Letter from two accused of Koh Tao murders to Daw Aung San Suu Kyi Myanmar Democracy icon

[boomerangutang]

Good article in the Guardian. Thanks for pointing that out lildragon.

[BoristheBlade]

If the Burmese are executed, it will simply be state sponsored murder.

And Thailand will be shown to the world to be an evil nation.

[BoristheBlade]

On the matter of critical thinking.

WHY have the RTP NEVER sought CCTV evidence from the AC bar?

I think I am right in saying there is a CCTV retail shop a few doors away from the AC Bar which is owned by a family member of the head man.

The AC Bar and resort have no CCTV?.. Lies, where is the CCTV from the night of the murders Mr Headman?.....

Get this arrogant individual in the witness stand at the trial and ask the questions, lets see him answer to the court.

The RTP have said the Burmese raped because they became aroused when they witnessed the British couple been intimate on the beach.

Insulting lies, Hanna and David were never an item, indeed all the evidence shown by the RTP ie cctv and released photo in the AC bar show quite the opposite. At no time were David and Hanna shown to be together.

The truth is David was walking near his accommodation and heard Hanna in distress, because he was a conscientious gentleman he went to her aid and was brutally murdered.

I fully agree with everything in your post and I think exactly the same! You are correct: at NO time they were seen together. If CCTV coverage of that exists you can bet your a*** you would have seen that by now as it backs-up the RTP's case. It simply does not exist. Therefore it would be interesting to see the CCTV footage of the AC bar, unfortunately Captain Eureka and the AC-boys can't find it? I think it would show some interesting observations....

I believe she was targeted the minute she walked in, was harassed and possibly date rape drugged. As she walked back (on her own or escorted) to her apartment/crime scene (very close by) David must have seen/heard something as the events unfolded. That is why David has puncture wounds and his knuckles show he must have fought his attacker(s) (as per RTP early days). He had no chance, but must have given one hell of fight as he has multiple puncture wounds. (Sean knows he was a hero trying to save her).

They drowned him to be sure he is dead, stripped him of his clothes (forgot one sock) and made it look like a couple having sex on the beach (dropped a (unused) condom).The position how they did find Hannah with her knees up in 45 degree angle is enough proof for me this was a Thai Picasso at work.

As I said IMHO, but much more credible than two small B2 guys attacking a 6ft+ Goliath, rape & kill them and then steal his sunglasses & an iphone.

[Expat Girl]

On Tuesday Thai junta chief and prime minister Prayut Chan-Ocha appeared to call into question the victims' conduct in addition to the perpetrators of the attack.

'We have to look into the behaviour of the other party too because this kind of incident should not happen to anybody and it has affected our image,' he told reporters, referring to the two tourists.

Police earlier said the pair had been seen partying at a local bar just hours before they died.

Sky News 16th Sept.

This statement was made the day after the murders by the prime minister. When I first head it it seemed an outrageous and insensitive statement to make. But now after all that has passed in the investigation, I am left wondering whether this was not just a stupid passing remark founded on nothing, but that the 'victims' conduct'/'behaviour' could be related to an argument that took place in the bar. If Mon was allowed all over the crime scene with the police, no doubt he also had plenty to tell them about his side of the story which may have painted a bleak picture of the victims behaviour before they were murdered. Pure speculation on my part of course. Anything for justice.

How does "pure speculation" benefit justice?

Facts benefit justice, pure speculation detracts from justice.

Pure speculation may warrant investigation, possibly leading to facts being discovered, which in turn may affect the outcome/justice of the case .

Ah.... That explains my tax dollars being spent on the pure speculation that the world is flat

...

Despite us knowing that it is not.

JD your awesome, i respect your posts given the high quality of dialogue you bring to this forum, keep up the good work, we all appreciate it, no sarcasm intended.

[llz]

A press conference is announced on the 18th in Yangun/Rangoon with the members of the Burmese Investigation Team.

[finflixmaria]

So the defence can know nothing of witness statements etc, but the prosecution gets all their witnesses reports and most probably get to those witnesses before the trial. That isnt a new thing in this corrupt and appalling shamble of what is supposed to be The Thai Justice System. I was living in Thailand for 14 years, still have a home there but feel reluctant to return and put more dollars in the greedy, corrupt population with no decent morals. The total disregard of what other countries think of them, and the propaganda they feed the uneducated thai people who tend to believe what ever they are told by those deemed to be in power. I have a Thai step mum and even she cant believe whats gone on in this case. Funnily enough the minute I heard about the murders I predicted to my husband exactly what would happen, what nationality it would be pinned on and who I felt sure probably had involvement in the actual murders! How come ? because it has happened many a time, just this time it got out to the rest of the world. I hope justice will happen for the poor murdered couple so as the can RIP. I would bet my life on it those two boys are innocent.

This is an absolutely understandable cry for help back home from two young boys in a foreign country facing life imprisonment, or worse.

We cannot obviously be judge or jury.

We can only allow intuition and empathy to guide our feelings, and the way the case has already been handled, probably most of us on this forum, plus countless millions around the world, already feel that their guilt is in doubt.

If they are found not guilty, the credibility of the authorities, and the 'convincing evidence' will be in tatters. Worse, the murderer(s) will still be at large.

If they are found guilty, and if the evidence is not absolutely irrefutable, the world and the media will react accordingly. In this case, their letter sent to Aung San Suu Kyi will add considerable emotion to this.

In either scenario, Thailand's already battered image will be at stake.

Whatever, let us all hope that for the sake of the accused, and the bereaved families involved in this tragedy, that transparency, honesty, and absolute justice will prevail.

[Krenjai]

A press conference is announced on the 18th in Yangun/Rangoon with the members of the Burmese Investigation Team.

I hope the international community will attend and the pressure will mount on Nomsod & Mon.....they can't be feeling too comfortable these days.

[keru]

I think the thai authority in charge of this case or whoever is involved in this case be it the PM or who ever is involved in this case should be charged with crimes against humanity if those allegations on limitations set for the defense rights and previlages in court. One suggestion to the Myanmar Government stop All PTT business in Myanmar. Long live the king.

[thailandchilli]

Am I missing some reports but didn't that lowlife Mon and his local police sidekick captured threatening Sean refuse to give any DNA. Thats certainly what I remember about the early events and reported in numerous online media sites and never seen other reports contradicting that?

McAnna, a busker well known on Koh Tao as Guitarman, took a photo of the Thais and uploaded it to the Internet, after which he began receiving death threats. He has now apparently fled into hiding in fear for his life.Police revealed that the two Thais had been interviewed but were released after refusing to provide DNA samples.

http://time.com/3420299/thailand-koh-tao-murder-hannah-witheridge-david-miller/

Edited December 16, 2014 by thailandchilli

[Mooner]

Am I missing some reports but didn't that lowlife Mon and his local police sidekick captured threatening Sean refuse to give any DNA. Thats certainly what I remember about the early events and reported in numerous online media sites and never seen other reports contradicting that?

McAnna, a busker well known on Koh Tao as Guitarman, took a photo of the Thais and uploaded it to the Internet, after which he began receiving death threats. He has now apparently fled into hiding in fear for his life.Police revealed that the two Thais had been interviewed but were released after refusing to provide DNA samples.

http://time.com/3420299/thailand-koh-tao-murder-hannah-witheridge-david-miller/

I'm expecting the usual reply of they were early suspects and cleared.

Nothing to see here.

[Willy Eckerslike]

A press conference is announced on the 18th in Yangun/Rangoon with the members of the Burmese Investigation Team.

Why would they hold this Press Conference on the same day that the Defence and Prosecution teams have to hand in their cases to the court? why not wait til the 19th or better still, before on the 17th?

EDIT, Unless God Forbid.................they are working for the prosecution

Edited December 16, 2014 by Willy Eckerslike

[AleG]

Surprise surprise, you dodged the question... and then run back into your fantasy world.

First off, the question wasn't addressed to me, it was addressed to someone else who you quoted from. Secondly, I could ask you 50 questions, and you wouldn't answer any of them. Thirdly, I did answer the question. The answer didn't fit with your frantic determination to shield the Headman's people, so you dismissed it. Who is surprised by your response?

Here's the pattern we've been seeing for weeks from people who are echoing the RTP and shielding the Headman's people:

A poster might post several items surmised from the reports we hear from RTP and other sources. The Headman protectors

don't respond to any of the items, because they don't have strong counter-arguments. So instead, they pick one item and go off on a tangent. One poster can't stop writing the phrase; 'conspiracy theorists.' Another poster can't stop asking for increasing proofs of evidence, as if we're all in a court of law. Even when that poster gets answers, he keeps asking the same question ad nauseum. When that doesn't work, he tries picking on semantics.

What we don't get from them, are any useful additions to the discussion. It's understandable why they're continually on the defensive, as they don't have a proverbial leg to stand on, from the perspective of what we've been hearing from RTP and other sources. They hate social media, even though we're all participating in social media. They hate any perceived scenarios (other than the ridiculous scenario the RTP fed us in the reenactment), because all viable scenarios of the crime include the Headman's people. They, like the RTP, don't want any mention of the scenario in the bar prior to the crime, for the same reasons. They also don't want any investigation in to phone histories. If it quacks, walks, and shits like a duck, it must be a duck, except for people who don't want to even hear the word 'duck' mentioned.

"First off, the question wasn't addressed to me,"

You know you just show yourself to be incapable of understanding things with posts like this, here it goes again and I'm going to explain things slowly to you:

Shrill again, AleG? We all admit we weren't at the scene. We're assessing all the evidence and claims which have come forth (some of which are contrived by authorities), and we're putting forth plausible scenarios. You're welcome to do the same, if you choose. We're not in a court of law.

Is this The Truth, yes or no?

"The truth is David was walking near his accommodation and heard Hanna in distress, because he was a conscientious gentleman he went to her aid and was brutally murdered."

I fully expect you to dodge the question.

You see that I replied after you, quoting your post were you are addressing me by name, are you following?

I posed a question to you, at the end I'm talking to you, you see the words "I fully expect you..."? Yes, that "you" is indeed you, the person whose post I'm replying to. Still following?

Therefore the question was addressed to you.

Either you can't grasp such simple things as the structure of a conversation, or you are being deliberately obtuse because you need an excuse, any excuse, to dodge facing questions that would challenge your beliefs.

Neither scenario paints you in a particular good light.

Having said that, and since you insist in talking about the person rather than the arguments....

Your problem is that you cannot think outside the conspiracy box, that's why you repeatedly accuse me of shielding the Koh Tao headman and his son, among other things; you need to constantly reinforce your worldview by deceiving yourself to feel secure in the face of not having a clue what is going on.

At the heart of every conspiracists there is an insecure egotist, desperately looking for meaning but lacking the means to understand the world as is, with all its unknowns and randomness, and therefore constructing a narrative of knowing the real truth behind everything and ascribing hostile agency to anything that challenges that narrative.

The bottom line is that you don't care about facts, you don't care about truth or justice, you care about feeling good about yourself by posturing as a hero standing up to nefarious forces.

Edited December 16, 2014 by AleG

[thailandchilli]

Am I missing some reports but didn't that lowlife Mon and his local police sidekick captured threatening Sean refuse to give any DNA. Thats certainly what I remember about the early events and reported in numerous online media sites and never seen other reports contradicting that?

McAnna, a busker well known on Koh Tao as Guitarman, took a photo of the Thais and uploaded it to the Internet, after which he began receiving death threats. He has now apparently fled into hiding in fear for his life.Police revealed that the two Thais had been interviewed but were released after refusing to provide DNA samples.

http://time.com/3420299/thailand-koh-tao-murder-hannah-witheridge-david-miller/

I'm expecting the usual reply of they were early suspects and cleared.

Nothing to see here.

Agreed but if the sock puppets want to pull that one again then provide the links containing that specific info, without that then as far as I'm concerned he's still not been tested

[Expat Girl]

Am I missing some reports but didn't that lowlife Mon and his local police sidekick captured threatening Sean refuse to give any DNA. Thats certainly what I remember about the early events and reported in numerous online media sites and never seen other reports contradicting that?

McAnna, a busker well known on Koh Tao as Guitarman, took a photo of the Thais and uploaded it to the Internet, after which he began receiving death threats. He has now apparently fled into hiding in fear for his life.Police revealed that the two Thais had been interviewed but were released after refusing to provide DNA samples.

http://time.com/3420299/thailand-koh-tao-murder-hannah-witheridge-david-miller/

I'm expecting the usual reply of they were early suspects and cleared.

Nothing to see here.

I agree, how the hell could he quote from such as publication as Time. You know what, lets counter comment from another tabloid of similar low standing, there must be some an abundant amount of info available. I have faith in you, looking back at your posts they excel in quality and lets beat these 'conspiracy theorists' with our hard well sourced facts.. 100% behind you, please don't let me down, i have every confidence in you.

Edited December 16, 2014 by Expat Girl

[boomerangutang]

"First off, the question wasn't addressed to me,"

You know you just show yourself to be incapable of understanding things with posts like this, here it goes again and I'm going to explain things slowly to you:

When you posted your question, you included a quote. Your question referred to the wording of that quote. That quote wasn't from me.

Again you're wrong, and frankly I don't care. I've moved on. The case has moved on. Your needle-stuck-on-the-LP thinking is boring, bordering on OCD. Don't worry though, the Headman's people who you're so frantic on shielding aren't ever going to be put behind bars. The RTP, hand in hand with the Headman and his riches, have made double sure of that. Rest easy, bud.

[boomerangutang]

The RTP have said the Burmese raped because they became aroused when they witnessed the British couple been intimate on the beach.

Insulting lies, Hanna and David were never an item, indeed all the evidence shown by the RTP ie cctv and released photo in the AC bar show quite the opposite. At no time were David and Hanna shown to be together.

The truth is David was walking near his accommodation and heard Hanna in distress, because he was a conscientious gentleman he went to her aid and was brutally murdered.

"The truth is David was walking near his accommodation and heard Hanna in distress, because he was a conscientious gentleman he went to her aid and was brutally murdered."

Your speculation is not "the truth", unless you were there and saw that you are simply making things up. If you were there and saw that, have already contacted the Burmese lawyers to give your testimony?

Here's the question (above) which AleG keeps harping on about . He claims it's addressed to me, Boomerangutang, but look at AleG's post and it's plain it's addressed to Boris. It's Boris' quote. AleG can be wrong 20 times, and it still doesn't change that he's wrong.

[aimbc]

....

Your problem is that you cannot think outside the conspiracy box, that's why you repeatedly accuse me of shielding the Koh Tao headman and his son, among other things; you need to constantly reinforce your worldview by deceiving yourself to feel secure in the face of not having a clue what is going on.

At the heart of every conspiracists there is an insecure egotist, desperately looking for meaning but lacking the means to understand the world as is, with all its unknowns and randomness, and therefore constructing a narrative of knowing the real truth behind everything and ascribing hostile agency to anything that challenges that narrative.

The bottom line is that you don't care about facts, you don't care about truth or justice, you care about feeling good about yourself by posturing as a hero standing up to nefarious forces.

I hate when someone uses the word "conspiracy" when not even you AleG have not seen the evidence. You are taking the statement of the police as being 100% correct. If it's not 100%, then that leaves room for questionable doubts and not conspiracy. And that is all you have really. I am sorry, but some of us are just not as gullible as the RTP hope people will be by making their statement. And honestly, you are going to tell me you know the truth and that everyone's view are all conspiracy view. But kind of strange, that is all you are seen quoting as your rebuttal that claims that the police has the right person. Nothing logical about your statement, just more blind faith.

If you still insist on using the word conspiracy, then the police may be guilty of conspiracy to make the public to believe in their statement is beyond a reasonable doubt. Because, you sorry to say, are the victim of it. And truly you are going to tell me that you believe them without examining the report yourself, especially given their history and lack of credibility or integrity by some in the force? It's fair to say that with the recent shake up in the police force, we may see a turn of event.

If you do still believe them, then I have a great ocean side home in Las Vegas to sell you.

[JLCrab]

Please send to me PM details of your oceanside home for sale in Las Vegas. As I have been so informed on these pages, I am easily duped.

[IslandLover]

BoristheBlade, on 16 Dec 2014 - 03:14, said:

The RTP have said the Burmese raped because they became aroused when they witnessed the British couple been intimate on the beach.

Insulting lies, Hanna and David were never an item, indeed all the evidence shown by the RTP ie cctv and released photo in the AC bar show quite the opposite. At no time were David and Hanna shown to be together.

The truth is David was walking near his accommodation and heard Hanna in distress, because he was a conscientious gentleman he went to her aid and was brutally murdered.

What I don't understand is why were there no bloodstains on David's t-shirt and shorts? There is nothing apparent in the photos of these items. It's very odd IMHO.

[AleG]

The RTP have said the Burmese raped because they became aroused when they witnessed the British couple been intimate on the beach.

Insulting lies, Hanna and David were never an item, indeed all the evidence shown by the RTP ie cctv and released photo in the AC bar show quite the opposite. At no time were David and Hanna shown to be together.

The truth is David was walking near his accommodation and heard Hanna in distress, because he was a conscientious gentleman he went to her aid and was brutally murdered.

"The truth is David was walking near his accommodation and heard Hanna in distress, because he was a conscientious gentleman he went to her aid and was brutally murdered."

Your speculation is not "the truth", unless you were there and saw that you are simply making things up. If you were there and saw that, have already contacted the Burmese lawyers to give your testimony?

Here's the question (above) which AleG keeps harping on about . He claims it's addressed to me, Boomerangutang, but look at AleG's post and it's plain it's addressed to Boris. It's Boris' quote. AleG can be wrong 20 times, and it still doesn't change that he's wrong.

Yes, I asked that question to BoristheBlade, and then on post #563 I asked you the same question, you clearly replied to that on post #566 so to then pretend that it wasn't addressed to you is completely disingenuous.

I was sure you would dodge the question, I didn't know you would become so unhinged about it.

[IslandLover]

englishoak, on 16 Dec 2014 - 03:59, said:

ummm you dont need a DNA test to determine sex thats on the form sticker on the samples sent in but anyway. Heres the kicker that'll fry your noodle even mentioning male or female bs etc.

They already knew the victim was assaulted by a male or males due to seamen found as the DNA match sample hence why the tested of interest were far as I know all male.

The important part of the quote from deputy police chief General Somyot Pumpunmuang is the following.

"We will ask the FBI to help identify the DNA in the semen we found - whether it belonged to an Asian or European," he said yesterday.

By this statement General Somyot implied that the Thai laboratories did not have the capability to establish the ethnicity of the DNA and that help from another entity would be sought. First the FBI was suggested, then Singapore.

[AleG]

....

Your problem is that you cannot think outside the conspiracy box, that's why you repeatedly accuse me of shielding the Koh Tao headman and his son, among other things; you need to constantly reinforce your worldview by deceiving yourself to feel secure in the face of not having a clue what is going on.

At the heart of every conspiracists there is an insecure egotist, desperately looking for meaning but lacking the means to understand the world as is, with all its unknowns and randomness, and therefore constructing a narrative of knowing the real truth behind everything and ascribing hostile agency to anything that challenges that narrative.

The bottom line is that you don't care about facts, you don't care about truth or justice, you care about feeling good about yourself by posturing as a hero standing up to nefarious forces.

I hate when someone uses the word "conspiracy" when not even you AleG have not seen the evidence. You are taking the statement of the police as being 100% correct. If it's not 100%, then that leaves room for questionable doubts and not conspiracy. And that is all you have really. I am sorry, but some of us are just not as gullible as the RTP hope people will be by making their statement. And honestly, you are going to tell me you know the truth and that everyone's view are all conspiracy view. But kind of strange, that is all you are seen quoting as your rebuttal that claims that the police has the right person. Nothing logical about your statement, just more blind faith.

If you still insist on using the word conspiracy, then the police may be guilty of conspiracy to make the public to believe in their statement is beyond a reasonable doubt. Because, you sorry to say, are the victim of it. And truly you are going to tell me that you believe them without examining the report yourself, especially given their history and lack of credibility or integrity by some in the force? It's fair to say that with the recent shake up in the police force, we may see a turn of event.

If you do still believe them, then I have a great ocean side home in Las Vegas to sell you.

If you hate the word conspiracy what word would you use to describe a vast, concerted effort involving a large number of people at all levels of government and society to perpetrate a crime (namely, murder, a cover-up and setting up scapegoats for that crime)?

Because that is what some people speculate is going on, it's the very definition of a conspiracy theory.

I don't know The Truth, guess what, I'm not the one making things up and calling it The Truth, or making statements of fact that are unsupported by evidence, so why don't you direct your lecture to those who do?

[boomerangutang]

If you hate the word conspiracy what word would you use to describe a vast, concerted effort involving a large number of people at all levels of government and society to perpetrate a crime (namely, murder, a cover-up and setting up scapegoats for that crime)?

Because that is what some people speculate is going on, it's the very definition of a conspiracy theory.

I don't know The Truth, guess what, I'm not the one making things up and calling it The Truth, or making statements of fact that are unsupported by evidence, so why don't you direct your lecture to those who do?

The majority posting here are seeking the unadulterated truth (or as much as can be garnered) about the crime - in order to nail those who are guilty of perpetrating it. We put forth ideas formulated from clues announced by the police and by others, some of whom are professionals in fields related to crime investigation. It's not a conspiracy to have an opinion, or to have several people concur on what might have happened at a crime. We're not in a court of law bound by formal strictures of protocol. We're on a public forum, discussing a heinous crime and the myriad things which relate to it.

[AleG]

If you hate the word conspiracy what word would you use to describe a vast, concerted effort involving a large number of people at all levels of government and society to perpetrate a crime (namely, murder, a cover-up and setting up scapegoats for that crime)?

Because that is what some people speculate is going on, it's the very definition of a conspiracy theory.

I don't know The Truth, guess what, I'm not the one making things up and calling it The Truth, or making statements of fact that are unsupported by evidence, so why don't you direct your lecture to those who do?

The majority posting here are seeking the unadulterated truth (or as much as can be garnered) about the crime - in order to nail those who are guilty of perpetrating it. We put forth ideas formulated from clues announced by the police and by others, some of whom are professionals in fields related to crime investigation. It's not a conspiracy to have an opinion, or to have several people concur on what might have happened at a crime. We're not in a court of law bound by formal strictures of protocol. We're on a public forum, discussing a heinous crime and the myriad things which relate to it.

No, it's not a conspiracy to have an opinion, did I say that?

This, on the other hand, is a claim that there is a vast conspiracy at work:

Because the combined force of Army (nearly all top politicians are military), Police and the all the Headman's friends and family, and possibly also the judiciary, is marching in lockstep to convict the scapegoats.

Don't try to pretend you "put forth ideas formulated from clues announced by the police" when you make up stuff like this (or the previous quoted text):

David and Hannah were walking along the beach. Some of AC bar punks were with them (one or more of the following: Nomsod, Mon, the Stingray man, the cop who threatened Sean). David was probably not walking directly alongside Hannah. (Note: men bent on rape will want to separate their target from anyone who may want to defend her). I think one of the culprits, probably the Stingray man, diverted David's attention and tried to gently steer him away from Hannah. Meanwhile the gaggle of horny drunk men globbed around Hannah. They initially tried to get her to comply (it's probable she was plied with date-rape drug earlier). When she didn't comply, they used force. David heard her cries, started to go to her aid, and was attacked (possibly from behind) and punctured in the neck several times with a sharp shallow blade.

[boomerangutang]

If you hate the word conspiracy what word would you use to describe a vast, concerted effort involving a large number of people at all levels of government and society to perpetrate a crime (namely, murder, a cover-up and setting up scapegoats for that crime)? Because that is what some people speculate is going on, it's the very definition of a conspiracy theory.

It's already been made clear how tampering with evidence wouldn't require "a vast, concerted effort involving a large number of people at all levels of government and society..." It would only need a very few top brass. Every cop ranked below is required to follow orders. They are not encouraged to cast doubt on their superiors, unless they want to be out of a job, or worse. If just one or two top brass tampered with the DNA type-cards labeled 'DNA taken from Female Victim' - then that completely changes the investigation. It implicates the Burmese (DNA matches), and it excludes the Headman's people (DNA doesn't match). I'll be the 1st to admit I'm wrong if, for example, Brit experts announce independent findings which concur with the DNA trail produced by Thai authorities.

Thus far, the Brits have been mum. At the inquest, will they speak clearly, or will they mince words, something like, "it appears the DNA may be such 'n such, but we weren't able to get clear readings." ....for the sake not rocking diplomatic Ships of State.

[boomerangutang]

to AleG; my opinions are my opinions. If others agree, so be it. If what I post bothers you, well, ....so it goes. Prove me wrong, if you can. Up to you, dude.

Edited December 17, 2014 by boomerangutang

[IslandLover]

There seems to be some movement by the defence team. They have asked the court in Koh Samui to summon "foreign" witnesses to testify for the defence. It's not clear whether this means witnesses only from the Burmese community either still on Koh Tao or not, or also from the U.K. Apparently a large number of Myanmar nationals have fled Koh Tao since the murders. This is according to an article in the BP yesterday which I'm not allowed to link to. Hopefully other press agencies will pick this up.

Edited December 17, 2014 by IslandLover

[boomerangutang]

There seems to be some movement by the defence team. They have asked the court in Koh Samui to summon "foreign" witnesses to testify for the defence. It's not clear whether this means witnesses only from the Burmese community either still on Koh Tao or not, or also from the U.K. Apparently a large number of Myanmar nationals have fled Koh Tao since the murders. This is according to an article in the BP yesterday which I'm not allowed to link to. Hopefully other press agencies will pick this up.

I see it as a good, if somewhat unusual (to announce publicly) move. I also see it primarily as an attempt to get some of the young farang who may have witnessed things - to speak up on record. It won't be easy. The tendency, for a backpacker who has returned to his/her home country after a vacation, is to go on to other things, and try an put bad experiences behind them, ...particularly if speaking out, could bring harm upon them by people hell-bent on shielding rich and powerful Thais on the island who may be implicated. Also, Sean could well be the #1 'foreign witness' who the defense team wants a testament from.

There were likely Thais who heard/witnessed implicating things that night, but we already know they're too spooked to speak out, and we know why that is.

[jdinasia]

"First off, the question wasn't addressed to me,"

You know you just show yourself to be incapable of understanding things with posts like this, here it goes again and I'm going to explain things slowly to you:

When you posted your question, you included a quote. Your question referred to the wording of that quote. That quote wasn't from me.

Again you're wrong, and frankly I don't care. I've moved on. The case has moved on. Your needle-stuck-on-the-LP thinking is boring, bordering on OCD. Don't worry though, the Headman's people who you're so frantic on shielding aren't ever going to be put behind bars. The RTP, hand in hand with the Headman and his riches, have made double sure of that. Rest easy, bud.

The case HAS moved on, and yes your fixation on people who are not suspects is bordering on OCD

[JLCrab]

From post #628 above: I also see it primarily as an attempt to get some of the young farang who may have witnessed things - to speak up on record. Conversely, the reason some have not spoken up on the record is they may have not witnessed things.