Swiss man 'commits suicide' at his East Pattaya Home

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Swiss man “commits suicide” at his East Pattaya Home

PATTAYA: -- A 69 year old Swiss resident of Pattaya appears to have committed suicide at his East Pattaya home on Monday afternoon, after he discharged himself from Hospital against the advice of medical staff.

Police and rescue workers made their way the house in the Pong area in East Pattaya and were directed to a ground floor toilet. Inside was the body of Mr. Pierre Georges Glauser. He was covered in blood due to a number of deep lacerations to his wrists, neck and stomach. Next to the body was a blood-stained knife and on the dining table of the house, a letter in English was found which detailed his reasons for the suicide.

Police spoke with the victim’s Thai Wife, Khun Wassana aged 35 who revealed that she had been married to Mr. Glauser for 6 years and the pair had a 5 year old child together.

On Sunday Night he was taken to Banglamung Hospital by his Wife, suffering from breathing difficulties, which was thought to have been caused by an ongoing health condition.

He was diagnosed with pulmonary edema and pneumonia and was taken to a 4th floor ward for further treatment. At 9am on Monday, He reportedly discharged himself against medical advice and told his Wife he refused to die in Hospital. He refused any medication and left with a warning that, if untreated, his current condition could lead to his death.

Full story: http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/155892/swiss-man-commits-suicide-at-his-east-pattaya-home/


-- Pattaya One 2014-11-25

[angiud]

R.I.P.

[steven100]

he should have stayed in hospital a few more days at least .....

RIP. swiss man

[petercool]

@Benroon- ThaiVisa took the article from the news source and any issues with their wording can be taken up with them and not with the forum.

[jacko45k]

A bit sad.

It sounds like pneumonia which responds well to antibiotic treatment.

Unless he knew differently.

[SOTIRIOS]

...it would suggest that it is not conclusive...

...one would question how it could happen with his wife present....

[petercool]

@ SOTIRIOS ...

The link continues with this ...

"He apparently locked himself in the toilet and she became concerned due to the length of time he was in there. A technician was fixing their swimming pool at the time and she asked him to break-open the door when the discovery of Mr. Glauser’s body was made."

[mrtoad]

Very sad RIP. Maybe there was more complications novo lived in his illness.

[12DrinkMore]

Poor guy.

But I would by far have preferred to die in hospital rather than using a knife on myself, leaving the whole mess to be discovered by my wife.

[Sviss Geez]

...it would suggest that it is not conclusive...

...one would question how it could happen with his wife present....

"...one would question how it could happen with his wife present...."

One might if one disregarded the fact that he had locked himself in the bathroom where his wife was not present.

[Cheftalk]

Sad to hear especially for the wife and 5 year old

Child,hope that at least he left money behind,that

They can live trouble free.

[petercool]

A few posts discussing irrelevant issues removed

[Krataiboy]

The picture accompanying this sad story in Pattaya One News, showing some individual pointing inanely at a blanked-out, bloody corpse, takes the biscuit for bad taste.

Do the proprietors of rags like this have any consideration for the feelings of the loved ones of suicide and murder victims whose corpses are so callously displayed before a vicarious public?

Gutter journalism of this kind is not only offensive, but it also devalues the Press and provides a weapon for those in authority who wish to newspapers' essential function as a watchdog of the people.

Clean up your grubby act, please.

[wanderluster]

i applaud the mans courage to do this... he is out of pain.. RIP and his wife and child dont have to watch him suffer any longer...

[petercool]

A few highly speculative and potentially defamatory posts were removed.

[joepattaya1961]

Poor guy.

But I would by far have preferred to die in hospital rather than using a knife on myself, leaving the whole mess to be discovered by my wife.

In Some way I can imagine why he did it. Probably no funds or sufficient insurance to cover the medical expenses, which would cause a very nasty way towards eternity.

Since most people are more afraid of the process of dying than death itself, he chose his own way.

Not very elegant and sad for wife and child.

R.I.P.

Edited November 25, 2014 by joepattaya1961

[Alwyn]

...it would suggest that it is not conclusive...

...one would question how it could happen with his wife present....

One would also question why the suicide note was in English and not German or French?

[outsider]

RIP. Sorry to hear about this. As an aside, and I could be wrong, but I thought pulmonary edema and pneumonia are both treatable? No wisecrack attempts here. It's an honest question to medical experts in the forum.

Edited November 25, 2014 by outsider

[Robroona]

While feeling sad about the man's state of mind which drove him to this, I feel even greater sadness for his 5 years old daughter. She is now left without a father, future uncertain.

I wonder why so many old men come to Thailand and have children. On any given day in major supermarkets, young kids with very old men as fathers are to be seen. In this case, the father would have been 80 when she was 16.

Should we teach birth control to the old men now, not just those starting out?

[dabhand]

While feeling sad about the man's state of mind which drove him to this, I feel even greater sadness for his 5 years old daughter. She is now left without a father, future uncertain.

I wonder why so many old men come to Thailand and have children. On any given day in major supermarkets, young kids with very old men as fathers are to be seen. In this case, the father would have been 80 when she was 16.

Should we teach birth control to the old men now, not just those starting out?

The 'old men' with young kids are not always their fathers. I am occasionally in Tesco Lotus, South Pattaya with my grand kids - yes, I've been here that long!!

Mind you, I quite enjoy walking around with my Thai daughter-in-law with the grandkids in tow. Receive a few interesting looks The wife doesn't always see the funny side, though!

RIP to the Swiss guy.

Edited November 25, 2014 by dabhand

[Shadychris]

Poor guy.

But I would by far have preferred to die in hospital rather than using a knife on myself, leaving the whole mess to be discovered by my wife.

In Some way I can imagine why he did it. Probably no funds or sufficient insurance to cover the medical expenses, which would cause a very nasty way towards eternity.

Since most people are more afraid of the process of dying than death itself, he chose his own way.

Not very elegant and sad for wife and child.

R.I.P.

Yes very sad. It would seem from a few of the comments here that some posters do not quite understand the implications of pulmonary edema or ongoing health problem as quoted in the article.

My father died of chronic pulmonary obstructive disease. It is incurable. It takes a long time to die. Think several years of having an oxygen bottle close to your side - unable to take more than a few steps before losing your breath and essentially being housebound and dependant on others for pretty much everything. I suspect the gentleman in question was well aware of what lay ahead for him, and also the ongoing suffering and pain that it would cause his wife and daughter to witness until the end.

@outsider - yes it is treatable but not curable. Treatable with steroids amongst other things which also then introduce other health problems.. but the final stages of this illness are really debilitating and require frequent visits to hospital. We cant know why the gentleman decided to end his life - but I rather suspect that he prefered to spare his daughter and wife the misery of watching him suffer and also to save what would likely be astronomical hospital costs and leave his family with as much as possible to provide for their future.

Edited November 25, 2014 by Shadychris

[petercool]

Poor taste post and reply quoting same were removed

[Shadychris]

...it would suggest that it is not conclusive...

...one would question how it could happen with his wife present....

One would also question why the suicide note was in English and not German or French?

I wouldn't question either how it could happen with his wife present - if indeed she was, or would I question why the note was in English rather than French or German.

As a Swiss national probably his second language after either French, German or Italian depending on his regionality, would have been English, in the same way that most Europeans second language is English. Quite possible he may have communicated with his wife in English.

If he was not fluent in Thai writing then it would be logical to choose English rather than German or French, as more chance of his wife and the authorities understanding it..

After only a few weeks membership of this forum it's already quite apparent that there is a considerable body of speculative conspiracy theorists on board here!

Edited November 25, 2014 by Shadychris

[Alwyn]

...it would suggest that it is not conclusive...

...one would question how it could happen with his wife present....

One would also question why the suicide note was in English and not German or French?

I wouldn't question either how it could happen with his wife present - if indeed she was, or would I question why the note was in English rather than French or German.

As a Swedish national probably his second language would have been English, in the same way that most Europeans second language is English. Quite possible he may have communicated with his wife in English.

If he was not fluent in Thai writing then it would be logical to choose English rather than Swiss, as more chance of his wife and the authorities understanding it..

After only a few weeks membership of this forum it's already quite apparent that there is a considerable body of speculative conspiracy theorists on board here!

He was Swiss, not Swedish. He was an old Swiss person so his English would be not brilliant. As a Swiss national his first language would have been German or French and second language (if he had one, would have been German or French - depending which one was his first). Younger Scandis might have a "second language" but most of the older ones do not - my in laws for example, I was married to a Swede who's parents could not speak one word of English. I think you're confused about his nationality and his age. I doubt very much because of his age he could have written a letter in English - I might also be wrong but I know two older Swiss guys in Phuket and there English consists of grunts and shouts of "beer" etc, they cannot string two words together. Other than your confusion over nationalities etc, what was your point?

[Shadychris]

...it would suggest that it is not conclusive...

...one would question how it could happen with his wife present....

One would also question why the suicide note was in English and not German or French?

I wouldn't question either how it could happen with his wife present - if indeed she was, or would I question why the note was in English rather than French or German.

As a Swedish national probably his second language would have been English, in the same way that most Europeans second language is English. Quite possible he may have communicated with his wife in English.

If he was not fluent in Thai writing then it would be logical to choose English rather than Swiss, as more chance of his wife and the authorities understanding it..

After only a few weeks membership of this forum it's already quite apparent that there is a considerable body of speculative conspiracy theorists on board here!

He was Swiss, not Swedish. He was an old Swiss person so his English would be not brilliant. As a Swiss national his first language would have been German or French and second language (if he had one, would have been German or French - depending which one was his first). Younger Scandis might have a "second language" but most of the older ones do not - my in laws for example, I was married to a Swede who's parents could not speak one word of English. I think you're confused about his nationality and his age. I doubt very much because of his age he could have written a letter in English - I might also be wrong but I know two older Swiss guys in Phuket and there English consists of grunts and shouts of "beer" etc, they cannot string two words together. Other than your confusion over nationalities etc, what was your point?

No confusion over his nationality or his age - simple mistake in writing Swedish instead of Swiss, mind on three things at the same time ;-)

As a 'Swiss' national, of course his first language may also have been Italian, or very remote chance that it was Romantsch!

So setting aside the premise that becuase the 4 older generation Scandinavians you happen to know do not speak English meaning that no other older Scandinavians have any English abilty, why would you question the note being in English? For all you know the guy might have been an English teacher.. Maybe he used Google translate? Similarly why would one question how it could happen with his wife present? The article does not even state that she was there at the time, and even if she was, if he had locked himself in the bathroom how could she have prevented it?

<edit> seems there is now further information suggesting this is exactly what happened!

Taking the facts that we do know i.e that he was a very sick and terminaly ill elderly gentleman, who discharged himself from hospital stating that he did not want to die there; then went home and was later found with his wrists cut, would not really indicate anything other than the gentleman taking his own life.

So to answer your question, my point is why question either?

I guess the answer is becuase there will always be those who find more excitement and intrigue in drumming up their conspiracy theories and making speculative suggestions of nefarious motives or actions - pretty well evidenced by the number of moderated posts on this thread already.

Edited November 25, 2014 by Shadychris

[Shadychris]

After only a few weeks membership of this forum it's already quite apparent that there is a considerable body of speculative conspiracy theorists on board here!

Oh boy stick around, you ain't seen nothing yet !!!!

Im a bit too new here to really associate names with viewpoints, but I rather suspect that it's the case that these 'armchair Inspector Clousseaus' are maybe the same ones I often see criticizing the RTP for ineptness yes?

[Rooney860]

Great eh, the TV Special Branch are out in force again!!!!!

55555555

[johnnybgood]

Sad ending, his note may have been in English for the benefit of his Thai wife.

RIP old guy.

[Bpuumike]

 

RIP. Sorry to hear about this. As an aside, and I could be wrong, but I thought pulmonary edema and pneumonia are both treatable? No wisecrack attempts here. It's an honest question to medical experts in the forum.

I believe a pulmonary edema is in a very different bracket to pneumonia which can normally be easily treated.