soalbundy Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 IF the arrested Burmese are scapegoats then there will NEVER be an independent investigation. Obviously no co-operation from RTP to be expected then. They will simply point the finger back to social media and foreign press responsible for creating mass hysteria. Maybe, but it still has to go to court and if the Thai judiciary hopes to salvage whatever confidence is left in them it will be thrown out. The international community can have an influence,quietly,behind the scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 3 Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 IF the arrested Burmese are scapegoats then there will NEVER be an independent investigation. Obviously no co-operation from RTP to be expected then. They will simply point the finger back to social media and foreign press responsible for creating mass hysteria. Maybe, but it still has to go to court and if the Thai judiciary hopes to salvage whatever confidence is left in them it will be thrown out. The international community can have an influence,quietly,behind the scenes. Righteo then. So this time the coppers will not speak with public prosecutors who will In turn not influence the judges or the court process. You know that this is taking place in Thailand right ? You think the coppers will lose face a second time around over this debacle ? Damn sure they ll stitch this up to a month of Sundays and beyond. As for the PM - to see that he is complicate in this is ripping my Thai friends apart right now. They feel ashamed to be Thai this week I can assure you. . Among other .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 IF the arrested Burmese are scapegoats then there will NEVER be an independent investigation. Obviously no co-operation from RTP to be expected then. They will simply point the finger back to social media and foreign press responsible for creating mass hysteria. Maybe, but it still has to go to court and if the Thai judiciary hopes to salvage whatever confidence is left in them it will be thrown out. The international community can have an influence,quietly,behind the scenes. Righteo then. So this time the coppers will not speak with public prosecutors who will In turn not influence the judges or the court process. You know that this is taking place in Thailand right ? You think the coppers will lose face a second time around over this debacle ? Damn sure they ll stitch this up to a month of Sundays and beyond. As for the PM - to see that he is complicate in this is ripping my Thai friends apart right now. They feel ashamed to be Thai this week I can assure you. . Among other .. What might weigh more on the minds of the judges is that THEY could lose face if they allow this travesty of justice to go through. The PM can always say he was misled by the police, the sword will have to come down on the man in charge of the investigation the RTP will distance themselves from such practices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 3 Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 IF the arrested Burmese are scapegoats then there will NEVER be an independent investigation. Obviously no co-operation from RTP to be expected then. They will simply point the finger back to social media and foreign press responsible for creating mass hysteria. Maybe, but it still has to go to court and if the Thai judiciary hopes to salvage whatever confidence is left in them it will be thrown out. The international community can have an influence,quietly,behind the scenes.Righteo then. So this time the coppers will not speak with public prosecutors who will In turn not influence the judges or the court process. You know that this is taking place in Thailand right ? You think the coppers will lose face a second time around over this debacle ?Damn sure they ll stitch this up to a month of Sundays and beyond. As for the PM - to see that he is complicate in this is ripping my Thai friends apart right now. They feel ashamed to be Thai this week I can assure you. . Among other .. What might weigh more on the minds of the judges is that THEY could lose face if they allow this travesty of justice to go through. The PM can always say he was misled by the police, the sword will have to come down on the man in charge of the investigation the RTP will distance themselves from such practices. Fair point that. Only there are relationships and protectionism at stake here. The concept of losing face will ensure all parties stick together like glue. Watch. Everything so far has been text book Enquiry Thailand has it not ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 The Brit press has scented blood now,this wont just fade away. Maybe the Thais don't care about international opinion but they sure care about tourist numbers and they wont let the numbers collapse because of ''police face'',they will be thrown to the wolves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceybonus Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 (edited) I must admit I thought Sean was a witness at best. Maybe he wasn't???????????????? Edited October 23, 2014 by MJP Image removed from post by MJP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 3 Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 I must admit I thought Sean was a witness at best. Maybe he wasn't????????????????? https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=708780339199694&id=596740650403664&set=a.600950366649359.1073741828.596740650403664&source=46&refid=13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOC Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 IF the arrested Burmese are scapegoats then there will NEVER be an independent investigation. Obviously no co-operation from RTP to be expected then. They will simply point the finger back to social media and foreign press responsible for creating mass hysteria. Maybe, but it still has to go to court and if the Thai judiciary hopes to salvage whatever confidence is left in them it will be thrown out. The international community can have an influence,quietly,behind the scenes. Funniest post of the day!! Do you seriously think the "independant" Thai judiciary will throw out the case, because the procecutors case is not strong enough?? As for international pressure, Thailand has shown time and time again, they couldn't care less. A speedy trial, scapegoats convicted and it is bu$ine$$ as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 better to petition the travel industry that is Thailand's concern-tourist revenue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 IF the arrested Burmese are scapegoats then there will NEVER be an independent investigation. Obviously no co-operation from RTP to be expected then. They will simply point the finger back to social media and foreign press responsible for creating mass hysteria. Maybe, but it still has to go to court and if the Thai judiciary hopes to salvage whatever confidence is left in them it will be thrown out. The international community can have an influence,quietly,behind the scenes. Funniest post of the day!! Do you seriously think the "independant" Thai judiciary will throw out the case, because the procecutors case is not strong enough?? As for international pressure, Thailand has shown time and time again, they couldn't care less. A speedy trial, scapegoats convicted and it is bu$ine$$ as usual. see post 1158 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phuketboy Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Framed and used as scapegoats for sure. They should be DNA by an independent agency outside of Thailand. This would mean someone would have to come here and personally take the samples away to be tested. The entire thing is BS and we know the scum family and that little shit of son did it. I wouldn't be surprised if the police weren't involved as well. Absolute BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 3 Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Framed and used as scapegoats for sure. They should be DNA by an independent agency outside of Thailand. This would mean someone would have to come here and personally take the samples away to be tested. The entire thing is BS and we know the scum family and that little shit of son did it. I wouldn't be surprised if the police weren't involved as well. Absolute BS. Can we again request the missing 2 minutes of CCTV footage that the police cut from what was released. I am not prepared to let this request simply fade away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOC Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 The Brit press has scented blood now,this wont just fade away. Maybe the Thais don't care about international opinion but they sure care about tourist numbers and they wont let the numbers collapse because of ''police face'',they will be thrown to the wolves. I believe this case goes much higher up the foodchain. The "local mafia" are merely pawns in the big game. I can imagine that a large percentage of the title-deeds on the 3 islands, KT, KP and KS, are less than correct. And someone is not very happy with all the focus on the islands because of an inconvenient murdercase. A big fat check to some high ranking policeofficer to "solve" the case and make it go away? Those people couldn't care less about the face of Thailand or the Brit press. Their only interest is to keep prying eyes away and protect their investment. And we are talking big money here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englishoak Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Police chief SOMYOT has now threatened people who criticise the police or talk about how it was conducted with criminal court action. ie disrespecting the police will not be tolerated .... So in a nutshell they are scared and rolled out the threats. and no im not making it up Lets see them try it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 3 Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 The Brit press has scented blood now,this wont just fade away. Maybe the Thais don't care about international opinion but they sure care about tourist numbers and they wont let the numbers collapse because of ''police face'',they will be thrown to the wolves. I believe this case goes much higher up the foodchain. The "local mafia" are merely pawns in the big game.I can imagine that a large percentage of the title-deeds on the 3 islands, KT, KP and KS, are less than correct. And someone is not very happy with all the focus on the islands because of an inconvenient murdercase. A big fat check to some high ranking policeofficer to "solve" the case and make it go away? Those people couldn't care less about the face of Thailand or the Brit press. Their only interest is to keep prying eyes away and protect their investment. And we are talking big money here! Government/ military involved in this coverup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParadiseLost Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Police chief SOMYOT has now threatened people who criticise the police or talk about how it was conducted with criminal court action. ie disrespecting the police will not be tolerated .... So in a nutshell they are scared and rolled out the threats. and no im not making it up Lets see them try it One step closer to N Korea mentality... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Police chief SOMYOT has now threatened people who criticise the police or talk about how it was conducted with criminal court action. ie disrespecting the police will not be tolerated .... So in a nutshell they are scared and rolled out the threats. and no im not making it up Lets see them try it Just common thugs. What a terrible blight on the Thai people they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunglebag Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 SEAN McANNA, YOU WITNESSED THE MURDERS AND MOST LIKELY TRIED TO SAVE DAVID and HANNAH Stand up and be a man and tell the world what you know, you are surely safe on UK soil HOW CAN YOU LET 2 HUMAN BEINGS WHO DIDNT COMMIT THE CRIME GET THE DEATH PENALTY? BE A HERO ! If you are refusing to say anything then I believe you are involved in the murders At least 1 of Hannahs mates has told about the phone etc If I may add - Sean ignore the advise about keeping quiet. It is imperative that you step forward. This investigation is about to be closed. Is that really justice for David and Hannah in your eyes ? As difficult as it is for you right now. You must step up to the plate and grow a pair right now. I am sorry that this has been thrust upon you and we realise this is not your choice but it is what it is mate. I have no 'likes' left so +1 instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunglebag Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Framed and used as scapegoats for sure. They should be DNA by an independent agency outside of Thailand. This would mean someone would have to come here and personally take the samples away to be tested. The entire thing is BS and we know the scum family and that little shit of son did it. I wouldn't be surprised if the police weren't involved as well. Absolute BS. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 (edited) The Brit press has scented blood now,this wont just fade away. Maybe the Thais don't care about international opinion but they sure care about tourist numbers and they wont let the numbers collapse because of ''police face'',they will be thrown to the wolves. I believe this case goes much higher up the foodchain. The "local mafia" are merely pawns in the big game. I can imagine that a large percentage of the title-deeds on the 3 islands, KT, KP and KS, are less than correct. And someone is not very happy with all the focus on the islands because of an inconvenient murdercase. A big fat check to some high ranking policeofficer to "solve" the case and make it go away? Those people couldn't care less about the face of Thailand or the Brit press. Their only interest is to keep prying eyes away and protect their investment. And we are talking big money here! Tourism is big money as well, big money through out Thailand not just some pissy little island, see post 1167, they are running scared already. They don't have the power that many think they have and they know it. Edited October 4, 2014 by soalbundy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 SEAN McANNA, YOU WITNESSED THE MURDERS AND MOST LIKELY TRIED TO SAVE DAVID and HANNAH Stand up and be a man and tell the world what you know, you are surely safe on UK soil HOW CAN YOU LET 2 HUMAN BEINGS WHO DIDNT COMMIT THE CRIME GET THE DEATH PENALTY? BE A HERO ! If you are refusing to say anything then I believe you are involved in the murders At least 1 of Hannahs mates has told about the phone etc If I may add - Sean ignore the advise about keeping quiet. It is imperative that you step forward. This investigation is about to be closed. Is that really justice for David and Hannah in your eyes ? As difficult as it is for you right now. You must step up to the plate and grow a pair right now. I am sorry that this has been thrust upon you and we realise this is not your choice but it is what it is mate. I have no 'likes' left so +1 instead I don't like to slander anyone but just maybe Sean is more involved than we think,therefore the silence. Have the British police interviewed him ? has his DNA been taken ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mataleo Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 bkk post mentions andrew drummond heh google - Torture alleged in Koh Tao questioningon bkk post they say about phone alegation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_Dog Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 (edited) bkk post mentions andrew drummond heh google - Torture alleged in Koh Tao questioningon bkk post they say about phone alegation That article also mentions the phone being given to the police by her friend, and not found near the suspects. That one twist of the facts alone shows the police have manipulated this case. This thing is far from over. Kudos to the Bangkok Post for open reporting. Edited October 4, 2014 by T_Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 bkk post mentions andrew drummond heh google - Torture alleged in Koh Tao questioningon bkk post they say about phone alegation You have a lot of courage considering your posts if you rely on a Visa extension. Though i have beaten you and flayed you by the living God that made you you're a better man than i am Gunga Din. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fr3nzy Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 here u go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 3 Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 SEAN McANNA, YOU WITNESSED THE MURDERS AND MOST LIKELY TRIED TO SAVE DAVID and HANNAH Stand up and be a man and tell the world what you know, you are surely safe on UK soil HOW CAN YOU LET 2 HUMAN BEINGS WHO DIDNT COMMIT THE CRIME GET THE DEATH PENALTY? BE A HERO ! If you are refusing to say anything then I believe you are involved in the murders At least 1 of Hannahs mates has told about the phone etc If I may add - Sean ignore the advise about keeping quiet. It is imperative that you step forward. This investigation is about to be closed. Is that really justice for David and Hannah in your eyes ? As difficult as it is for you right now. You must step up to the plate and grow a pair right now. I am sorry that this has been thrust upon you and we realise this is not your choice but it is what it is mate. I have no 'likes' left so +1 instead I don't like to slander anyone but just maybe Sean is more involved than we think,therefore the silence. Have the British police interviewed him ? has his DNA been taken ? That's our whole point. He is involved. He did meet David that night. Hes terrified. But he should not take the silence route in Thailand. It's actually the worst thing he can do for this case and for these two boys that potentially face execution. Any family in trouble in thailand, that did stay quiet, always report later that they regretted it That they realised it was just to help the police move on in the way they are accustomed to - with no oversight or scrutiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yougivemebaby Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 here u go 10301367_911859252193874_5124803697160315316_n.jpg Don't even look close to the same phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthieB Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Sean McAnna, living it up in Choppers Bar during a pub crawl, just a few HOURS after the horrific murder of his 'good friend'. Clearly devastated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceybonus Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 here u go 10301367_911859252193874_5124803697160315316_n.jpg Don't even look close to the same phone. No nothing like it Wow, you need some new eyes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceybonus Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 david superimposed ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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