HeijoshinCool Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 I wish someone would censor single-sentence paragraphs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apetley Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 "There is nothing wrong with your television. Do not attempt to adjust the picture. We are now in control of the transmission. We control the horizontal and the vertical. We can deluge you with a thousand channels, or expand one single image to crystal clarity and beyond. We can shape your vision to anything our imagination can conceive. For the next hour, we will control all that you see and hear." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WhizBang Posted November 15, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2014 Let's just cut to the quick and state the obvious... Thailand is not now, nor ever was a democracy. Thailand is now a Military Dictatorship, where freedom of speech is non existant. TV shows can be pulled off the air and hosts 'reassigned' if they do not toe the official line. And, oh yes, books critical of the regime will be banned. Personally, I think all this suppression is going to backfire on the military. In talking with my Thai friends, at first they were happy with the coup, but now there is a very strong and growing resentment to this suppression and a feeling that the hoped for (and promised) changes simply will never happen. My guess is, some tough times ahead. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Way to go dear general. That pesky presentator didn't get the message and tricked innocent and above all happy Thais with questons intended to provoke negative remarks about the junta. We cannot have that, as according to the polls 93% of Thais are happy. We cannot have people with opposing views being put on televison for all to see, it would do serious damage to your propaganda <deleted>. May I suggest sending the pesky presentator to your indoctrination camp so she can learn how to be happy ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcomer71 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 How can be anyone happy when you hear news like this? Another stab in people rights back... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLSEEINGEYE Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Freedom of speech is one thing but I think laws should be put in place to insure responsible journalism as well. Having anyone in the media spewing blatant lies to skew the facts in the hopes of furthering someones agenda should not be tolerated. These people should be responsible for what they say. I remember back in the 70's in North America, there were laws in place like this. Where are they now? There does not seem to be any responsibility in journalism anymore. Who do you trust??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwest5829 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 well it is obvious that if the show is critical of the process and the current situation rather than encouraging or offering productive ideas about the reform process then it has no place on any media, we have had enough of divisive factions and propaganda running loose on Thai TV - there is a reform process that is moving forward - lets stick to the program like it or not The show asked questions and responses were given honestly by citizens. What you put forth is nothing short of allowing only one voice. Been there before, haven't we? And in several countries it continues. I continue to hope for better got the Thai people but am mindful of their past. Thailand has also been through this many times. Listen to only those who agree or are afraid and you sow the seeds of your own distruction. Has to be a middle way between " do what we say" and open fighting in the streets. I was hopeful but the way things are going...well, Thailand has done this before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 well it is obvious that if the show is critical of the process and the current situation rather than encouraging or offering productive ideas about the reform process then it has no place on any media, we have had enough of divisive factions and propaganda running loose on Thai TV - there is a reform process that is moving forward - lets stick to the program like it or not Yeah, criticism can't be tolerated. Look what televised criticism and protest did to the last government. Better to stick to a program of martial law and censorship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwest5829 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Freedom of speech is one thing but I think laws should be put in place to insure responsible journalism as well. Having anyone in the media spewing blatant lies to skew the facts in the hopes of furthering someones agenda should not be tolerated. These people should be responsible for what they say. I remember back in the 70's in North America, there were laws in place like this. Where are they now? There does not seem to be any responsibility in journalism anymore. Who do you trust??? I also am very unhappy with media these days. In chasing advertising revenue based on viewership, it appears the sensationalist, often misleading headlines cause undue agitation. I support free speech but, as a U.S. Supreme Court Justice pointed out, there are responsible restrictions on this and other " rights". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 " .... activists criticising the coup in response to provocative questions." Did you people not bother to read that part ?. And are you not able to comprehend that Prayuth is trying to achieve reconciliation which will be impossible with red-shirt's trying to stick a knife in anywhere they can ?. If Pheu-Thai had even tried for reconciliation Thailand would not be in this mess. They (and you) deserve everything which happened. What kind of reconciliation would have satisfied Suthap and his followers other than total capitulation? It's also worth noting that in countries with a free press and freedom of speech (not Thailand), provocative questions are a routine part of journalism and criticism of the government is permitted. As far as Prayuth's attempts to achieve reconciliation using all the usual forms of repression, not everyone is as enthusiastic about it as you are. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fnprop Posted November 15, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2014 " .... activists criticising the coup in response to provocative questions." Did you people not bother to read that part ?. And are you not able to comprehend that Prayuth is trying to achieve reconciliation which will be impossible with red-shirt's trying to stick a knife in anywhere they can ?. If Pheu-Thai had even tried for reconciliation Thailand would not be in this mess. They (and you) deserve everything which happened. Did you bother to read where this taping took place? Yep. Songkla. That hotbed of red-shirt activism. You sure know your Thailand, don't ya Skippy? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakseeda Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 well it is obvious that if the show is critical of the process and the current situation rather than encouraging or offering productive ideas about the reform process then it has no place on any media, we have had enough of divisive factions and propaganda running loose on Thai TV - there is a reform process that is moving forward - lets stick to the program like it or not I think you lost a lot more that just "3 days" on your "whiskey diet", like it or not. There is no "e" in Real whisky...... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazes Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Of course, you can ask questions, no problem, as long as they are not "provocative". Here's a provocative question: who owns what in Thailand? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hansnoi Posted November 15, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2014 well it is obvious that if the show is critical of the process and the current situation rather than encouraging or offering productive ideas about the reform process then it has no place on any media, we have had enough of divisive factions and propaganda running loose on Thai TV - there is a reform process that is moving forward - lets stick to the program like it or not Paycheck has been sent to you already. Thanks. Best regards. Junta 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Reap what you sow - and certain people said it would be different this time, just give it time. Just how much time do you need, before it finally sinks in?......................................... Well the PTP had 3 years and always wanted more time. Also under the PTP all the Red shirt radio and TV stations were pumping out propaganda at full power including the hundreds of them without a licence to broadcast and they weren't shut down but that of course was because they were supporting the Red Shirts line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayboy Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 well it is obvious that if the show is critical of the process and the current situation rather than encouraging or offering productive ideas about the reform process then it has no place on any media, we have had enough of divisive factions and propaganda running loose on Thai TV - there is a reform process that is moving forward - lets stick to the program like it or not Paycheck has been sent to you already. Thanks. Best regards. Junta Excellent response.Still one has to wonder at the interesting suggestion from this genius that Thai TV is now somehow free of propaganda when it is awash with nauseating tonnages of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 (edited) I will tell you how to think, eat rice no bread. Thaksin thinks, Puea Thai does as he says, or else. Edited November 15, 2014 by billd766 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestBitterPhuket Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Sadly, it looks like there will be no real reforms any time soon. But this is the army's last chance of getting it right. They don't have much support in the north, and support in the south is eroding. Support among young urbanites will also erode fast, if they can't keep their promises or show proof of real progress. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil2407 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Democracy in LOS - LMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony125 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 well it is obvious that if the show is critical of the process and the current situation rather than encouraging or offering productive ideas about the reform process then it has no place on any media, we have had enough of divisive factions and propaganda running loose on Thai TV - there is a reform process that is moving forward - lets stick to the program like it or not I think you lost a lot more that just "3 days" on your "whiskey diet", like it or not. There is no "e" in Real whisky...... Can be spelled either way--- http://www.thekitchn.com/whiskey-vs-whisky-whats-the-di-100476 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucec64 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Freedom of speech is one thing but I think laws should be put in place to insure responsible journalism as well. Having anyone in the media spewing blatant lies to skew the facts in the hopes of furthering someones agenda should not be tolerated. These people should be responsible for what they say. I remember back in the 70's in North America, there were laws in place like this. Where are they now? There does not seem to be any responsibility in journalism anymore. Who do you trust??? To see blatant lies in the media, one does not have to look any further than the daily "understanding" propaganda news stories. So is lying ok as long as they are the "right" lies? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MobileContent Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Sadly, it looks like there will be no real reforms any time soon. But this is the army's last chance of getting it right. They don't have much support in the north, and support in the south is eroding. Support among young urbanites will also erode fast, if they can't keep their promises or show proof of real progress. You are right - They have no support in the North, Northeast and the 3 Deep South provinces. Whatever they will do will be only for the support of the Bangkok elite and the influential figures from the tourist ghettos/provinces. No reforms will come up. In 6 months their has been no meaningful reforms and he wants to give back power to the people in 13 months. Their will be no elections in the next 2-3 years. Thai coup leaders are known to plunder the country and I don't think this general is any different then the other 19 generals that have run this country. THAI Airways is a typical example how it has been plundered by the army. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwyn Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 (edited) "The decision to replace her came after a group of military officers requested that the show be pulled off the air, citing an order from their "bosses" in the NCPO." Anybody still have doubts on whether this a country under a style of leadership beginning with a 'D'? and I do not mean democracy.... Edited November 15, 2014 by Alwyn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Censorship of the press. A sign of the times and it does not bode well for the future. even under the last so called democratically elected/purchased government there was no censorship deficit. active(influence), passive, or self censorship or that related to defamation suits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baa_Mango Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Sad to see them tightening up control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty123 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 ''Nattaya hosted "People's Voices that Need to be Heard before the Reform"'. So....a junta is saying that they don't intend to listen to anyone's views but their own? Massive surprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 (edited) You know I never believed the coup hype which seemingly cracked down on extreme redshirt activists temporarily. I think people who temporarily supported such action will think twice, whether it was too early to give our dear Interim PM the credits... ' cause there will always be consequences In disguise, such as these censorship of opinion just now.... The point here is, it nothing more than populist policy's in disguise vs populist policy of the opposition party in disguise, whoever controls the media controls the masses. Therefore neither party will ever give a damn about the good for the people of thailand, neither freedom of opinion, nor thinking different evolving. They manipulate their followers, and screw them backstabbing over, amazing thainocracy Edited November 15, 2014 by MaxLee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MickGC Posted November 15, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2014 Reap what you sow - and certain people said it would be different this time, just give it time. Just how much time do you need, before it finally sinks in?......................................... Well the PTP had 3 years and always wanted more time. Also under the PTP all the Red shirt radio and TV stations were pumping out propaganda at full power including the hundreds of them without a licence to broadcast and they weren't shut down but that of course was because they were supporting the Red Shirts line. I think with a little research you might find both sides of politics had free access to the various media platforms prior to the coup. Unlike the situation now. To argue otherwise is not an unbiased argument. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExPratt Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 '......It came after Nattaya hosted the programme in Songkhla, with villagers and activists criticising the coup in response to provocative questions." Uncanny isn't it , only 7% of Thais unhappy with the Junta and Thai PBS manage to find them, in Songklah of all places 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty123 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 " .... activists criticising the coup in response to provocative questions." Did you people not bother to read that part ?. And are you not able to comprehend that Prayuth is trying to achieve reconciliation which will be impossible with red-shirt's trying to stick a knife in anywhere they can ?. If Pheu-Thai had even tried for reconciliation Thailand would not be in this mess. They (and you) deserve everything which happened. I'm not sure you're being serious. If you are, then I can only assume that you have a learning or mental disability, so I shall refrain from getting into an argument with you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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