Manchester City

[mrbojangles]

Not only have we had circa 200,000 more than Liverpool but our average % attendance is also a lot higher. However, let's not let the facts get in the way eh Wilai

 

http://www.soccerstats.com/attendance.asp?league=england

 

[mrbojangles]

5 hours ago, rijit said:

you pay 27 mil and he's a  loaner,,, YET AGAIN your mob are really setting high standards for financial irresponsibility 

 

 

 

Part of the deal was that he can play out the remainder of the season in Brazil. Not the same thing as a "loaner" in which you bring someone in and loan them out to any club.

 

As for financial irresponsibility. We've bought about 6 players for the price of Pogba. Of course we have spent big, no denying that in this crazy transfer world but I can't remember us ever breaking premier league transfer records. Think you should be pointing fingers at other clubs first instead of singling out City

[Bredbury Blue]

1 hour ago, mrbojangles said:

sart of the deal was that he can play outoutstandingremainder of the season in Brazil. Not the same thing as a "loaner" in which you bring someone in and loan them out to any club.

 

As for financial irresponsibility. We've bought about 6 players for the price of Pogba. Of course we have spent big, no denying that in this crazy transfer world but I can't remember us ever breaking premier league transfer records. Think you should be pointing fingers at other clubs first instead of singling out City

 

I think also there's a work permit Issue; same as Iheanacho, not enough ful caps so have to apply on being outstanding talent.

[alfieconn]

On 8/2/2016 at 4:18 PM, Bredbury Blue said:

^You've been sussed Alfie.

[Cue Alfie with the his BOLD font:
"What do you mean by sussed? Do you have any numbers/facts/figures?"]

;-)

 

oops wrong post 

Edited August 4, 2016 by alfieconn

[alfieconn]

1 hour ago, Bredbury Blue said:

 

I think also there's a work permit Issue; same as Iheanacho, not enough ful caps so have to apply on being outstanding talent.

 

Couldn't you bring him over to play in the Under 21's, then claim he came through the Academy 

[Bredbury Blue]

15 minutes ago, alfieconn said:

 

Couldn't you bring him over to play in the Under 21's, then claim he came through the Academy 

 

Ignoring your comment. Have you seen the clips of him? Probably not eh. He looks good enough to go straight in the first team.

[alfieconn]

40 minutes ago, Bredbury Blue said:

 

Ignoring your comment. Have you seen the clips of him? Probably not eh. He looks good enough to go straight in the first team.

 

If i spent all my time looking at clip's of youngsters on You Tube then i wouldn't have any time to come on here !

 

At 27m i hope he does 

Edited August 4, 2016 by alfieconn

[smokie36]

32 minutes ago, alfieconn said:

 

If i spent all my time looking at clip's of youngsters on You Tube then i wouldn't have any time to come on here !

 

At 27m i hope he does 

 

 

He won't get past the £50m man...but Sterling will need a rest in the Euro Cup of course.

[alfieconn]

1 hour ago, Bredbury Blue said:

 

Ignoring your comment. Have you seen the clips of him? Probably not eh. He looks good enough to go straight in the first team.

 

99% of them Clips are made just to make the player look good, a lot of them are just a sales tool, even you would look good on one of them 

 

Footnote : Have you ever seen a Travel brochure showing grey sky's ?

Edited August 4, 2016 by alfieconn

[Bredbury Blue]

7 hours ago, mrbojangles said:

sart of the deal equivalenthat he can play out the remainder of the season in Brazil. Not the same thing as a "loaner" in which you bring someone in and loan them out to any club.

 

As for financial irresponsibility. We've bought about 6 players for the price of Pogba. Of course we have spent big, no denying that in this crazy transfer world but I can't remember us ever breaking premier league transfer records. Think you should be pointing fingers at other clubs first instead of singling out City

 

I think also theres a work permit I

3 hours ago, alfieconn said:

 

If i spent all my time looking at clip's of youngsters on You Tube then i wouldn't have any time to come on here !

 

At 27m i hope he does 

 

I thought this close season's 27m was supposed to be equivalent to last close seasons 15m.

 

[Get cheesed off with this new forum setup...far better 'as was']

 

[Bredbury Blue]

2 hours ago, alfieconn said:

 

99% of them Clips are made just to make the player look good, a lot of them are just a sales tool, even you would look good on one of them 

 

Footnote : Have you ever seen a Travel brochure showing grey sky's ?

 

Fair point, but still, he looks damn good.

[Bredbury Blue]

Bit quiet over in Tottenhamland is it boys? Is it time you postrd some Poch adulation?

[Bredbury Blue]

Following Alfie’s “Wow impressive” lead….

Man City have received over £26m in transfer fees, potentially rising with add-on’s to over £36m, for Academy products since 2011

David Ball	Undisclosed	Peterborough	31 Jan, 2011
Kieran Trippier	Undisclosed	Burnley	04 Jan, 2012
Chris Chantler	Undisclosed	Carlisle	06 Jan, 2012
Nedum Onuoha	£2,750,000	QPR	26 Jan, 2012
Greg Cunningham	Undisclosed	Bristol C	05 Jul, 2012
Ben Mee	Undisclosed	Burnley	01 Aug, 2012
Vladimir Weiss	£1,500,000	Pescara	02 Aug, 2012
Jeremy Helan	£400,000	Sheff Wed	12 Jul, 2013
*Denis Suárez	£1,000,000	Barcelona B	22 Aug, 2013	*Could rise to £11,000,000 with add-ons
Emyr Huws	£2,500,000	Wigan	01 Sep, 2014
Dedryck Boyata	£1,500,000	Celtic	02 Jun, 2015
Micah Richards	Free	Aston Villa	16 Jun, 2015
Karim Rekik	£3,500,000	Marseille	02 Jul, 2015
John Guidetti	Released	Celta Vigo	11 Jul, 2015
Jordy Hiwula	£150,000	Huddersfield	17 Jul, 2015
Marcos 'Rony' Lopes	£9,000,000	Monaco	28 Aug, 2015
Seko Fofana	£3,800,000	Udinese	25 Jul, 2016
	26.1M + Undisclosed   (*Possibly rising to 37.1M + Undisclosed)

 

[Bredbury Blue]

Came across this interesting piece from Rodney while ambling round t'internet:

Exercpt.
"...If you count the caps of Frank Worthington, Bowles, Tony Currie, Peter Osgood, Rodney Marsh and Alan Hudson, Carlton Palmer has got more caps than all those players combined. I think that tells you something. During Graham Taylor's time England had a midfield with Andy Sinton, David Batty, Carlton Palmer and Geoff Thomas. How the <deleted> are you going to win a World Cup with a team like that?"
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2009/may/21/seven-deadly-sins-football-alf-ramsey-rodney-marsh

[Bredbury Blue]

Tomorrow, City will be drawn to face one of the five unseeded teams in the draw, which means they will meet either Roma, Young Boys, Monaco, Steaua Bucharest or Rostov.

The draw for the playoff round of the Champions League takes place at 11.00 a.m. BST (6 a.m. ET) on Friday, Aug. 5. The first legs will be played on Aug. 16 or 17 with the returns the following week.

Seeded: Manchester City, FC Porto, Villarreal, Ajax, Borussia Monchengladbach
Unseeded: Roma, Young Boys, Monaco, Steaua Bucharest, Rostov

It's got to be Roma.

[Bredbury Blue]

23 hours ago, Bredbury Blue said:

Manchester City sign Brazilian Gabriel Jesus

Guardiola has taken Manchester City's summer spending to over £100m by signing the 19-year-old striker for £27m from Brazilian club Palmeiras – with another £4m to come in add-ons.

Jesus is Guardiola’s sixth signing following the deals for Sane, German midfielder Ilkay Gundogan (£20.4m), Spain striker Nolito (£13.8m), Ukraine striker Oleks Zinchenko (1.7m) and Dutch youngster Aaron Mooy.

City are also close to sealing an £8m deal for Colombian whizzkid Marlos Moreno, 19, who will be loaned to Spanish club Deportivo La Coruna.

 

The Add-ons explained. Lets hope we end up payIng them. 

 

 

 

I

[Bredbury Blue]

^

http://www.mcfcwatch.com/2016/08/04/revealed-the-add-ons-manchester-city-could-pay-for-gabriel-jesus/

[rijit]

15 hours ago, mrbojangles said:

 

Part of the deal was that he can play out the remainder of the season in Brazil. Not the same thing as a "loaner" in which you bring someone in and loan them out to any club.

 

As for financial irresponsibility. We've bought about 6 players for the price of Pogba. Of course we have spent big, no denying that in this crazy transfer wrld but I can't remember us ever breaking premier league transfer records. Think you should be pointing fingers at other clubs first instead of singling out City

youv'e bought a loaner for 27 mil plus, who,  according to your cohorts  you cant even be assured that's gonna be eligible to play for you,  financial irresponsibility??, <deleted> stupid might  be nearer the mark

Edited August 4, 2016 by rijit

[smokie36]

1 hour ago, Bredbury Blue said:

Tomorrow, City will be drawn to face one of the five unseeded teams in the draw, which means they will meet either Roma, Young Boys, Monaco, Steaua Bucharest or Rostov.

The draw for the playoff round of the Champions League takes place at 11.00 a.m. BST (6 a.m. ET) on Friday, Aug. 5. The first legs will be played on Aug. 16 or 17 with the returns the following week.

Seeded: Manchester City, FC Porto, Villarreal, Ajax, Borussia Monchengladbach
Unseeded: Roma, Young Boys, Monaco, Steaua Bucharest, Rostov

It's got to be Roma.

 

May your dreams come true BB. 

[alfieconn]

12 hours ago, Bredbury Blue said:

Following Alfie’s “Wow impressive” lead….

Man City have received over £26m in transfer fees, potentially rising with add-on’s to over £36m, for Academy products since 2011

David Ball	Undisclosed	Peterborough	31 Jan, 2011
Kieran Trippier	Undisclosed	Burnley	04 Jan, 2012
Chris Chantler	Undisclosed	Carlisle	06 Jan, 2012
Nedum Onuoha	£2,750,000	QPR	26 Jan, 2012
Greg Cunningham	Undisclosed	Bristol C	05 Jul, 2012
Ben Mee	Undisclosed	Burnley	01 Aug, 2012
Vladimir Weiss	£1,500,000	Pescara	02 Aug, 2012
Jeremy Helan	£400,000	Sheff Wed	12 Jul, 2013
*Denis Suárez	£1,000,000	Barcelona B	22 Aug, 2013	*Could rise to £11,000,000 with add-ons
Emyr Huws	£2,500,000	Wigan	01 Sep, 2014
Dedryck Boyata	£1,500,000	Celtic	02 Jun, 2015
Micah Richards	Free	Aston Villa	16 Jun, 2015
Karim Rekik	£3,500,000	Marseille	02 Jul, 2015
John Guidetti	Released	Celta Vigo	11 Jul, 2015
Jordy Hiwula	£150,000	Huddersfield	17 Jul, 2015
Marcos 'Rony' Lopes	£9,000,000	Monaco	28 Aug, 2015
Seko Fofana	£3,800,000	Udinese	25 Jul, 2016
	26.1M + Undisclosed   (*Possibly rising to 37.1M + Undisclosed)

 

 

Any idea of an approx value of Academy players in the squad at the moment ?

[alfieconn]

12 hours ago, Bredbury Blue said:

Following Alfie’s “Wow impressive” lead….

Man City have received over £26m in transfer fees, potentially rising with add-on’s to over £36m, for Academy products since 2011

David Ball	Undisclosed	Peterborough	31 Jan, 2011
Kieran Trippier	Undisclosed	Burnley	04 Jan, 2012
Chris Chantler	Undisclosed	Carlisle	06 Jan, 2012
Nedum Onuoha	£2,750,000	QPR	26 Jan, 2012
Greg Cunningham	Undisclosed	Bristol C	05 Jul, 2012
Ben Mee	Undisclosed	Burnley	01 Aug, 2012
Vladimir Weiss	£1,500,000	Pescara	02 Aug, 2012
Jeremy Helan	£400,000	Sheff Wed	12 Jul, 2013
*Denis Suárez	£1,000,000	Barcelona B	22 Aug, 2013	*Could rise to £11,000,000 with add-ons
Emyr Huws	£2,500,000	Wigan	01 Sep, 2014
Dedryck Boyata	£1,500,000	Celtic	02 Jun, 2015
Micah Richards	Free	Aston Villa	16 Jun, 2015
Karim Rekik	£3,500,000	Marseille	02 Jul, 2015
John Guidetti	Released	Celta Vigo	11 Jul, 2015
Jordy Hiwula	£150,000	Huddersfield	17 Jul, 2015
Marcos 'Rony' Lopes	£9,000,000	Monaco	28 Aug, 2015
Seko Fofana	£3,800,000	Udinese	25 Jul, 2016
	26.1M + Undisclosed   (*Possibly rising to 37.1M + Undisclosed)

 

 

Bit hard to compare like for like when the Website is including players that were bought so therefore not fully developed by the Academy 

 

 

 

Edited August 5, 2016 by alfieconn

[Bredbury Blue]

On ‎8‎/‎4‎/‎2016 at 8:46 AM, mrbojangles said:

 

Part of the deal was that he can play out the remainder of the season in Brazil. Not the same thing as a "loaner" in which you bring someone in and loan them out to any club.

 

As for financial irresponsibility. We've bought about 6 players for the price of Pogba. Of course we have spent big, no denying that in this crazy transfer world but I can't remember us ever breaking premier league transfer records. Think you should be pointing fingers at other clubs first instead of singling out City

 

 

Not pointing any fingers  To give Jesus' fee perspective:

 

Most Expensive Teenagers in World Football

 

1. Martial - ManU - 36M - 19 yrs old -Sept 2015 - [Could cost up to 61M with add-ons]

2. Luke Shaw - ManU - 31M - 19 yrs old - June 2014 [Fullback!]

5. Jesus - MCFC - 27M - 19 yrs old - Aug 2016

6. Rooney - ManU - 26M - 19 yrs old - Aug 2004 [How much in today's money was 26M 12 years ago!]

8. Anderson - ManU - 22M - 19 yrs old - May 2007 [How much in today's money was 22M 9 years ago!]

 

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/535408/10-most-expensive-teen-transfers-ever-Man-United-stars-Gabriel-Jesus-join-sportgalleries

[Bredbury Blue]

 

9 hours ago, rijit said:

youv'e bought a loaner for 27 mil plus, who,  according to your cohorts  you cant even be assured that's gonna be eligible to play for you,  financial irresponsibility??, <deleted> stupid might  be nearer the mark

 

I know you've been away for a while and probably not up to speed yet, but why persist with the 'loaner' nonsense; MrBJ answered you already on that (Jesus' is at the Olympics and will see out the end of the Brazilian season).

 

You seem to think that business men, City's management in this case, don't do 'due diligence' before they buy a player. Yes it is likely that City have a hoop to jump through to get Jesus' work permit but we have the Iheanacho precedent and it's unlikely Jesus will not get a work permit, but just say they can't bring in to the Premier, then they could sell him on (ManU, Barcelona and others were all chasing him), or even loan him out.

 

Come on, stop posting unnecessary comments will ya.

[Bredbury Blue]

1 hour ago, alfieconn said:

 

Any idea of an approx value of Academy players in the squad at the moment ?

 

As stated before recently on here, NOBODY knows who’s in City’s squad until Pep announces his squad (some players may yet be sold, go out on loan, be bought, etc), but the following Academy players were in the recent friendly games vs Bayern and Dortmund, and no, I’ve no idea of their value:

 

*Players who’ve a Full City Debut (9 of the 15 below)

 

*Adarabioyo

*Angelino (also loaned out to NYC)

*Barker

Bytyqi

*Celina

Denayer (had season loans out to Celtic – Scottish young player of the season – and Galatasaray)

*Garcia (Aleix)

*Garcia (Manu)

Gunn

Horsfield

*Humphreys

Maffeo (had season loan out to Girona)

O'Brien

*Zuculini

*[Iheanacho]

 

[Bredbury Blue]

1 hour ago, alfieconn said:

 

Bit hard to compare like for like when the Website is including players that were bought so therefore not fully developed by the Academy 

 

 

 

 

 

Actually Alfie, I know you get upset when I refer to players in/from City’s Academy such as Iheanacho as NOT being fully developed by City’s Academy, but above I was following YOUR lead on the Spurs forum where YOU included Spurs players who were NOT fully developed by the Academy; for example:

 

Jamie O’Hara (Arsenal),

Massimo Luongo (APIA Leichhardt Tigers),

Paul-José M'Poku (Standard Liège),

Grant Hall (Brighton & Hove Albion Lewes and Brighton & Hove Albion), and,

Alex Pritchard (West Ham).

 

[rijit]

 

 

I know you've been away for a while and probably not up to speed yet, but why persist with the 'loaner' nonsense; MrBJ answered you already on that (Jesus' is at the Olympics and will see out the end of the Brazilian season).

 

You seem to think that business men, City's management in this case, don't do 'due diligence' before they buy a player. Yes it is likely that City have a hoop to jump through to get Jesus' work permit but we have the Iheanacho precedent and it's unlikely Jesus will not get a work permit, but just say they can't bring in to the Premier, then they could sell him on (ManU, Barcelona and others were all chasing him), or even loan him out.

 

Come on, stop posting unnecessary comments will ya.

I see your iq aint improved, so youve paid 27 mil plus for a player that you hope will beome eligible for a loan. Dilligence?!! Yeah right.











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[Bredbury Blue]

29 minutes ago, rijit said:

 

 

I see your iq aint improved, so youve paid 27 mil plus for a player that you hope will beome eligible for a loan. Dilligence?!! Yeah right.











Sent from my GT-I9000 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app
 

 

 

We’ve bought a player who will join us in January 2017. City will start paying Gabriel Jesus’s wages only once he leaves Palmeiras.

 

Edited August 5, 2016 by Bredbury Blue

[alfieconn]

1 hour ago, Bredbury Blue said:

 

 

Actually Alfie, I know you get upset when I refer to players in/from City’s Academy such as Iheanacho as NOT being fully developed by City’s Academy, but above I was following YOUR lead on the Spurs forum where YOU included Spurs players who were NOT fully developed by the Academy; for example:

 

Jamie O’Hara (Arsenal),

Massimo Luongo (APIA Leichhardt Tigers),

Paul-José M'Poku (Standard Liège),

Grant Hall (Brighton & Hove Albion Lewes and Brighton & Hove Albion), and,

Alex Pritchard (West Ham).

 

 

Your not reading my post's again are you ? i said  "Bit hard to compare like for like when the Website is including players that were bought"  anyway if your going to take the above players out of the equation at least work on the same criteria with your list then compare value's 

Quote

 

 

[Bredbury Blue]

18 minutes ago, alfieconn said:

 

Your not reading my post's again are you ? i said  "Bit hard to compare like for like when the Website is including players that were bought"  anyway if your going to take the above players out of the equation at least work on the same criteria with your list then compare value's 

 

 

 

I always read your posts Alfie. ok, why don't you show us a like for like comparison based on your criteria for City and Spurs academies.

 

Edited August 5, 2016 by Bredbury Blue

[alfieconn]

34 minutes ago, Bredbury Blue said:

 

 

I always read your posts Alfie. ok, why don't you show us a like for like comparison based on your criteria for City and Spurs academies.

 

 

Well 3 players we didn't  buy  Townsend, Caulker, Livermoore sold for 28m, you can do the sums for your mob