PHUKET NEWS TV: Russian Comments 'Revolting'

[Lite Beer]

PHUKET NEWS TV: Russian Comments 'Revolting'

A Phuket News story posted on Facebook about falling Russian tourist numbers unleashed a tirade of nasty comments. Why?

-- Phuket News 2014-09-05

[phuketandsee]

Why? Because the vast majority of people who come into contact with Russians don't like them. And with very good reason

[Babooshka]

For the same reason why Russians themselves tend to find places where their presence in minimal. If they don't like each other, how could they expect other people like them? Sad thing indeed

[ldnguy]

Why? Because the vast majority of people who come into contact with Russians don't like them. And with very good reason

All the Russians that I've met have been decent people. Went to Moscow a while back and most people there were very friendly. I think the problem is that the people making the vile comments hang out in dodgy areas of Thailand and only meet other dodgy people there. As they aren't very widely traveled (they sit in same bar every day), they assume all people are like the ones they meet in their dodgy bar.

If they saw someone of their own nationality behaving badly they just say he was a bad guy. But if they see a Russian behaving badly it's suddenly applies to all Russians. They just don't get it. Lack of education plays a part as well.

Many are also upset that they no longer rule the roost. They used to like the old days when people maybe looked up to them, but now others have knocked them off their perch. A little sad really.

[TacoHell]

I saw the facebook posting and and it made me sad to be a human being.

If you own a business here, especially a higher end business, everyone will agree that Russian tourism has been a godsend.

The "Russians are rude, arrogant, etc" comments are from people who run low-end accommodations, restaurants, and shops, or the tourists who frequent them. (Click their profile and see where they work) What do you expect? Especially with the language barrier.

People hate on the Russians (especially the barstool sexpat singlet crowd) because :

1.the Russians generally have a normal family, more money than them, and keep to themselves. Nobody likes people who talk to much.

2. The haters hang around low end places and as such run into "rude Russians at 7/11" (what do you expect)

3. The Russians don't need to pay for sex and the Russian ladies are fantastic.

So, to the Russians coming here, please ignore the comments of the ignorant.

[2fishin2]

I need to go to the fb page and add a wahoo real quick....ive thought about it long enough. Can you believe phuket news actually did that? Yes we can

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[TacoHell]

Why? Because the vast majority of people who come into contact with Russians don't like them. And with very good reason

What's the "very good reason" ? Please explain

[ldnguy]

Why? Because the vast majority of people who come into contact with Russians don't like them. And with very good reason

What's the "very good reason" ? Please explain

The "very good reason" is that the Russians are better than them in every way and so they hate them out of petty jealousy. These people are from the West, How dare people from the East turn up with better looks and more money. It's just not right that others have more money than them. It felt great having a little bit more money that the poor Thais they hang around, but now the wealthy Russians have spoilt everything. The Russians have shown them to be the cheapskates that they really are. It is so funny seeing them get their comeuppance.

[TacoHell]

Why? Because the vast majority of people who come into contact with Russians don't like them. And with very good reason

What's the "very good reason" ? Please explain

The "very good reason" is that the Russians are better than them in every way and so they hate them out of petty jealousy. These people are from the West, How dare people from the East turn up with better looks and more money. It's just not right that others have more money than them. It felt great having a little bit more money that the poor Thais they hang around, but now the wealthy Russians have spoilt everything. The Russians have shown them to be the cheapskates that they really are. It is so funny seeing them get their comeuppance.

Amazing and very well put.

[2fishin2]

Why? Because the vast majority of people who come into contact with Russians don't like them. And with very good reason

What's the "very good reason" ? Please explain

The "very good reason" is that the Russians are better than them in every way and so they hate them out of petty jealousy. These people are from the West, How dare people from the East turn up with better looks and more money. It's just not right that others have more money than them. It felt great having a little bit more money that the poor Thais they hang around, but now the wealthy Russians have spoilt everything. The Russians have shown them to be the cheapskates that they really are. It is so funny seeing them get their comeuppance.

Amazing and very well put.

You guys need to get a room together in a condo full of Russians. After a couple of weeks youll be singing a new tune

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[TacoHell]

You guys need to get a room together in a condo full of Russians. After a couple of weeks youll be singing a new tune

So what will happen? I await your educated reply kind sir.

2fishin2

[manarak]

Interesting!

does Phuket TV have special advertising prices for broadcasts aired on TV ThaiVisa ?

[jaffacakes1]

All generalisations are false. Including this one.

[ldnguy]

You guys need to get a room together in a condo full of Russians. After a couple of weeks youll be singing a new tune

So what will happen? I await your educated reply kind sir.

2fishin2

Well I'm happy to share a room with some Russian women! Bring it on.

[ldnguy]

You guys need to get a room together in a condo full of Russians. After a couple of weeks youll be singing a new tune

So what will happen? I await your educated reply kind sir.

2fishin2

A condo full of Russian women? I'm looking forward to it already.

[bendywire]

Interesting piece but I couldn't give a shiny shoe where you come from. If you're polite then I return in kind. I think the problem here isn't the Russian people but people's perseptions are based on the country's politics. Everyone is welcome, just be polite and most people you meet will be polite back.

[TacoHell]

all I can say, is look at the facebook posts, click on the profiles of those people,see where they work, remember those faces, and never do business with them

[tingtongfarang]

Actually i always wondered why the russians were so disliked by other eastern european folks even to the point they fear being mistaken for their russian cousins.

[Lattrendi]

Look at the fascist putin's rating, he is 85% supported by russians. As I were born in the former soviet union, I lived among them all my life. So believe me they are rude and ignorant not because they "sound" rude or can not behave. It is because they are just an arrogant bunch... Even at the soviet times living among people of other nationalities they treated others like second sort. I understand their language and what I can hear are constant complains about Thais and about foreigners. How many times I saw them bullying gays or senior Thais. What they always like to say is that the only problem in Thailand are Thais and foreigners. So dont be surprised if one day putin will come to defend his russian majority here. Get rid of them as fast as you can. The only business will suffer in Phuket and Pattaya will be baht busses and 7/11. Money for their tours never reach Thailand anyway.

[TacoHell]

Look at the fascist putin's rating, he is 85% supported by russians. As I were born in the former soviet union, I lived among them all my life. So believe me they are rude and ignorant not because they "sound" rude or can not behave. It is because they are just an arrogant bunch... Even at the soviet times living among people of other nationalities they treated others like second sort. I understand their language and what I can hear are constant complains about Thais and about foreigners. How many times I saw them bullying gays or senior Thais. What they always like to say is that the only problem in Thailand are Thais and foreigners. So dont be surprised if one day putin will come to defend his russian majority here. Get rid of them as fast as you can. The only business will suffer in Phuket and Pattaya will be baht busses and 7/11. Money for their tours never reach Thailand anyway.

Hi, your post history http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/user/171451-lattrendi/

Thank you for pointing out you are a Racist.

[balo]

Please don't describe them as wealthy russians , most of them are on low salaries back in Russia , but for the first time they can afford to travel out of their cold country . They pay only $300 to get here from siberia . And they live on a budget , not everyone , but maybe 80% . But they come as a family and they are happy together so nothing wrong with that . Maybe they dont like other foreigners and thats fine too.

[TacoHell]

Please don't describe them as wealthy russians , most of them are on low salaries back in Russia , but for the first time they can afford to travel out of their cold country . They pay only $300 to get here from siberia . And they live on a budget , not everyone , but maybe 80% . But they come as a family and they are happy together so nothing wrong with that . Maybe they dont like other foreigners and thats fine too.

Hi balo, please provide facts about (most of them) to back that up. We patiently await your reply.

[Jingthing]

Look at the fascist putin's rating, he is 85% supported by russians. As I were born in the former soviet union, I lived among them all my life. So believe me they are rude and ignorant not because they "sound" rude or can not behave. It is because they are just an arrogant bunch... Even at the soviet times living among people of other nationalities they treated others like second sort. I understand their language and what I can hear are constant complains about Thais and about foreigners. How many times I saw them bullying gays or senior Thais. What they always like to say is that the only problem in Thailand are Thais and foreigners. So dont be surprised if one day putin will come to defend his russian majority here. Get rid of them as fast as you can. The only business will suffer in Phuket and Pattaya will be baht busses and 7/11. Money for their tours never reach Thailand anyway.

Hi, your post history http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/user/171451-lattrendi/

Thank you for pointing out you are a Racist.

I don't think dislike of Russian tourists is really racism.

He's right that the vast majority of Russians do support the dictator Putin (though the fact that he completely controls their press could be a factor in that).

Also the vast majority of Russians according to polls do support Putin's disgusting scapegoating campaign against gay people.

In Pattaya, I have indeed noticed Russians being extremely homophobic towards transgender and gay people, but happily I have not witnessed a violent incident related to that.

Of course back in Russia, violence against gays is at high levels. Perhaps there is better behavior while abroad? In any case, it does offend to see this kind of hatred and intolerance of sexual minorities exported in any way from Russia to Thailand.

My main annoyance with Russian tourists (I really don't care if they smile or not, that's their business) is a tendency for lack of consideration for the SPACE of others.

Richer or not, some are richer, some are poorer, but yes many are very good looking ... and often dress in a bizarre fashion, so that is certainly free entertainment for people watchers.

The OP article is hard to take seriously. Didn't the reporter say there is a business/money connection between the English and Russian language "press" outfits?

Edited September 5, 2014 by Jingthing

[TacoHell]

Look at the fascist putin's rating, he is 85% supported by russians. As I were born in the former soviet union, I lived among them all my life. So believe me they are rude and ignorant not because they "sound" rude or can not behave. It is because they are just an arrogant bunch... Even at the soviet times living among people of other nationalities they treated others like second sort. I understand their language and what I can hear are constant complains about Thais and about foreigners. How many times I saw them bullying gays or senior Thais. What they always like to say is that the only problem in Thailand are Thais and foreigners. So dont be surprised if one day putin will come to defend his russian majority here. Get rid of them as fast as you can. The only business will suffer in Phuket and Pattaya will be baht busses and 7/11. Money for their tours never reach Thailand anyway.

Hi, your post history http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/user/171451-lattrendi/

Thank you for pointing out you are a Racist.

I don't think dislike of Russian tourists is really racism.

He's the right the vast majority of Russians do support the dictator Putin (though the fact that he completely controls their press could be a factor in that).

Also the vast majority of Russians according to polls do support Putin's disgusting scapegoating campaign against gay people.

In Pattaya, I have indeed noticed Russians being extremely homophobic towards transgender and gay people, but happily to have to witness a violent incident.

Of course back in Russia, violence against gays is at high levels. Perhaps there is better behavior while abroad?

My main annoyance with Russian tourists (I really don't care if they smile or not, that's their business) is a tendency for lack of consideration for the SPACE of others.

Richer or not, some are richer, some are poorer, but yes many are very good looking ... and often dress in a bizarre fashion, so that is certainly free entertainment for people watchers.

WOW, you turned a normal discussion to being about gay people. Says much about you.

[Jingthing]

Look at the fascist putin's rating, he is 85% supported by russians. As I were born in the former soviet union, I lived among them all my life. So believe me they are rude and ignorant not because they "sound" rude or can not behave. It is because they are just an arrogant bunch... Even at the soviet times living among people of other nationalities they treated others like second sort. I understand their language and what I can hear are constant complains about Thais and about foreigners. How many times I saw them bullying gays or senior Thais. What they always like to say is that the only problem in Thailand are Thais and foreigners. So dont be surprised if one day putin will come to defend his russian majority here. Get rid of them as fast as you can. The only business will suffer in Phuket and Pattaya will be baht busses and 7/11. Money for their tours never reach Thailand anyway.

Hi, your post history http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/user/171451-lattrendi/

Thank you for pointing out you are a Racist.

I don't think dislike of Russian tourists is really racism.

He's the right the vast majority of Russians do support the dictator Putin (though the fact that he completely controls their press could be a factor in that).

Also the vast majority of Russians according to polls do support Putin's disgusting scapegoating campaign against gay people.

In Pattaya, I have indeed noticed Russians being extremely homophobic towards transgender and gay people, but happily to have to witness a violent incident.

Of course back in Russia, violence against gays is at high levels. Perhaps there is better behavior while abroad?

My main annoyance with Russian tourists (I really don't care if they smile or not, that's their business) is a tendency for lack of consideration for the SPACE of others.

Richer or not, some are richer, some are poorer, but yes many are very good looking ... and often dress in a bizarre fashion, so that is certainly free entertainment for people watchers.

WOW, you turned a normal discussion to being about gay people. Says much about you.

Scapegoating of gay people is a major factor in Putin politics. I encounter Russians every day. In fact, the majority of people I encounter every day are indeed Russians. So I merely pointed out my biggest issues with these tourists -- lack of respect for space and homophobia but happily not seemingly usually of a VIOLENT nature (so that's good). Totally and normally ON TOPIC.

As far as the not smiling thing ... I understand why people perceive that. I see Russians smiling with each other. They don't smile at strangers. In Russian culture, that means you are a MORON. I can see their point on that.

If we were talking about other nationalities, I would have some criticisms as well. But the topic here, unless I read it wrong, is Russians.

Edited September 5, 2014 by Jingthing

[Loptr]

So TacoHell creates a new account just to take people to task for negative comments on some FB page... Even to the point of finding out who these people are and boycotting their business... Who gives a ratz ass about anything said on social media? Here's a hint, if you do, you need a life...

[balo]

Please don't describe them as wealthy russians , most of them are on low salaries back in Russia , but for the first time they can afford to travel out of their cold country . They pay only $300 to get here from siberia . And they live on a budget , not everyone , but maybe 80% . But they come as a family and they are happy together so nothing wrong with that . Maybe they dont like other foreigners and thats fine too.

Hi balo, please provide facts about (most of them) to back that up. We patiently await your reply.

I know Russians here , I live with them , they are my neighbours.

I know a lady that told me about the tour operators in Siberia , and what they pay for flights and hotel and the average salary over there.

So what is your point ?

I am not against the Russians here on vacation , if you want to find out about the average salary in siberia I suggest you to use google. Yes there is a difference between a Russian living and working in Moscow compared with other parrts in eastern parts of Russia. But the majority of russians in Thailand comes from the poorer part of russia .

You come in here as a new member and try to do what ? Are you on a mission or something ?

[TacoHell]

Please don't describe them as wealthy russians , most of them are on low salaries back in Russia , but for the first time they can afford to travel out of their cold country . They pay only $300 to get here from siberia . And they live on a budget , not everyone , but maybe 80% . But they come as a family and they are happy together so nothing wrong with that . Maybe they dont like other foreigners and thats fine too.

Hi balo, please provide facts about (most of them) to back that up. We patiently await your reply.

I know Russians here , I live with them , they are my neighbours.

I know a lady that told me about the tour operators in Siberia , and what they pay for flights and hotel and the average salary over there.

So what is your point ?

I am not against the Russians here on vacation , if you want to find out about the average salary in siberia I suggest you to use google. Yes there is a difference between a Russian living and working in Moscow compared with other parrts in eastern parts of Russia. But the majority of russians in Thailand comes from the poorer part of russia .

You come in here as a new member and try to do what ? Are you on a mission or something ?

yes, you know people. LOL

[Jingthing]

In my opinion, when one demographic becomes the majority/dominant demographic in a tourist destination, that can produce noticeable changes, potentially pleasant or unpleasant. The demographic that is dominant has a specific culture so the nature of those changes is culture dependent. For example, if Phuket (or Pattaya) was overrun next year with Mexicans (a man can dream!) instead of Russians you would notice some big changes. They would be different than the changes from large masses of Russians. Some you might like, some you might not.

Edited September 5, 2014 by Jingthing

[TacoHell]

In my opinion, when one demographic becomes the majority/dominant demographic in a tourist destination, that can produce noticeable changes, potentially pleasant or unpleasant. The demographic that is dominant has a specific culture so the nature of those changes is culture dependent. For example, if Phuket (or Pattaya) was overrun next year with Mexicans (a man can dream!) instead of Russians you would notice some big changes. They would be different than the changes from large masses of Russians. Some you might like, some you might not.

I would embrace some amazing tacos. But, for some reason people hate the Russians. Why?