What gets me is that pathetic and inconsequential little humans think they can levy a tax and stop Mother nature from warming up as she has done cyclically since her beginning and that millions of stupid people blindly think this is the way to go

Your obviously concerned about the environment, nothing wrong with that. The way forward is technology and planning, not legislation.

Everyone is in favor of a cleaner environment. But it won't happen until the economics favor it.

Just a question, what is the difference between climate change and global warming. Your post implies they are different things.

The economics will never favour it, there will always be an excuse.

For heavens sake, you only have to look at how corporations pollute like buggery if it increases the bottom line and there are not sufficient controls.

That's why we have legislation.

The same applies to things like renewable energy: Unless you provide financial incentives (which could come from corporate taxes), your only other option is to force companies to spend money on renewables rather than shoving all their cash in their bank accounts.

If you don't do either, they will ignore the issue.

It is profits that are being placed at the expense of the environment, not economics.

The real question is whether or not this will become enough of an issue globally for people to elect politicians who might actually do something about it.

That, of course, is where it all goes t*ts up.

There will come a time when necessity will mother the right inventions. Building better gadgets has taken us to extraordinary heights of lifestyle and standard of living. It is necessary to protect the environment, it is just not critical yet. It will get done when the alternative is too expensive.

Alternate energy sources will become mainstream because someone will figure out how to get rich on it. And also because fossil fuels will more become more expensive to access.

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Politics does rightly play an important part, for example the European Commission has of yesterday backed the levels of state intervention in UK for two new European Pressurised Reactors. These will be the first to be built for nearly 20 years. The EC has considered the level of intervention, and explained it doesn't think this goes against other forms of energy generation;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-29536793

It is an important ruling in Europe and shows how the finances stack-up.

@ AnotherOneAmerican;

You suggest we cannot effect climate. Are you living an American Dream? Have you forgotten the acid rain impacting on Scandinavian countries from UK coal fired power stations. The issue of international pollutants is well documented, like ozone, like excessive nitrate deposition. In Asian countries as you should well know, is the problem of burning crops / forest clearance and the particulate matter affecting many countries. So yes, humans do affect climate. You should look up the term photochemical smog.

Dealing with international pollutants is one of the real benefits for countries to join up, like Europe has done, but could something for ASEAN countries in the future.

@ AnotherOneAmerican;

You suggest we cannot effect climate. Are you living an American Dream? Have you forgotten the acid rain impacting on Scandinavian countries from UK coal fired power stations. The issue of international pollutants is well documented, like ozone, like excessive nitrate deposition. In Asian countries as you should well know, is the problem of burning crops / forest clearance and the particulate matter affecting many countries. So yes, humans do affect climate. You should look up the term photochemical smog.

Dealing with international pollutants is one of the real benefits for countries to join up, like Europe has done, but could something for ASEAN countries in the future.

All trivial, compared to the emissions from one active volcano.

@ AnotherOneAmerican;

You suggest we cannot effect climate. Are you living an American Dream? Have you forgotten the acid rain impacting on Scandinavian countries from UK coal fired power stations. The issue of international pollutants is well documented, like ozone, like excessive nitrate deposition. In Asian countries as you should well know, is the problem of burning crops / forest clearance and the particulate matter affecting many countries. So yes, humans do affect climate. You should look up the term photochemical smog.

Dealing with international pollutants is one of the real benefits for countries to join up, like Europe has done, but could something for ASEAN countries in the future.

All trivial, compared to the emissions from one active volcano.

Illogical argument, and unsubstantiated and without substance.