Popular Post Thaddeus Posted October 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2014 You and you colleagues have brought Shame to the people of Thailand, now go back under your stone. Sadly if this lawyer is playing games, in the public, he is going to ensure the suspect(s) get the death penalty if found guilty. The only hope, given just the evidence released to date, is for them to show remorse and cooperate. What a stupid post!! You can think whatever you want about JTJ, but he is actually making some good points (sometimes), so if you don't agree with him, okay bring forward your counterarguments, instead of this childish namecalling!! Ok, please tell me what good points he has made, and narrow down the ones that are still viable. Anyone who has lived here for any length of time know that the RTP are a joke, now the rest of the world is finding out, it comes as no surprise to me that statements like this one get released as the RTP live in an insular little bubble and have always managed to convince one nation that what they say is true (or else).... it takes a much higher level of deception than these numpties are capable of to convince an entire world. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 "Police have resubmitted the case file to prosecutors along with a higher recommended sentence." and the sentence is: "Convict them in spite of any evidence tampering, lack of reason or investigation by authorities, anything that may result in acquittal or else pay the consequences". I can see inquest: "death by suicide of suspects, as they arranged to have their food poisoned in order to tarnish Thailand's image, thus improving oh so important tourist sector of Burma." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smokie36 Posted October 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2014 You and you colleagues have brought Shame to the people of Thailand, now go back under your stone. Sadly if this lawyer is playing games, in the public, he is going to ensure the suspect(s) get the death penalty if found guilty. The only hope, given just the evidence released to date, is for them to show remorse and cooperate. What a stupid post!! You can think whatever you want about JTJ, but he is actually making some good points (sometimes), so if you don't agree with him, okay bring forward your counterarguments, instead of this childish namecalling!! Ok, please tell me what good points he has made, and narrow down the ones that are still viable. Anyone who has lived here for any length of time know that the RTP are a joke, now the rest of the world is finding out, it comes as no surprise to me that statements like this one get released as the RTP live in an insular little bubble and have always managed to convince one nation that what they say is true (or else).... it takes a much higher level of deception than these numpties are capable of to convince an entire world. Indeed Taddy. I was surprised to hear the cracks in the story are being papered over by claiming the two were drunk. Evidence points to them having purchased three beers together....then one lad went back to get a fourth beer to take to his friends who were strumming away on the beach. It would be no surprise to learn that they perhaps smoked a joint or two as well....as they were enjoying their music. Not exactly a massive piss up nor the sort which is likely to result in memory loss. The wine bottle!.....I would expect the police to know exactly who was drinking wine that night and what kind....but no....its irrelevant to the RTP....well of course it is......along with any so called "real evidence". The sadness of this case is there is now almost no chance of convicting the perpertators....and boy is that a travesty because at least one of them is a psychopath....a violent and very dangerous individual. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellyes2oo2 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 (edited) jtj everyone on here knows that you like to make statements praising your beloved rtp, but we all also know that you never abswer questions that may prove that they are not doing their job properly or honestly. so heres another one for you. About 4 days ago the thai pathologist in a television interview said that a 3rd persons dna had been found on hannahs body. Yet nowhere in anything the police have said did they mention that they were looking for a 3rd person, could you speculate why that may be. perhaps the 3rd person is someone they already know, but are not willing to charge. we await your reply with baited breath Edited October 12, 2014 by metisdead Bold font removed again. Please stop using bold font when posting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post catweazle Posted October 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2014 I think that whatever statements they blurt out into public - by now the whole world knows that the RTP is a rotten to the core criminal underground organization who believe to be above the law, above common sense, above evidence, above logic, above human principles, above public opinion, and above life in general. Time for Gen. PM Prayuth to target these brown mafia structures, dismantle them and rebuild a police force that deserves respect due to having earned it! Perhaps we get lucky and the suicide rate amongst Thai policeman skyrockets to 90%, thus separating the wheat from the chaff naturally... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post catweazle Posted October 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2014 jtj everyone on here knows that you like to make statements praising your beloved rtp, but we all also know that you never abswer questions that may prove that they are not doing their job properly or honestly. so heres another one for you. About 4 days ago the thai pathologist in a television interview said that a 3rd persons dna had been found on hannahs body. Yet nowhere in anything the police have said did they mention that they were looking for a 3rd person, could you speculate why that may be. perhaps the 3rd person is someone they already know, but are not willing to charge. we await your reply with baited breath Don't waste your valuable time in fruitless arguments with JTJ - he's a shill and very busy to defend the official story as well as the RTP and to spread pro-Thai, anti-foreign, and especially anti-Burmese sentiment in forums and is most likely getting paid for it. He's not better than the snitches here in Thailand who are willing to drop a dime on their best friends for yet another one year visa. Stop promoting him by quoting his posts and completely ignore him - if we all are lucky he might just wither away. He strives on provoking posters and getting into bitchfights with them. If you virtually ignore him, you deplete his food supply consisting of anger and other negative emotions. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loong Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 I wonder to what lengths this police will go to cover their wrongdoings and not loose face. People in Thailand, people all over the world do not trust them. Thai police and eventually Thailand have become the laughing stock of the world. Somebody in this country, has to realise they are not protecting Thailand of ill repute but on the opposite they are damaging the reputation and integrity of Thailand. "I wonder to what lengths this police will go to cover their wrongdoings and not loose face." Have you noticed the amount of times in these articles that the police have expressed concerns that the suspects may commit suicide? That way, nobody will be surprised if they do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucpez Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Well at least the whole world can now see what a sham Thailand is when it comes to law enforcement and justice. it's still a feudal, hierarchical society with a thin veneer of civilisation on the top, where the only things that matter ultimately is money and position, if you have those you can do anything here, even get away with murder. Hopefully Thailand can redeem itself in the eyes of the world by throwing this case out, because if this travesty ever gets to court the judges are just going to go along with it, the 'verdict' will all be a forgone conclusion. Agree Thailand needs to redeem itself, but surprised that some people still have faith in this junta: http://thediplomat.com/2014/10/thai-junta-beset-by-corruption-scandals/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lingba Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 "Oh what a tangled web we weave, once we start to deceive" The RTP keep twisting this around so much that they don't even know what is real....and whats worse is because they wear uniforms, they think their words are golden and that everyone will kneel and believe them.. I pray that these men get a fair trial 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 "Oh what a tangled web we weave, once we start to deceive" The RTP keep twisting this around so much that they don't even know what is real....and whats worse is because they wear uniforms, they think their words are golden and that everyone will kneel and believe them.. I pray that these men get a fair trial Quite right.....one can only hope that this case with these 2 boys doesn't get to the trial stage........if it does...they're gonners! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapout Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 I wonder to what lengths this police will go to cover their wrongdoings and not loose face. People in Thailand, people all over the world do not trust them. Thai police and eventually Thailand have become the laughing stock of the world. Somebody in this country, has to realise they are not protecting Thailand of ill repute but on the opposite they are damaging the reputation and integrity of Thailand. "I wonder to what lengths this police will go to cover their wrongdoings and not loose face." Have you noticed the amount of times in these articles that the police have expressed concerns that the suspects may commit suicide? That way, nobody will be surprised if they do! The RTP organization is the breeding ground for a major portion of the illegal activity in Thailand. Make a list of the politicians most associated with corruption and their common background seems to be former policemen. They act as godfathers in their sphere of influence and their rank ensures they get obiedence or at least silence from those reporting to them. They operate just like the numerous mafia type, set up in various proviences and in many cases in tandem with them, thus keeping competation at bay. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mok199 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 who's on first.''no.who's on second''if who is on second ''who's on first''no who's on first..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercool Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Post that altered an original post and all posts that quoted that were removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigman Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 (edited) If they commit "suicide " or they they will be hanged then it is will be most convenient solution for many with dirty hands in this country. History repeats it self's and never ends if nothing radical happen this time... Nothing surprise me any more in this world and similar "systems" We always know what we allowed to know.. So, Mr. Prayuth ...please....I still keep believing in you and your action. Edited October 12, 2014 by gigman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsider Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 What did Abraham Lincoln say... "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt"... or something like that. Someone should translate that into Thai and distribute it to these bumbling morons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 How many kicks. And inmate observations did that need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 If I were those boys , I would confess i was a goat if they told me to. 21 years old. Their lives will never be the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love1012 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 I think that whatever statements they blurt out into public - by now the whole world knows that the RTP is a rotten to the core criminal underground organization who believe to be above the law, above common sense, above evidence, above logic, above human principles, above public opinion, and above life in general. Time for Gen. PM Prayuth to target these brown mafia structures, dismantle them and rebuild a police force that deserves respect due to having earned it! Perhaps we get lucky and the suicide rate amongst Thai policeman skyrockets to 90%, thus separating the wheat from the chaff naturally... but of course he wont - theyre ingrained into Thai culture!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Black Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 jtj everyone on here knows that you like to make statements praising your beloved rtp, but we all also know that you never abswer questions that may prove that they are not doing their job properly or honestly. so heres another one for you. About 4 days ago the thai pathologist in a television interview said that a 3rd persons dna had been found on hannahs body. Yet nowhere in anything the police have said did they mention that they were looking for a 3rd person, could you speculate why that may be. perhaps the 3rd person is someone they already know, but are not willing to charge. we await your reply with baited breath The first 2 DNA samples spoke of were from a cigarette butt found near the scene...One of those DNA samples was from the female victim. The 3rd DNA sample spoke of was found on the female victim from the 2nd suspect....hence 3 DNA samples mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby nz Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 The lawyers, the embassy and the procecutors are all lying?? And the police is telling the truth??I think so.There is a big difference between:- saying to the media that the suspect retracted- making an official retraction to the policeI agree with JohnThailanJohn: "The lawyer seems to be playing to the conspiracy theorists" ................................................................................................................................................................................................... How do you think they could tell the police they retracted their statements ? Perhaps the 2 accused could call a press conference with the police chief along and publicly retract their admission of guilt before the world, do you think the police would allow that ?. Even if they did tell the police they recanted do you really think the police would tell anyone ? The police have continued to issue threats against then, on another topic. A panel of prosecutors had merely asked the police investigators to review the case and to maximise the punishment in light of evidence the suspects had tried to cover up their crime, he said. The suspects were informed of the revised penalty recommendation, but police have not said how many years in prison they may face, he said. As per : As you have retracted your confessions we have recommended any penalty against you be increased and if you continue we have the power to make things even worse for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATF Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Obviously they have been told if they recant then they face the death penalty. Tough choice for anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geistfunke Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 For me it is not important if the young burmese men confess or not confess and if they retract a confession or not. The two burmese men are now inside the prison in Koh Samui. The conditions inside a Thai prison are so terrible and life fearing, that they will confess anything just to survive the next couple of days...If they retract their confession in a "private" talk with their lawyer and this talk is published by the lawyer, the two burmese men will have an immediately response inside the prison system. Its not nice to stay a day and a night in feces up to your lips and to fear that you could drown... They have no chance now and the penalization fantasy "inside" the Thai prison system is unimaginable for outsiders. They have to do whatever the authorities want them to do. If not, they not have to "commit suicide". An accusation of an "attempt to escape" is working fine in most cases.The only chance is to wait for the trial and to have clear evidence that they are not involved in the murder. Maybe - if the burmese men can see a chance to get out of the prison direct after the trail - they are willing to retract their confessions openly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellyes2oo2 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 (edited) joe black sorry mate you are 100% wrong. the first 2 samples were supposed to have been from the 2 burmese guys. the third sample as stated by the pathologist was from an unknown subject. stop trying to apologise for the rtp. I don't know if you have followed this case from the start. if you have then your thinking is all wrong. i am sure that most people on this thread will put you right as too who the dna belongs to. but one thing is certain as stated by the police only these 2 guys are guilty, as for the 3rd dna we are too ****g lazy to investigate. No sorry we know who it belongs too, but we have been paid a million baht not to say anything. as the police of chief said " perfect job, cased closed'. Edited October 12, 2014 by metisdead Bold font removed again. Please stop using bold font when posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyexile Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Are we really surprised by these statements ? I wonder why they bother. We all now know they are a joke. Guess we are all hoping the good general will eventually get fed up with them embarrasing him, and he might sort them out. The good general does not need the police to embarrass him, he is Supreme Commander of Police. Has done a good job by himself with his Police Commissioner General helping. The regime can instruct the Judiciary as to the verdict. Under Martial Law and the New Interim Constitution, regime can overrule and or suspend the Judiciary. This starts on KT with W. Follow the family, business and political links you end up at the venerable S. Right to the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Black Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 . i am sure that most people on this thread will put you right as too who the dna belongs to.... You know.. I think I will keep thinking for myself thanks..I don't remember apologizing for the RTP or anybody for that matter.. I still the reserve the right to have my own opinion as do you.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedom4life Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 (edited) "Oh what a tangled web we weave, once we start to deceive" The RTP keep twisting this around so much that they don't even know what is real....and whats worse is because they wear uniforms, they think their words are golden and that everyone will kneel and believe them.. I pray that these men get a fair trial . Edited October 12, 2014 by freedom4life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedom4life Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 "Oh what a tangled web we weave, once we start to deceive" The RTP keep twisting this around so much that they don't even know what is real....and whats worse is because they wear uniforms, they think their words are golden and that everyone will kneel and believe them.. I pray that these men get a fair trial It shouldn't even get to trial?! It's ridiculous and why aren't they going after the real culprits? The longer they ignore the REAL suspects, the more foolish they will become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedom4life Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 "Oh what a tangled web we weave, once we start to deceive" The RTP keep twisting this around so much that they don't even know what is real....and whats worse is because they wear uniforms, they think their words are golden and that everyone will kneel and believe them.. I pray that these men get a fair trial It shouldn't even get to trial?! It's ridiculous and why aren't they going after the real culprits? The longer they ignore the REAL suspects, the more foolish they will become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedom4life Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 "Oh what a tangled web we weave, once we start to deceive" The RTP keep twisting this around so much that they don't even know what is real....and whats worse is because they wear uniforms, they think their words are golden and that everyone will kneel and believe them.. I pray that these men get a fair trial It shouldn't even get to trial?! It's ridiculous and why aren't they going after the real culprits? The longer they ignore the REAL suspects, the more foolish they will become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Monster Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I am mystified as to why these two suspects repeatedly reject the offers of a Lawyer from the RTP. For sure, if it was me up to my A?$@ in a swamp full of crocs, I would want somebody to throw me a rope - and quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.png.3b3332cc2256ad0edbc2fe9404feeef0.png)
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now