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The army is always at a disadvantage because the government flounders around so much. A shoot to kill policy should be enforced in a 20km buffer zone along the border. Troop numbers should be increased in the buffer zone. An Isreali type security fence built and increased coastal patrols. Anyone in Thailand who wishes to leave should be allowed to. After a certain date anyone in Thailand who commits terrorist acts, supports terrorists or fails to identify terrorists should be terminated.

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The army is always at a disadvantage because the government flounders around so much. A shoot to kill policy should be enforced in a 20km buffer zone along the border. Troop numbers should be increased in the buffer zone. An Isreali type security fence built and increased coastal patrols. Anyone in Thailand who wishes to leave should be allowed to. After a certain date anyone in Thailand who commits terrorist acts, supports terrorists or fails to identify terrorists should be terminated.

Regardless of strength the army will always be at a disadvantage whenever they are enforcing a religiously-biased or any other morally compromised government policy.

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The army is always at a disadvantage because the government flounders around so much. A shoot to kill policy should be enforced in a 20km buffer zone along the border. Troop numbers should be increased in the buffer zone. An Isreali type security fence built and increased coastal patrols. Anyone in Thailand who wishes to leave should be allowed to. After a certain date anyone in Thailand who commits terrorist acts, supports terrorists or fails to identify terrorists should be terminated.

Bad idea. You'd have suicide bombers paralyzing Bangkok.

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Wow the signal to noise ratio of this editorial is exceptionally good, I straight the point, factual and crystal clear. It would appear that the media found some balls, may they find them more often.

I half expect yet another initiative to tighten the media up further if continued swipes are made at the government and its agents. But to be speaking truth and making well balanced arguments, should be defended and not silenced and it will be yet another moment where Thailand makes the wrong step and everyone now watching will be there.

The lack of improvement in the deep south is stunning, anyone familiar with the whole history know what the government has conceeded if anything to this region. Or is it still centrally administrated us and them Thainess all the way>?

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While the Army and police have made mistakes it cant be easy to deal with people who use something that happened 10 years ago as an excuse for indiscriminate bombing, shooting and burning.

You have to remember that many of those targeted have been teachers and health workers of all faiths who have only been doing their best to help people. Others have been bombs planted in markets and other places with the intention of indiscriminately killing and maiming as many people as possible.

We have seen when one of them has been killed in a shootout with the police or army that were trying to arrest them they come back and attack and kill someone completely unrelated and call it revenge for one of theirs being killed.

People who would do these things and hide behind some agenda are in fact nothing less than brutal murderers and need to be treated as such.

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The army is always at a disadvantage because the government flounders around so much. A shoot to kill policy should be enforced in a 20km buffer zone along the border. Troop numbers should be increased in the buffer zone. An Isreali type security fence built and increased coastal patrols. Anyone in Thailand who wishes to leave should be allowed to. After a certain date anyone in Thailand who commits terrorist acts, supports terrorists or fails to identify terrorists should be terminated.

Ya dem damn terroristas are everywhere ain't they. It's the favorite term of the fear mongers. All part of the march to a global Orwellian state. Led by USA and the Brits.

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The army is always at a disadvantage because the government flounders around so much. A shoot to kill policy should be enforced in a 20km buffer zone along the border. Troop numbers should be increased in the buffer zone. An Isreali type security fence built and increased coastal patrols. Anyone in Thailand who wishes to leave should be allowed to. After a certain date anyone in Thailand who commits terrorist acts, supports terrorists or fails to identify terrorists should be terminated.

Go run your dictatorship elsewhere. Are you a security expert with specialist skills around the problems in South Thailand ? I suspect not & feel you should be terminated before some idiot takes up your idea.... "fails to identify terrorist should be terminated' Lets hope someone holds a gun to your family so you can understand how grassing up terrorists is very bad for ones & ones families health.

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The thing is, there's a hidden ideological component to this that can't be openly addressed. After the Revolution of 1932, Colonel (later Field Marshall) Plaek Phibulsongkhram appointed a "cultural minister" whose name I don't recall at the moment. This minister was responsible for various "cultural decrees," like ordering people to wear shoes and socks, men to kiss their wives goodbye in the morning before going to work, etc. He was responsible for various plays, newspaper articles, and movies that glorified militaristic nationalism. Many of the ideas actually derived from the historical need for the Thai kings to unify the country under a central government, with a common language, common subjects in the schools, common ritual in the temples, etc., but taken to an extreme on the Japanese model from the 1930s. One of the important topics was the need to "recover the lost lands." In maneuvering to prevent the French and English from actually invading Siam, the kings had conceded areas formerly considered Thai to the British and especially to the French. The kingdom of Viang Chan (French spelling: Vientiane), had been considered tributary to Bangkok, but the French claimed it as part of Laos. Similarly with Cambodia. In addition, there was a very virulent campaign against "foreign" influences, which promoted the theme, "To be Thai, you must be Buddhist." This became ingrained in the Army, and I think still exerts strong influence to this day. I don't know any high ranking military officers, so I can't ask them about it, and they may not even be consciously aware that this old attitude influences them, but I believe it's there and is an important reason they can't make progress.

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The army is always at a disadvantage because the government flounders around so much. A shoot to kill policy should be enforced in a 20km buffer zone along the border. Troop numbers should be increased in the buffer zone. An Isreali type security fence built and increased coastal patrols. Anyone in Thailand who wishes to leave should be allowed to. After a certain date anyone in Thailand who commits terrorist acts, supports terrorists or fails to identify terrorists should be terminated.

So you're proposing a return to the anti-Communist tactics initiated by Sarit and used until Prem became Prime Minister and finally solved the insurgency problem? May I point out that they didn't work then. I think they need to go back and re-read the order Prem sent to Gen. Chawalit and think about how to implement that in today's environment. One problem with that is that the Communists had a centralized organization, and the current rebels seem not to.

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The "Tung Yang Daeng model" is just the recreation of the FAILED USA’s pacification of Vietnam villages in the late 1960's to win the "hearts and minds" of the South Vietnamese villagers through establishment of security zones. Or as the Marine's slogan called it, "Get 'em by the balls and their hearts and minds will follow."

What both programs fail to realize is that villagers did not share the military's sense of culture, religion, and ethnicity. The US military focused primarily on village security while ignoring the insurgents who were an integral part of the village dynamics. In South Thailand, this disparity is even greater than that between the South and North Vietnamese as the Muslim Thais do not have a common sense of the Buddhist religion, the Siam Kingdom, Thai social behavior, or even ethnic make-up (ie., Thai tribal origins) as the rest of the Thai nation.

The Thai military is essentially acting as a foreign military occupation to force political indoctrination of the South through the mere force of its presence. What is needed are social, economic, and diplomatic solutions that seem beyond the understanding of the Thai military as evidenced by the 10+ years of insurgency in the South that seems to be growing in violence out of frustration with little or no progress at the peace table where the military sets inflexible pre-conditions.

“Peace in our time” doesn’t seem very near for Southern Thailand.

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The thing is, there's a hidden ideological component to this that can't be openly addressed. After the Revolution of 1932, Colonel (later Field Marshall) Plaek Phibulsongkhram appointed a "cultural minister" whose name I don't recall at the moment. This minister was responsible for various "cultural decrees," like ordering people to wear shoes and socks, men to kiss their wives goodbye in the morning before going to work, etc. He was responsible for various plays, newspaper articles, and movies that glorified militaristic nationalism. Many of the ideas actually derived from the historical need for the Thai kings to unify the country under a central government, with a common language, common subjects in the schools, common ritual in the temples, etc., but taken to an extreme on the Japanese model from the 1930s. One of the important topics was the need to "recover the lost lands." In maneuvering to prevent the French and English from actually invading Siam, the kings had conceded areas formerly considered Thai to the British and especially to the French. The kingdom of Viang Chan (French spelling: Vientiane), had been considered tributary to Bangkok, but the French claimed it as part of Laos. Similarly with Cambodia. In addition, there was a very virulent campaign against "foreign" influences, which promoted the theme, "To be Thai, you must be Buddhist." This became ingrained in the Army, and I think still exerts strong influence to this day. I don't know any high ranking military officers, so I can't ask them about it, and they may not even be consciously aware that this old attitude influences them, but I believe it's there and is an important reason they can't make progress.

Thailand’s national identity is predicated on the pillars of Nation, Religion and King as represented by the Thai Flag.

Have a read of a Thai miliary officers' analysis (2012) of the conflict at:

http://www.defence.gov.au/adc/docs/Publications2012/SheddenPapers12_120306_ConflictinThailand_Nurakkate.pdf

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