Popular Post ozsamurai Posted October 28, 2014 Popular Post Posted October 28, 2014 SO let me see... this guy is high or drunk or both, decides to ride a motorbike on the beach, gets stuck in the sand, up till now pretty believable. Now here's the dodgy bit, a group of THAI's try to help?? (not sit around and laugh), then from a clean beach (see photo) the victim finds a huge stick??? where?? and swings on a bunch not one guy in a half hearted manner (remember he is drunk and or high), so poorly that the Thai guy was able to not only get the stick off of him, but then able to smash him so hard in the head that it puts him into a coma, bleeding all over the beach, and then they walk away to leave him to die. Sounds about right for a Thai. Gang, beating, run away! Oz 7
Equalizer Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 Why do these dunderhead local sims always come up with the most preposterous excuse possible? It is true that those with a minimal IQ assume that everyone else is a dim as they are. I find the excuse 'I approached him to help, he was afraid of being robbed and tried to hit me so in stead I hit him' very believable. Even more so when the guy was high on something, which seems very likely. The picture itself is compelling evidence the beach is not littered with convenient pieces of drift wood don't you agree? i mean we have over 50 sqr meters in this picture with not a twig in sight, so i and most people on here can safely assume the beach i pretty much void of wood. Now would you not agree long pieces of wood are part of a shallow water fishing net set up? I doooooooo 1
Popular Post steelepulse Posted October 28, 2014 Popular Post Posted October 28, 2014 I was trying to figure out why this kid turned himself in, then I read that siam247 link and it was due to him being caught on cctv cameras, not out of the goodness of his heart, remorse, or feelings of guilt. Local guy talked to his parents to turn himself in. Story makes much more sense to me now that we know the cops were onto him. 6
Suffinator Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 thailand makes me more despondent by the day ..I have wasted so much of my life here putting up with so much garbage in this place..it gets worse by the day I really am starting to hate this place So what would it take for you to leave? I have to admit I came to the conclusion that Thailand isn't a place for Foreigners or Tourists and so did the only sensible thing... I left and I can tell you I feel all the better for it. 1
SOTIRIOS Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 ...always some bullsh*t excuse or justification to <deleted> a foreigner..... ...Example:..'he would not stop singing'.........etc..etc.etc..... ....the foreigner was outnumbered anyway.... ...and for good measure.....suggest he was drunk too.......
MW72 Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 Why would he voluntarily hand himself in to the police? If it was an opportunist crime I don't think he would have done that. Probably did happen like he said. Maybe he had the bit of wood in the first place and used it when the victim got aggressive. Who knows. Sent from my KFTT using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 1
playbgnow Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 This is not reporting, this is propaganda. 1
Popular Post stevenl Posted October 28, 2014 Popular Post Posted October 28, 2014 Sorry, I forgot, this is the TVF, so the foreigner, in this case even a farang, must be the totally blameless victim of a crime by the evil Thai men and be defended at all cost. 5
Popular Post ChoakMyDee Posted October 28, 2014 Popular Post Posted October 28, 2014 Sorry, I forgot, this is the TVF, so the foreigner, in this case even a farang, must be the totally blameless victim of a crime by the evil Thai men. Why is it every time I open a thread on TV I see you trolling it? 5
oneday Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 Actually, and I can't believe I'm saying this, this story rings true to me. I think it is entirely believable that a young falang with pockets full of drugs would get the wrong idea and go on the attach. There really are good Thai people who try to help even falang when in trouble. 2
stevenl Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 Sorry, I forgot, this is the TVF, so the foreigner, in this case even a farang, must be the totally blameless victim of a crime by the evil Thai men. Why is it every time I open a thread on TV I see you trolling it? Please put me on your ignore list, so you will always only here the evil Thai story. 2
IamNoone88 Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 Its a natural reaction. Every-time I walk on the beach I often pick up a stick to defend myself against the locals who I presume are there to beat me ………. what a load of cock - how these people concoct such stories is beyond me. Little bastard will be out on bail soon I expect. 2
nycjoe Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 Life is what you make it, I love it here in chiang mai and I am surrounded by great friends and doing great stuff. 2
Equalizer Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 Sorry, I forgot, this is the TVF, so the foreigner, in this case even a farang, must be the totally blameless victim of a crime by the evil Thai men and be defended at all cost. Clutching at straws mate.
stevenl Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 Sorry, I forgot, this is the TVF, so the foreigner, in this case even a farang, must be the totally blameless victim of a crime by the evil Thai men and be defended at all cost. Clutching at straws mate. With what?
soalbundy Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 Can anyone else smell bullshit? An independent drug test of the American's blood would be interesting. It would either strengthen, or seriously weaken, their drug possession case. why ? you don't have to use it to sell it. This man was obviously not the quality tourist that Thailand was hoping for. I believe the Thai man,why else would he turn himself in, it was dark, no witnesses the likely hood of him getting caught was slim to zero. 1
soalbundy Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 Life is what you make it, I love it here in chiang mai and I am surrounded by great friends and doing great stuff. pissed every night at a girly bar in Loi Kroh 1
soalbundy Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 thailand makes me more despondent by the day ..I have wasted so much of my life here putting up with so much garbage in this place..it gets worse by the day I really am starting to hate this place So what would it take for you to leave? I have to admit I came to the conclusion that Thailand isn't a place for Foreigners or Tourists and so did the only sensible thing... I left and I can tell you I feel all the better for it. I don't even know you and i feel better as well 2
Equalizer Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 Sorry, I forgot, this is the TVF, so the foreigner, in this case even a farang, must be the totally blameless victim of a crime by the evil Thai men and be defended at all cost. Clutching at straws mate. With what? OK so lets look at what we can make out from this picture. The foreigner got stuck in the sand so Kitti and his relatives went to help him get out of the sand. Well yes we can see the bike is stuck in the sand however can any of you see any other convenient pieces of wood at all in this picture? I would say this picture covers an area of 50 sqr meters and not even another twig in sight. The foreigner, presumably leaping to the conclusion that he was about to be robbed, grabbed a piece of wood and tried to hit Kitti with it. Hmmm sorry not for me old chaps, complete fabrication. The piece of wood in question had to be part of the tools needs for holding fishing nets and thus we can safely assume that it was indeed the Thai who brought the wood to the scene. This could have been used to try and free the bike from the sand however in this scenario why would the Thai lad twist the story? Simple he is guilty of assault and his advisers who told him to use this story are as thick as two short planks. 2
Yahooka Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 Its a natural reaction. Every-time I walk on the beach I often pick up a stick to defend myself against the locals who I presume are there to beat me ………. what a load of cock - how these people concoct such stories is beyond me. Little bastard will be out on bail soon I expect. Not likely, he would still have a problem regarding the drugs in his possession 1
NamKangMan Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 It's possible the group of young Thai guys did go to help the foreigner get his bike out of the sand, then, in true Thai style, asked for payment. An argument may then have ensued about money, resulting in the physical altercation. 2
godden Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 I rekon the yank will only serve 5 years with good behaviour
Popular Post spareword Posted October 28, 2014 Popular Post Posted October 28, 2014 Sorry, I forgot, this is the TVF, so the foreigner, in this case even a farang, must be the totally blameless victim of a crime by the evil Thai men and be defended at all cost. Don't be ignorant. The foreigners view is always the last view to be fairly shared in Thailand. TVF is an open platform for just that. The reason the views are often pro-foreigners and reflect negatively against Thais, is because almost 100% of Thai media outlets do the exact same thing to non-Thais - and it's bullshit. Thai prosecution is almost always in favour of the locals. Foreigners are almost always portrayed as over-weight, beer guzzling, whore mongers. Is it true... sometimes , but I digress. What you read here isn't about the "evil Thai men", it's about shedding light on the 'mysterious' crimes against foreigners that so often come up, but the evidence rarely equates. Furthermore, there is never any investigative journalism to find the hard truth. Honest and efficient policing would solve many of the frustrations expressed on this forum. Unfortunately, policing in Thailand, more often than not, proves to be corrupt - and has nothing to do with honest efficiency. 7
stevenl Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 OK so lets look at what we can make out from this picture. The foreigner got stuck in the sand so Kitti and his relatives went to help him get out of the sand. Well yes we can see the bike is stuck in the sand however can any of you see any other convenient pieces of wood at all in this picture? I would say this picture covers an area of 50 sqr meters and not even another twig in sight. The foreigner, presumably leaping to the conclusion that he was about to be robbed, grabbed a piece of wood and tried to hit Kitti with it. Hmmm sorry not for me old chaps, complete fabrication. The piece of wood in question had to be part of the tools needs for holding fishing nets and thus we can safely assume that it was indeed the Thai who brought the wood to the scene. This could have been used to try and free the bike from the sand however in this scenario why would the Thai lad twist the story? Simple he is guilty of assault and his advisers who told him to use this story are as thick as two short planks. Sure he could be guilty of assault, but his explanation is very plausible. I don't know what happened, and am not drawing any conclusions of what happened like many are here, in spite of a lack of knowledge of the beach or a photo. I can go to that piece of sand now, be back behind my computer in 10 minutes, and take a few pieces of wood from that stretch of the beach that are easily big enough to bash his head in.
lust Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 I cant see thai people putting drugs into his pocket. they would want for themselves. also why was the motorcycle not stolen? 1
ChoakMyDee Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 Sorry, I forgot, this is the TVF, so the foreigner, in this case even a farang, must be the totally blameless victim of a crime by the evil Thai men and be defended at all cost. Clutching at straws mate. Don't feed the trolls. They love the attention.
stevenl Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 Sorry, I forgot, this is the TVF, so the foreigner, in this case even a farang, must be the totally blameless victim of a crime by the evil Thai men and be defended at all cost. Don't be ignorant. The foreigners view is always the last view to be fairly shared in Thailand. TVF is an open platform for just that. The reason the views are often pro-foreigners and reflect negatively against Thais, is because almost 100% of Thai media outlets do the exact same thing to non-Thais - and it's bullshit. Thai prosecution is almost always in favour of the locals. Foreigners are almost always portrayed as over-weight, beer guzzling, whore mongers. Is it true... sometimes , but I digress. What you read here isn't about the "evil Thai men", it's about shedding light on the 'mysterious' crimes against foreigners that so often come up, but the evidence rarely equates. Furthermore, there is never any investigative journalism to find the hard truth. Honest and efficient policing would solve many of the frustrations expressed on this forum. Unfortunately, policing in Thailand, more often than not, proves to be corrupt - and has nothing to do with honest efficiency. I disagree regarding 'the foreigners view is the last view to be fairly shared', I disagree that TVF is a platform just for that, I disagree with the reasons the views are pro foreigners and I disagree with the rest of your post except for the quality of the journalism here and the complete lack of investigative journalism.
ozsamurai Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> OK so lets look at what we can make out from this picture. The foreigner got stuck in the sand so Kitti and his relatives went to help him get out of the sand. Well yes we can see the bike is stuck in the sand however can any of you see any other convenient pieces of wood at all in this picture? I would say this picture covers an area of 50 sqr meters and not even another twig in sight. The foreigner, presumably leaping to the conclusion that he was about to be robbed, grabbed a piece of wood and tried to hit Kitti with it. Hmmm sorry not for me old chaps, complete fabrication. The piece of wood in question had to be part of the tools needs for holding fishing nets and thus we can safely assume that it was indeed the Thai who brought the wood to the scene. This could have been used to try and free the bike from the sand however in this scenario why would the Thai lad twist the story? Simple he is guilty of assault and his advisers who told him to use this story are as thick as two short planks. Sure he could be guilty of assault, but his explanation is very plausible. I don't know what happened, and am not drawing any conclusions of what happened like many are here, in spite of a lack of knowledge of the beach or a photo. I can go to that piece of sand now, be back behind my computer in 10 minutes, and take a few pieces of wood from that stretch of the beach that are easily big enough to bash his head in. Off you go then, waiting for the pics as well, see you in 10.... Oz 2
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