soalbundy Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Seems to me that the gun is being jumped; surely the main thing should be to demonstrate that an altered governmental system is open to social pressures. Here even social pressure is bought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snig27 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I was waiting for today's barking looney statement from our dear rulers and here it comes right on schedule. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asdecas Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Why bother with elections at all, just have, say, an army General appoint himself Prime Minister. Oh... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interman Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 (edited) the one MP per province has one huge and fatal flaw, it is unequal representation. Classic Thainess, it's not about representation, it's about status, and thus you only need one boss per province. They are f**kn clueless about democracy. Edited October 13, 2014 by Interman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farang99 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Do they really think that increasing the power of local government (District/tambon/municipality) would reduce corruption? They must be barking. Just even more chances to fill their pockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 "with one elected MP from each province" is the perfect thing for vote buying. Make it 100 MPs all party list MPs. No need for province MPs. Reduce the 77 provinces to 5-20. Allow referendums like in Switzerland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy chef 1 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Less Politicians = less corruption, hes down to 77 - how long before it's only one politician? all happened before. ah i forgot history isn't part of the Thai curriculum.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 How does decreasing the number of MPs and giving more powers to local bodies cut corruption, when even the post of village heads is determined by vote buying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatboy Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 The picture sums up so much of what happens here, A Thai would be ' somebody ' plus a microphone = a d..ickhead comment. national goverment TO local ones. so thats why the local ob-bor-tor has been giving food to the monks every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razer Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 That's like prescibing Aspirin for Ebola. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionchaser45 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 It works out mathematically. Seventy-seven corrupt politicians minus 70 corrupt politicians equals 7 corrupt politicians, which clearly results in less corruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MobileContent Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 This would be the end of the Democrat Party if they really move ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mataleo Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Orwelian state that is proper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCruncher Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Looks like dear Chai-Anan is laying the building stones for a one man rules it all governing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sviss Geez Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 The picture sums up so much of what happens here, A Thai would be ' somebody ' plus a microphone = a d..ickhead comment. You certainly know all about those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangon04 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Less Politicians = less corruption, hes down to 77 - how long before it's only one politician? well taking this Thai logic to its conclusion.. NO politicians or people in authority = no corruption at all. Every Thai will act in the best interests of society and his fellow Thai without being told to, and every Thai will follow the guiding principle of sufficiency economy and there will be Thainess and happiness all round. Easy really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaimaishoe Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 the one MP per province has one huge and fatal flaw, it is unequal representation. A fatal flaw or design intent? I guess that depends if you are on the side that can't seem to win an election or not. Doh! How many MPs are elected in BKK? Most go to which party? hint , it's not Pay Twice (real value) Party. If that were an important consideration, ie was key to continued dominance of the democratic process, then you might have a point. But, it is not. The large population of BKK and its associated representation is NOT enough to maintain control of Thai politics, control has required coup after coup. Therefore it is a failed, and unimportant advantage. If you have a weak position, with no apparent/appealing way of strengthening it in the current system, then change the system. You sacrifice your insufficient advantage, and put in place a new Potential advantage. What is the potential advantage? The ability to target low population districts and gain exactly the same incremental power (one MP vote) as winning a huge population district. Now you have a scenario where a relatively small investment, can reap enormous rewards. A small gov program that benefits only one area is much cheaper than trying to buy the votes of a large population. I hate to bring up US politics again, but I am familiar with it and it is illustrative because that is how the US senate works. Wyoming with under 600k people has the same 2 votes in the Senate that the nearly 40 MILLION people of California has. Which senate seats do you think are cheaper to buy? And THAT is the system this guy is proposing for Thailand. Also, the system he is proposing is demonstrably un-fair, disenfranchising, and easily corrupted. So, after the smokescreen of reducing corruption blows away, you have to ask... WHY is he proposing it as a "democratic" reform? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sviss Geez Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 'Fewer Thai MPs would mean less corruption' ..........And fewer cars would mean less traffic.........yeah..right! "..........And fewer cars would mean less traffic.........yeah..right! Well actually, yes, that would be 100% accurate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamahele Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I think that the government should decentralize, however there is corruption at every level here so corruption must be stopped first before it is just taken from the city and spread to the countryside. Already my husband complains about the corruption in our province. Claims we live in the most corrupt province in Thailand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ming Mueng Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 How about no MP's at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zooheekock Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 This is just the start of the 'softening up' period to provide reasons to reduce the voting power of the poor in the North and NE. That's been an on-going project since 1932. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinCityGr8One Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 So, by his reasoning, fewer MP's would mean less corruption? Let's expand on his reasoning. Then NO MP's would mean NO corruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinCityGr8One Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 (edited) Duplicate post, sorry Edited October 13, 2014 by SinCityGr8One Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxYakov Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Less Politicians = less corruption, hes down to 77 - how long before it's only one politician? Errrrr ... I believe it already is (down to one) but who's counting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangebrew Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Correct me If I'm wrong , so by reducing amount of MP's less corruption? or in other words translates to bigger bribe pots spread among fewer corrupt MP's Equals Less corrupt officials? Where is my Thainess handbook? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 (edited) Aha. So logically, if they only had one MP like a dear leader such as north Korea there would be almost no corruption then. Why does Thailand produce such simple minded pooyais? Edited October 13, 2014 by Thai at Heart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangebrew Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 How about this Civilian Review board watching over MP's if Mp found to be corrupt all assets seized and upon conviction serve 20 years in prison at hard labor no early out, and family plus him or herself banned for life for any office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 the one MP per province has one huge and fatal flaw, it is unequal representation. agreed - proportional representation is critical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zooheekock Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Why does Thailand produce such simple minded pooyais? Because it's much easier to stand up in public and repeat this nonsensical drivel if you are sufficiently stupid that the obvious absurdity of it all completely escapes you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 How about this Civilian Review board watching over MP's if Mp found to be corrupt all assets seized and upon conviction serve 20 years in prison at hard labor no early out, and family plus him or herself banned for life for any office. Could we have one of those for the military also? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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