fail to appreciate most people that enjoy singing, please note most of the worlds top singers get their first name to fame at Karaoke. Is it the name Karaoke that you dislike, or anyone singing, as many a song has lifted the hearts in wartime/elderly/infirm/kids/..... I would love to hear more people sing than those who want to cause problems in this world.

Sadly here is a case than went wrong, it happened to be at a Karaoke. Lighten up, go to one and sing " we are the world "

Your guess would be wrong, I actually can sing unlike 95%+ of the people I hear doing Karaoke. Maybe that's why I don't like it..........

[robertthebruce]

For most westerners Karaoke is NAFF to say the least very 80's.....

Still sad about someone loosing there life....R.I.P.

[Deacon Bell]

One can never underestimate just how delicate an ego the Thai can possess.

Another poor little thing didn't get his way and couldn't deal with it.

[ratcatcher]

My conversation would go more like this:

Other group, "we requested this song first!"

Me, "that's funny cos I didn't request any F'in song!"

Other group, "mind if we sing it then?"

Me, "please go ahead, I would rather trap my nuts in a revolving door than do Karaoke!"

Guess i'm just not Asian enough, Karaoke to me spells public humiliation and why people would wanna pay for it is way beyond me............

Karaoke is fantastic fun, for those who can sing and for those wannabees. You don't have to be Asian, only people who enjoy singing or want to try. Revolving door---try to find one.

This is a sad situation, I would suggest drink involved together with one or two bad words--hey presto--Thais cannot take it.

Different strokes for different folks, I guess...... glad you enjoy it though, personally I don't know what's worse, doing it or suffering others doing it........

Doesn't Swampy Airport have revolving doors?

Ha Ha I was joking for you to find a revolving door (for your quote. " nuts ")

Perhaps he'd prefer Tchaikovsky's version of The Nutcracker?

[moojar]

Karaoke bars,

Often full of hookers and gangsters, you gotta watch out when you go there.

Yeah, you might get a happy ending you cannot refuse!

[timmyp]

The way some people sing at karaoke, sometimes I wish I had a gun...

[elzach]

The problem here is not the dispute, it's a KTV and there are girls and booze, so Thai (Asian) men get easily "confused". The problem is that he resorted to his gun.

What are the rules for gun ownership here anyway? I think if the authorities imposed a minimum requirement of IQ of 80 and D..k size of 4 inches (since inferiority complex leads to overcompensation), then 80% of potential Thai gun owners would not qualify and therefore we wouldn't have many of these senseless killings.

Edited August 29, 2014 by elzach

[ginjag]

Karaoke is fantastic fun, for those who can sing and for those wannabees. You don't have to be Asian, only people who enjoy singing or want to try. Revolving door---try to find one.

This is a sad situation, I would suggest drink involved together with one or two bad words--hey presto--Thais cannot take it.

Different strokes for different folks, I guess...... glad you enjoy it though, personally I don't know what's worse, doing it or suffering others doing it........

Doesn't Swampy Airport have revolving doors?

My guess is you cannot sing, or fail miserably, fail to appreciate most people that enjoy singing, please note most of the worlds top singers get their first name to fame at Karaoke. Is it the name Karaoke that you dislike, or anyone singing, as many a song has lifted the hearts in wartime/elderly/infirm/kids/..... I would love to hear more people sing than those who want to cause problems in this world.

Sadly here is a case than went wrong, it happened to be at a Karaoke. Lighten up, go to one and sing " we are the world "

Your guess would be wrong, I actually can sing unlike 95%+ of the people I hear doing Karaoke. Maybe that's why I don't like it..........

Guess you didn't like Les Dawson on the piano ?? (the Les Dawson TV show-UK)

[tubby johnson]

Frank Sinatra's "My Way" is banned from Philippine karaoke bars, because it is a very difficult song to master and sing each note correctly. Philippines is the Land of Guns and they pride themselves on their singing skills. A combustible mix, therefore. When they get heckled by other drunken Philippinos whilst singing My Way, tempers flare and guns are pulled. Hence the ban.

[media]

Statue of limitations 10yrs for Murder in Thailand. even though they know he did it, if he moves away and stays under the radar for 10yrs they cant try him for the murder.

[Rimmer]

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[Deacon Bell]

Actual penis size: 2-3 inches.

Invisible penis size: Filling all the space around them.

Step on it and they react as such.