Child with my wife - Dual nationality.?

[Richard W]

ubonjoe, that should change in the next couple of years with an amendment to the 2014 immigration act. For Mothers the illegitimate child rule goes back to 1983 and only 2006 for Fathers

I don't see how. The 2014 act gives a statutory right to registration where previously registration was at discretion. It says nothing about registering births and does not change who is British at birth.

The first kid I got this from embassy. But can't get a copy online from GRO.

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However the second kid got this from GRO online.

Which is different but the same I think.

No, the first is a certificate of registration as a British citizen, making the child a British citizen. The second just records the birth of a British citizen.

What's the difference?

In the first case, the child is not British when born. No registration as British, no passport. (Except that there can be other routes to being British, such as legitimation.) In the second case, no consular birth registration, no consular birth certificate. However, the child, being a British citizen, is entitled to hope to receive a British passport on application. (Citizenship may be a right - the SSHD may be working on this - but a passport is a privilege.)

Incidentally, I am now unclear on whether the marriage certificate will be required for Sena Dave's son. I don't remember submitting a marriage certificate for my daughter's first passport, so she may have got her passport on the basis of her mother's immigration status (settled) as recorded by the Home Office rather than because she was my legitimate daughter. Transpose timings a few years later, and she would have depended on being my daughter for a British passport.

[Sena Dave]

Sena Dave, on 17 Sept 2014 - 09:30, said:

ubonjoe, that should change in the next couple of years with an amendment to the 2014 immigration act. For Mothers the illegitimate child rule goes back to 1983 and only 2006 for Fathers

I don't see how. The 2014 act gives a statutory right to registration where previously registration was at discretion. It says nothing about registering births and does not change who is British at birth.

it's an Amendment to the act its going through the house at the moment, The site that paz directed me to last week "British By descent' has a big article about it .

[Richard W]

Sena Dave, on 17 Sept 2014 - 09:30, said:

ubonjoe, that should change in the next couple of years with an amendment to the 2014 immigration act. For Mothers the illegitimate child rule goes back to 1983 and only 2006 for Fathers

I don't see how. The 2014 act gives a statutory right to registration where previously registration was at discretion. It says nothing about registering births and does not change who is British at birth.

it's an Amendment to the act its going through the house at the moment, The site that paz directed me to last week "British By descent' has a big article about it .

You're talking about Section 65 of the Immigration Act 2014, which section, oddly, has yet to come into force. This affects registration as a British citizen, not the registration of the overseas birth of a British citizen.

I get the horrifying impression from Paz's reference that there have been many cases where parents were trying to obtain registration as British citizens but consular officials thought the parents were trying to register a birth.

[Sena Dave]

"I get the horrifying impression from Paz's reference that there have been many cases where parents were trying to obtain registration as British citizens but consular officials thought the parents were trying to register a birth. "

I do too. Registering at the Consulate , though worth doing fi you have time , is pretty meaningless.The Birth registry doc tells you so , not used for British citizen ship or passport applications

[Richard W]

I do too. Registering at the Consulate , though worth doing fi you have time , is pretty meaningless.The Birth registry doc tells you so , not used for British citizen ship or passport applications

I believe the consular birth certificates are perfectly valid as birth certificates; it's just that on their own they no more prove that one is British than does a UK birth certificate for a birth after 1983.