Growing avocado in Thailand

[Chook]

Hi growing from seeds can take 15 years if at all The only safe place to bye grafted trees is from Aust BUT they are very expensive Next month I hope to go to Korat to try & find them there

Kindness chook

[fruitman]

Yes grafted avocado in thailand is expensive, also all other rare tree's are expensive....even a big leelawadee costs 20-30k baht in bkk.

But it is possible to grow avocado from seed and have fruit within 3-5 years. Plenty of evidence on internet. Indonesian vendors also sell them, they fruit several t imes a year.

[DumbFalang]

I am currently grafting and will have plenty of Avocado trees for sale in the next month or two. Some are from a 20+ year old tree that I have just taken over but as this year was the first time it hasn't fruited due to the crazy heat, I am not sure if it is Peterson or Buccaneer. The price will be Bt600 plus shipping. The others are regular Haas at Bt750.

One thing that I set out to find this year was how many metres above sea level an Avocado tree needs to be in order to fruit without grafting. I have been up and down many mountains around Chiang Mai searching for trees and talking to owners and last week a local Avocado grafter confirmed my conclusion that you need to be above 500 metres.

I have just acquired some land at 500m so I'm taking my experiment a step further. I am planting some 'ungrafted', some top grafted and some side grafted. The side grafted ones will be of particular interest by observing whether the main tree fruits for the first time in the same year as the grafted branch. Let's hope we all live long enough to find out the results ;-)

[carlyai]

I am currently grafting and will have plenty of Avocado trees for sale in the next month or two. Some are from a 20+ year old tree that I have just taken over but as this year was the first time it hasn't fruited due to the crazy heat, I am not sure if it is Peterson or Buccaneer. The price will be Bt600 plus shipping. The others are regular Haas at Bt750.

One thing that I set out to find this year was how many metres above sea level an Avocado tree needs to be in order to fruit without grafting. I have been up and down many mountains around Chiang Mai searching for trees and talking to owners and last week a local Avocado grafter confirmed my conclusion that you need to be above 500 metres.

I have just acquired some land at 500m so I'm taking my experiment a step further. I am planting some 'ungrafted', some top grafted and some side grafted. The side grafted ones will be of particular interest by observing whether the main tree fruits for the first time in the same year as the grafted branch. Let's hope we all live long enough to find out the results ;-)

[carlyai]

Hello DumbFarang.

Me too.

I live in Isaan where it's hot, cold and very windy (at different times of the year).

I would like to buy some of your trees, but will they survive where I live?

If so, I could drive up to your place to pick the trees up, but I have a Honda SUV and not sure 5 trees would fit in.

Any ideas?

[Chook]

Hi DumbFarang

Thanks for all the hard work you have done with Avos

Where abouts are you & can you please give me a call on 0874463665

I live near Surin in Nth/Est Thailand

Kindness

chook

[carlyai]

Hi DumbFarang

Thanks for all the hard work you have done with Avos

Where abouts are you & can you please give me a call on 0874463665

I live near Surin in Nth/Est Thailand

Kindness

chook

[carlyai]

Hi Chook.

U still planning on the trip to Korat?

It's about 300km for me but i may go too and meet you there and have a look at the advacados.

I only need a few as not much space.

[Chook]

Hi Carlyai

It is not high on my 2 do list as of now but I will talk with the boss but I was thinking around Sep/Oct pluss I need to do some reserch on the address in Korat first

You have my PH NO in my last post so give me a call to talk about it

Kindness

chook

[DumbFalang]

Guys, I am in Samoeng, Chiang Mai. I have some older trees in Sakon Nakorn but they have already been planted in the ground. Let me check how many there are and get back to you. You'd need to dig them up yourselves if that's OK? Not a big deal in rainy season ;-)

Edited July 28, 2016 by DumbFalang

[cobbler]

We bought over 100 grafted avocado trees from inbetween petchborn and sukhothai,. In the mountains on the side of the highway.fairly close to petchaborn. They were cheap. Thats why we bought so many.its a real avocado growing area.

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[KonaRain]

Close to Your altitude? tho I'm told plants do adapt pretty well.
Alohz

[KonaRain]

One thing that I set out to find this year was how many metres above sea level an Avocado tree needs to be in order to fruit without grafting. I have been up and down many mountains around Chiang Mai searching for trees and talking to owners and last week a local Avocado grafter confirmed my conclusion that you need to be above 500 metres.

I don't think you 'need' altitude, everything seems to do better, at same latitude, in Hawaii, but we have cooler breezes, I live at 4,000 ft, some beat without grafting, but it's hit or miss.. grafting is the key for consistency.. Aloha

[JungleBiker]

On 8 July 2016 at 0:02 AM, fruitman said:

A while ago i found a vendor who had "Mackel Madamia" avocadotree's for sale, grafted. She said it was a variety from Africa which she imported.

Has anybody ever heard of something like that?

I bought one because it's very hard to find grafted avocadotree's in Thailand and it grows fast. Also she sold me a pinkerton avocadotree.

 

 

"Mackel Madamia" .... That sounds like a Thai way of mispronouncing "macadamia". Are you sure you bought an avocado tree? If you could post a photo of the leaves, it should be easy to tell. 

 

[fruitman]

1 hour ago, JungleBiker said:

 

"Mackel Madamia" .... That sounds like a Thai way of mispronouncing "macadamia". Are you sure you bought an avocado tree? If you could post a photo of the leaves, it should be easy to tell. 

 

 

You have to be a very good avocadoexpert to tell the variety from the leaves.

 

I googled for that name last year and found info about a lady in South Africa with that name and she had an avocado farm. No idea how it ended up here but i bought it at the thailand mega show in impact muang thong last year, that show is also going on right now.

 

I'm sure it's an avocadotree, even grafted it on my cocktail avocadotree and grows well.

 

 

[JungleBiker]

10 hours ago, fruitman said:

 

You have to be a very good avocadoexpert to tell the variety from the leaves.

 

 

 

Yes, I meant look at a photo to see if it is a macadamia or avocado, not which variety of avocado.

 

Anyhow, you've confirmed it's an avocado. Strange name for the variety! 

[fruitman]

2 hours ago, JungleBiker said:

 

Yes, I meant look at a photo to see if it is a macadamia or avocado, not which variety of avocado.

 

Anyhow, you've confirmed it's an avocado. Strange name for the variety! 

 

I have loads of fruittree's and the issue in Thailand is that they never know variety names. Especially for avocado they call everything just avocado and have no idea at all that there are thousands of different varieties.

 

This one was called mackel madamia, i even let the vendor write it down on the stick , she tried to show me a website on her phone about them but couldn't find it fast enough...anyway i bought it like i always do. Big chance i 'll never see it again for sale. There must be plenty of varieties which can fruit well in Thailand (even in BKK) but you just have to be able to buy/find them.

 

In Indonesia they have avocadotree's which fruit several times a year. Wished i had one of those, a grafted tree that is.

[KonaRain]

The farmers in Hawaii graft for consistency. No time wasted..

[WatUp]

On 1/10/2017 at 5:36 AM, KonaRain said:

The farmers in Hawaii graft for consistency. No time wasted..

Hey Kona,

Do you have a hookup in Hawaii for Sharwil grafts and other Hawaiian varieties? 

[soidog2]

Should be able to find some here: http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=5fe5da322d0419929acbe7b1a8e73c75&board=2.0

or here http://www.fruitlovers.com/Scions.html

 

 

Edited January 11, 2017 by soidog2

[KonaRain]

I guess that covers it..
Sharwil is pretty rich, not watery with a tiny seed. Done through old fashioned hybrid..
Da best!

[KonaRain]

Fruitlovers, nice page.. I was growing a loquat from seed, and now see that I might graft the rootstock.. Thanks guys..
Alohz

[KonaRain]

Not bad, smoothie but I would use triple black soymilk, or make your own Cashew milk Avacado smoothie. In Brazil they call Avacado smoothie Vida!

[carlyai]

Hi Chook

How did you go in getting your advacados?

I'm out of country now and be back in a few weeks.

I'll get in touch.

I still want to get some and plant them and see how they go in Isaan.

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[oldcarguy]

Here is the California website ,  hopefully it helps

 

http://www.californiaavocado.com/how-tos/avocado-varieties.aspx

 

I have a 30 ft tall , 50 year old tree in my front yard  in Los angeles ,

 

OHH and its a Fuerte  avocado  tree

[WatUp]

On 1/11/2017 at 8:32 PM, soidog2 said:

Should be able to find some here: http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=5fe5da322d0419929acbe7b1a8e73c75&board=2.0

or here http://www.fruitlovers.com/Scions.html

 

 

Thanks SD!

 

[djayz]

On Tuesday, November 04, 2014 at 10:52 AM, nickcar said:

I have been growing avaocados in Nakhon Nayok using this information. Grafted tress puchased from pak chong. They have been growing fine and i use the info from the same document you quote. Earlier this year ate my first avacadoes from the trees after less than 3 years. (Only 4 fruits)

Hi Nickar! I've only now started reading this thread from beginning to end and came across your contribution. 

Back then, in Nov. 2014, you said you purchased grafted avocados from Pak Chong. May I ask

1) what avocados did you get from them? Hass by any chance? 

2) What's the fruit like? And 

3) Would you mind posting the tel. number of the place in Pak Chong? 

Thanking you in advance. 

 

 

[nickcar]

On 14/01/2017 at 4:21 PM, djayz said:

Hi Nickar! I've only now started reading this thread from beginning to end and came across your contribution. 

Back then, in Nov. 2014, you said you purchased grafted avocados from Pak Chong. May I ask

1) what avocados did you get from them? Hass by any chance? 

2) What's the fruit like? And 

3) Would you mind posting the tel. number of the place in Pak Chong? 

Thanking you in advance. 

 

 

1- peterson and Booth7

2- i still have had little fruit, 2-4 per year. They say it is too hot here. What i have had is very good. (I am also a bit lazy looking after the trees)

3     044 311 796

 

cheers

nick

[djayz]

4 minutes ago, nickcar said:

1- peterson and Booth7

2- i still have had little fruit, 2-4 per year. They say it is too hot here. What i have had is very good. (I am also a bit lazy looking after the trees)

3     044 311 796

 

cheers

nick

Thank you very much Nick. Much appreciate it. 

[fruitman]

9 hours ago, nickcar said:

1- peterson and Booth7

2- i still have had little fruit, 2-4 per year. They say it is too hot here. What i have had is very good. (I am also a bit lazy looking after the trees)

3     044 311 796

 

cheers

nick

 

I thought booth7 is a west-indian avocado so can fruit all over thailand.

 

But i have a big tree of it and it still didn't fruit, never, not even bloom. And it's a grafted tree.

 

After how many years should a grafted cado bloom in Thailand? I'm already thinking of replacing it.