With everyone having a Uni BA degree does having a Masters degee help getting a better job ?

[thailiketoo]

Deer and duck hunting every year and we had a cabin in the woods.

Yes a real man. Hope you didn't puke when he was chopping the deer.

Worked my way through college as a butcher among other jobs. Although the only venison I like now is red tail deer from NZ

[noahvail]

Alchemy and the Dark Arts. A liberal science field.

[h90]

I assume you and ATF don't have degrees in Liberal Arts. What is your degree in?

Electrical and Mechanical Engineering.

Ya, I would have figured that. My father too. I have a liberal education with a solid grounding in humanities, literature and so on and dad was an engineer. We could barely communicate. He had no idea what I was talking about nor I him. I can't ever remember agreeing on anything even beer and cheese he was a Neanderthal. Edit to add we did agree on salami one time.

Yes Engineers are trained in logic thinking and reasoning.....That is often difficult to understand, but I wouldn't call that Neanderthal.

[thailiketoo]

I assume you and ATF don't have degrees in Liberal Arts. What is your degree in?

Electrical and Mechanical Engineering.

Ya, I would have figured that. My father too. I have a liberal education with a solid grounding in humanities, literature and so on and dad was an engineer. We could barely communicate. He had no idea what I was talking about nor I him. I can't ever remember agreeing on anything even beer and cheese he was a Neanderthal. Edit to add we did agree on salami one time.

Yes Engineers are trained in logic thinking and reasoning.....That is often difficult to understand, but I wouldn't call that Neanderthal.

I was talking about his choice of beer and cheese. He was a Neanderthal in his choice of beer and cheese not logic and math and stuff like that. And he always knew where he was, an ace at navigation.

[Chonburiram]

ATF

Your fact simply isn't factual. Some companies even exclude CU and TU graduates from hiring practices.

If a company wants someone for a specific position they may favor grads from a specific university, such as BU for mass communications, or Silpakorn for the art department.

It's VERY helpful if you would like to work for ptt, that you come from Chula...

[jdinasia]

ATF

Your fact simply isn't factual. Some companies even exclude CU and TU graduates from hiring practices.

If a company wants someone for a specific position they may favor grads from a specific university, such as BU for mass communications, or Silpakorn for the art department.

It's VERY helpful if you would like to work for ptt, that you come from Chula...

LOL, on the hubby's resume'

[sdanielmcev]

To answer the OP, It gets your foot in the door. Maybe not ad good as a superpower, but getting there. But degrees still can be bought, so if you're stupid, you're stupid with a degree. Nothing is better than on-the-job experience.

[Chonburiram]

ATF

Your fact simply isn't factual. Some companies even exclude CU and TU graduates from hiring practices.

If a company wants someone for a specific position they may favor grads from a specific university, such as BU for mass communications, or Silpakorn for the art department.

It's VERY helpful if you would like to work for ptt, that you come from Chula...

LOL, on the hubby's resume'

Pardon me? What's on "hubby's resume"? ptt? Chula?

[jdinasia]

PTT, not Chula

[thailiketoo]

To answer the OP, It gets your foot in the door. Maybe not ad good as a superpower, but getting there. But degrees still can be bought, so if you're stupid, you're stupid with a degree. Nothing is better than on-the-job experience.

All professional degrees like law and medicine have tests that one must pass to practice even after one gets a degree. Like the Bar examination and/or internship at a hospital where you are graded by other doctors. It is part of the degree process. So, no you are not correct. Experience without the degree is worthless because no one will let you work and the degree without experience will allow you the opportunity to work and get the experience. The tests and internships are designed to weed out the stupid people so the employer is presented with a prospect with a viable chance of success. Your folksy belief that degrees can be bought is nonsense; any important job the qualifications will be checked and to suggest that a reputable university will sell degrees is not realistic.

For doctors, http://www.usmle-courses.eu/license-requirements.htm

[Chonburiram]

PTP, not Chula

I've thought so, btw, you mixed up Phuea Thai Party with the Petroleum Authority of Thailand

[Chonburiram]

Ah,

you edited it. So hubby had a project with ptt?

[jdinasia]

Auto fill error, and yes.

[sdanielmcev]

To answer the OP, It gets your foot in the door. Maybe not ad good as a superpower, but getting there. But degrees still can be bought, so if you're stupid, you're stupid with a degree. Nothing is better than on-the-job experience.

All professional degrees like law and medicine have tests that one must pass to practice even after one gets a degree. Like the Bar examination and/or internship at a hospital where you are graded by other doctors. It is part of the degree process. So, no you are not correct. Experience without the degree is worthless because no one will let you work and the degree without experience will allow you the opportunity to work and get the experience. The tests and internships are designed to weed out the stupid people so the employer is presented with a prospect with a viable chance of success. Your folksy belief that degrees can be bought is nonsense; any important job the qualifications will be checked and to suggest that a reputable university will sell degrees is not realistic.

For doctors, http://www.usmle-courses.eu/license-requirements.htm

I do not disagree with you that doctors and lawyers have to go through on-the-job grading. What I am referring to is students that buy papers. Doctors and lawyers are only a fraction of degrees graduates. Excuse my levity, also.

[BKKdreaming]

thanks for your reply , on and off topic

I would think even a BA degree needs to be in a field that you are trying to get a job in to be helpful . even more with a Masters ,

But does 2 more years of school costs and no income to get a Masters get paid back in the first 5-10 years with higher pay and a better chance of being promoted ?

I understand it is also based on how bright the student is ....

[Humberstone]

thanks for your reply , on and off topic

I would think even a BA degree needs to be in a field that you are trying to get a job in to be helpful . even more with a Masters ,

But does 2 more years of school costs and no income to get a Masters get paid back in the first 5-10 years with higher pay and a better chance of being promoted ?

I understand it is also based on how bright the student is ....

I can only answer based on the companies I have worked for here in Thailand. All graduates we employ have the same starting salary, someone who has stayed on to do a Masters gets paid the same as someone with a BSc.

Alternatively, many Thai employees after working for a few years decide to do an MBA or MSc part time at weekends. This is a nice garnish to the CV but they don't get paid any more money.

It also doesn't get you promoted any quicker.

[thailiketoo]

thanks for your reply , on and off topic

I would think even a BA degree needs to be in a field that you are trying to get a job in to be helpful . even more with a Masters ,

But does 2 more years of school costs and no income to get a Masters get paid back in the first 5-10 years with higher pay and a better chance of being promoted ?

I understand it is also based on how bright the student is ....

http://www.cbsnews.com/media/10-careers-where-a-masters-degree-pays-off/

It depends on what you want to do. Some careers entry is impossible without an advanced degree. If you want to be a brick layer or taxi driver you don't need a masters if you want to teach at a college level you do.

[mrtoad]

thanks for your reply , on and off topic

I would think even a BA degree needs to be in a field that you are trying to get a job in to be helpful . even more with a Masters ,

But does 2 more years of school costs and no income to get a Masters get paid back in the first 5-10 years with higher pay and a better chance of being promoted ?

I understand it is also based on how bright the student is ....

A lot depends on how the person performs at work. I have worked with some people who have a long list of credentials and post graduate qualifications, but can't transfer the knowledge back into the work place.