webfact Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Tourist arrivals may decline 15-20 per centBANGKOK: -- The number of international arrivals this year is expected to drop by 15-20 per cent, judging from slow bookings for high season as foreigners are avoiding a country still under martial law.Supawan Tanomkieatipume, vice president for marketing at Thai Hotels Association, said tourists in more than 40 countries were still worried about their security and safety under martial law.Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/Tourist-arrivals-may-decline-15-20-per-cent-30244539.html-- The Nation 2014-10-01 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post draftvader Posted October 1, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2014 Supawan Tanomkieatipume, vice president for marketing at Thai Hotels Association, said tourists in more than 40 countries were still worried about their security and safety under martial law... ...and because there are still murder/rapists on the loose with a penchant for foreigners....and because the police are blatantly complicit....and because your resort owner/bar owner might well have less than your best interests at heart....and because it would appear that Thailand's tourism front-men close ranks when it comes to protecting their own over the tourist who pays the bills. I love Thailand and love living here....I just don't live in one of the tourist areas.... 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tullynagardy Posted October 1, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2014 Tourists not big on military dictatorships, who`d have thought!? Interestingly hotel prices are going up rather than down despite demand going down and supply going up. A couple of years back 1000 baht got you a decent 3* hotel in Bangkok whilst 2000 baht got you a 4* or even 5* hotel such as the Rembrandt where we always stay at when in town. Looking at prices for our next trip the Rembrandt is 5000 baht a night!? Talk about making a bad situation worse! When we were last there is June there was about a dozen other customers. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JOC Posted October 1, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2014 Got nothing to do with martial law, but people are getting fed up with the fake smiles, double-pricing, dangerous roads, a policeforce corrupt beyond belief and a in general quite violent society!! Get your house in order, and people will come back! 36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eddy B Posted October 1, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2014 Supawan Tanomkieatipume, vice president for marketing at Thai Hotels Association, said tourists in more than 40 countries were still worried about their security and safety under martial law... ...and because there are still murder/rapists on the loose with a penchant for foreigners....and because the police are blatantly complicit....and because your resort owner/bar owner might well have less than your best interests at heart....and because it would appear that Thailand's tourism front-men close ranks when it comes to protecting their own over the tourist who pays the bills. I love Thailand and love living here....I just don't live in one of the tourist areas.... I totally agree. Thailands tourism farse of a ministry has no idea. Prices of hotels, taxi's, places to visit are going up and are no where cheap anymore. Either they start lowering costs for foreigners or they will just visit other countries. I feel Thailand has lost the appeal it once had as a place to go and relax. Now people are getting killed here and the lax ability of the police farce is in the spot-light of the world!! Thailand has entered its twilight years as a paradise destination! 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiSoLowSoNoSo Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Maybe time to look for a new TAT boss ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DLock Posted October 1, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2014 "...foreigners are avoiding a country still under martial law.". It's not martial law that's keeping people from coming here....but why do I get the feeling you know that already? Personally, I am more than happy that tourism is down, and assuming tourism is 10% of GDP, then 20% down is a 2% swing in GDP. Significant in the global sense, but dire for the many tourism related business that will suffer greatly. The Thai's need a wake up call to clean this place up on so many levels. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bazza5335 Posted October 1, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2014 Or maybe even 50%, with a bit of luck, and some more exciting police investigation work.... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salavan Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 that will proberly make the baht stronger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 they will turn to crime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauGR1 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 ... Just wait for the tourists reading about the wristband story, guess they'll be excited 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 “When tourists check-in to a hotel they will be given a wristband with a serial number that matches their I.D. and shows the contact details of the resort they are staying in so that if they’re out partying late and, for example, get drunk or lost, they can be easily assisted,” Kobkarn told Reuters.“The next step would be some sort of electronic tracking device but this has not yet been discussed in detail.”She added that a “buddy system”, pairing tourists with a local minder at tourist destinations, was also being discussed. Hmmm, I wonder if it may have something to do with this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tboy928 Posted October 1, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2014 Another ting , What they do about deny people from Africa come and spread the Ebola virus ??? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldnguy Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 “When tourists check-in to a hotel they will be given a wristband with a serial number that matches their I.D. and shows the contact details of the resort they are staying in so that if they’re out partying late and, for example, get drunk or lost, they can be easily assisted,” Kobkarn told Reuters. “The next step would be some sort of electronic tracking device but this has not yet been discussed in detail.” She added that a “buddy system”, pairing tourists with a local minder at tourist destinations, was also being discussed. Hmmm, I wonder if it may have something to do with this? I doubt it very much, because bookings have been down long before this was announced. But I don't suppose it will help. Who wants to go on holiday and be treated like a criminal? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldnguy Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Another ting , What they do about deny people from Africa come and spread the Ebola virus ??? There is no ebola in Thailand. Maybe you're confusing Thailand with USA. It has spread to USA so you'd better keep well away from there. In fact, you'd better stay in your room and not have contact with anyone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldnguy Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 that will proberly make the baht stronger There will be less demand for baht, so that should make it weaker not stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon43 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 5 or so years ago, I would get room bookings as early as June for my Phuket hotels, for the Christmas break. Customers booked early to ensure that they could get a room. Over the past few years, peak season advanced bookings have tailed off, although the number of guests staying during the peak season has remained the same - people just leave it to the last minute to book, (I assume either because they think the hotels will not be booked out, or they wait until the last minute in case there is another coup/ghastly murder/ flood/ ebola etc etc in Thailand). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalbo123 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Certainly this must be a mistake, TAT will come soon with new numbers that will show exactly the opposite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post englishoak Posted October 1, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2014 Interestingly quite a few of of our Thai friends overseas are giving Thailand a miss too, they arnt happy or impressed with the image at the moment rather than going home a lot seem to be finding alternatives. Its not just farang who are skipping Thailand, even its own overseas arnt keen to visit the way things are right now. Most I know are putting things off for this and next year. Cant say I blame them. The Thai men overseas i know are pretty embarrassed but at least they accept and seem to be and almost 100% in agreement those murders were probably done by a Thai and that its never been safe for tourists in Thailand, and more so its really not safe for women. Whatever the danger to farang is on holiday, its far far greater for Thai women and they know it. 15 - 20% ? I think its going to end up a lot higher than that in reality 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOC Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 they will turn to crime The tourists?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fobuff Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 good job great leader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nong38 Posted October 1, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2014 The years and years of rip offs/scams etc have come home to roost and nobody saw it coming! Well no worries there are loads of Chinese on the way, the problem is they are all on packages tours with no time to riped off apart from those on route who are also waiting to prey. It will be a good day when the Thais that count on tourists start to look after them rather than fleece them, then they might come back. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipperylobster Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 So, twenty percent more fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falangjim Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Another ting , What they do about deny people from Africa come and spread the Ebola virus ??? There is no ebola in Thailand. Maybe you're confusing Thailand with USA. It has spread to USA so you'd better keep well away from there. In fact, you'd better stay in your room and not have contact with anyone. Why deny Africans when southern Thai Muslims travelling to Saudi Arabia for El Haj will surely bring ebola back to the Kingdom here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) Tourists not big on military dictatorships, who`d have thought!? Interestingly hotel prices are going up rather than down despite demand going down and supply going up. A couple of years back 1000 baht got you a decent 3* hotel in Bangkok whilst 2000 baht got you a 4* or even 5* hotel such as the Rembrandt where we always stay at when in town. Looking at prices for our next trip the Rembrandt is 5000 baht a night!? Talk about making a bad situation worse! When we were last there is June there was about a dozen other customers. This is the proof. Lower quantity but higher quality. I expect backpackers to hold their full moon parties elsewhere. Edited October 1, 2014 by trogers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scavenger Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) A 20% drop just because of martial law? Wait unitl they read about the wristband and tracking, the violent taxi drivers back behind their wheels on the streets of Phuket, and of the immigration raid at Punspace in Chiang Mai... Edited October 1, 2014 by scavenger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
organic Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Tourists not big on military dictatorships, who`d have thought!? Interestingly hotel prices are going up rather than down despite demand going down and supply going up. A couple of years back 1000 baht got you a decent 3* hotel in Bangkok whilst 2000 baht got you a 4* or even 5* hotel such as the Rembrandt where we always stay at when in town. Whenever there's a decline in tourism, Thai landlords put up the rents on commercial properties in the tourist sector, leaving the operators the choice of putting up their prices or go bust, so usually it isn't just hotel prices that escalate. I've got a visit planned for December. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf61 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 No idea about tourism. I live in a silent village, doing my work, lovely neighbours around. Use to spend my tourism-money to Lao, Malaysia, Vietnam aso. Looking for some clues regarding Myanmar. Planning a trip to China. And I feel lots of Farangs around the world think the same... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPB65 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 I'd like to see some more detailed figures of which nationalities are dropping off and which are increasing their numbers to Thailand. I'm guessing westerners will show the sharpest decline whereas Russia, India, middle east and China will show greater numbers travelling to Thailand. Without getting high and mighty about it I believe most Thais do still prefer western visitors in terms of behaviour and manners. When I ask my Thai wife if she likes the Russians "god no, they look terrible", Indians "no, too smelly", Arabs, "no !" and Chinese "omg, no"., westerners "yes, I like them". Sums it up really. Not that we're racist of course...... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namdocmai Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Another ting , What they do about deny people from Africa come and spread the Ebola virus ??? With all the open food on markets the ebola would spread very fast in Thailand. But Thailand has the medicine to stop ebola Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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