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That assumes I was not an expert. I was. I was a broker in Chicago once upon a time. I dressed well. When I walked in Gucci to look no clerks paid any attention to me. When I walked in with my mother we had everyone in the store all over us. Mom was a rich old woman.

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Tell me about it! I wandered into Gucci at Suria KLCC underneath the Petronas Towers in KL, smartly dressed and was acknowledged by staff (imperceptible nod of the head and tightening of the lips) but nobody moved from their marks. Then my statuesque Vietnamese Beach Club supermodel PA swirled in wearing (obviously) Prada and they were suddenly all over us like a rash. They were kinda miffed when she only bought a pair of shades though.

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Hired staff probably are on a salary of >30 thousand baht.

Suit or not, facebook would obviously take priority.

Which if you really think about it, is an underlying problem that causes many of Thailand's problems. Mind you, not you wearing a suit ( Indian made?) but low wages. Police receive paltry renumeration, hence wide spread corruption. Builders are simply coolie like labourers (sic) so hence poor workmanship etc. all the way down the line. I bet if that skank was going to make 200 000 k commission of your loose spending she would have been all over you even more so than your (expensive?) suit!>!>!

Anyway props for wearing a suit in pattaya. hot as <deleted>

You might want to delve into police loans and pension and health insurance plans. Cops are on the take everywhere no matter how much paid. Read the news; I won't bore you with posting stories from every newspaper in the world.
Not where i come from. I think it is about time that you let go of....how it is, according to you, in the US of A....it is similar in the rest of the world. There are civilized nations despite of what you might think.

A challenge eh? You name the country and I'll post the stories about corruption. biggrin.png

Haha...i knew you would come back with this. Policecorruption takes place in every country because humans are ....humans. The scale and the level it takes place on differs though. Anyway as you are not daft you know the point i try to make.

Holland....be interested with what you come up with.

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I once needed to buy a new wardrobe of high end clothes. I went to one or the fanciest stores in town, but they took one look at the way I was currently dressed and told me to get out.

I ended buying what I needed at another store and on the way home looked in on the first place and waved all my parcels of new gear at them. I asked if they worked on commission, and said "Big Mistake, Huge!"

That was a great movie wasn't it. Julia Roberts was captivating.

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Some years back I was buying a car in the UK. The pompous salesman obviously didn't think i looked as a serious buyer and was pretty up himself. I left, drove to the next Audi delearship and purchased a brand new TT cash. <deleted> him. I enjoyed driving the car over there a week later. Look on his face was priceless.Don't always judge on initial appearances.; some of the wealthiest people i know certainly look pretty ordinary and sone out right scruffy

Never tell a car salesman you are paying cash. They might chase you out of the salesroom.

Not saying you did but any good salesman can tell the difference between a buyer and a looker by more than clothes.

Complete Bolix TLIT unlike most of your posts

If He was a good salesman he would act the same way regardless of his own inadequacies or biases ,in other words he would never judge a book by its covers ( if he was a "good" salesman of course) Titter titter!

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Some years back I was buying a car in the UK. The pompous salesman obviously didn't think i looked as a serious buyer and was pretty up himself. I left, drove to the next Audi delearship and purchased a brand new TT cash. <deleted> him. I enjoyed driving the car over there a week later. Look on his face was priceless.Don't always judge on initial appearances.; some of the wealthiest people i know certainly look pretty ordinary and sone out right scruffy

Never tell a car salesman you are paying cash. They might chase you out of the salesroom.

Not saying you did but any good salesman can tell the difference between a buyer and a looker by more than clothes.

Complete Bolix TLIT unlike most of your posts

If He was a good salesman he would act the same way regardless of his own inadequacies or biases ,in other words he would never judge a book by its covers ( if he was a "good" salesman of course) Titter titter!

Actually Bolex not bolix but I digress. I was making a point.

Many a salesperson thinks they can spot a buyer and does not spend time with lookers. My point was the Thai lady made a decision that the OP was not going to buy and as a result was not interested in him. She may have been right or wrong but it was because she made the a decision as a salesperson not a Thai person.

I was belittling myself to make a point about salespeople.

Thailand is especially difficult to tell rich people because everyone wears bad shoes.

In the cowboy States one can usually tell wealth by the boots and hat. Even covered in cow poop a 10,000 pair of boots is a 10,000 pair of boots. A Stetson hat may be sweat stained but it's still a Stetson hat.

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I once needed to buy a new wardrobe of high end clothes. I went to one or the fanciest stores in town, but they took one look at the way I was currently dressed and told me to get out.

I ended buying what I needed at another store and on the way home looked in on the first place and waved all my parcels of new gear at them. I asked if they worked on commission, and said "Big Mistake, Huge!"

I see what you did there.

That was a great scene.

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Someone well dressed and complaining about service from the staff has no interest in buying anything. They just want the salesman to make them feel important.

My guess is the sales staff saw the same thing in the OP.

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Hired staff probably are on a salary of >30 thousand baht.

Suit or not, facebook would obviously take priority.

Which if you really think about it, is an underlying problem that causes many of Thailand's problems. Mind you, not you wearing a suit ( Indian made?) but low wages. Police receive paltry renumeration, hence wide spread corruption. Builders are simply coolie like labourers (sic) so hence poor workmanship etc. all the way down the line. I bet if that skank was going to make 200 000 k commission of your loose spending she would have been all over you even more so than your (expensive?) suit!>!>!

Anyway props for wearing a suit in pattaya. hot as <deleted>

You might want to delve into police loans and pension and health insurance plans. Cops are on the take everywhere no matter how much paid. Read the news; I won't bore you with posting stories from every newspaper in the world.

think you missed the boat on my point here, but then again i may have as well as i was half cut (bushmills)

Anyways I never said anything about police corruption in other countries, and obviously corruption does exist throughout the world. My point was lack of salary paid to working people often result in shoddy output from them.

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Hired staff probably are on a salary of >30 thousand baht.

Suit or not, facebook would obviously take priority.

Which if you really think about it, is an underlying problem that causes many of Thailand's problems. Mind you, not you wearing a suit ( Indian made?) but low wages. Police receive paltry renumeration, hence wide spread corruption. Builders are simply coolie like labourers (sic) so hence poor workmanship etc. all the way down the line. I bet if that skank was going to make 200 000 k commission of your loose spending she would have been all over you even more so than your (expensive?) suit!>!>!

Anyway props for wearing a suit in pattaya. hot as <deleted>

You might want to delve into police loans and pension and health insurance plans. Cops are on the take everywhere no matter how much paid. Read the news; I won't bore you with posting stories from every newspaper in the world.

think you missed the boat on my point here, but then again i may have as well as i was half cut (bushmills)

Anyways I never said anything about police corruption in other countries, and obviously corruption does exist throughout the world. My point was lack of salary paid to working people often result in shoddy output from them.

Begs the question do police world wide become policeman because they want to help people or because they are bullies wanting to take advantage people with the force of the law behind them. And as far as salespeople go are they lazy worldwide or only in Thailand?

Is Thailand the only place that there are lazy salespeople or are the people complaining, complaining about anything in Thailand and salespeople get caught in the net of negativity?

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I once needed to buy a new wardrobe of high end clothes. I went to one or the fanciest stores in town, but they took one look at the way I was currently dressed and told me to get out.

I ended buying what I needed at another store and on the way home looked in on the first place and waved all my parcels of new gear at them. I asked if they worked on commission, and said "Big Mistake, Huge!"

Are you sure you didnt see this in the movie pretty woman?

im not.

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I once needed to buy a new wardrobe of high end clothes. I went to one or the fanciest stores in town, but they took one look at the way I was currently dressed and told me to get out.

I ended buying what I needed at another store and on the way home looked in on the first place and waved all my parcels of new gear at them. I asked if they worked on commission, and said "Big Mistake, Huge!"

Are you sure you didnt see this in the movie pretty woman?

im not.

He may have actually been in Pretty Woman, playing Richard Gere's gerbil

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I once needed to buy a new wardrobe of high end clothes. I went to one or the fanciest stores in town, but they took one look at the way I was currently dressed and told me to get out.

I ended buying what I needed at another store and on the way home looked in on the first place and waved all my parcels of new gear at them. I asked if they worked on commission, and said "Big Mistake, Huge!"

Are you sure you didnt see this in the movie pretty woman?

im not.

He may have actually been in Pretty Woman, playing Richard Gere's gerbil

Thanks! now i got picture of the described scene in my mindbah.gif

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So the other day I was in Pattaya and I walked into a few real estate companies offices.

I am in the market to buy a beach condo. I walk in and the staff is either on the cell phone or just plain ignoring me.

I am dressed well and have the ability to buy a property so why is no one interested in making a sale.

I asked one lady can you show me some rooms and she just said you can go on the website to look.

I am like ok but how do I go about viewing the room? Can you show me something today?

No you have to go online and look for a specific room then schedule a time to look. Ok I guess?

But why can't you show me some options and go through the choices with me?

This was the same attitude at multiple places I went to lazy staff with no interest in making a sale. Why is that?

It feels like people don't like money because they have no interest in selling anything.

Are they making money playing Facebook games online?

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So the other day I was in Pattaya and I walked into a few real estate companies offices.

I am in the market to buy a beach condo. I walk in and the staff is either on the cell phone or just plain ignoring me.

I am dressed well and have the ability to buy a property so why is no one interested in making a sale.

I asked one lady can you show me some rooms and she just said you can go on the website to look.

I am like ok but how do I go about viewing the room? Can you show me something today?

No you have to go online and look for a specific room then schedule a time to look. Ok I guess?

But why can't you show me some options and go through the choices with me?

This was the same attitude at multiple places I went to lazy staff with no interest in making a sale. Why is that?

It feels like people don't like money because they have no interest in selling anything.

Are they making money playing Facebook games online?

[emoji33]

What is a facebook game?

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Treat every customer the same. Contact to some people's views you can't tell money by looking at people.

You can make am opinion on someone but in the end it's an opinion not a fact.

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you can't tell money by looking at people.

That may be right in any other but country except Thailand. People here expect you to show off - even if you have nothing. It wouldn't go in their heads that there're people who see bragging with their wealth as something bad.

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you can't tell money by looking at people.

That may be right in any other but country except Thailand. People here expect you to show off - even if you have nothing. It wouldn't go in their heads that there're people who see bragging with their wealth as something bad.

A strange way of saying that ...Mooner....was correct in his statement.

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Treat every customer the same. Contact to some people's views you can't tell money by looking at people.

You can make am opinion on someone but in the end it's an opinion not a fact.

"unless you were born rich, it is very difficult to understand."

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Even though you are in denial, it is clear you are a serial "tyre-kicker" or the real estate equivalent. You kid yourself that you are "in the market for a beach condo" but what you are really in the market for is being treated like a special customer, flattered, driven around for private viewings of 10 million Baht condos.

The thing is, these salespeople are experienced and they know, they can smell a time-waster a mile off, the second you walked through the door they knew you would take up half their morning and would not part with a penny.

I guess you haven't bought your beach condo yet.

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I used to work at a high end camera; store professional equipment Hasselblad, Beaulieu, Leica and so on. I got so used to the customers that I could tell with 100% accuracy if they were buyers or not.

When a non buying customer would walk in and ask to see a camera I'd say, "there it is and point to the camera on the shelf."

The customer would then ask me to touch the camera and I'd say, "nope."

I thought you ran 5 star hotels and owned chain of restaurants ? Was that your part time job?

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In all honesty if OP is not a troll , he would receive same response from every single agent.

So OP walks into a office and wants to look at something ?

How genuine is a buyer who has no clue or even an indication?

I am certain if OP said he wanted a condo in such and such area, price around this much with so many bedrooms, he would not have been told to go look at the website , but when someone says he wants to look at some rooms , it's ckearly a time wasting excercise.

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I used to work at a high end camera; store professional equipment Hasselblad, Beaulieu, Leica and so on. I got so used to the customers that I could tell with 100% accuracy if they were buyers or not.

When a non buying customer would walk in and ask to see a camera I'd say, "there it is and point to the camera on the shelf."

The customer would then ask me to touch the camera and I'd say, "nope."

I thought you ran 5 star hotels and owned chain of restaurants ? Was that your part time job?

When I was in college. I worked at the camera store part time and part time and as a bus boy at the Playboy club among other jobs. I mainly sold cameras to professionals they were easy to spot. Few amateurs used 16mm movie equipment or the larger format still cameras.

There is a difference between a rich fellow dressed down and a goofy nerd. Camera stores back then attracted a lot of goofy nerds.

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Even though you are in denial, it is clear you are a serial "tyre-kicker" or the real estate equivalent. You kid yourself that you are "in the market for a beach condo" but what you are really in the market for is being treated like a special customer, flattered, driven around for private viewings of 10 million Baht condos.

The thing is, these salespeople are experienced and they know, they can smell a time-waster a mile off, the second you walked through the door they knew you would take up half their morning and would not part with a penny.

I guess you haven't bought your beach condo yet.

Your right sales staff can do no wrong everything is my fault.

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Your right sales staff can do no wrong everything is my fault.

Is the reason you have not bought a condo yet that you have not found a good salesperson?

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Even though you are in denial, it is clear you are a serial "tyre-kicker" or the real estate equivalent. You kid yourself that you are "in the market for a beach condo" but what you are really in the market for is being treated like a special customer, flattered, driven around for private viewings of 10 million Baht condos.

The thing is, these salespeople are experienced and they know, they can smell a time-waster a mile off, the second you walked through the door they knew you would take up half their morning and would not part with a penny.

I guess you haven't bought your beach condo yet.

Your right sales staff can do no wrong everything is my fault.

You misunderstand. It is not a case of "doing wrong". Nobody here, not you, not the sales staff, are "doing wrong".

It is a matter of perception.

You perceive yourself as a genuine potential buyer. The sales staff perceive you as a genuine time-waster. My inkling is that the sales staff are more likely to have an accurate perception.

You perceive the sales staff to be lazy. The sales staff perceive themselves as having better things to do with their time than deal with you.

You need to consider what every actor in this piece's motivations and desires are.

p.s. What is your "imaginary" budget?

p.p.s. Why are you bothering with estate agents? They will take 100,000 Baht of your cash for doing very little. You can just go into condos and buy direct from the sellers by reading the noticeboard.

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I used to work at a high end camera; store professional equipment Hasselblad, Beaulieu, Leica and so on. I got so used to the customers that I could tell with 100% accuracy if they were buyers or not.

When a non buying customer would walk in and ask to see a camera I'd say, "there it is and point to the camera on the shelf."

The customer would then ask me to touch the camera and I'd say, "nope."

I thought you ran 5 star hotels and owned chain of restaurants ? Was that your part time job?

When I was in college. I worked at the camera store part time and part time and as a bus boy at the Playboy club among other jobs. I mainly sold cameras to professionals they were easy to spot. Few amateurs used 16mm movie equipment or the larger format still cameras.

There is a difference between a rich fellow dressed down and a goofy nerd. Camera stores back then attracted a lot of goofy nerds.

Good to see at 80 years of age your imagination still runs wildthumbsup.gifcheesy.gif

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I used to work at a high end camera; store professional equipment Hasselblad, Beaulieu, Leica and so on. I got so used to the customers that I could tell with 100% accuracy if they were buyers or not.

When a non buying customer would walk in and ask to see a camera I'd say, "there it is and point to the camera on the shelf."

The customer would then ask me to touch the camera and I'd say, "nope."

I thought you ran 5 star hotels and owned chain of restaurants ? Was that your part time job?

When I was in college. I worked at the camera store part time and part time and as a bus boy at the Playboy club among other jobs. I mainly sold cameras to professionals they were easy to spot. Few amateurs used 16mm movie equipment or the larger format still cameras.

There is a difference between a rich fellow dressed down and a goofy nerd. Camera stores back then attracted a lot of goofy nerds.

Good to see at 80 years of age your imagination still runs wildthumbsup.gifcheesy.gif

Why would you call me a liar? I worked my way through college and had a number of different jobs. You asked a question and I answered it. Why insult me? I have no reason to lie to you.

Day after day salespeople see tire kickers. It gets boring especially for successful salespeople. They are making money and not desperate for a sale. If they lose one sale not to have to put up with 10 tire kickers that's OK if you are a successful sales person.

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