Lite Beer Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 New Constitution draft to be ready next AprilBy Digital Content BANGKOK, Nov 22 -- National Legislative Assembly (NLA) Vice President Surachai Liangboonlertchai said Saturday the draft of a new Constitution will be completed by the middle of next April.Mr Surachai said, while chairing a programme called the ‘National Legislative Assembly meeting the people’ held at the parliament building, that the NLA has established a committee to compile opinions on drafting the Constitution from every sector in which the NLA would forward them to the Constitution Drafting Committee (CDC) so that they could be used during the charter drafting process.Representatives of democracy networks nationwide could send opinions to the NLA now, as the new draft Donstitution would be ready in mid April 2015, he said.Saturday’s programme, held for the first time by the NLA, will be conducted on a regular basis as it would allow the people to express opinions which would be used in national reform and on drafting the constitution, said Mr Surachai, adding that concerned parties wish the “new charter to be perfect.”In another development, Borwornsak Uwanno, secretary-general of King Prajadhipok’s Institute, said the new generations would have a significant role in leading the country in the right direction under a democratic system and under a free system which offers justice.Mr Borwornsak, also chairman of CDC, said besides being knowledgable, the new generation must be equipped with fine ethics by realising that others’ advantages are just important as one's own benefits. (MCOT online news) -- TNA 2014-11-22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noitom Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 They're drafting, they're covering, they're phasing. These Thais , they are something else. Right on top of everything. They have it nailed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 How long for the charter drafting process? This depends on the patience of the people whilst reform is being suggested. Now its your chance to voice your opinion at your local reform council, instead of making salutes and silly t-shirts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatsujin Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 They better first all decide what the word "ethics" actually means, cos their definition of it just doesn't seem to tally with the Dictionary definition. Mind you, I could say the same thing about 99% of the Politicians worldwide. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickirs Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 "the new generation must be equipped with fine ethics" How about the CURRENT military be instilled with the fine ethics of honoring constitutions and the rule of law prescribed by it instead of abolishing constitutions, creating its own rule of law, and giving themselves amensties for doing so? If a military institution is free to commit crimes against the State as defined by the Constitution and its rule of law, what is the point of future generations being equipped with "fine ethics?" In Thailand the path to sustained power is through the military institution, not through its civilian institutions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Talking of amnesties if YL hadn't pushed for an amnesty whitewashing her brothers crimes this could have saved her government from protesters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Talking of amnesties if YL hadn't pushed for an amnesty whitewashing her brothers crimes this could have saved her government from protesters. History say's she misinterpreted public sentiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 The draft will be ready by April, what is the time period for review and amendments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Will the final be approved by rubber stamp or stacked referendum? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Talking of amnesties if YL hadn't pushed for an amnesty whitewashing her brothers crimes this could have saved her government from protesters. Could have gone straight to the coup and missed out on the protests but then of course Suthep would have been out of a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ve37 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 The draft will be ready by April, what is the time period for review and amendments. I think what they're saying is,...the draft has been completed by the PDRC Elite, but must wait till April for the right astrological time to present it publically,...which is OK,...for the next 4 months will give the illusion that others were involved with the process. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Will the final be approved by rubber stamp or stacked referendum? It may as well be rubber stamped. If there is a referendum and it is voted in, those that oppose it will say that the referendum was stacked (like they are already predicting). If a constitution is rejected in a referendum with a No vote, what happens then? Delayed elections? An imposed constitution? Hopefully people actually look at the constitution and pass or reject it because of it's content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickirs Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Talking of amnesties if YL hadn't pushed for an amnesty whitewashing her brothers crimes this could have saved her government from protesters. The Constitutional Court stopped Yingluck in accordance with the 2007 Constitution. This is what is called "check & balance." What stopped the military from its violation of the Constitution? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickirs Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Will the final be approved by rubber stamp or stacked referendum? It may as well be rubber stamped. If there is a referendum and it is voted in, those that oppose it will say that the referendum was stacked (like they are already predicting). If a constitution is rejected in a referendum with a No vote, what happens then? Delayed elections? An imposed constitution? Hopefully people actually look at the constitution and pass or reject it because of it's content. I suspect if there is a referendum it will by by Dusit Survey. The results are probably already written - 95% support the new constitution? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 (edited) Will the final be approved by rubber stamp or stacked referendum? It may as well be rubber stamped. If there is a referendum and it is voted in, those that oppose it will say that the referendum was stacked (like they are already predicting). If a constitution is rejected in a referendum with a No vote, what happens then? Delayed elections? An imposed constitution? Hopefully people actually look at the constitution and pass or reject it because of it's content. "If a constitution is rejected in a referendum with a No vote, what happens then? Delayed elections? An imposed constitution?" That's how they stacked the last referendum, "Approve this or....." Edited November 22, 2014 by heybruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 A referendum on the peoples own reforms? Talk about nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binjalin Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 (edited) and you WILL be happy with it! BTW no opposition, no debates, no demos, no discussions, no conferences, NO alternative and confidence is pretty high people will accept it or we won't leave office! so there... PS Hobson's Choice Edited November 22, 2014 by binjalin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 The best constitutions cover a spirit or ethos of governance . they will inevitably try to micromanage their outcome. Anyone with the first character of their name as "Sh" will be banned from politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 A referendum on the peoples own reforms? Talk about nonsense. "the peoples own reforms" You continue to crack me up. In case you haven't figured it out, the people can propose all they want, but it will be the junta that decides. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Decides what the people want, with what suggestions they have from the people. And? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Decides what the people want, with what suggestions they have from the people. And? Yep, the junta decides what the people want, and what they can have. In what way do the people own the reforms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Because they suggested them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Decides what the people want, with what suggestions they have from the people. And? Yep, the junta decides what the people want, and what they can have. In what way do the people own the reforms? Because they suggested them! Like I wrote earlier, you continue to crack me up. People can suggest reforms, but have no control over what the junta decides to do. The reforms will be whatever the junta decides they will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 A referendum on the peoples own reforms? Talk about nonsense. "the peoples own reforms" You continue to crack me up. In case you haven't figured it out, the people can propose all they want, but it will be the junta that decides. no figuring it out needed. it's been pre-defined and laid out in black & white in the 'interim constitution' which states that the last word is the 'NCPO's' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksamuiguy Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Take a look at the 2007 Constitution (google it) it was voted on and passed by the Thai People. Take time to read it, what was wrong with that document I wonder. It made 'people All people" responsible for thier actions no matter what possition they were in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binjalin Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Take a look at the 2007 Constitution (google it) it was voted on and passed by the Thai People. Take time to read it, what was wrong with that document I wonder. It made 'people All people" responsible for thier actions no matter what possition they were in. you forget to mention? 'Hobson's Choice? there was NO alternative, there was NO campaigning allowed against it and, most importantly, the Army said "we will stay in power if you do not vote for it" now we will have "groundhog day" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Take a look at the 2007 Constitution (google it) it was voted on and passed by the Thai People. Take time to read it, what was wrong with that document I wonder. It made 'people All people" responsible for thier actions no matter what possition they were in. you forget to mention? 'Hobson's Choice? there was NO alternative, there was NO campaigning allowed against it and, most importantly, the Army said "we will stay in power if you do not vote for it" now we will have "groundhog day" So there's not really much point in having a referendum, is there? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerangutang Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Ready by April 1, perchance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attrayant Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 What is this, constitution #17? Don't forget to have your card punched, Thailand. Your 20th constitution is free! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binjalin Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Take a look at the 2007 Constitution (google it) it was voted on and passed by the Thai People. Take time to read it, what was wrong with that document I wonder. It made 'people All people" responsible for thier actions no matter what possition they were in. you forget to mention? 'Hobson's Choice? there was NO alternative, there was NO campaigning allowed against it and, most importantly, the Army said "we will stay in power if you do not vote for it" now we will have "groundhog day" So there's not really much point in having a referendum, is there? none whatsoever, better not to have one than manipulate the choice as "choose any colour car as long as it's black" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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