Marriage visa based on Superannuation

[sevenseconds]

Hi all,

Could someone help me? I am an Australian living in Thailand, and I would like to know if I am able to obtain a marriage visa if I get a Statutory Declaration from the Australian Embassy stating that I have the required minimum of 400,000 bt a year, and than use a statement which I could print out online from my super fund in Australia, which shows that I have $120,000 AUD, (which is approx. 3 million bt) to show that I have sufficient income?

I cannot access this for another 6 years, but it will show my name, and the money I have in the account.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.

[MJCM]

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[Mario2008]

For the visa itself from the Thai consulate you normally do not need to show financials. But you seem to be asking about an extension of stay.

The requirement is that you have an income of 40,000 a month (is 480,000 a year) OR 400,000 baht in a bank account in Thailand for 2 months prior to applying for an extension.

If you do not meet the requirement you can get a multiple non-O visa in Savanakhet, Laos.

[louse1953]

No.

[Tassie Norm]

Fellow Aussie here mate. Based on my experience - attend an Aussie Embassy, for those up north it may be more convenient to attend in Vientiane. Does not have to be Bangkok. Anyway, for around 500B they will provide and witness your stat dec. I simply state that what I receive monthly - note that no evidence is required. Although married I prefer to stay with a so-called retirement visa (O-A) thus income should be equal to or exceed 65,000B per month. My declaration is in A$ and I simply attach a note converting it to Baht at an average exchange rate. Strictly speaking, and I mean strictly, the document should be endorsed by Thai Foreign Affairs - I don't bother and have never had a problem during the past 3 years up here at Nong Khai immigration. Have tried here to stick to the subject matter - hope it helps cobber, cheers

[Mario2008]

Immigration will in all likelyhood not accept a statement from an embassy in another country if that country has an embassy in Thailand itself.

[jacksam]

Your super fund you say is not accessible for 6 years. This means you have zero saving or income stream if relying on this. The money in a Thai bank is accessible. A stat dec from au embassy here in Thailand about your monthly income needs to be (should be) accurate. Honest. Otherwise you are making a false declaration. Don't do that, as when you apply for extension io may wish to see evidence to back up your stat dec.

You have stated nothing about income or saving in bank account

[jacksam]

Sevenseconds. You are confusing income with assets. For example you may own a house worth 500k aud with no mortgage. This will account for nothing for purposes of visa.

[Suradit69]

Fellow Aussie here mate. Based on my experience - attend an Aussie Embassy, for those up north it may be more convenient to attend in Vientiane. Does not have to be Bangkok. Anyway, for around 500B they will provide and witness your stat dec. I simply state that what I receive monthly - note that no evidence is required. Although married I prefer to stay with a so-called retirement visa (O-A) thus income should be equal to or exceed 65,000B per month. My declaration is in A$ and I simply attach a note converting it to Baht at an average exchange rate. Strictly speaking, and I mean strictly, the document should be endorsed by Thai Foreign Affairs - I don't bother and have never had a problem during the past 3 years up here at Nong Khai immigration. Have tried here to stick to the subject matter - hope it helps cobber, cheers

"I prefer to stay with a so-called retirement visa (O-A) thus income should be equal to or exceed 65,000B per month. "

You may have entered Thailand using an O-A visa obtained at an embassy or consulate, but if you're continuing in Thailand by showing you have an income of Baht 65,000 a month, that has nothing to do with a visa or a so-called visa, it's an extension of stay, which is neither a visa nor is it an extension of a visa (visas are never extended).

At least in some cases the document from you embassy would be addressed to Thai Immigrations and signed by an embassy person known to Thai immigrations as currently serving at the embassy. Doubt they would accept a document from an embassy in another country.

[macgver]

The Immigration Bangkok will never accept any mutual or stock fund abroad, even you have a huge amount of fund. Even Australian Embassy can verified your fund, the officer will reject your application.

Unless you have a salary from abroad, you need to bring your documents (income and personal tax, must be equivalent to 40,000 baht/per month) to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs at your home country to verified it. Then bring your certified documents to your embassy in Bangkok to issue a letter to the Immigration Bangkok. Then you will get the Non-Imm O Visa.

Otherwise you must show your Thai bank account have 400,000 baht for 2 months (cannot use the 400,000 baht). Then you go and update your bank book and show the officer that today, you have the amount money to meet the requirement. Then you will get Non-Imm O Visa.

[ubonjoe]

The Immigration Bangkok will never accept any mutual or stock fund abroad, even you have a huge amount of fund. Even Australian Embassy can verified your fund, the officer will reject your application.

Unless you have a salary from abroad, you need to bring your documents (income and personal tax, must be equivalent to 40,000 baht/per month) to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs at your home country to verified it. Then bring your certified documents to your embassy in Bangkok to issue a letter to the Immigration Bangkok. Then you will get the Non-Imm O Visa.

Otherwise you must show your Thai bank account have 400,000 baht for 2 months (cannot use the 400,000 baht). Then you go and update your bank book and show the officer that today, you have the amount money to meet the requirement. Then you will get Non-Imm O Visa.

Immigration in Bangkok seldom if ever ask for back up proof for a income letter, stat declaration. affidavit and etc.

If you could show a bank book with fund coming into the country they will accept that for back up proof.

All the the things you mentioned would not be needed.

[sevenseconds]

Thanks for all your replies, they were very helpful. I was going to go the the Australian Embassy in BKK to get the stat dec, and show my super funds, although I couldn't access it I thought that they perhaps would not bother asking me that as it wouldn't show it on the statement, only that I have the money in there. I thought this may have been enough to get me by.

I don't have the funds at the moment, but will ensure that I have sufficient next time.

Thank you!

[macgver]

The Immigration Bangkok will never accept any mutual or stock fund abroad, even you have a huge amount of fund. Even Australian Embassy can verified your fund, the officer will reject your application.

Unless you have a salary from abroad, you need to bring your documents (income and personal tax, must be equivalent to 40,000 baht/per month) to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs at your home country to verified it. Then bring your certified documents to your embassy in Bangkok to issue a letter to the Immigration Bangkok. Then you will get the Non-Imm O Visa.

Otherwise you must show your Thai bank account have 400,000 baht for 2 months (cannot use the 400,000 baht). Then you go and update your bank book and show the officer that today, you have the amount money to meet the requirement. Then you will get Non-Imm O Visa.

Immigration in Bangkok seldom if ever ask for back up proof for a income letter, stat declaration. affidavit and etc.

If you could show a bank book with fund coming into the country they will accept that for back up proof.

All the the things you mentioned would not be needed.

Yes, I agreed! Showing the proof of fund coming inside Thailand. This is what I said. However, when I was dealing with the Bangkok Immigration Officer, they told me that I need to get a letter from my embassy for the proof of income. I contacted my embassy, they told me that I need to get a clearance from my home, Ministry of Foreign Affairs first, then they will issue a letter to the Immigration Bangkok. The home Ministry of Foreign Affairs also told me that I need to bring the income or salary or employment letter from my employer + personal tax declaration, then they will certified the proof of income.

This is the conditions.

[macgver]

Thanks for all your replies, they were very helpful. I was going to go the the Australian Embassy in BKK to get the stat dec, and show my super funds, although I couldn't access it I thought that they perhaps would not bother asking me that as it wouldn't show it on the statement, only that I have the money in there. I thought this may have been enough to get me by.

I don't have the funds at the moment, but will ensure that I have sufficient next time.

Thank you!

You just need to go to the Bangkok Immigration and ask them first. Some immigration officer is friendly and some are not. So no harm to check with them first.

[Jaggg88]

The Immigration Bangkok will never accept any mutual or stock fund abroad, even you have a huge amount of fund. Even Australian Embassy can verified your fund, the officer will reject your application.

Unless you have a salary from abroad, you need to bring your documents (income and personal tax, must be equivalent to 40,000 baht/per month) to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs at your home country to verified it. Then bring your certified documents to your embassy in Bangkok to issue a letter to the Immigration Bangkok. Then you will get the Non-Imm O Visa.

Otherwise you must show your Thai bank account have 400,000 baht for 2 months (cannot use the 400,000 baht). Then you go and update your bank book and show the officer that today, you have the amount money to meet the requirement. Then you will get Non-Imm O Visa.

Immigration in Bangkok seldom if ever ask for back up proof for a income letter, stat declaration. affidavit and etc.

If you could show a bank book with fund coming into the country they will accept that for back up proof.

All the the things you mentioned would not be needed.

Yes, I agreed! Showing the proof of fund coming inside Thailand. This is what I said. However, when I was dealing with the Bangkok Immigration Officer, they told me that I need to get a letter from my embassy for the proof of income. I contacted my embassy, they told me that I need to get a clearance from my home, Ministry of Foreign Affairs first, then they will issue a letter to the Immigration Bangkok. The home Ministry of Foreign Affairs also told me that I need to bring the income or salary or employment letter from my employer + personal tax declaration, then they will certified the proof of income.

This is the conditions.

Different embassies have different rules. The UK Embassy requires you to provide documented evidence of income whereas the USA and Australian Embassies just require their citizens to swear an affidavit (declaration) of their earning - no proof required. I've never had mine ratified by the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs (although you are supposed to) and never been asked for back up evidence

[Time Traveller]

it will be accepted if you transfer it a thai bank account first. Otherwise, no.

[Liquorice]

Time Traveller, on 03 Dec 2014 - 21:33, said:

it will be accepted if you transfer it a thai bank account first. Otherwise, no.

If you use the monthly income method, i.e 40,000 baht, then you don't need to keep any money in a Thai bank account.

[paz]

it will be accepted if you transfer it a thai bank account first. Otherwise, no.

Not necessarily. For example, the OP could setup a "super income stream" to be deposited into his bank account for at least the equivalent of thb 40,000.

https://www.ato.gov.au/Individuals/Super/In-detail/Receiving-benefits/Withdrawing-your-super-and-paying-tax/

That alone would allowed a true and demonstrable sworn affidavit. It would not even needed to transfer the entire sum to Thailand.