Graham8888 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 So no injuries sustained , how did they commit the 2 murders and a rape without sustaining any injury ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post littlebw Posted October 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2014 So anybody think this could be more like the truth? A massage from Koh Tao Burmese community First of all, Thanks a million to CSI LA and fellow Thai friends for standing up for the Justice. Some Burmese people in Koh Tao whispered that the murder was not happened on the beach, it was happened in the guest house where British couple were staying. According to them, Nomsod and his fellow gangsters have harassed and molested the British girl in AC Bar and got fight with the girl, when the British girl has gone back to the guest house after fight, they followed and killed the boyfriend, raped the girl and killed her too. Altogether 5 people, Nomsod and 4 Thai Gangsters (one of them was rumored as a Thai policeman) who worked for his father were involved in the murder. After the murder, they carried the bodies to the beach which is 50 meters away from the guest house, staged as a couple were having sex on the beach and killed on the beach. Two Burmese boys accused were also workers of one of Nomsod's father's businesses on the island, and they were playing a guitar on the beach when Nomsod and his gangsters carrying bodies, and Burmese workers were also asked to helped them carry the bodies too. Two Burmese have to do it because they scared of Nomsod and his gang and his father too. Which mean their DNA can be found on the bodies too. Which make them a perfect scapegoats. The whole Koh Tao community knows about what really happened that night but everybody were scared of Nomsod's family and their gangsters and also the police thus nobody dare to speak out, Koh Tao Burmese were saying its not a secret that Nomsod family is making millions of bath for Thai police every month from many different illegal businesses on the island, and this case too, there was also a rumor that every Thai policeman involved in this case were already bribed handsomely by the Nomsod family. The whole point of a message is to inform the Scotland Yard Police to focus on Nomsad and his thugs, AC Bar, Guest House, Sperm DNA inside the British Girl's womb and find a match. Not to trust on the 'murdered on the beach' fairy tale and tempered evidences and CCTVs on the whole island that are under the Nomsod's family influence. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 "Tourism police, tour operators and community leaders on Koh Tao yesterday held a meeting over what to do to boost tourist safety and provide better services. The proposals included encouraging tourists to dress properly when not swimming or sunbathing, ask them not to commit intimate acts in public, as well as regulate taxi services and publishing do's and don'ts about Thai |culture on leaflets and in other media." Is Thailand new Saudi arabia?? Koh Tao 2015 It has already been established that Hannah was fully dressed, and not causing any sort of sensation. That was false PR, that was uttered by the General by mistake. It was a boneheaded thing to say, in a moment of desperation. For some reason, people seem to be clinging to this concept, which is false, and defamatory. There was no evidence whatsoever, that they were fooling around on the beach. As far as we know they went for a stroll on the sand, as many of us do, and then were attacked by the headman's son. Certainly not by these Burmese guys. So, all of this is merely a smoke screen, designed to deflect away from what really happened. Have we seen this anywhere before? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaPiPuPePo Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 and regardless, of course, violence of any sort, to say nothing of what was done, is an appropriate response. Yikes, I meant to say, of course, that violence is NOT an appropriate response. Goes without saying, but an unfortunate typo….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gweiloman Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 So anybody think this could be more like the truth? A massage from Koh Tao Burmese community First of all, Thanks a million to CSI LA and fellow Thai friends for standing up for the Justice. Some Burmese people in Koh Tao whispered that the murder was not happened on the beach, it was happened in the guest house where British couple were staying. According to them, Nomsod and his fellow gangsters have harassed and molested the British girl in AC Bar and got fight with the girl, when the British girl has gone back to the guest house after fight, they followed and killed the boyfriend, raped the girl and killed her too. Altogether 5 people, Nomsod and 4 Thai Gangsters (one of them was rumored as a Thai policeman) who worked for his father were involved in the murder. After the murder, they carried the bodies to the beach which is 50 meters away from the guest house, staged as a couple were having sex on the beach and killed on the beach. Two Burmese boys accused were also workers of one of Nomsod's father's businesses on the island, and they were playing a guitar on the beach when Nomsod and his gangsters carrying bodies, and Burmese workers were also asked to helped them carry the bodies too. Two Burmese have to do it because they scared of Nomsod and his gang and his father too. Which mean their DNA can be found on the bodies too. Which make them a perfect scapegoats. The whole Koh Tao community knows about what really happened that night but everybody were scared of Nomsod's family and their gangsters and also the police thus nobody dare to speak out, Koh Tao Burmese were saying its not a secret that Nomsod family is making millions of bath for Thai police every month from many different illegal businesses on the island, and this case too, there was also a rumor that every Thai policeman involved in this case were already bribed handsomely by the Nomsod family. The whole point of a message is to inform the Scotland Yard Police to focus on Nomsad and his thugs, AC Bar, Guest House, Sperm DNA inside the British Girl's womb and find a match. Not to trust on the 'murdered on the beach' fairy tale and tempered evidences and CCTVs on the whole island that are under the Nomsod's family influence. Parts of this account is consistent with a version that I heard from Interpol - but substitute "gangsters" for "bodyguards". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaPiPuPePo Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 So anybody think this could be more like the truth? A massage from Koh Tao Burmese community First of all, Thanks a million to CSI LA and fellow Thai friends for standing up for the Justice. Some Burmese people in Koh Tao whispered that the murder was not happened on the beach, it was happened in the guest house where British couple were staying. According to them, Nomsod and his fellow gangsters have harassed and molested the British girl in AC Bar and got fight with the girl, when the British girl has gone back to the guest house after fight, they followed and killed the boyfriend, raped the girl and killed her too. Altogether 5 people, Nomsod and 4 Thai Gangsters (one of them was rumored as a Thai policeman) who worked for his father were involved in the murder. After the murder, they carried the bodies to the beach which is 50 meters away from the guest house, staged as a couple were having sex on the beach and killed on the beach. Two Burmese boys accused were also workers of one of Nomsod's father's businesses on the island, and they were playing a guitar on the beach when Nomsod and his gangsters carrying bodies, and Burmese workers were also asked to helped them carry the bodies too. Two Burmese have to do it because they scared of Nomsod and his gang and his father too. Which mean their DNA can be found on the bodies too. Which make them a perfect scapegoats. The whole Koh Tao community knows about what really happened that night but everybody were scared of Nomsod's family and their gangsters and also the police thus nobody dare to speak out, Koh Tao Burmese were saying its not a secret that Nomsod family is making millions of bath for Thai police every month from many different illegal businesses on the island, and this case too, there was also a rumor that every Thai policeman involved in this case were already bribed handsomely by the Nomsod family. The whole point of a message is to inform the Scotland Yard Police to focus on Nomsad and his thugs, AC Bar, Guest House, Sperm DNA inside the British Girl's womb and find a match. Not to trust on the 'murdered on the beach' fairy tale and tempered evidences and CCTVs on the whole island that are under the Nomsod's family influence. Parts of this account is consistent with a version that I heard from Interpol - but substitute "gangsters" for "bodyguards". Where did you hear this version? If it's not public, can you share a summary? And do you mean substitute "bodyguards" for "gangsters"? I.e., it was his BGs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yann55 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 They were tortured (Beaten) iv never seen pic, proving so... You mean pics taken by the police ? by prison guards ? by other inmates ? Just wondering because in case you didn't know, that's the kind of people who were around them. Not journalists, not friends with their Iphone at the ready, not you either, obviously. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjules007 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Sorry but thai visa forum is infiltrated by the mafia,that means police and army henchmen. Censorship and people on the payroll of the mafia are here and sabotage constantly this forum. Very disturbing but what can you do against multi millions of dollars Thailand´s system is incurable sick. And no,this is not off topic. This desease of corruption is everywhere and will prevail in this country,its just too deep in the society. Really sad but there is no solution. To install normal society in this country its too late, Too many generations of greed army and police at work already Impossible to repair,its just irreparable Sorry, what's the name of that weed again you're smoking? it's called "reality" I agree, although his rant is hardcore, he is right. Too late for change. Furthermore, there are signs of infiltrators here to disrupt, confuse, and change public opinion....it happens a lot when social media gets involved in a high profile 'anything'. It's an old CIA, MI5 tactic....infowars!! it is true, there are many agencies who pay people to spread propaganda on Social media sites. Anyone ever heard of Hasbara?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlebw Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 So anybody think this could be more like the truth? A massage from Koh Tao Burmese community First of all, Thanks a million to CSI LA and fellow Thai friends for standing up for the Justice. Some Burmese people in Koh Tao whispered that the murder was not happened on the beach, it was happened in the guest house where British couple were staying. According to them, Nomsod and his fellow gangsters have harassed and molested the British girl in AC Bar and got fight with the girl, when the British girl has gone back to the guest house after fight, they followed and killed the boyfriend, raped the girl and killed her too. Altogether 5 people, Nomsod and 4 Thai Gangsters (one of them was rumored as a Thai policeman) who worked for his father were involved in the murder. After the murder, they carried the bodies to the beach which is 50 meters away from the guest house, staged as a couple were having sex on the beach and killed on the beach. Two Burmese boys accused were also workers of one of Nomsod's father's businesses on the island, and they were playing a guitar on the beach when Nomsod and his gangsters carrying bodies, and Burmese workers were also asked to helped them carry the bodies too. Two Burmese have to do it because they scared of Nomsod and his gang and his father too. Which mean their DNA can be found on the bodies too. Which make them a perfect scapegoats. The whole Koh Tao community knows about what really happened that night but everybody were scared of Nomsod's family and their gangsters and also the police thus nobody dare to speak out, Koh Tao Burmese were saying its not a secret that Nomsod family is making millions of bath for Thai police every month from many different illegal businesses on the island, and this case too, there was also a rumor that every Thai policeman involved in this case were already bribed handsomely by the Nomsod family. The whole point of a message is to inform the Scotland Yard Police to focus on Nomsad and his thugs, AC Bar, Guest House, Sperm DNA inside the British Girl's womb and find a match. Not to trust on the 'murdered on the beach' fairy tale and tempered evidences and CCTVs on the whole island that are under the Nomsod's family influence. Parts of this account is consistent with a version that I heard from Interpol - but substitute "gangsters" for "bodyguards". Where did you hear this version? If it's not public, can you share a summary? And do you mean substitute "bodyguards" for "gangsters"? I.e., it was his BGs? its on csi facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gweiloman Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 (edited) So anybody think this could be more like the truth? A massage from Koh Tao Burmese community First of all, Thanks a million to CSI LA and fellow Thai friends for standing up for the Justice. Some Burmese people in Koh Tao whispered that the murder was not happened on the beach, it was happened in the guest house where British couple were staying. According to them, Nomsod and his fellow gangsters have harassed and molested the British girl in AC Bar and got fight with the girl, when the British girl has gone back to the guest house after fight, they followed and killed the boyfriend, raped the girl and killed her too. Altogether 5 people, Nomsod and 4 Thai Gangsters (one of them was rumored as a Thai policeman) who worked for his father were involved in the murder. After the murder, they carried the bodies to the beach which is 50 meters away from the guest house, staged as a couple were having sex on the beach and killed on the beach. Two Burmese boys accused were also workers of one of Nomsod's father's businesses on the island, and they were playing a guitar on the beach when Nomsod and his gangsters carrying bodies, and Burmese workers were also asked to helped them carry the bodies too. Two Burmese have to do it because they scared of Nomsod and his gang and his father too. Which mean their DNA can be found on the bodies too. Which make them a perfect scapegoats. The whole Koh Tao community knows about what really happened that night but everybody were scared of Nomsod's family and their gangsters and also the police thus nobody dare to speak out, Koh Tao Burmese were saying its not a secret that Nomsod family is making millions of bath for Thai police every month from many different illegal businesses on the island, and this case too, there was also a rumor that every Thai policeman involved in this case were already bribed handsomely by the Nomsod family. The whole point of a message is to inform the Scotland Yard Police to focus on Nomsad and his thugs, AC Bar, Guest House, Sperm DNA inside the British Girl's womb and find a match. Not to trust on the 'murdered on the beach' fairy tale and tempered evidences and CCTVs on the whole island that are under the Nomsod's family influence. Parts of this account is consistent with a version that I heard from Interpol - but substitute "gangsters" for "bodyguards". Where did you hear this version? If it's not public, can you share a summary? And do you mean substitute "bodyguards" for "gangsters"? I.e., it was his BGs? I have a mate that works in Interpol. It's not public, therefore I am not at liberty to say more about it. And yes, supposedly, there are "his" (the son's) bodyguards. p/s: I could maybe mention that I heard about this over 2 weeks ago.... Edited October 21, 2014 by Gweiloman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnsen Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 If the guest house story is true that is as dispicable as it is shocking. Who owns or runs this guest house. According to other stories another girl was about to be raped in this guest house before jumping out the window to escape. Getting the Burmese to carry the bodies very clever. They must have hacked her face off as a last insult because that certainly happened on the beach. A deliberate, well thought out case of premeditated rape and murder. WHO OWNS OR RUNS THE GUESTHOUSE AND WHAT IS ITS NAME... Life jail sentences for all involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikiea Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 with the ease and swiftness the frame was set in place it makes you wonder how many are in prison falsly? i have seen this in chicago, 2 old winos to weak to stand up straight were accused of killing a local drug dealer & his 2 thug body guards with a hammer & knife for money to buy more wine.strange thing is one wino died in lockup after 3days, he had stage 5 lung cancer the other wino was legaly blind. its not only here, its everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaPhuket Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 "...encouraging tourists to dress properly when not swimming or sunbathing, ask them not to commit intimate acts in public, as well as regulate taxi services and publishing do's and don'ts about Thai culture on leaflets and in other media." There are two things implied in this comment. The first one about appropriate dress is virtually the same comment Prayuth got caught saying about women wearing bikinis, seeming to imply they brought it on themselves. So even after that controversy you have these idiots saying almost the same thing. The second thing is the comment about falang needing to be more aware of Thai culture. However, it was not Thai people who supposedly killed this British couple, but two men from Myanmar, so how did not respecting Thai culture cause this problem...unless it really was Thai people who killed them...ah! I personally do not see anything wrong with the statement.....I believe we should respect the culture of the country we are in and make sure you do not offend. Yesterday in the Bangkok Samui hospital at 10am a very large (obese) Russian was walking around in and out of the Orthapedics section not wearing a shirt; disgusting sight. How many times do you see tourists walking down the street in bikinis and/or speedos.....or in Tescos.....no Thai would ever do this. All he is saying is if you are not swimming or sunbathing please show some RESPECT for the Thai culture and wear modest attire......after all who are the ones expecting visitors/immigrants to respect our culture when in our countries.....double standards perhaps. This is not Ibiza or the Black Sea....it is Thailand which has its own culture.....respect it! Complete tosh! You don't see locals wearing bikinis or speedos walking down the road or in supermarkets anywhere in the world so for the thais to do the same is quite normal. Plenty of places in the US or the UK you'd also get disapproving looks from the people for acting in this way so let's get off this 'thai culture & sensibility' bandwaggon shall we? Plenty of 'respectable' thai girls also wear bikinis at the beach & then cover up a little after sundown. An awful lot will never wear a bikini purely because dark skin is seen as a sign of poverty in this country. This is another blatant attempt to lay the blame elsewhere because the nation as a whole are a childlike people who do not have the ability to take responsibility for their own actions. If you want to talk about thai culture, please get to know it a little better then have a good look around & try to excuse the statement above when there are hundreds of thousands of bikini clad girls dancing on poles up & down the country every night of the week, often topless & naked if the bar owner had paid enough baksheesh to the cops. Thai sensibilities? Please. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanlic Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 No matter how much you were beaten no matter what kind of threats are you going to sit there in silence with your life on the line. So, being held captive by the police and not allowed any contact with the outside world is now known as sitting in silence. It was enforced silence for heavens sake. And the first time they got to speak, they did. I haven't quoted the rest of your post as there is enough nonsense in here already. Nut Kyaw Thaung, a representative of the Myanmar Association in Thailand, who attended the interview with the defendants, said: “They said they bashed the victims two or three times each with the blunt end of a hoe, but not with the sharp end. They said they did it because they were drunk but did not intend to murder the couple.” There's some more nonsense for you straight from the horses mouth. Weren't sitting alone then were they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcm991 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 David was not killed by blows from the blunt end of a hoe or the blunt end of anything else. Please educate yourself on the details of this case before you rush in and try to sound important. There are many sources that clearly indicate the wounds - and blunt trauma is not what killed him. (no matter what the boys say or what the BIB say.) No matter how much you were beaten no matter what kind of threats are you going to sit there in silence with your life on the line. So, being held captive by the police and not allowed any contact with the outside world is now known as sitting in silence. It was enforced silence for heavens sake. And the first time they got to speak, they did. I haven't quoted the rest of your post as there is enough nonsense in here already. Nut Kyaw Thaung, a representative of the Myanmar Association in Thailand, who attended the interview with the defendants, said: “They said they bashed the victims two or three times each with the blunt end of a hoe, but not with the sharp end. They said they did it because they were drunk but did not intend to murder the couple.” There's some more nonsense for you straight from the horses mouth. Weren't sitting alone then were they? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCARLETIBIS1 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 "Tourism police, tour operators and community leaders on Koh Tao yesterday held a meeting over what to do to boost tourist safety and provide better services. The proposals included encouraging tourists to dress properly when not swimming or sunbathing, ask them not to commit intimate acts in public, as well as regulate taxi services and publishing do's and don'ts about Thai |culture on leaflets and in other media." Is Thailand new Saudi arabia?? Koh Tao They might want to include leaflets to all citizens that murdering tourists is probably not a good idea as well just in case some are unaware that murdering tourists is usually a chargable offense in most civilized countries. They might also think about making carring knives and machetes which probably 99% of all cab drivers, red truck drivers and tuk-tuk operators have hidden under their seats an automatic prison offense. Then again, that's pretty much a common sense approach so we're SOL on that as there is no common sense here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedom4life Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 "...encouraging tourists to dress properly when not swimming or sunbathing, ask them not to commit intimate acts in public, as well as regulate taxi services and publishing do's and don'ts about Thai culture on leaflets and in other media." There are two things implied in this comment. The first one about appropriate dress is virtually the same comment Prayuth got caught saying about women wearing bikinis, seeming to imply they brought it on themselves. So even after that controversy you have these idiots saying almost the same thing. The second thing is the comment about falang needing to be more aware of Thai culture. However, it was not Thai people who supposedly killed this British couple, but two men from Myanmar, so how did not respecting Thai culture cause this problem...unless it really was Thai people who killed them...ah! I personally do not see anything wrong with the statement.....I believe we should respect the culture of the country we are in and make sure you do not offend. Yesterday in the Bangkok Samui hospital at 10am a very large (obese) Russian was walking around in and out of the Orthapedics section not wearing a shirt; disgusting sight. How many times do you see tourists walking down the street in bikinis and/or speedos.....or in Tescos.....no Thai would ever do this. All he is saying is if you are not swimming or sunbathing please show some RESPECT for the Thai culture and wear modest attire......after all who are the ones expecting visitors/immigrants to respect our culture when in our countries.....double standards perhaps. This is not Ibiza or the Black Sea....it is Thailand which has its own culture.....respect it! As far as i know we are guests on this country and we should go by the rules and respect.Sometimes we see things that don't make sense but thats the way they are and justice seems to go in doubt. We all know that. Times like this when 2 young guys got murdered very bad is sad. It's always amazing the way they run things but i keep to myself and carry on with my life. "keep to myself and carry on with my life." When I was in my childhood and teen years, I lived like that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max72 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Sorry but thai visa forum is infiltrated by the mafia,that means police and army henchmen. Censorship and people on the payroll of the mafia are here and sabotage constantly this forum. Very disturbing but what can you do against multi millions of dollars Thailand´s system is incurable sick. And no,this is not off topic. This desease of corruption is everywhere and will prevail in this country,its just too deep in the society. Really sad but there is no solution. To install normal society in this country its too late, Too many generations of greed army and police at work already Impossible to repair,its just irreparable Right now, if moderators are forced to censor some comments, it is because the martial law. Otherwise they and the posters can get into trouble. Nobody , except few moroons, like this situation but what can we do ? I agree that Thailand is wholly corrupt till its mellow, a completely rotten society and I woulnd-t bet a cent that this or any junta can minimally improve the siatuation, in fact it can only get worse. Only in a balanced democracy these kind of problems can be solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya46 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Where did you hear this version? If it's not public, can you share a summary? I have a mate that works in Interpol. It's not public, therefore I am not at liberty to say more about it. If that story was true, it would just prove that UK Police is not better than the Thai Police : They both talk way too much about what should stay private during an investigation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanlic Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 (edited) David was not killed by blows from the blunt end of a hoe or the blunt end of anything else. Please educate yourself on the details of this case before you rush in and try to sound important. There are many sources that clearly indicate the wounds - and blunt trauma is not what killed him. (no matter what the boys say or what the BIB say.) Were you looking in the mirror when you made that statement about trying to sound important?.... The died because of the attackers actions and I am educated enough to know that much. I really don't see what the point of you bringing up the sordid details, other than you yourself think you're a smarta$$ Edited October 21, 2014 by Tanlic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcm991 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 You don't see the point that the confession could not possibly reflect the crime? Never mind......... important things to do.....I have to rearrange my sock drawer now. David was not killed by blows from the blunt end of a hoe or the blunt end of anything else. Please educate yourself on the details of this case before you rush in and try to sound important. There are many sources that clearly indicate the wounds - and blunt trauma is not what killed him. (no matter what the boys say or what the BIB say.) Were you looking in the mirror when you made that statement about trying to sound important?.... The died because of the attackers actions and I am educated enough to know that much. I really don't see what the point of you bringing up the sordid details, other than you yourself think you're a smarta$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retsdon Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 No matter how much you were beaten no matter what kind of threats are you going to sit there in silence with your life on the line. If you guys want to believe that these 2 were privately tutored in what they had to do when reinacting the crime then you are dumb. They knew how the murders were committed, what weapon was used, where theygot it, how many blows were struck and went through te entire act without hesitation Not one of them but both stayed silent because they were scared they would get another beating? Never mind if found guilty the death penalty awaits them. Not a peep out of either of them but then along come their lawyers and suddenly "We were beaten" Of course their lawyers ...lets call them Snow White and the Seven dwarfs would never advise their client to lie so the must be innocent. Case closed let them go because all you would be detectives on Thai visa say so In the civilized world, uncorroborated confessions have been inadmissible as evidence for more than a hundred years. Why is that do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retsdon Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 You don't see the point that the confession could not possibly reflect the crime? Never mind......... important things to do.....I have to rearrange my sock drawer now. David was not killed by blows from the blunt end of a hoe or the blunt end of anything else. Please educate yourself on the details of this case before you rush in and try to sound important. There are many sources that clearly indicate the wounds - and blunt trauma is not what killed him. (no matter what the boys say or what the BIB say.) Were you looking in the mirror when you made that statement about trying to sound important?.... The died because of the attackers actions and I am educated enough to know that much. I really don't see what the point of you bringing up the sordid details, other than you yourself think you're a smarta$$ The sordid details are actually quite pertinent. For me, the most sordid and most pertinent detail was the position of Hannah's body. Nobody dies in that position. Her body was moved after death in a deliberate attempt to humiliate the corpse. That doesn't fit with the police narrative at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcirtapyelrah Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Innocent or not, they will be found guilty of this crime. Time will reveal all, all the bad thing will keep accumulating and eventually the truth will be known. it's true a lot of people do forget given time, but most do not. If justice is not done the bbc or some other body will investigate this eventually and whatever happens it will always be remembered and will always be a bad reflection on thailand. I'm proud of everyone on this forum who are fighting for truth and justice in this case, you should all be commended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoristheBlade Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Thank you, but this bullsh@t, they were killed on the beach.....but Scotland Yard will I am sure be taking a firm interest in the Nomsod Family affairs. So anybody think this could be more like the truth? A massage from Koh Tao Burmese community First of all, Thanks a million to CSI LA and fellow Thai friends for standing up for the Justice. Some Burmese people in Koh Tao whispered that the murder was not happened on the beach, it was happened in the guest house where British couple were staying. According to them, Nomsod and his fellow gangsters have harassed and molested the British girl in AC Bar and got fight with the girl, when the British girl has gone back to the guest house after fight, they followed and killed the boyfriend, raped the girl and killed her too. Altogether 5 people, Nomsod and 4 Thai Gangsters (one of them was rumored as a Thai policeman) who worked for his father were involved in the murder. After the murder, they carried the bodies to the beach which is 50 meters away from the guest house, staged as a couple were having sex on the beach and killed on the beach. Two Burmese boys accused were also workers of one of Nomsod's father's businesses on the island, and they were playing a guitar on the beach when Nomsod and his gangsters carrying bodies, and Burmese workers were also asked to helped them carry the bodies too. Two Burmese have to do it because they scared of Nomsod and his gang and his father too. Which mean their DNA can be found on the bodies too. Which make them a perfect scapegoats. The whole Koh Tao community knows about what really happened that night but everybody were scared of Nomsod's family and their gangsters and also the police thus nobody dare to speak out, Koh Tao Burmese were saying its not a secret that Nomsod family is making millions of bath for Thai police every month from many different illegal businesses on the island, and this case too, there was also a rumor that every Thai policeman involved in this case were already bribed handsomely by the Nomsod family. The whole point of a message is to inform the Scotland Yard Police to focus on Nomsad and his thugs, AC Bar, Guest House, Sperm DNA inside the British Girl's womb and find a match. Not to trust on the 'murdered on the beach' fairy tale and tempered evidences and CCTVs on the whole island that are under the Nomsod's family influence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcirtapyelrah Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Sorry but thai visa forum is infiltrated by the mafia,that means police and army henchmen. Censorship and people on the payroll of the mafia are here and sabotage constantly this forum. Very disturbing but what can you do against multi millions of dollars Thailand´s system is incurable sick. And no,this is not off topic. This desease of corruption is everywhere and will prevail in this country,its just too deep in the society. Really sad but there is no solution. To install normal society in this country its too late, Too many generations of greed army and police at work already Impossible to repair,its just irreparable Sorry, what's the name of that weed again you're smoking? That sounds defeatist, don't encourage them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoristheBlade Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Have the Nomsad family been charged with illigally employing the Burmese accused as yet? I thought employing illegal immigrants was a criminal offence in Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 No matter how much you were beaten no matter what kind of threats are you going to sit there in silence with your life on the line. So, being held captive by the police and not allowed any contact with the outside world is now known as sitting in silence. It was enforced silence for heavens sake. And the first time they got to speak, they did. I haven't quoted the rest of your post as there is enough nonsense in here already. Nut Kyaw Thaung, a representative of the Myanmar Association in Thailand, who attended the interview with the defendants, said: “They said they bashed the victims two or three times each with the blunt end of a hoe, but not with the sharp end. They said they did it because they were drunk but did not intend to murder the couple.” There's some more nonsense for you straight from the horses mouth. Weren't sitting alone then were they? No,they were not, I'm quite sure there were more than three people in the room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre0720 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Sorry but thai visa forum is infiltrated by the mafia,that means police and army henchmen. Censorship and people on the payroll of the mafia are here and sabotage constantly this forum. Very disturbing but what can you do against multi millions of dollars Thailand´s system is incurable sick. And no,this is not off topic. This desease of corruption is everywhere and will prevail in this country,its just too deep in the society. Really sad but there is no solution. To install normal society in this country its too late, Too many generations of greed army and police at work already Impossible to repair,its just irreparable So you never did watch Serpico??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hisseho Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Time will reveal all, all the bad thing will keep accumulating and eventually the truth will be known. it's true a lot of people do forget given time, but most do not. If justice is not done the bbc or some other body will investigate this eventually and whatever happens it will always be remembered and will always be a bad reflection on thailand. I'm proud of everyone on this forum who are fighting for truth and justice in this case, you should all be commended. Time will reveal all, all the bad thing will keep accumulating and eventually the truth will be known - Yes! and whatever happens it will always be remembered and will always be a bad reflection on thailand. - Error. If the guilt of two Burmese proved what I believe, shame will be on Great Britain and its haughty and contemptuous expatriates. Also we can say that internet petitions are meaningless and too often the result of sedentary idle in lack of sensation. And finally, Thai Visa and 99% of its British members will come out not grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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