Danhig Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 I noticed that they have heat insulation mats (foam mats with the silver reflective covering on one side). About 500b for one or two meters squared I think. Has anyone ever done it? I presume it would just be a case of removing the ceiling of the car, which presumably is just held on with fasteners etc. Then laying it in. Perhaps the door panels too? Any experiences with it or doing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 (edited) No, usually I'm tearing it out instead of installing it but I certainly wouldn't be putting where it can get wet for obvious reasons. Depends on what kind of headliner you have as to how difficult it is to take out but none of them are really as easy you seem to think? Lights, handles, hangers, and maybe even a sunroof depending? They are really light and delicate and are as large as the inside of the car making them difficult to get out without damaging them, they also have a concave design to hold them in place without sagging and that too makes them quite difficult to get out without damaging them as most, if not all of the trim needs to be removed as it also holds it in. If I were you, instead of asking here, I'd search your particular vehicle on the net, many helpful (and some not so much) YOUTube vids on many projects and according to most here any advice you get won't be valid anyway unless it's posted on the net somewhere? Edited October 5, 2014 by WarpSpeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 No, I just turn on the AC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 That too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danhig Posted October 5, 2014 Author Share Posted October 5, 2014 Okay, so not easy. I would have presumed that for doing the roof it's just a case of unpinning the fabric ceiling, putting the insulating mat on it, then pinning it back in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgrahmm Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Many of the roof panels are form fitted already with some insulation properties...there probably isn't enough space in between...maybe enough for alum foil....but if you've never tried to remove and reinstall a headliner (in one piece) it can be a real trying/defeating experience.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 You ain't going to improve stuff, noooo way, without turning your ride into a box. AC/heater does the stuff in very short time. High end or basic rides have everything possible to protect from heat or cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daffy D Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Just an odd thought How about squirting expanding foam into the roof space? You can get access by temporally removing the roof lights and sun visor fittings and anything else that will let you in. Would probably make the car a bit quieter as well. Let us know how you get on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kartman Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Have you seen how much expanding foam costs here i'd stick with 500 baht mats and yes have done it but to cut down tinnyness roof /doors/rear qtrs (2door car) worked and the air con was good but can't remember what it was like before . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
culicine Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Just an odd thought How about squirting expanding foam into the roof space? You can get access by temporally removing the roof lights and sun visor fittings and anything else that will let you in. Would probably make the car a bit quieter as well. Let us know how you get on polycell_expanding_foam_polyfilla.jpg Just don't put it inside the doors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Okay, so not easy. I would have presumed that for doing the roof it's just a case of unpinning the fabric ceiling, putting the insulating mat on it, then pinning it back in. You'd presume incorrectly but have at it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Just an odd thought How about squirting expanding foam into the roof space? You can get access by temporally removing the roof lights and sun visor fittings and anything else that will let you in. Would probably make the car a bit quieter as well. Let us know how you get on polycell_expanding_foam_polyfilla.jpg A simple roof liner will not stand up to the expansion of that foam and it will crack it, pop it out, and at the very least be all clumpy, bumpy, uneven and a massive mess. There's no way of gauging how much you get in any one area so it's not going to be even or uniform... OP Bad idea IMO.. And no room for error once you've tried it, it doesn't work you're screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotsira Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Am i missing something here OP. What is the point of heat insulating your car when you just turn the A/C on to cool the interior? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danhig Posted October 6, 2014 Author Share Posted October 6, 2014 Am i missing something here OP. What is the point of heat insulating your car when you just turn the A/C on to cool the interior? I refuse to use the aircon in order to save money. I have hooked up a fan system that works off the wheels. Heat insulation would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Am i missing something here OP. What is the point of heat insulating your car when you just turn the A/C on to cool the interior? I refuse to use the aircon in order to save money. I have hooked up a fan system that works off the wheels. Heat insulation would help. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Am i missing something here OP. What is the point of heat insulating your car when you just turn the A/C on to cool the interior? I refuse to use the aircon in order to save money. I have hooked up a fan system that works off the wheels. Heat insulation would help. .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I have hooked up a fan system that works off the wheels. Oh wow, I've just got to see that. Pics? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danhig Posted October 8, 2014 Author Share Posted October 8, 2014 I have hooked up a fan system that works off the wheels. Oh wow, I've just got to see that. Pics? It's just a series of elastic bands and 7-11 stamps molded into blades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgrahmm Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I have hooked up a fan system that works off the wheels. Oh wow, I've just got to see that. Pics? It's just a series of elastic bands and 7-11 stamps molded into blades. Why don't you use playing cards....doesn't seem like you have a full deck anyway..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danhig Posted October 8, 2014 Author Share Posted October 8, 2014 I think the people who failed to see the joke fall in to that category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IMHO Posted October 8, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2014 I have hooked up a fan system that works off the wheels. Oh wow, I've just got to see that. Pics? It's just a series of elastic bands and 7-11 stamps molded into blades. OK cool, I now see you're a real innovator. So here's the solution to your insulation problem: Just cut some branches off the nearest tree, and tie them to your roof - pretty hard to beat shade from a tree! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keemapoot Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Here's an interesting fact about the first aftermarket aircon: First Air-Conditioned Auto (Nov, 1933) http://blog.modernmechanix.com/first-air-conditioned-auto/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I have hooked up a fan system that works off the wheels. Oh wow, I've just got to see that. Pics? It's just a series of elastic bands and 7-11 stamps molded into blades. Why don't you use playing cards....doesn't seem like you have a full deck anyway..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sviss Geez Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 (edited) OK cool, I now see you're a real innovator. So here's the solution to your insulation problem: Just cut some branches off the nearest tree, and tie them to your roof - pretty hard to beat shade from a tree! That's ridiculous, the leaves would drop off the dead branches leaving the roof exposed to the sun again. Much better, and more aesthetically pleasing is simply, using wallpaper paste (superglue is too permanent), cover the car with aluminium foil, shiny side out, and all the heat from the sun will be reflected away to other nearby vehicles. An alternative is to drill a 2 1/2 inch hole through the centre of the roof and drop in one of the large umbrellas normally sported by motorbike sidecar vendors. This way the roof isn't damaged at all by the effects of the wallpaper paste mentioned in my previous suggestion. Edited October 12, 2014 by Sviss Geez 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 (edited) I like the umbrella idea.... Edited October 12, 2014 by transam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ace of Pop Posted October 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2014 .Job Done. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 images.jpg.Job Done. These don't work without a cold air entry point though, so @OP don't forget to drill some holes in the floor too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 OK cool, I now see you're a real innovator. So here's the solution to your insulation problem: Just cut some branches off the nearest tree, and tie them to your roof - pretty hard to beat shade from a tree! That's ridiculous, the leaves would drop off the dead branches leaving the roof exposed to the sun again. Much better, and more aesthetically pleasing is simply, using wallpaper paste (superglue is too permanent), cover the car with aluminium foil, shiny side out, and all the heat from the sun will be reflected away to other nearby vehicles. An alternative is to drill a 2 1/2 inch hole through the centre of the roof and drop in one of the large umbrellas normally sported by motorbike sidecar vendors. This way the roof isn't damaged at all by the effects of the wallpaper paste mentioned in my previous suggestion. I admit I wasn't very specific about the tree, and concede some varieties will lose substantial foliage at highway speeds. Those palms down at the beach seem to do pretty well during typhoons though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 images.jpg.Job Done. These don't work without a cold air entry point though, so @OP don't forget to drill some holes in the floor too. Drill.?. Bet the Floors already rotted away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daffy D Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Leave the car in the garage and go by bus Hot roof problem solved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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