Koh Tao: All three migrant workers confess to rape and murder of British tourists

[SteveFong]

I don't know fella's

they have DNA

they have confessions

Sean probably ratted

the kid has an alibi

they are doing a re-enactment

if it is staged,

they are putting on, one helluva show

[mango66]

they did not use 18 days !!

there were 3 culptries !!

so they used only 6 days per one !!

6 days is pretty good,

but what now,

we know 2 weapons were used,

but in interview he made a mistake and said he used only the hoe !!

so RTP please tell him to correct this !!

[boomerangutang]

Please Miss Marple, get active !! there were a report on the autopsie of the victims,

it said: 2 different weapans were used, a hoe on the lady, and some kind of wooden part on the male, which could not be found !! but now we hear, he did use " only the hoe !! Interesting case :

And we heard the semen came from 2 Asians. Now we hear 3. Also, the hoe was put in another location the day after. Is it just coincidence that one of the Headman's brood was on the beach that morning, along with his police buddy (who won't get DNA sampled, by the way).

What's that?!! A Thai policeman committing a dastardly crime?!. Impossible, dude. (but don't talk to the pretty Thai woman who had her armed hacked off by an off-duty Thai cop because she put down his advances).

[gcdhar]

Should have death penalty as soon as possible. This will be a lesson for those who still have such corrupted mind.

[bruceybonus]

I don't know fella's

they have DNA

they have confessions

Sean probably ratted

the kid has an alibi

they are doing a re-enactment

if it is staged,

they are putting on, one helluva show

I can't believe you are wavering.

[uptheos]

While there, he was given updates in the developments of the murder case and expressed his satisfaction on how the case was being handled and his government would not interfere in any way with the investigation.

Sounds like the British ambassador was unwittingly put on the spot while socialising with the Royal Thai Police high so's.

They obviously don't want the DNA results double checked by the British ..I wonder why?

Whatever could of made me so cynical?

Would the Brits want their results double checked by another country?

[Anthony5]

Please Miss Marple, get active !! there were a report on the autopsie of the victims,

it said: 2 different weapans were used, a hoe on the lady, and some kind of wooden part on the male, which could not be found !! but now we hear, he did use " only the hoe !! Interesting case :

And we heard the semen came from 2 Asians. Now we hear 3. Also, the hoe was put in another location the day after. Is it just coincidence that one of the Headman's brood was on the beach that morning, along with his police buddy (who won't get DNA sampled, by the way).

What's that?!! A Thai policeman committing a dastardly crime?!. Impossible, dude. (but don't talk to the pretty Thai woman who had her armed hacked off by an off-duty Thai cop because she put down his advances).

Not that I want to interrupt your drivel posting, but where did WE hear that the semen now comes from 3 Asians ?

[phanangpete]

I do wonder if they were given an Lm cigarette during interogation, and the phone could have been planted.

I would have closure on this case if the UK unit who offered their help, checked the DNA results, too many times have the Burmese taken the blame in murder and rape cases !

But in saying that if they are the guilty justice will be served.

[boomerangutang]

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I don't know fella's

they have DNA

they have confessions

Sean probably ratted

the kid has an alibi

they are doing a re-enactment

if it is staged,

they are putting on, one helluva show

Yes, the re-enactment. When I first heard that word in this grisly murder case, I almost puked, because I think the 3 Burmese fellows were coerced in to saying guilty. However, the re-enactment should be videotaped. I wouldn't be surprised if the re-enactment didn't fit with the evidence, and one or more cops may be heard to say things like, "Not there by the tree, no I think you actually dropped the hoe over by the rock" ....like some small town movie directors. Or, "I think you forgot to change your jeans for the victim's shorts. Here, try that scene again."

[Wombat6]

"taken to a safe house" and " Intensively interrogated".....

In other words, having the living shit beaten out of you until you break and sign an already written confession statement..

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I wonder what A safe house is ??? Isn't the Police Station safe ?? What is Thai intensive interrogation" as opposed to a normal interrogation ????

[boomerangutang]

Should have death penalty as soon as possible. This will be a lesson for those who still have such corrupted mind.

Trouble with a quick death penalty: what if evidence surfaces later which exonerates the Burmese? Plus, if they've been paid or coerced to plead guilty, it would stand to reason that they would also be offered money and/or a long sentence instead of death. Just for the record: sentences in Thailand are often lessened by Royal decree.

[stephen terry]

While there, he was given updates in the developments of the murder case and expressed his satisfaction on how the case was being handled and his government would not interfere in any way with the investigation.

Sounds like the British ambassador was unwittingly put on the spot while socialising with the Royal Thai Police high so's.

They obviously don't want the DNA results double checked by the British ..I wonder why?

Whatever could of made me so cynical?

Would the Brits want their results double checked by another country?

I'm sure they wouldn't want to, but if the other country's citizens were murdered on British soil, I would have expected the two police forces to liaise and share information, if the other country was a 'friendly' country. I didn't read anything on here or other media that the RTP even considered extending that basic courtesy.

[dieseldave1951]

1 obviously you dont accept the scapegoat issue,just pin it on some ignoramus who just does not know what he is letting himself in for

2 there was no word on the street thats half the problem people were not keeping quiet over migrant workers the kept quiet because it was some mafia type in the frame

3 well i have not heard the police stating the taxi driver was lying (and even if he is )there are many Thai nationals who have a dim view of the conduct of the police, having a bar you can hear the confersations going on

4 as for the heavies the only reason the put the heat on McAnna was because he saw something that would implicate some big wigs relative son brother

5 where i am i have a bar and guest house i have never had nor witnessed a row or even strong voices in my bar

there are of coarse some rows i have heard about but only verbal

There are still too many unanswered questions or loose ends for this to be a simple slam dunk for the police.

1. Why did it take so long to identify and test these 3 suspects ?

2. The word on the street was that everyone there knew who it was but was keeping quiet. Why keep quiet over 3 migrant workers ?

3. The taxi driver allegedly being bribed by the police to give false testimony.

4. Assuming what he said was true (a big if I grant you) then why would local heavies put the heat on Sean McAnna, saying he did it and was going to hang for it ?

5. What about the row/fight in the bar with local Thais earlier that evening ?

Considering the utter mess they are all in I would imagine framing 3 hapless migrant workers who happened to be in the vicinity that night is the least complicated way to end this investigation. Nice and tidy just before high season starts. Independent corroboration of DNA samples is a must before these suspects are condemned for life.

1. Are in your country murder suspects always arrested the very next day?

2. Could it be that the word on the street was a word from tv finest

3. Maybe the taxi driver wanted his 5 minutes of fame

4. Because Sean McAnna was accusing them ?

5. Rows in bars are a nightly event in tourist areas, very few result in murders.

Any more considerations just give a shout, or wait, maybe you just don't like to hear the truth.

You may be right but who can know anything for certain with the complete and utter shambles that we've witnessed over the past weeks, and that is the point. You may have 100% confidence in the RTP, I and I'm sure many others don't. If they were so competent how come so many people contamintated the crime scene, how come so many unprofessional statements leaked by the police over the course of the investigation ? We all know how things work in Thailand. Money rules. The suspects may indeed have done it but Thailand's dubious reputation will always precede it and because of that I for one can never fully have confidence in anything to do with the law and true justice here.

[jesterone]

Firstly I know there's been a lot of people pop up on new accounts on TV to stir the pot but I've genuinely been following this and wanted to add:

If you'd been interrogated enough to confess to a murder you didn't commit (there's certainly precedent), then would you dob your two mates in as well?

It's hard to say, when you haven't suffered the torture. But my head tells me I wouldn't bring two of my friends down with me if any of us were innocent.

Maybe they have got the right people.

Saying that; surely grabbing a garden hoe would be an afterthought rather than an initial one. If you're going to be a peeping Tom then why take a weapon at all. Seems very convenient.

[stephen terry]

Firstly I know there's been a lot of people pop up on new accounts on TV to stir the pot but I've genuinely been following this and wanted to add:

If you'd been interrogated enough to confess to a murder you didn't commit (there's certainly precedent), then would you dob your two mates in as well?

It's hard to say, when you haven't suffered the torture. But my head tells me I wouldn't bring two of my friends down with me if any of us were innocent.

Maybe they have got the right people.

Saying that; surely grabbing a garden hoe would be an afterthought rather than an initial one. If you're going to be a peeping Tom then why take a weapon at all. Seems very convenient.

Trouble is, jesterone, I agree, it's all so very convenient. The whole damn story. Maybe they all copped a deal. read this before reading on. https://www.facebook.com/CSILA90210?fref=photo

[KissMyAxe]

ooooh I can feel a clamp down on migrant workers brewing

Edited October 3, 2014 by KissMyAxe

[Alwyn]

"Win stated that he was curious and grabbed a garden hoe and went to sneak a peek of the couple making out."

Curious, so grabbed a garden hoe??

I thought that was strange too. A couple of other things I found strange too; He said he disposed of the how but it was found at the the scene, he also says they were romantically embracing and cuddling each other, yesterday he said they were making love on the beach... This confession has more holes than a colander.

[SteveFong]

I don't know fella's

they have DNA

they have confessions

Sean probably ratted

the kid has an alibi

they are doing a re-enactment

if it is staged,

they are putting on, one helluva show

I can't believe you are wavering.

I don't want to be wavering, BUT,

the bartender,

there was allegedly an argument, or at the least, some kind of rejection

that could have been a waiter, arrested,

it could have been the bartender, arrested

the two guys have probably double teamed girls before.

it isnt unrealistic

Unless they themselves scream frame up.

it's ending

[easybullet3]

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It's on channel 7 now, saw the police with a iPhone in a plastic bag, is this Hannah's phone? A wet sandy phone thrown into a bush behind the room the suspected Myanmar 3 lived. The clip they show also shows the main suspect buying LM cigarettes on CCTV footage inside the 7 11.

Personally it looks like they've been framed and I wonder who paid the police and provided the phone?

They are really selling this story on Thai TV today.

Amazing that the tourism minister visits, predicts the case shall be solved soon and a few days later, voilà, solved.

My advice to tourist's ---- Don't piss off a High Society person whilst on holiday.

In my opinion : if it looks like bs.... and it smells like bs ...... then it is probably bs ......

But I hope I'm wrong ..... and they really are the ones who did it

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i pity the 3 Burmese guys that are being arrested for this murder.

this really seems to me like an case of the Thai Police being in the international spotlight and desperately needing to find a murder suspect.

i REALLY hope that the British Police get a chance to check forensics and evidence and not just accept this judgment at face value.

It's sad how Thai people just blame stuff on Burmese. (as far as I have seen, Burmese are mega lovely people).

i guess we do the same thing back home... Americans blame stuff on PuertoRicans and Africans,,,
UK blames Africans, France Blames Algerians.

of course its possible these 3 guys killed them,

but something is really suspicious about this investigation.. its like they are just desperately trying to lay the blame on ANYONE..

Edited October 3, 2014 by easybullet3

[retell]

"Win stated that he was curious and grabbed a garden hoe and went to sneak a peek of the couple making out."

Curious, so grabbed a garden hoe??

That part is vague ,, must be plenty garden hoes on the beach there at night

We gonna sit on a log play guitar , you bring booze and fags , ill bring the guitar , you bring a garden hoe ?

Anyway whatever ,, hope they get the true suspects

[Tazwa]

Anyone know who the female farang is in the middle of the re-enactment on the beach? Maybe lawyer or relative?

https://www.facebook.com/CSILA90210/photos/pcb.707897595954635/707897545954640/?type=1&theater

Edited October 3, 2014 by Tazwa

[boomerangutang]

Firstly I know there's been a lot of people pop up on new accounts on TV to stir the pot but I've genuinely been following this and wanted to add:

If you'd been interrogated enough to confess to a murder you didn't commit (there's certainly precedent), then would you dob your two mates in as well?

It's hard to say, when you haven't suffered the torture. But my head tells me I wouldn't bring two of my friends down with me if any of us were innocent.

Maybe they have got the right people.

Saying that; surely grabbing a garden hoe would be an afterthought rather than an initial one. If you're going to be a peeping Tom then why take a weapon at all. Seems very convenient.

Welcome to Thai Visa. Re; serious crimes in Thailand, there is often the option given by interrogating police, of having a sentence lightened by admitting the crime. The option is stated something like this, by cops: "We know you did it. If you plead guilty, you will save us a lot of time, and the court's time, and you'll get a lighter sentence, and not the death penalty (if applicable). On the other hand, if you continue to be obstinate, and declare your innocence, YOU WILL BE FOUND GUILTY, and you will get death."

Imagine you're a dirt-poor foreigner in Thailand, of questionable legality. Maybe the cops salted the evidence (perhaps planted drugs in your room, or...?) Cops may even threaten your family members. There may or may not be cash offer. Note: cash plus time-in-prison looks a lot better than death penalty with no cash. You have no advocate within 1,000 miles. There may or may not be torture. Now, taking that all in to account, would you hang tough or play along? If you hang tough and insist on your innocence (which 2 of the 3 Burmese did for many hours), then you're a tougher nut than I.

The distance between forcibly admitting guilt and implicating your 2 buddies who are getting the same treatment in other rooms of the 'safe house', is the width of the swing of a rubber hose.

[Commogwinto]

Mr. Kent went on to praise the Royal Thai Police in solving the case and have shown exemplary professionalism as a crime fighting unit.

People from the UK must be so proud of their ambassador to Thailand.

Who is he trying to kid?? Perhaps the last two letters of his surname are correct.....

[bruceybonus]

Anyone know who the female farang is in the middle of the re-enactment on the beach? Maybe lawyer or relative?

https://www.facebook.com/CSILA90210/photos/pcb.707897595954635/707897545954640/?type=1&theater

someone from sky news!!

[stephen terry]

There are key questions left unanswered:

1. Why has it taken so long to finger these particular Burmese? If they were possible suspects, as soon as the first DNA results came in identifying Asian origin they could have been rounded up long ago. If they were the real perps, wouldn't the locals have blown the whistle?

2. Why is it that the headman, his brother and family refused to give any DNA samples to justify their assertion of innocence? Why didn't the police pursue this matter?

I would hazard a guess that one party is guilty and the other isn't. There are many other questions, but I believe these are key to the truth.

As I wrote before, I have no doubt that the Burmese DNA samples will match the victims, simply because they have to. It will satisfy those who believe that RTP have been completely transparent and honest. I don't share that belief.

[jesterone]

Firstly I know there's been a lot of people pop up on new accounts on TV to stir the pot but I've genuinely been following this and wanted to add:

If you'd been interrogated enough to confess to a murder you didn't commit (there's certainly precedent), then would you dob your two mates in as well?

It's hard to say, when you haven't suffered the torture. But my head tells me I wouldn't bring two of my friends down with me if any of us were innocent.

Maybe they have got the right people.

Saying that; surely grabbing a garden hoe would be an afterthought rather than an initial one. If you're going to be a peeping Tom then why take a weapon at all. Seems very convenient.

Welcome to Thai Visa. Re; serious crimes in Thailand, there is often the option given by interrogating police, of having a sentence lightened by admitting the crime. The option is stated something like this, by cops: "We know you did it. If you plead guilty, you will save us a lot of time, and the court's time, and you'll get a lighter sentence, and not the death penalty (if applicable). On the other hand, if you continue to be obstinate, and declare your innocence, YOU WILL BE FOUND GUILTY, and you will get death."

Imagine you're a dirt-poor foreigner in Thailand, of questionable legality. Maybe the cops salted the evidence (perhaps planted drugs in your room, or...?) Cops may even threaten your family members. There may or may not be cash offer. Note: cash plus time-in-prison looks a lot better than death penalty with no cash. You have no advocate within 1,000 miles. There may or may not be torture. Now, taking that all in to account, would you hang tough or play along? If you hang tough and insist on your innocence (which 2 of the 3 Burmese did for many hours), then you're a tougher nut than I.

The distance between forcibly admitting guilt and implicating your 2 buddies who are getting the same treatment in other rooms of the 'safe house', is the width of the swing of a rubber hose.

I certainly understand that, pressure in the right places can force anyone to confess no matter what. What I don't get is why you would implicate two 'friends' if they're not guilty. You'd simply confess to it yourself.

You could argue that they've offered a better deal for naming accomplices. I just like to think if I was in his shoes, I wouldn't name anyone, definitely not people I call friends, unless I considered them guilty.

[Fred Flinstone]

I think this is such a terrible shame

Edited October 3, 2014 by Fred Flinstone

[BoristheBlade]

"Mr. Kent went on to praise the Royal Thai Police in solving the case and have shown exemplary professionalism as a crime fighting unit."

Mr. Kent is either a liar and not a good one, a fool-quite possible or he and the British Government is been clever...doubtful.

In other words as a British Citizen, I am appalled by the attitude of Her Majesty's representative in Bangkok

[boomerangutang]

Why am I not surprised the re-enactment is a farce. Look at the photo below, there are no less than 3 cops directing the suspects what to do and how to do it. One brass-looking official is pointing and shouting directions. One cop in black shirt is right behind the suspects with his arm on one of their shoulders. Another cop who looks like an officer is holding the arm of the other suspect (who looks 95 lbs) and directing what he should be doing. It's not a reenactment it's a staged show with the multiple directors physically controlling every more the suspects make. What a sham. If I were top banana, I would discipline every cop involved with this cover-up case!

[bruceybonus]

Why am I not surprised the re-enactment is a farce. Look at the photo below, there are no less than 3 cops directing the suspects what to do and how to do it. One brass-looking official is pointing and shouting directions. One cop in black shirt is right behind the suspects with his arm on one of their shoulders. Another cop who looks like an officer is holding the arm of the other suspect (who looks 95 lbs) and directing what he should be doing. It's not a reenactment it's a staged show with the multiple directors physically controlling every more the suspects make. What a sham. If I were top banana, I would discipline every cop involved with this cover-up case!

I saw this pic earlier. Look how clueless they are. What a load of absolute tosh