Declaration to immigration for one night away ?

[Tchooptip]

Hi every one,

I have a Mac Book pro under Apple Care that need to be repaired, I do live in Samu, retirement extension, the nearest Apple Care service is in Nakkon Si Thammarat, I called them no problem, so I will go I guess by bus...but not sure I will be able to come back the same day, then no problem, I will find a hotel for the night...but what about immigration?

I cannot declare it in Samui since I am not sure if I will, or not, spend the night.

Then should I declared it to the Police once In Nakkon if I decide to stay one night ?

[Gulfsailor]

The hotel where you are staying should make the report to immigration. That said no one ever asked me on my travels throughout southern Thailand. Not immigration, not any hotel. Conclusion; no one cares. (Phuket seems to be an exception!)

[falang07]

I would just send it, not worth the hassle. It is just a computer, does not deserve it

[harrry]

Cost of sending it TNT which is pretty safe is less than 700 baht. Probaby 2 days but if you ar lucky one.

[Tchooptip]

I would just send it, not worth the hassle. It is just a computer, does not deserve it

A Mac Book Pro with an optional screen for graphic designer, I did paid 2500 Euros, that is to say 110,000Baht !

Yes I thought to send it but not enough confidence in the postal service,

by the way I bought a new one already ... 80,000 Baht

so no real hurry Apple care till August 2015.

[Tchooptip]

Cost of sending it TNT which is pretty safe is less than 700 baht. Probaby 2 days but if you ar lucky one.

I am not suborn... So what is TNT ?

[Rumblecat]

Cost of sending it TNT which is pretty safe is less than 700 baht. Probaby 2 days but if you ar lucky one.

I am not suborn... So what is TNT ?

Like the Thai version of Fed Ex.

http://www.tnt.com/express/en_th/site/home.html

[Tchooptip]

Cost of sending it TNT which is pretty safe is less than 700 baht. Probaby 2 days but if you ar lucky one.

I am not suborn... So what is TNT ?

Like the Thai version of Fed Ex.

http://www.tnt.com/express/en_th/site/home.html

Thank you for the link, as you could guess I did Googled it already, till now I did not found them in Samui, but thanks again!

[stevenl]

The hotel where you are staying should make the report to immigration. That said no one ever asked me on my travels throughout southern Thailand. Not immigration, not any hotel. Conclusion; no one cares. (Phuket seems to be an exception!)

So nobody ever made a copy of your passport when staying in a hotel?

[Gulfsailor]

The hotel where you are staying should make the report to immigration. That said no one ever asked me on my travels throughout southern Thailand. Not immigration, not any hotel. Conclusion; no one cares. (Phuket seems to be an exception!)

So nobody ever made a copy of your passport when staying in a hotel?

Only very rarely. I live on Samui, so times I stay in a hotel there are rare. And in that case my gf makes the booking and no one asks about my passport as I am a 'local'. On the Southern mainland I have never been asked to show a passport, even when traveling solo. In Bangkok my experience is opposite though. Almost always asked for a passport, even when gf is traveling with me.

[ubonjoe]

The hotel where you are staying should make the report to immigration. That said no one ever asked me on my travels throughout southern Thailand. Not immigration, not any hotel. Conclusion; no one cares. (Phuket seems to be an exception!)

So nobody ever made a copy of your passport when staying in a hotel?

Some hotels just enter the info from your passport and TM6 on their computer now. It has been some time since I stayed at one that made copies

[harrry]

TNT is an intedrational transport firm like FedEx or DHL.

I mentioned them because they do have internatinal standards fror their handling though they als operate in THailand. A local firm I have also usedd is Kerry Expressw whidch is marginally cheaper and also seems to have fair standrd. I did not realise you are in Samui though they will use an agent there I guess. I used to make a trip from Chiangrai to Bangkok every time my Oxgen DOncentrator needed service till the firm told me about them and that they use them. The 700 baht is for 18 kg so smaller is marginally cheaper. Of course a couple of deays off the island is nice too.

[fakser]

Please elaborate. Report to immigration what?

[Docno]

The hotel where you are staying should make the report to immigration. That said no one ever asked me on my travels throughout southern Thailand. Not immigration, not any hotel. Conclusion; no one cares. (Phuket seems to be an exception!)

So nobody ever made a copy of your passport when staying in a hotel?

Some hotels just enter the info from your passport and TM6 on their computer now. It has been some time since I stayed at one that made copies

Last week I was travelling around Petchabun province with my gf. My gf made reservations in advance at one resort-type place. When we arrived she produced her ID. I was surprised that when I offered my passport, they said no need. That place must be very advanced ... using face recognition, no doubt.

[Shadychris]

Please elaborate. Report to immigration what?

Yes I was wondering this.....

You are alrready officially in the country on a visa, and you are only travelling within the country so there is no need to report anything to immigration..

[12DrinkMore]

Please elaborate. Report to immigration what?

I am confused as well.

The only reason I can think of is that the OP reckons Samui is an island in a different country to Thailand.

I suppose it indicates the level of hotels I stay at, but 75% ask for payment daily in advance, no receipt, no ID required. And the others are happy with a driving license.

[12DrinkMore]

Please elaborate. Report to immigration what?

Yes I was wondering this.....

You are alrready officially in the country on a visa, and you are only travelling within the country so there is no need to report anything to immigration..

Actually I was enlightened on this a few months ago.

Apparently it is the law that we have to register our new address inside of 24 hours, but nobody bothers about it.

[Hornell]

This HAS to be a joke! I can't believe that someone who has lived here for a few years can be asking quite such a crass question. Go where you like in the country for (almost) as long as you like, produce your passport or let the wife/gf check in - whatever; I have been travelling around the country for up to ten days or so at a time for over 20 years and have never had any come back from immigration,police, government, army or Uncle Tom Cobley. For goodness sake - why stick your head above the parapet?

[Shadychris]

Please elaborate. Report to immigration what?

Yes I was wondering this.....

You are alrready officially in the country on a visa, and you are only travelling within the country so there is no need to report anything to immigration..

Actually I was enlightened on this a few months ago.

Apparently it is the law that we have to register our new address inside of 24 hours, but nobody bothers about it.

Ah so I guess its the case that that if you are on a retirement visa or similar you provide a residency address yes?? I have only ever been on 'Visa on entry' which requires no address to be given.

However the OP is not moving to a new address, he's just maybe staying overnight in another town so immigration arent goint to need to know that... Perhaps as another person said he thinks because Samui is an island its a different country ;-)

[arunsakda]

It is kind of like a troll but it points out that if you must follow the letter of the law at all times bacically one cannot even dare to leave the house. Like carrying passport. Whilst swimming? During the Songkhran festival? Ridiculous and impracticable.

[Gulfsailor]

Don't know the exact details, but I think the law states that holders of an extension of stay (how about visa and exempt?) staying in a province other than their 'home' province for longer than 24 hours need to report to local immigration or police if no local immigration is nearby. Exemption is when staying in a hotel who should report on behalf of the visitor.

[ThaiSanookGuy]

Also give them a sample of your dna in case no ? Incredible that some people even think about following so stupid rules !

[EnglishJohn]

If everybody stuck to the law in Thailand the place would grind to an immediate halt.

It's a case of pretending to the world you do one thing when in reality you don't. 'Face+Fake' : something you find a lot here.

[Doc46]

Cost of sending it TNT which is pretty safe is less than 700 baht. Probaby 2 days but if you ar lucky one.

I am not suborn... So what is TNT ?

TNT is an explosive,,,,,,,But the one he is talking about is a courier service /transport just about world wide.

[OZEMADE]

The hotel where you are staying should make the report to immigration. That said no one ever asked me on my travels throughout southern Thailand. Not immigration, not any hotel. Conclusion; no one cares. (Phuket seems to be an exception!)

So nobody ever made a copy of your passport when staying in a hotel?

Just came back from a trip around the top of Thailand up the Cambodian, Lau and down the Myanmar edge of Thailand. Stayed at 8 hotels and not one asked for a copy of my Passport. However on the trip south, Hua Hin, Phuket and a different hotel at Hua Hin on the return trip, all asked for a copy of passport.

[harrry]

Not touting for TNT but if you phone the call centre number on the website they will come and pick things up. Much easier and safer than using a local subagent directly.

[12DrinkMore]

Please elaborate. Report to immigration what?

Yes I was wondering this.....

You are alrready officially in the country on a visa, and you are only travelling within the country so there is no need to report anything to immigration..

Actually I was enlightened on this a few months ago.

Apparently it is the law that we have to register our new address inside of 24 hours, but nobody bothers about it.

Ah so I guess its the case that that if you are on a retirement visa or similar you provide a residency address yes?? I have only ever been on 'Visa on entry' which requires no address to be given.

However the OP is not moving to a new address, he's just maybe staying overnight in another town so immigration arent goint to need to know that... Perhaps as another person said he thinks because Samui is an island its a different country ;-)

It would take too much time to go and look it up, but it was also on TV and the Immigration regulation reference was given. I did check it out, there are two lines of responsibility,

- the landlord/hotel has to notify immigration of a foreigner staying on the premises.

- the foreigner also has to report where he is staying.

both within 24 hours.

If UbonJoe rolls up, he will clarify. He is da main man in these matters.

But the only reporting that is vigorously enforced, documented and computerised are those who have to report every 90 days, like me.

(Actually it was also me who posted the Samui Island is a foreign country as well )

Edited November 19, 2014 by 12DrinkMore

[merijn]

Ah so I guess its the case that that if you are on a retirement visa or similar you provide a residency address yes?? I have only ever been on 'Visa on entry' which requires no address to be given.

However the OP is not moving to a new address, he's just maybe staying overnight in another town so immigration arent goint to need to know that... Perhaps as another person said he thinks because Samui is an island its a different country ;-)

It would take too much time to go and look it up, but it was also on TV and the Immigration regulation reference was given. I did check it out, there are two lines of responsibility,

- the landlord/hotel has to notify immigration of a foreigner staying on the premises.

- the foreigner also has to report where he is staying.

both within 24 hours.

If UbonJoe rolls up, he will clarify. He is da main man in these matters.

But the only reporting that is vigorously enforced, documented and computerised are those who have to report every 90 days, like me.

(Actually it was also me who posted the Samui Island is a foreign country as well )

The hotel or landlord has to the reporting within 24 hrs of arrival.

If this is done the foreigner has to do nothing any more.

If the foreigner lives here in a house he can do the reporting himself as long he has the address information from the landlord.

So it is not both but either the hotel.landlord or the foreigner self will do the address registration.

[12DrinkMore]

- the landlord/hotel has to notify immigration of a foreigner staying on the premises.

- the foreigner also has to report where he is staying.

both within 24 hours.

If UbonJoe rolls up, he will clarify. He is da main man in these matters.

But the only reporting that is vigorously enforced, documented and computerised are those who have to report every 90 days, like me.

(Actually it was also me who posted the Samui Island is a foreign country as well )

The hotel or landlord has to the reporting within 24 hrs of arrival.

If this is done the foreigner has to do nothing any more.

If the foreigner lives here in a house he can do the reporting himself as long he has the address information from the landlord.

So it is not both but either the hotel.landlord or the foreigner self will do the address registration.

Reference: Immigration Act, B.E. 2522

http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/en/doc/Immigration_Act.pdf

Section 37.

An alien having received a temporary entry permit into the Kingdom must comply with the

following:

2. Shall stay at the place as indicated to the competent official. Where there is proper reason

that he cannot stay at the place as indicated to the competent official, he shall notify the competent official

of the change in residence , within 24 hours from the time of removing to said place.

3. Shall notify the police official of the local police station where such alien resides, within twenty

– four hours from the time of arrival. In the case of change in residence in which new residence is not

located the same area with the former police stations , such alien must notify the police official of the

police station for that area within twenty – four hours from the time of arrival.

4. If the alien travels to any province and will stay there longer than twenty – four hours , such

alien must notify the police official of the police station for that area within forty – eight hours from the time

of arrival

Section 38.

The house – master , the owner or the possessor of the residence , or the hotel manager

where the alien , receiving permission to stay temporary in the Kingdom has stayed , must notify the

competent official of the Immigration Office located in the same area with that hours , dwelling place or

hotel, within 24 hours from the time of arrival of the alien concerned. If there is no Immigration Office

located in that area , the local police official for that area must be notified.

That is the law.

Edited November 19, 2014 by 12DrinkMore

[Liquorice]

Temporary stay defined as either a Visa or an Extension.

No matter what you hold the maximum permitted time allowed to stay in Thailand is 90 days without either leaving and re-entry, or reporting to an Immigration office. The purpose of going to Immigration is to report your address every 90 days.

If you leave and re-enter you still state your address on the Arrivals card.

By the letter of the law if you stay somewhere other than your recorded residence for longer than 24 hours, then you should notify the local Police in that area.