simonuk Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Losing credibility by the day. Does that man have no advisors???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBobThai Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 A reminder here: Please use discretion in your references to the government. Phrases which can be considered as anti-coup will be removed. Referring to Thailand or the government as a dictatorship, military dictatorship or other such terms will be removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustBucket Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 I think Prayuth has bitten off more than he can chew with this coup. He seems to be having a little temper tantrum every day now about what people say. He started reacting to criticism, he now loses it by just someone airing there personal view nowadays. Even bursting out at the media for asking simple questions and blaming them for picking on him is a display that he is reaching his limits. The guy is paranoid. This is symptomatic of someone who has realized he has punched way above his weight. Now sees everything as a personal attack. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fat Haggis Posted November 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2014 Have an election tomorrow,and the Country will be back to the brink of civil war in no time,nothing will have changed, regards Worgeordie And you know this how? Let's look at it logically shall we? 7% of the country according to the polls and some posters here consist of UDD militant hardcore member right? That's a whopping 4.5 million people to arm every single one if these with an assault rifle and ammunition is the following 4.5 million assault rifles+ 5 magazines = 22,500,000 magazines 30 rounds per magazine = 675,000,000 round of ammo Do you honestly think that the 7% has that amount of weapons and ammo? If they have that, Which is what you'd need as a bare minimum to even stage a huge operation. Then you need same amount of ammo for sustaining operations because 5 magazine each will last about 20 minutes in a sustained firefight. Unless your fire discipline is that of a professional soldier you will burn through ammo at an alarming rate. Again unless you have the logistics to support your guys any combat isn't going to last long before your logistics ends your ops. It doesn't even matter if it's only 1% the weapons and ammunition logistics is still going to be an issue. Now add the Yellow militant factions who would also need the same logistics Throw in the civilian population who would start acquiring weapons. Next up is what and who would the Reds be targeting? The Government and the Military? That's an insurgency not a civil war. If you honestly believe that civil war would erupt if the junta wasn't in power you're naive really, if they had the means before when they were more popular it means they have the means and logistics now. The weapons caches and ammunition seized so far isnt even enough to equip a battalion sized strength which be worrying if that 7% only is intent in going to war based on the logistics I gave above. Now onto CCCC to begin an insurgency you need to have your intelligence sources locating targets you need to have not one, but several brains behind this, and that means high ranking military personnel with the knowledge if covert operations Assymetric warfare. For example the Iraqi army was infiltrated very early on by former Baathists and AQ terrorists, as was the Afghan army and police. Which means that you already have these brains serving inside the RTA right now. I could really write a whole lot more , and you will have noticed that I have deliberately not mentioned the Deep South which there's already civil war ongoing within the country, you cannot start what's already taking place, it can escalate and spread througout the country. But to do this again you have to link up with the Southern groups. Instead of the general whining about this 7% which I think is actually an underestimation too, if he and his Intelligence people really feared an escalation of civil war spreading, he should be sweeping the country on a massive military operation attesting and detaining all MAMs (military Aged males) suspected of being militants of the red shirt faction and similarly those of the yellow persuasion too, an example there would be Surheps former guards. The country would be under lockdown even tighter than it was before there would be huge military operations goin on inside red villages lots of detentions and searches the borders would be sealed better than what they are now and road travel would be severely restricted, I see no difference today from 22nd May going back future back to Nov-Dec 2012 with regards to RTA presence. Let's have a quick look at the RTA which is for better part a conscript army and not a professional one, do you think these conscript/watermelon soldiers would stay put in their units or would you be more inclined to think they would drop their uniforms and head home to their families and villages? I shall put this into perspective for you, I was in Iraq when 10-20,000 combatants swept across the northern part of the country in under 48 hours had it under control, Iraqi army units deserted in their tens of thousands along with their weapons equipment. 48 hours!!!! And not a single Western Intelligence agency nor the Iraqi intelligence agency expected this,although I have my suspicions about the CIA ? The whole of Iraq was caught napping as it was focusing on its own internal politics !!!!! If there really was a threat Worgeordie, the various foreign offices would have issued instructions to leave the country as soon as possible due to imminent war. I dont believe any such instructions were handed down not a single embassy wrapped up their affairs and bolted from Thailand, which to me is an indication that the talk of civil war was just that, talk, scare tactics, making things out to be worse than they are. Only you yourself can believe civil war was coming/imminent and that's your prerogative and I respect that, but for me looking at it from an analytical point if view, it was nowhere near all out civil war. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post daveAustin Posted November 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2014 He's not a politician, is he. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binnsy1 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Face up to it finding fault with the party/junta in power is something that happens all over the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captspectre Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 his weekly Tv chats? make that daily chats! however he has done one good thing and that is keep the red and yellow shirts from bothering the general public. AND he has shown leadership and seems to be really trying to get the country back on track. Thailand has NEVER been a democracy! just check out the leaders from 1969 to now. personaly I would give the man a chance to finish his idea for the country. many Thai's are behind him and he certainlky hasn't did worse then the people before him. suthep had seven arrest warrants out for him and walked the streets with impunity. however when the general took charge suthep became a monk! how's that for hypocriecy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felipesed Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 He's not a politician, is he. Maybe not, but I do believe he is sincere, loyal to the King and Country, and trying to build a better Thailand. Characteristics which the majority of career politicians, in any country, do not possess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabothai Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Generals by virtue of their job don't want to be questioned. when they are they will throw a fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commerce Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Even Augusto Pinochet must be laughing in his grave! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commerce Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 He's not a politician, is he. Apparently, he doesn't know what he is! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneday Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 The new PM doesn't seem to get it. The only way people could not find fault is if the government made all the people happy all the time and was basically perfect. Since no government is perfect that means there WILL be fault to find. But let's call this fault constructive CRITICISM which the government needs to wisely pay attention to. Otherwise, they are doing nothing to make a government that the people want, but a government that THEY want. This is as far from a Democratic process as you can get. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baghdad Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 People can critizes Prayut as much as they want to but the fact is his done a lot more good than the previous government since he took power. Support is what this country needs not critizem 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ColdSingha Posted November 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2014 Wasn't the government removed because it apparently was doing a poor job, and people were not happy? isn't that what elections are for? well technically the minority was unhappy and they couldnt win an election. the bit of thailand north of bangkok (look on a map, thats the big bit) were quite happy with the last gov and were quite happy to keep voting them in again and again and again.. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plutojames88 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 He may be telling the truth and is getting frustrated . The longer I read his comments I am starting to think he may be honestly trying to transform the Nation. Guess time will tell. I envision a few reporters might get re- education courses soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOC Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 He's not a politician, is he. Maybe not, but I do believe he is sincere, loyal to the King and Country, and trying to build a better Thailand. Characteristics which the majority of career politicians, in any country, do not possess. I know plenty of people who are sincere, loyal to the king and country, but they are not pretending to be PM"s!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Haggis Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Sincerity in politicians ? Is there such a thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdSingha Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Thailand seems to suffer from this need for officials to blab off their mouths at every opportunity with a deluge of crap just to fill their need for self importance, we have seen it time and time again, all it does is lead to confusion and miss-information you are joking right? that deluge of crap is the truth leaking out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxclever Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 "If you really want the election to be held tomorrow I will be ready. But do you really want it? I don't understand what you want from me"....What the people want Mr. General is a free and democratic election. Tell the truth, the reason you need more time is to rig the system so that this can never happen so you can stay in power forever! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOC Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Time for the army to return to the barracks and take the retired generals with them!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lewy67 Posted November 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> He's not a politician, is he. Apparently, he doesn't know what he is! Well he's a leader (dear or not) a prime minister (Vietnam and Laos both have prime minsters so why can't Thailand?) and a general. He's not a dictator, his government is not a military junta or a totalitarian dictatorship. He didn't lead a coup or overthrow an elected government otherwise that would qualify him to be what he isn't (because it has been dictated that he isn't!). But his government (not junta) has imposed martial law and restricted what people can say and with whom and in what numbers they can meet and what signs they can make (and with how many fingers) and what food they can eat in public. I wonder if he pines for a simpler time, before social media scrutiny, when a dictator could just dictate and anyone who questioned - well it was up against the wall? Mao never had to put up with this. Pol Pot didn't cop this scrutiny. Stalin and Hitler never had to pretend to be touchy - feely. Now wonder he seems confused and appears overwhelmed. Not an easy gig being a non elected, but at the same time non dictatorial leader, in these modern times, is it? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JOC Posted November 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2014 "If you really want the election to be held tomorrow I will be ready. But do you really want it? I don't understand what you want from me"....What the people want Mr. General is a free and democratic election. Tell the truth, the reason you need more time is to rig the system so that this can never happen so you can stay in power forever! Spot on!! All the manipulation,impeachments and maneuvering taking place at the moment, have only one goal in sight: An elitist appointed "peoples" council!! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 If you can't take the heat in the kitchen old son you had better get out, if everyone didn't say anything about the sad state of affairs or the faults General , you would be receiving disinformation and we can't have that , now can we. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post yellowboat Posted November 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2014 We keep hearing from some foriegners and Thais that the "coup has done good things for the country". The statement has never been qualified even once. What good has the coup done ? What specific changes does it hope to make ? Upon making those changes, when will elections take place ? Statements like "I am not 100% democractic and not 100% non democratic" are vague and show poor govermance. Foriegners who agree with the coup and who come from representative governments I find most peculiar. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tbthailand Posted November 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2014 Have an election tomorrow,and the Country will be back to the brink of civil war in no time,nothing will have changed, regards Worgeordie the country was never on the brink of civil war. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felipesed Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 We keep hearing from some foriegners and Thais that the "coup has done good things for the country". The statement has never been qualified even once. What good has the coup done ? What specific changes does it hope to make ? Upon making those changes, when will elections take place ? Statements like "I am not 100% democractic and not 100% non democratic" are vague and show poor govermance. Foriegners who agree with the coup and who come from representative governments I find most peculiar. I come from the UK originally, and the government there certainly does not represent the will of the people. I think the same can be said of France, possibly Germany, and, it would appear, the USA. As regards what the Government here has achieved, how about exposing the rice scandal, arresting crooked policemen (strange how the previous Shinawatra administrations never managed to uncover that), arresting murderers of demonstrators in Bangkok and recovering a huge haul of stolen weapons. We are 6 months in to a new administration. They have many years of corruption and negligence to fix. Why not try waiting and see how they do before you rush in with your criticism, or were you perfectly happy with the Shinawatra regime and considered it a role model for other governments? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 "If you really want the election to be held tomorrow I will be ready. But do you really want it? yes. but dear 'PM', you are actually lying, because you would never do that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 We keep hearing from some foriegners and Thais that the "coup has done good things for the country". The statement has never been qualified even once. What good has the coup done ? What specific changes does it hope to make ? Upon making those changes, when will elections take place ? Statements like "I am not 100% democractic and not 100% non democratic" are vague and show poor govermance. Foriegners who agree with the coup and who come from representative governments I find most peculiar. I come from the UK originally, and the government there certainly does not represent the will of the people. I think the same can be said of France, possibly Germany, and, it would appear, the USA. As regards what the Government here has achieved, how about exposing the rice scandal, arresting crooked policemen (strange how the previous Shinawatra administrations never managed to uncover that), arresting murderers of demonstrators in Bangkok and recovering a huge haul of stolen weapons. We are 6 months in to a new administration. They have many years of corruption and negligence to fix. Why not try waiting and see how they do before you rush in with your criticism, or were you perfectly happy with the Shinawatra regime and considered it a role model for other governments? a new 'administration? Orwell was a Brit, was he not? And just as an aside, after waiting a bit longer to see how the new 'administration' does, what will be the alternatives? Oh, yeah, and when was the last time that self-governance was forcibly taken from the people in GB? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DiamondKing Posted November 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2014 Have an election tomorrow,and the Country will be back to the brink of civil war in no time,nothing will have changed, regards Worgeordie Because the people will vote in who they want to vote in unfortunately that will not jive with the Political elite WILL IT Now if the military DID THEIR JOB and when protests become violent how about PROTECTING THE ELECTED GOVERNMENT instead of staging a coup I would of thought that would be smarter move and of course the correct move. If they held elections and a Thaksin won again that would be 3 times and time to let the people have their vote and the military support the people by protecting the decision of the people. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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