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Cracked it!

looks.like you've brothered up with the chavs.

suppose that would be about right one owner robbin its national coffers the other owner just robbin.

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Cracked it!

looks.like you've brothered up with the chavs.

suppose that would be about right one owner robbin its national coffers the other owner just robbin.

Aray na! Can somebody help me out what he's going on about...clear as mud to me.

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Cracked it!

looks.like you've brothered up with the chavs.

suppose that would be about right one owner robbin its national coffers the other owner just robbin.

Aray na! Can somebody help me out what he's going on about...clear as mud to me.

No help needed ! Just sidestep Rijit when he is in one of his ornery, inscrutable moods !

Many thanks to you both...very very helpful.

If i can trouble you a bit further. What would your opinion of this one in Brentford be - reason i ask is it looks ok and is a bit cheaper that Wandsworth weekends when we'll most likely visit (but i assume it would be in a more expensive travel zone?)?

http://www.premierinn.com/en/hotel/BREPTI/london-kew

• 52 High Street, Brentford, TW8 0BB
• Brentford Train Station 0.5 mile
• Kew Bridge Train Station 0.5 mile

I used to work on the fringes of Brentford for 2 months of the year at Beechams (pharma factory/HO) and have run from several pubs in the town centre*. It's a fairly average 30's/40's overspill town that got overtaken by London sprawl. Still has a seperate town feel and whilst boring to look at has several good pubs and a good range of restaurants (nothing as adventurous as Putney/Fulham/Chelsea mind).

The pubs at Kew Bridge on the river would be one of my highlights of any visit to West London (that plus a visit to Fullers Chiswick brewery or Youngs Wandsworth brewery plus brewery tap, the latter being walkable from Premier Wandsworth).

Travel costs when comparing the two:

East Putney tube and Wandsworth Town rail station and bus stops in the local are in fare zone 2, whereas Brentford train station is in Zone 4, Kew Bridge rail station is zone 3 and buses will be zone 3 or 4.

The difference in fare is illustrated by the daily travel card costs, using a visitor Oyster card (non-refundable £3 to purchase each card - can be bought online and sent to UK address in advance

Travel card for off-peak use - using within Zones 1&2 only £7.00; using with zones 1 to 4 is only 70p more

Travel card for use throughout all days - zones 1&2 is £8.40; zones 1 to 4 is a more significant £2.20

[Peak travel times are Monday to Friday (excluding public holidays) from 06:30 to 09:29 and 16:00 to 18:59]

But the maximum cost that will be charged to your Oyster Card if you travel only on buses is £4.40, and is good for all zones 1 to 6 and there is no time restriction (but you would be mad using the buses in peak periods for anything but a short hop)

So if you are prepared to use buses there is no additional cost to staying in Brentford. Your choice of buses into (different parts of Central London) will be less in Brentford and the journey will be longer. I'm guessing that within 5 minutes of your respective hotels there will be two routes from Brentford into different parts of Central London (plus trains to Waterloo), whereas there will be 5 from Wandsworth (plus trains to Waterloo and Victoria and tubes). Journey times to Piccadilly Circus out of rush hour (guessing): ex-Wandsworth 30-40 mins; ex-Brentford 50-60mins. Add 50% to these times for peak hours! All of my guesses are capable of being thoroughly researched online.

Personally I would be prepared to pay a premium of up to 40 quid a night for a family of four for us to be nearer central London and in a genuine cosmopolitan part of central London and with greater transport flexibility. For many a 20 quid a night saving is worth having and someone who is on a strict budget and prepared to use buses almost exclusively and suffer the consequences of longer journey times (particularly in peak hours) would jump at any cost saving on the hotel.

I'm assuming you are not driving. If you are then Brentford is easier for access from/to the north and west and car parking at the hotel will be cheaper. Oh, and another thing - Brentford has planes landing at Heathrow 400 feet overhead; they are literally putting their landing gear down so careful of falling stowaways. At Wandsworth you will notice them when outside, but in these days of whsiper-jet engines they are not obtrusive at 2,000 feet. Look carefully at guest reviews for Premier Brentford to see if the sound insulation does its job. My guess for a new hotel is that it will do its job.

https://www.tfl.gov.uk/travel-information/visiting-london/visitor-oyster-card

*No I don't run my bills! Hashing venues - 'drinkers with a running problem'

Just spotted that you mention a weekend visit BB. That implies limited time for looking around. Has to be Wandsworth in my book - it's real London and Brentford will be dead at weekends in comparison.

You need a lot of pre-research to plan such a short visit to London. With a family including kids my essentials would be:

• A river trip covering at least the Houses of Parliament to Tower Bridge. I used to introduce London to foreign house-guests by taking a boat from Putney pier to Tower Bridge, but I don't know whether that still runs
• A quick peek at Buckingham Palace and the Houses of Parliament/Westminster Abbey
• Walk from Trafalgar Square up thru Leicester Square to Picadilly then up Regent Street and along Oxford Street to Marble Arch. Jump on the very regular buses when younger (or older) kids get fractious.
• Take a bus (scheduled - route 11) from Trafalgar Square to Liverpool Street - you will see The Strand/Aldwych (spot the theatres), Fleet Street, St Paul's Cathedral and the City (which will be very quiet at weekends)
• A walk around the South Bank at Tower Bridge (street performers/free theatre and great views) across Tower Bridge and around the Tower
• Petticoat Lane market (Sunday morning) plus curry buffet in Brick Lane/environs, or Notting Hill + Portobello Road on Saturday, or Camden Market all weekend
  

Those are all free except the first. The London Eye (wheel) is far too expensive. Madame Tussaud's is expensive but kids and wives love it. Free to look inside St Pauls Cathedral and Westminster Abbey - or at least it used to be.

I lived in London for 30 years until 2008 - Portobello Road, Putney, Bromley and Tower Bridge. Not a place to retire to but a great city and writing about it makes me miss it!

Santisuk -

Brilliant postings! I don’t know what your profession is but those are excellent explanations…thanks very much…I feel guilty now that I’ve put you to so much trouble [feel free to ask me questions on Manchester ;-) ].

We’ll be staying 20 nights in UK hotels so I was looking to save a little here and there, but as you say the premium of staying nearer central London is insignificant.

Definitely hadn’t considered the planes situation, but as uk home and samut Prakarn home both are on the flight paths, not such a problem for me personally being used to planes sound in the night, but I agree could be for others.

So Wandsworth it is then…

...and I will certainly be following your itinerary. I’ve been to all the places before – years ago - but the missus and our boys have never been…the wife will be very happy posting her snaps of all those places on her Facebook pages for all her ‘girls’ here in Thailand. I asked her where do you want to go in London, the only places she mentioned were Buckingham Palace...and obviously Harrods (Thais have just got to go there).

Going for a long weekend (go Friday, back to sunny Manchester on Monday). Was planning on going w/e of 04.10.14 but just realised 5 mins ago that might not be a good idea (fixtures, premier teams only, Chelsea v Arsenal, Tottenham Hotspur v Southampton, and West Ham United v Queens Park Rangers – bloody hell!). W/e of 18.10.14 still confident of getting tickets for Manchester City v Tottenham Hotspur. There’s no football w/e of 11.10.14 so that might be a better time for a visit.

Cheers…and back to football matters.

Are we all getting bored by the excessive amount of newspaper inches LV-G & United are getting...and there's no doubt from those inches who the media want to win the Premier this year.

Are we all getting bored by the excessive amount of newspaper inches LV-G & United are getting...and there's no doubt from those inches who the media want to win the Premier this year.

I think the media will be just as thrilled if LVG falls on his face. They love a ballyhooed loser more than anything else. There ain't no thrill like stomping on 'em when they're down.

Are we all getting bored by the excessive amount of newspaper inches LV-G & United are getting...and there's no doubt from those inches who the media want to win the Premier this year.

I think the media will be just as thrilled if LVG falls on his face. They love a ballyhooed loser more than anything else. There ain't no thrill like stomping on 'em when they're down.

Media will go mental when its LV-G vs Jose...

Just spotted that you mention a weekend visit BB. That implies limited time for looking around. Has to be Wandsworth in my book - it's real London and Brentford will be dead at weekends in comparison.

You need a lot of pre-research to plan such a short visit to London. With a family including kids my essentials would be:

• A river trip covering at least the Houses of Parliament to Tower Bridge. I used to introduce London to foreign house-guests by taking a boat from Putney pier to Tower Bridge, but I don't know whether that still runs
• A quick peek at Buckingham Palace and the Houses of Parliament/Westminster Abbey
• Walk from Trafalgar Square up thru Leicester Square to Picadilly then up Regent Street and along Oxford Street to Marble Arch. Jump on the very regular buses when younger (or older) kids get fractious.
• Take a bus (scheduled - route 11) from Trafalgar Square to Liverpool Street - you will see The Strand/Aldwych (spot the theatres), Fleet Street, St Paul's Cathedral and the City (which will be very quiet at weekends)
• A walk around the South Bank at Tower Bridge (street performers/free theatre and great views) across Tower Bridge and around the Tower
• Petticoat Lane market (Sunday morning) plus curry buffet in Brick Lane/environs, or Notting Hill + Portobello Road on Saturday, or Camden Market all weekend

Those are all free except the first. The London Eye (wheel) is far too expensive. Madame Tussaud's is expensive but kids and wives love it. Free to look inside St Pauls Cathedral and Westminster Abbey - or at least it used to be.

I lived in London for 30 years until 2008 - Portobello Road, Putney, Bromley and Tower Bridge. Not a place to retire to but a great city and writing about it makes me miss it!

walk up as far as london bridge and go to borough market. one of my favourite places in london that.

one of my favourite places in london that.

M1 North Bound is mine

Manchester City midfielder Yaya Toure says he wants to stay at the Premier League club for "as long as possible".

Think he's come out of the summer looking like a real schemer. Never been a favourite of mine and he's let himself down big time. I can see City's "mandarins" already planning ahead for his departure in the next 2 seasons.

Your thoughts?

Just spotted that you mention a weekend visit BB. That implies limited time for looking around. Has to be Wandsworth in my book - it's real London and Brentford will be dead at weekends in comparison.

You need a lot of pre-research to plan such a short visit to London. With a family including kids my essentials would be:

• A river trip covering at least the Houses of Parliament to Tower Bridge. I used to introduce London to foreign house-guests by taking a boat from Putney pier to Tower Bridge, but I don't know whether that still runs
• A quick peek at Buckingham Palace and the Houses of Parliament/Westminster Abbey
• Walk from Trafalgar Square up thru Leicester Square to Picadilly then up Regent Street and along Oxford Street to Marble Arch. Jump on the very regular buses when younger (or older) kids get fractious.
• Take a bus (scheduled - route 11) from Trafalgar Square to Liverpool Street - you will see The Strand/Aldwych (spot the theatres), Fleet Street, St Paul's Cathedral and the City (which will be very quiet at weekends)
• A walk around the South Bank at Tower Bridge (street performers/free theatre and great views) across Tower Bridge and around the Tower
• Petticoat Lane market (Sunday morning) plus curry buffet in Brick Lane/environs, or Notting Hill + Portobello Road on Saturday, or Camden Market all weekend

Those are all free except the first. The London Eye (wheel) is far too expensive. Madame Tussaud's is expensive but kids and wives love it. Free to look inside St Pauls Cathedral and Westminster Abbey - or at least it used to be.

I lived in London for 30 years until 2008 - Portobello Road, Putney, Bromley and Tower Bridge. Not a place to retire to but a great city and writing about it makes me miss it!

walk up as far as london bridge and go to borough market. one of my favourite places in london that.

Yep. Globe, Wheatsheaf and Market Porter within 50 yards of each other. Tough place to leave tho'

Overnight to Euston...Brekkie in staff cafe underneath at 5am, then 1st tube to The Wheatsheaf for 6:30am pre game drinks....The Good Old (away) Days

Manchester City midfielder Yaya Toure says he wants to stay at the Premier League club for "as long as possible".

Think he's come out of the summer looking like a real schemer. Never been a favourite of mine and he's let himself down big time. I can see City's "mandarins" already planning ahead for his departure in the next 2 seasons.

Your thoughts?

If Yaya keeps knocking 'em dead on the pitch City would be fools to get rid of him. He's one of the best footballers in the world and he ain't bit nobody.

Manchester City midfielder Yaya Toure says he wants to stay at the Premier League club for "as long as possible".

Think he's come out of the summer looking like a real schemer. Never been a favourite of mine and he's let himself down big time. I can see City's "mandarins" already planning ahead for his departure in the next 2 seasons.

Your thoughts?

If Yaya keeps knocking 'em dead on the pitch City would be fools to get rid of him. He's one of the best footballers in the world and he ain't bit nobody.

There ain't no doubt that Yaya is a great footballer and a great asset that has the ability to change a game in a split second. However, he can be a tad lazy and moody and he has to realise that he ain't bigger than the club. If he went, it wouldn't concern me too much.

Manchester City midfielder Yaya Toure says he wants to stay at the Premier League club for "as long as possible".

Think he's come out of the summer looking like a real schemer. Never been a favourite of mine and he's let himself down big time. I can see City's "mandarins" already planning ahead for his departure in the next 2 seasons.

Your thoughts?

If Yaya keeps knocking 'em dead on the pitch City would be fools to get rid of him. He's one of the best footballers in the world and he ain't bit nobody.

There ain't no doubt that Yaya is a great footballer and a great asset that has the ability to change a game in a split second. However, he can be a tad lazy and moody and he has to realise that he ain't bigger than the club. If he went, it wouldn't concern me too much.

You've been reading my mind again and posting my thoughts have you...we're 100% agreed on Yaarya. If he left it would be like when Tevez and others left, not a problem for me, but if Silva was to spit the dummy and leave I'd be brokenhearted...love the wee man!

Bredbury...you gotta take your kids to Hamleys... On Regent St...in fact send your wife along with them for an hour and have a well earned pint around the corner lol.....

Manchester City midfielder Yaya Toure says he wants to stay at the Premier League club for "as long as possible".

Think he's come out of the summer looking like a real schemer. Never been a favourite of mine and he's let himself down big time. I can see City's "mandarins" already planning ahead for his departure in the next 2 seasons.

Your thoughts?

If Yaya keeps knocking 'em dead on the pitch City would be fools to get rid of him. He's one of the best footballers in the world and he ain't bit nobody.

There ain't no doubt that Yaya is a great footballer and a great asset that has the ability to change a game in a split second. However, he can be a tad lazy and moody and he has to realise that he ain't bigger than the club. If he went, it wouldn't concern me too much.

You've been reading my mind again and posting my thoughts have you...we're 100% agreed on Yaarya. If he left it would be like when Tevez and others left, not a problem for me, but if Silva was to spit the dummy and leave I'd be brokenhearted...love the wee man!

Yeah BB, they are all replaceable but Silva is a different kettle o'fish. His skill, attitude and workrate just make him poised to be a legend at City.

P.S. Oh and Zabba.

P.P.S. Oh and Vinny

And enough now about bladdy Larndon. This is a oop'north thread

And enough now about bladdy Larndon. This is a oop'north thread

There's a great umbrella shop in Bond St......

And enough now about bladdy Larndon. This is a oop'north thread

There's a great umbrella shop in Bond St......

James Smith & Sons

Manchester City midfielder Yaya Toure says he wants to stay at the Premier League club for "as long as possible".

Think he's come out of the summer looking like a real schemer. Never been a favourite of mine and he's let himself down big time. I can see City's "mandarins" already planning ahead for his departure in the next 2 seasons.

Your thoughts?

If Yaya keeps knocking 'em dead on the pitch City would be fools to get rid of him. He's one of the best footballers in the world and he ain't bit nobody.

There ain't no doubt that Yaya is a great footballer and a great asset that has the ability to change a game in a split second. However, he can be a tad lazy and moody and he has to realise that he ain't bigger than the club. If he went, it wouldn't concern me too much.

You've been reading my mind again and posting my thoughts have you...we're 100% agreed on Yaarya. If he left it would be like when Tevez and others left, not a problem for me, but if Silva was to spit the dummy and leave I'd be brokenhearted...love the wee man!

I love Silva but without Yaya City would have been extremely fortunate to finish top 4. He scored 20 goals from midfield and helped on defense when City were hurting in the back. I don't care if he takes time off and hunkers down to take a shit every now and then. And, if he were white he wouldn't catch near as much needless crap as he does. Getting rid of his <deleted> agent would help, I'll give you that.

And enough now about bladdy Larndon. This is a oop'north thread

There's a great umbrella shop in Bond St......

James Smith & Sons

Can't see you with a customised brolly mate....maybe the ladies in your life though! ;-)

Manchester City midfielder Yaya Toure says he wants to stay at the Premier League club for "as long as possible".

Think he's come out of the summer looking like a real schemer. Never been a favourite of mine and he's let himself down big time. I can see City's "mandarins" already planning ahead for his departure in the next 2 seasons.

Your thoughts?

If Yaya keeps knocking 'em dead on the pitch City would be fools to get rid of him. He's one of the best footballers in the world and he ain't bit nobody.

There ain't no doubt that Yaya is a great footballer and a great asset that has the ability to change a game in a split second. However, he can be a tad lazy and moody and he has to realise that he ain't bigger than the club. If he went, it wouldn't concern me too much.

You've been reading my mind again and posting my thoughts have you...we're 100% agreed on Yaarya. If he left it would be like when Tevez and others left, not a problem for me, but if Silva was to spit the dummy and leave I'd be brokenhearted...love the wee man!

I love Silva but without Yaya City would have been extremely fortunate to finish top 4. He scored 20 goals from midfield and helped on defense when City were hurting in the back. I don't care if he takes time off and hunkers down to take a shit every now and then. And, if he were white he wouldn't catch near as much needless crap as he does. Getting rid of his agent would help, I'll give you that.

You can lian us Silva then....just pay half his wages and we'll look after him.

Bredbury...you gotta take your kids to Hamleys... On Regent St...in fact send your wife along with them for an hour and have a well earned pint around the corner lol.....

I enforce a strict 1km detour regime where toy shops and handbags are located...helps my sanity, sure you know what i mean

You can lian us Silva then....just pay half his wages and we'll look after him.

Now why would we want to do that? You can have Sinclair on that deal if you like...interested?

Manchester City 2 Liverpool 2: (Liverpool win 3-1 on penalties)

In-form Montenegrin Stevan Jovetic scored both City's goals either side of Jordan Henderson's effort before Raheem Sterling's late equaliser. City's opener came courtesy of a defensive blunder from Steven Gerrard. At that point there was a definite sense of deja-vu in the air, but this time Liverpool pulled it back.

City lost the penalty shoot-out 3-1 after Aleks Kolarov, Yaya Toure and Jesus Navas' missed, meaning Kelechi's Iheanacho's cool effort was just a consolation.

Wednesday 30 July 2014, 7:00PM

Yankee Stadium Att:49,653
Guinness International Champions Cup

Manchester City:

Caballero (Hart 46), Clichy (Richards 70), Kolarov, Boyata, Nastasic, Fernando, Navas, Zuculini, Milner (Iheanacho 46), Jovetic (Yaya Toure 70), Dzeko (Sinclair 46)

Unused subs:

TBC

Liverpool:

Jones (Mignolet 90), Kelly (Robinson 46), Enrique (Johnson 46), Coates, K Toure, Gerrard (Lucas 76), Coutinho, Sturridge (Sahko 76), Henderson, Allen (Can 65), Lambert (Sterling 46)

Unused subs:

TBC

Are we all getting bored by the excessive amount of newspaper inches LV-G & United are getting...and there's no doubt from those inches who the media want to win the Premier this year.

Yes bored to death with it!

Then we have to put up with P45Mustang posting on here his messages of love and adulation for the dutchman!

Just spotted that you mention a weekend visit BB. That implies limited time for looking around. Has to be Wandsworth in my book - it's real London and Brentford will be dead at weekends in comparison.

You need a lot of pre-research to plan such a short visit to London. With a family including kids my essentials would be:

• A river trip covering at least the Houses of Parliament to Tower Bridge. I used to introduce London to foreign house-guests by taking a boat from Putney pier to Tower Bridge, but I don't know whether that still runs
• A quick peek at Buckingham Palace and the Houses of Parliament/Westminster Abbey
• Walk from Trafalgar Square up thru Leicester Square to Picadilly then up Regent Street and along Oxford Street to Marble Arch. Jump on the very regular buses when younger (or older) kids get fractious.
• Take a bus (scheduled - route 11) from Trafalgar Square to Liverpool Street - you will see The Strand/Aldwych (spot the theatres), Fleet Street, St Paul's Cathedral and the City (which will be very quiet at weekends)
• A walk around the South Bank at Tower Bridge (street performers/free theatre and great views) across Tower Bridge and around the Tower
• Petticoat Lane market (Sunday morning) plus curry buffet in Brick Lane/environs, or Notting Hill + Portobello Road on Saturday, or Camden Market all weekend

Those are all free except the first. The London Eye (wheel) is far too expensive. Madame Tussaud's is expensive but kids and wives love it. Free to look inside St Pauls Cathedral and Westminster Abbey - or at least it used to be.

I lived in London for 30 years until 2008 - Portobello Road, Putney, Bromley and Tower Bridge. Not a place to retire to but a great city and writing about it makes me miss it!

You miss it!!! I'm depressed and homesick after reading all this! Until i moved here i lived in central London my whole life.

Are we all getting bored by the excessive amount of newspaper inches LV-G & United are getting...and there's no doubt from those inches who the media want to win the Premier this year.

Yes bored to death with it!

Then we have to put up with P45Mustang posting on here his messages of love and adulation for the dutchman!

Think P45Mustang has gone AWOL.