Southern police chief: Enough evidence in British tourists' murder case to make arrest now

[englishoak]

Screw Koh Toa. If it is like it sounds the perps will do little time in great comfort and return triumphantly. The place was on my list of places to go but I will never go there nor the nearby Island as it is most likely same same.

I make it a point to stay away from most of the islands and the South to be honest, lets have a look at what we have shall we. Overpriced food and pretty much everything else is too. Drunken naive farang in huge numbers, beach scams in abundance, tuktuk mafias, highly powerful criminal families controlling this and that, crazed addicts to the slave yaba running around stealing, mugging and raping, constant terrorism around Yala/Hatyai area, sorry I think I shall stay away from such places, god knows why

Call me crazy, I like peace and quiet, to see actual Thailand or what is left f it, not some Westernized jumped up resort on meth.

In a nutshell +1

[Thai at Heart]

Relax everyone. They don't make arrests until all the DNA, etc are examined. In the meantime, the suspects are being held by the police. So many of you are really uneducated people on this board. The police are doing well. They want the case to be solid. In fact, they probably want confessions from the guys who did this. The confessions are normally easy to get in these cases in Thailand. You think torture forget that.

All they need to do is to explain DNA and other forensic evidence. Most people dont even know about DNA and what it can do and certainly many Thais isolated on a little island working at labor type of jobs probably dont scan the internet for the latest and greatest. They probably dont even know many cameras are around them.

Once the guilty realize they have no chance they confess for a promise of a less sentence maybe.

This suspect was hinted at days ago. Good they got one.

[Ulic]

Well done to the police under withering criticism, second guessing and under the microscope of TV readers

and the media. I expect the village head man to be arrested for being complicit in the perpetrators escape.

The start of the end of this horrible crime.

[MJP]

^^

[Fat Haggis]

There's plenty of Farangs in Thailand guilty of what people would class as Paedophillia when they bar fine girls as young as 17 throught the country, however, as I've said earlier, his past should have no bearing on the current murder inquiry, and IF this guy is genuine and holds the key to seeing the real perps arrested and charged with murder, based on his accounts, should the whole case just be thrown out because he has a record for child pornography?

I'm also willing to bet that a lot of the older TVF members would have had pictures of their kids splashing about in the bath without a sigle thought of it being wrong, but today it's enough to get you arrested and tagged and registered as a sex offender..

The focus should be on catching the ones who murdered this young couple, and seeing justice done.

Technically ephebophilia

I had to look that up.. never heard of it before, thanks for the clarification..

[englishoak]

[LanceGringo]

If this guy they've caught is so innocent, then why was he running by the crime scene, in just shorts/underwear at that time in the morning? - very suspicious I'd say. Also, perhaps he was only wearing shorts because the rest of his clothes were covered in the blood of the victims, and he had to get rid of them?

[Nemesis7]

Good job. Keep it up. It's time to establish the goodwill.

[harp73]

If this guy they've caught is so innocent, then why was he running by the crime scene, in just shorts/underwear at that time in the morning? - very suspicious I'd say. Also, perhaps he was only wearing shorts because the rest of his clothes were covered in the blood of the victims, and he had to get rid of them?

who was running by the crime scene? - the son? or the brother??? - who in your thoughts?

[BangkokHank]

Looks like a few of us may eat humble pie (like me)

looks like the police may have found the correct murderers / not stitched anybody up etc

For that i apologise for doubting them and hope this is the future now

They only finally, reluctantly (might) have found the real murderers - precisely because people like us pressured them by suggesting they would frame somebody for the murders in order to spare a well-connected local. So no need for you to apologize.

[LanceGringo]

If this guy they've caught is so innocent, then why was he running by the crime scene, in just shorts/underwear at that time in the morning? - very suspicious I'd say. Also, perhaps he was only wearing shorts because the rest of his clothes were covered in the blood of the victims, and he had to get rid of them?

who was running by the crime scene? - the son? or the brother??? - who in your thoughts?

The jackass that was at the crime scene and in Sean McAnna's photo he posted on Facebook.

[mango66]

Punish the guilty people, not the islanders. The island has over 2000 people population, Why should they suffer for 2 evil murderers. Punish the murderers not the island.

its not the 2 people,

there are 3 families they say , all their clan which controls the complete Iland,

you have to rott them out !! not only their son is the crime;

Its the complete clan which is somehow involved ;

please read trough the dif.posts;

[harp73]

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/webmobile/national/Police-free-bar-owners-and-look-for-ex-village-hea-30243997.html

[MJP]

Punish the guilty people, not the islanders. The island has over 2000 people population, Why should they suffer for 2 evil murderers. Punish the murderers not the island.

its not the 2 people,

there are 3 families they say , all their clan which controls the complete Iland,

you have to rott them out !! not only their son is the crime;

Its the complete clan which is somehow involved ;

please read trough the dif.posts;

What are you on about, Mango?

How many did this crime? I think it's more than two people.

[LanceGringo]

If this guy they've caught is so innocent, then why was he running by the crime scene, in just shorts/underwear at that time in the morning? - very suspicious I'd say. Also, perhaps he was only wearing shorts because the rest of his clothes were covered in the blood of the victims, and he had to get rid of them?

who was running by the crime scene? - the son? or the brother??? - who in your thoughts?

The jackass that was at the crime scene and in Sean McAnna's photo he posted on Facebook.

ok I get the crime scene / sean mcanna photo's - when was he running? - are you talking about the 4am ish ctv?

Yes, that CCTV footage

[harp73]

So you think the guy on the cctv is Montriwat Toovichien?

[LanceGringo]

So you think the guy on the cctv is Montriwat Toovichien?

He's already been identified as the guy in the CCTV footage by police, hasn't he? - also, it does seem a bit odd that he was practically first on the scene after the murders when the police were there (the pic of that is floating about online in places)

This guy is guilty as hell, I think he's certainly involved in one way or another.

[MJP]

So you think the guy on the cctv is Montriwat Toovichien?

He's already been identified as the guy in the CCTV footage by police, hasn't he? - also, it does seem a bit odd that he was practically first on the scene after the murders when the police were there (the pic of that is floating about online in places)

This guy is guilty as hell, I think he's certainly involved in one way or another.

My fear is the court case and physical evidence having been made unreliable . . . on purpose.

[harp73]

So you think the guy on the cctv is Montriwat Toovichien?

He's already been identified as the guy in the CCTV footage by police, hasn't he? - also, it does seem a bit odd that he was practically first on the scene after the murders when the police were there (the pic of that is floating about online in places)

This guy is guilty as hell, I think he's certainly involved in one way or another.

Sorry but my in my opinion the guy seen running looks a lot younger than 45 [ in every other picture you can see its him .. without a doubt - he may however have been the shirt number 9 guy??? - much earlier in the evening.

[LanceGringo]

So you think the guy on the cctv is Montriwat Toovichien?

He's already been identified as the guy in the CCTV footage by police, hasn't he? - also, it does seem a bit odd that he was practically first on the scene after the murders when the police were there (the pic of that is floating about online in places)

This guy is guilty as hell, I think he's certainly involved in one way or another.

My fear is the court case and physical evidence having been made unreliable . . . on purpose.

I think the odds are stacked against this guy now though, they've got too much on him - DNA, witnesses, then things they claim they have also, finger prints, locals information etc

[LanceGringo]

So you think the guy on the cctv is Montriwat Toovichien?

He's already been identified as the guy in the CCTV footage by police, hasn't he? - also, it does seem a bit odd that he was practically first on the scene after the murders when the police were there (the pic of that is floating about online in places)

This guy is guilty as hell, I think he's certainly involved in one way or another.

Sorry but my in my opinion the guy seen running looks a lot younger than 45 [ in every other picture you can see its him .. without a doubt - he may however have been the shirt number 9 guy??? - much earlier in the evening.

How can you tell from a blurry CCTV image/video how old someone is!?

He's definitely NOT the guy that was wearing the number 9 shirt

[MJP]

It would be good to have a locked thread maintained by a mod updating confirmed facts as they come in.

I know confirmed facts is a bit of a reach. But I'm getting very confused.

[ChiangraiTony]

Don't believe everything you read. Things being reported keep changing very quickly. There is a LOT of false information that is being released by the media. Within the next week just look at how much information that gets reported is inaccurate.

[LanceGringo]

Don't believe everything you read. Things being reported keep changing very quickly. There is a LOT of false information that is being released by the media. Within the next week just look at how much information that gets reported is inaccurate.

Yes, at the start of the investigations maybe, but we're 9-10 days into this case now, the police have recovered a lot of evidence, I don't see there being too many twists and turns left in this one now.

[MJP]

Don't believe everything you read. Things being reported keep changing very quickly. There is a LOT of false information that is being released by the media. Within the next week just look at how much information that gets reported is inaccurate.

Yes, at the start of the investigations maybe, but we're 9-10 days into this case now, the police have recovered a lot of evidence, I don't see there being too many twists and turns left in this one now.

The accused disappear next.

[ChiangraiTony]

Sources now speculate that the brother of the headsman was tested for DNA and results show negative (no match). The other person (son of headsman) say that he's somewhere in BKK.

If you read the numerous TV posts, so many have condemned this guy. I now understand that the reporting in Thailand is terrible and much to much premature. However, knowing that it's probably best just to reserve judgement until all the dust has settled and all the cards have been shown.

There is just so much speculation and being to quick with conclusions only can get you into trouble. There is too many who speak with Forked-Tongue.

[ChiangraiTony]

Don't believe everything you read. Things being reported keep changing very quickly. There is a LOT of false information that is being released by the media. Within the next week just look at how much information that gets reported is inaccurate.

Yes, at the start of the investigations maybe, but we're 9-10 days into this case now, the police have recovered a lot of evidence, I don't see there being too many twists and turns left in this one now.

Just hold your tongue for a bit longer. Wait until tomorrow.

[LanceGringo]

Sources now speculate that the brother of the headsman was tested for DNA and results show negative (no match). The other person (son of headsman) say that he's somewhere in BKK.

If you read the numerous TV posts, so many have condemned this guy. I now understand that the reporting in Thailand is terrible and much to much premature. However, knowing that it's probably best just to reserve judgement until all the dust has settled and all the cards have been shown.

There is just so much speculation and being to quick with conclusions only can get you into trouble. There is too many who speak with Forked-Tongue.

I wouldn't have thought the DNA results will be available as of yet? at least 24 hours, no?

If this guy was so innocent, he would not have declined the DNA test in the first place, long before he was identified on Sean McAnna's Facebook page.

[traviss]

Punish the guilty people, not the islanders. The island has over 2000 people population, Why should they suffer for 2 evil murderers. Punish the murderers not the island.

No...remove the income, sadly the true Thais will lose their income also...but they are preyed upon by the WomanGirlyMafia that hide behind the corrupt Police there...

Destroy the tourist trade and the gay girl wannabe mafia will die also...

Som nam na...

Just for information:

Why do you say "WomanGirlyMafia"

I am not saying, you are wrong, I just do not understand. Can you please enlighten me?

Think about the Italian, Russian, Albanian, Triad, Yakuza, Clerkenwell, Mexican along with any other mafia, and I mean mafia in structure,discipline and code as mafia is a loosely defined concept. Thai mafia is labeled as such due to the common definition of the word. The loosely organized groups/families of Thais are more consistent with a gang. Hell, US street gangs and football hooligans are better organized, structured, disciplined and goal oriented than the so called Thai mafia.

The association falls just short of an insult to true mafia...Organized crime...

[MJP]

ChiangraiTony's quite right. Keep the powder dry for a day or so.