Video of row on Skytrain spurs debate

[Tokay]

As someone said on twitter, kissing is a no no, but you can get off at the next station at watch a girl shove a bottle up her <deleted>, and no one seems to have issues with that.

[mitsubishi]

Things are going downhill on the skytrain. Used to be a cool place, not so crowded. Now it would put the london tube to shame!

[BSJ]

Lets not have emotional outbursts tolerated in anyway, no kissing, handholding or hand to body squeezing. Anyone caught doing it should be thrown off the skytrain....at a station.

[ClutchClark]

Kissing is a sexual action. And so it is bad manners to do it in public, be in in the West or in Thailand, the same.

Every action that distracts the attention of people around too grossly is bad manners. Basta!

What and a man dressed up as a women does not attract attention to many people, you are having a laugh

If you are going to call Thailand home then you had better get over your hang-ups with other peoples sexuality--you will have a particularly difficult time if you are frightened by the Thai ladyboy.

[ClutchClark]

As someone said on twitter, kissing is a no no, but you can get off at the next station at watch a girl shove a bottle up her <deleted>, and no one seems to have issues with that.

Yes, you can "choose" to go to a private place of business to watch that if you like.

Its an option you are free to choose in a private venue.

See the difference?

Private vs Public.

Choice vs Captive Audience.

[Melonade]

This is not the UAE or Saudi Arabia. Thailand does not operate under Sharia law, which has clear (and ludicrous) consequences for public displays of affection. Some people need to get a life..

[ClutchClark]

Maxme,

Please edit your post for proper quotes and then take a few minutes to expound on your thought as it is presently incomplete if it does not allow rebuttal.

I think it was the point. If you are going to be disturbed by two people kissing or smooching if you so wish, I suggest you relocate to a community where time is stuck in a loop, preferably one that is stuck in the 50s era. Either that or acknowledge that time changes and that you either keep up with it or just accept that it does.

Poor max, apparently you suffer reading comprehension issues or you just make rather poor conclusions.

Where did I say I was disturbed by it?

I merely stated that when i come to a different country that I don't try and tell them they should live by my rules. I am a guest here and I give the Thais the respect to make their own rules.

I typed very slow so you could understand ;-)

Cheers

[Bluespunk]

Are public shows of affection a little disturbing? A hug, peck on the cheek (or quick peck on the lips) is fine. Thais should note that most of us 'farangs' see public snogging as a bit lewd. I'm not a fan and you don't know where to look.

However, if it is two very attractive females snogging on trains, then my first thought was ''allow it...in fact encourage it''. However, most of the time you end up standing up on the MRT or BTS. I don't fancy bumping my 'soldier standing to attention' on the train with other 'trouser tents'.

So, sadly we can't have sexy ladies getting it on in public.

Why not, is a street not a public place? and yet I see Thais do worse things than that on a some public streets, affection is affection never mind how you dress it up or do it, some countries you can not even put your hands around a women's waist without a stare or remarks, but hey it is what it is, this is the 21st century get over it

That's fair enough. I'll 'get over it' when you tell me where the line is, oh great one. Snogging? Touching up? Blow jobs?

Where is the line? I don't like seeing people eat each other's faces and getting bit touchy feely in public places. Sorry. But if you're ok with it...where is your line?

Let's see, the line?

Kissing is ok, touching up and blow jobs are not.

Simple actions showing affection [kissing/hugging/holding hands] is fine, overt sexual behavior is not.

Easy really.

[Bluespunk]

Things are going downhill on the skytrain. Used to be a cool place, not so crowded. Now it would put the london tube to shame!

I think that actually means it's successful.

[ClutchClark]

Are public shows of affection a little disturbing? A hug, peck on the cheek (or quick peck on the lips) is fine. Thais should note that most of us 'farangs' see public snogging as a bit lewd. I'm not a fan and you don't know where to look.

However, if it is two very attractive females snogging on trains, then my first thought was ''allow it...in fact encourage it''. However, most of the time you end up standing up on the MRT or BTS. I don't fancy bumping my 'soldier standing to attention' on the train with other 'trouser tents'.

So, sadly we can't have sexy ladies getting it on in public.

Why not, is a street not a public place? and yet I see Thais do worse things than that on a some public streets, affection is affection never mind how you dress it up or do it, some countries you can not even put your hands around a women's waist without a stare or remarks, but hey it is what it is, this is the 21st century get over it

That's fair enough. I'll 'get over it' when you tell me where the line is, oh great one. Snogging? Touching up? Blow jobs?

Where is the line? I don't like seeing people eat each other's faces and getting bit touchy feely in public places. Sorry. But if you're ok with it...where is your line?

Let's see, the line?

Kissing is ok, touching up and blow jobs are not.

Simple actions showing affection [kissing/hugging/holding hands] is fine, overt sexual behavior is not.

Easy really.

Blues, did anyone ever provide video to show whether it was a peck on the cheek or a tickle the tonsils extravaganza? Some assume it was a peck and others think it was a make out session. I have yet to see video of how involved or uninvolved it was.

[Robert24]

The woman is right, should not tuch in public. Everyone understands this here, so I agree with her scolding the Tomboy.

[Bluespunk]

That's fair enough. I'll 'get over it' when you tell me where the line is, oh great one. Snogging? Touching up? Blow jobs?

Where is the line? I don't like seeing people eat each other's faces and getting bit touchy feely in public places. Sorry. But if you're ok with it...where is your line?

Let's see, the line?

Kissing is ok, touching up and blow jobs are not.

Simple actions showing affection [kissing/hugging/holding hands] is fine, overt sexual behavior is not.

Easy really.

Blues, did anyone ever provide video to show whether it was a peck on the cheek or a tickle the tonsils extravaganza? Some assume it was a peck and others think it was a make out session. I have yet to see video of how involved or uninvolved it was.

No I haven't either, not sure anyone has yet, if such a video clip even exists.

From what the story in the OP says it appears to be just kissing and hugging, there is no suggestion of passion.

The rest of the people in the carriage appear to be embarrassed by the ranting woman's outburst which suggests they think she os over reacting.

That's how I see it.

Am I right or wrong? Well I'll go out on a limb and say I'm no more of either than anyone else commenting on this thread.

My point is that, while I don't particularly like seeing people kiss in public, it's nothing to get so irate about if it's just mild displays of affection.

If someone is happy in a relationship, it's what they do.

Apparently.

[mitsubishi]

Things are going downhill on the skytrain. Used to be a cool place, not so crowded. Now it would put the london tube to shame!

I think that actually means it's successful.

Not for the poor saps that have to ride on it cheek to jowl!

I'm all for them making some dingle-money but add some carriages on and ease the crowding!

[Bluespunk]

Things are going downhill on the skytrain. Used to be a cool place, not so crowded. Now it would put the london tube to shame!

I think that actually means it's successful.

Not for the poor saps that have to ride on it cheek to jowl!

I'm all for them making some dingle-money but add some carriages on and ease the crowding!

It can , not always but it can, get crowded at peak times but mostly it seems fine to me and I use it a lot.

To the point now where I rarely go anywhere that isn't within easy reach of it or the MRT.

It seems to be successful as a business rather than one going down hill.

[jcisco]

Have we gotten to this point in society where.... people are known as , Tomboy, Transsexual.... despite it appears their apparent names being known. I know it is convenient, but damn, throw a label on that too. And generally thais are obtuse as a drunkard but on this front, veerrry precise.

[jpeg]

"@greentea_pt wrote: "Do we have to announce in schools, temples, hospitals and other places [that this type of behaviour is unacceptable]? Or should it be a manner taught at home?""

Or should we accept that people have the right to express their feelings for each other in private and public?

Should we accept that no one has the right to condemn others for doing so?

Should we accept that legal behaviour whether we like it or not is legal and therefore none of our business?

Personally people kissing and "whatevering" in public makes me want to reach for the sick bag, but that's because I'm bitter, cynical and old.

They still have the right to do it though.

Let people express themselves and be who they are.

I'm neither bitter cynical nor old but I do find public snogging sessions, of any gender', repugnant. Get a bloody room foxtrot foxtrot sierra

[CUNJU]

It is o.k. to walk around in public with just your scanty underwear, and urinate in public, but not kiss? Sad idiots should just mind their own idiotic business!!

What harm in kissing?

[ClutchClark]

Have we gotten to this point in society where.... people are known as , Tomboy, Transsexual.... despite it appears their apparent names being known. I know it is convenient, but damn, throw a label on that too. And generally thais are obtuse as a drunkard but on this front, veerrry precise.

The names are not being used in a negative fashion, simply as an easily identifiable label.

Do you think the ladyboy is upset to be called a ladyboy?

Do you think the lesbian is upset to be identified as a lesbian here?

I am an old white guy. You are free to call me that anytime, in fact, it would be a pleasant change from what some of the guys here call me ;-)

Cheers

[ClutchClark]

It is o.k. to walk around in public with just your scanty underwear, and urinate in public, but not kiss? Sad idiots should just mind their own idiotic business!!

What harm in kissing?

Cunjo, hate to be the one to break the news to you but its actually NOT acceptable to walk around in your undies or to keep peeing wherever you please in public. We've been wanting to tell you for some time but were waiting for the right moment.

;-)

[jcisco]

Have we gotten to this point in society where.... people are known as , Tomboy, Transsexual.... despite it appears their apparent names being known. I know it is convenient, but damn, throw a label on that too. And generally thais are obtuse as a drunkard but on this front, veerrry precise.

The names are not being used in a negative fashion, simply as an easily identifiable label.

Do you think the ladyboy is upset to be called a ladyboy?

Do you think the lesbian is upset to be identified as a lesbian here?

I am an old white guy. You are free to call me that anytime, in fact, it would be a pleasant change from what some of the guys here call me ;-)

Cheers

Everything you said, there already, I agree. My point was, if they have been identified, names are a bit more polite.

[FrankOff]

When I first came to Thailand a couple couldn't even hold hands in public.......now!....trannies,toms,screamers.dreamers & in betweeners all in the social mosh pit.......great!! Thats progress,baby!!

[Toknarok]

Displays of spit-swapping in public are not condoned by the majority of Thais. Some gays and lesbians go out of their way to provoke reactions, an 'in your face attitude' that most will ignore, but you'll always get someone to over-react and then the perpetrators cry 'harassment/intolerance'.

[Bluespunk]

Displays of spit-swapping in public are not condoned by the majority of Thais. Some gays and lesbians go out of their way to provoke reactions, an 'in your face attitude' that most will ignore, but you'll always get someone to over-react and then the perpetrators cry 'harassment/intolerance'.

For all we know intolerance could well be the case here.

The woman being yelled at does appear to be quite calm and collected in the clip.

Not really what you'd call an 'in your face, looking for a reaction' trait.

At least not in my experiences of people, of all sexual orientations, who have this mind set.

However I wasn't there and don't know anyone who was.

I still feel the treatment of the women who were only kissing was well over the top

[ClutchClark]

Displays of spit-swapping in public are not condoned by the majority of Thais. Some gays and lesbians go out of their way to provoke reactions, an 'in your face attitude' that most will ignore, but you'll always get someone to over-react and then the perpetrators cry 'harassment/intolerance'.

For all we know intolerance could well be the case here.

The woman being yelled at does appear to be quite calm and collected in the clip.

Not really what you'd call an 'in your face, looking for a reaction' trait.

At least not in my experiences of people, of all sexual orientations, who have this mind set.

However I wasn't there and don't know anyone who was.

I still feel the treatment of the women who were only kissing was well over the top

And here I interpreted her bowed and obedient behavior an acknowledgement that she had behaved poorly and was being rightfully admonished by an older individual for her indiscretion. Really, I did, I am not just cracking wise.

Youre really going to stick with that "only kissing" assumption til the cows come home, eh Blues? ;-)

[Bluespunk]

Displays of spit-swapping in public are not condoned by the majority of Thais. Some gays and lesbians go out of their way to provoke reactions, an 'in your face attitude' that most will ignore, but you'll always get someone to over-react and then the perpetrators cry 'harassment/intolerance'.

For all we know intolerance could well be the case here.

The woman being yelled at does appear to be quite calm and collected in the clip.

Not really what you'd call an 'in your face, looking for a reaction' trait.

At least not in my experiences of people, of all sexual orientations, who have this mind set.

However I wasn't there and don't know anyone who was.

I still feel the treatment of the women who were only kissing was well over the top

And here I interpreted her bowed and obedient behavior an acknowledgement that she had behaved poorly and was being rightfully admonished by an older individual for her indiscretion. Really, I did, I am not just cracking wise.

Youre really going to stick with that "only kissing" assumption til the cows come home, eh Blues? ;-)

With all available evidence it's as good as any other. :-}

As for the the woman on the end of the rant behavior on the clip it could well also be a reaction of a rational individual trying to calm down a nutter who has gone over the top for no real reason.

Let's face it, we really don't know, do we?

Edited November 9, 2014 by Bluespunk

[BadBouy]

"@greentea_pt wrote: "Do we have to announce in schools, temples, hospitals and other places [that this type of behaviour is unacceptable]? Or should it be a manner taught at home?""

Or should we accept that people have the right to express their feelings for each other in private and public?

Should we accept that no one has the right to condemn others for doing so?

Should we accept that legal behaviour whether we like it or not is legal and therefore none of our business?

Personally people kissing and "whatevering" in public makes me want to reach for the sick bag, but that's because I'm bitter, cynical and old.

They still have the right to do it though.

Let people express themselves and be who they are.

Should we accept that it it not your country or culture so your opinion is irrelevant ?

[bendejo]

eating and drinking is already banned in the BTS.

Make it now: eating, drinking, masturbating, kissing, pulling in the nose....

What? No masturbating on Skytrain? When will this go into effect?

The usual comment made is 'get a room.' Unless you're in Paris.

Edited November 9, 2014 by bendejo

[bendejo]

I find public nose picking more offensive than this but have never seen anyone intervene or chase people from a train for doing it.

Agreed, and what about spitting great gobs of muck next to you (have not seen that on the train . . . yet) and violent sniffing. How about coughing while not covering the mouth. YUK!

Much more of a problem than innocent displays of affection.

Actually I hesitate to admit it, but a couple of lezzos kissing is something I quite enjoy seeing, and why not be entertained thus while on the train?

If you happen upon two females making it, unfortunately they will probably look something like Rosie O'Donnell and Rachel Maddow.

I like this idea of seeing a tom fight a katoey, I'd pay to see that if the katoey gets a proper arse whoopin'.

[ClutchClark]

Let's face it, we really don't know, do we?

Blues, this is TVF, what does having all the information have to do with anything.

;-)

[bendejo]

And here I interpreted her bowed and obedient behavior an acknowledgement that she had behaved poorly and was being rightfully admonished by an older individual for her indiscretion. Really, I did, I am not just cracking wise.

Same here. I couldn't understand the dialogue but thought the tom was doing the deference to elders thing.