I think I will be overstaying

[bifferted]

I have a two entry two month visa leaving 16 th December just like an idiot noticed visa runs out on 15th December and to complicate things took a trip to Vietnam had to return to Thailand earlier than expected and that visa they give you on plane runs out on 14 th!

What will happen at airport on 16 th and what is my best course of action ,please advise

[Mario2008]

You can get an extension of 30 days for 1,900 baht at immigration.

Alternatively you can overstay at 500 baht a day, but alwys best to stay legal.

[otocheater]

You can stay over long as you can and max.fine is just 20,000 baht. Even you over stay for a year. And you can come back anytimes.

Good luck.

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[steve187]

what is the date of your permission to stay stamp, given to you by Thai immigration at the airport.

Not the date of the visa given outside Thailand

[TSF]

Very unwise IMO to factor overstay into one's travel itinerary. Go to immigration and pay the 1900Bt for an extension.

Remember if you get stopped by BIB and they check your passport and you have an expired visa/entry stamp then it's off to jail, and it'll cost a lot more than 1900Bt to get outta there and onto your flight.

[ubonjoe]

You can stay over long as you can and max.fine is just 20,000 baht. Even you over stay for a year. And you can come back anytimes.

Good luck.

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That is unacceptable advise.

You left out the possibility of getting caught with an overstay and ending up in the IDC.

There is also the chance of the rules immigration wants being approved that would result in being banned from the country for an overstay longer than 90 days.

[Suradit69]

I have a two entry two month visa leaving 16 th December just like an idiot noticed visa runs out on 15th December and to complicate things took a trip to Vietnam had to return to Thailand earlier than expected and that visa they give you on plane runs out on 14 th!

What will happen at airport on 16 th and what is my best course of action ,please advise

If you already made the second entry, then the visa is finished anyway, so its expiration date is irrelevant.

They don't give visas on planes. Do you mean at the airport when you entered Thailand for the second time? If that's what you mean ... if the hand stamp you received at the airport shows your stay must end on the 14th and you're leaving on the 16th, the safest thing to do, as others have suggested, is to apply for a 30 day extension of stay at immigrations ... and with the weekend approaching, best to do it Friday. You might get away with a two day fine at the airport, but if the rumors of increased spot checks of foreigners are to be believed, you might risk a lot of hassle.

[otocheater]

You can stay over long as you can and max.fine is just 20,000 baht. Even you over stay for a year. And you can come back anytimes.

Good luck.

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That is unacceptable advise.

You left out the possibility of getting caught with an overstay and ending up in the IDC.

There is also the chance of the rules immigration wants being approved that would result in being banned from the country for an overstay longer than 90 days.

I known the person who overstaying for 4 months come back from UK after 2 weeks.

Its true.

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[KonaRain]

Flip a coin, then listen to Ubon Joe..

Alohz

[NanLaew]

You can stay over long as you can and max.fine is just 20,000 baht. Even you over stay for a year. And you can come back anytimes.

Good luck.

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That is unacceptable advise.

You left out the possibility of getting caught with an overstay and ending up in the IDC.

There is also the chance of the rules immigration wants being approved that would result in being banned from the country for an overstay longer than 90 days.

I known the person who overstaying for 4 months come back from UK after 2 weeks.

Its true.

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Stop trying to be clever. Who cares if you know someone who is flaunting the immigration rules.

Even if you do know this idiot, it is absolutely not a reason to glibly suggest that the OP join that dubious bunch of shirkers.

[otocheater]

You can stay over long as you can and max.fine is just 20,000 baht. Even you over stay for a year. And you can come back anytimes.

Good luck.

?

That is unacceptable advise.

You left out the possibility of getting caught with an overstay and ending up in the IDC.

There is also the chance of the rules immigration wants being approved that would result in being banned from the country for an overstay longer than 90 days.

I known the person who overstaying for 4 months come back from UK after 2 weeks.

Its true.

?

Stop trying to be clever. Who cares if you know someone who is flaunting the immigration rules.

Even if you do know this idiot, it is absolutely not a reason to glibly suggest that the OP join that dubious bunch of shirkers.

Excused me!!! The topic said "I think I will overstaying" not "I dont want to overstay"...???

Why did he scare? I give him a positive suggestions if he wants to overstay. And lots of farang overstaying in Thailand too.

As soon as you overstay without crime you will be safe anyway.

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[HooHaa]

You can stay over long as you can and max.fine is just 20,000 baht. Even you over stay for a year. And you can come back anytimes.

Good luck.

?

That is unacceptable advise.

You left out the possibility of getting caught with an overstay and ending up in the IDC.

There is also the chance of the rules immigration wants being approved that would result in being banned from the country for an overstay longer than 90 days.

I known the person who overstaying for 4 months come back from UK after 2 weeks.

Its true.

?

Stop trying to be clever. Who cares if you know someone who is flaunting the immigration rules.

Even if you do know this idiot, it is absolutely not a reason to glibly suggest that the OP join that dubious bunch of shirkers.

cant imagine why anyone would flaunt a rule, flouting however is an entirely different story.

[Kasset Tak]

Ok, I don't promote people overstating or otherwise breaking the law BUT...

The OP is talking about a 2 day overstay, not a week, month or year. Hell I know people staying here over a year, 2 friends even passed a decade on overstay.

And from my own experience, last time I wanted to make an extension (same thing, my visit was 2 days longer than my visa) the immigration officer just told me to pay the 1000 Baht overstay at the airport as it was cheaper than the 1900 Baht for an extension!

Hell I even showed up at immigration 1 with 44 days of overstay (I forgot to think about my visa during the last flood, so I admit that it's about 3 years ago. The water was standing at 5cm water on the second floor so about 3 meter over ground level) and the immigration office just told me to make a border run ASAP!

But as most of you say to do the right thing and play it safe in these days (New crackdowns everyday) is to get that extension.

Edited December 12, 2014 by Kasset Tak

[Nuddy]

It seems quite easy in most cases to stay legal in terms of visa's and extensions of stay especially when expert advice is given here

Why one would opt for the risk of not getting an appropriate extension eludes me.

Maybe its a troll type posting

Regards

[TSF]

The situation is constantly changing. What someone got away with 2-3 years ago, or even 6 months ago, is irrelevant today. With all the crack-downs and stiffer penalties happening over the past couple months it's more important than ever to stick strictly to the law/regulations.

Edited December 12, 2014 by TSF

[NanLaew]

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As soon as you overstay without crime you will be safe anyway.

There's a whole lotta people currently in IDC that will tell you otherwise.

cant imagine why anyone would flaunt a rule, flouting however is an entirely different story.

Oops! I was hanging out till 2AM this morning in District 1 in Saigon. Must have been still on my mind when I posted.

[csabo]

To be clear:

What is the "Enter Before" date on the face of the Double Entry Tourist Visa?

What date did you initially enter Thailand on that visa (1st entry)?

What date did you leave Thailand and return from Vietnam (2nd entry)?

When you entered from Vietnam and the IO stamped your passport, what was the "Admitted until" date? This is the only date that is really important at this point.

[Kasset Tak]

The situation is constantly changing. What someone got away with 2-3 years ago, or even 6 months ago, is irrelevant today. With all the crack-downs and stiffer penalties happening over the past couple months it's more important than ever to stick strictly to the law/regulations.

I agree with you, I just stated my own experiences and thoughts. The one about the immigration officer telling me to just pay my 2 days overstay at the airport happened two month ago at Phitsanulok immigration. On the other hand I was checked and questioned about where and why I'm in Thailand at 3 checkpoints when I went to Mae Sod, Tak last month.

But it's not always easy to live by the law in Thailand. Last week (4th) I went to immigration 1 (Changwathana, Bangkok) to change my visa from tourist to Non-B. After long time waiting I was told that I could not do the change that day because some documents from my employer needed to be changed/new. So I asked if I could extend my visa/extension of stay to be sure while waiting for new documents, The answer... "No! You have work you need non-B visa!" which she just refuse to grant me because of faulty documents.

Today I went to immigration in Phisanoluke and got my extension, I told the immigration officer what happened in Bangkok and he just shook his head and said some "well chosen words" and granted me 1 month extension based on the fact that I'm waiting for new documents so I can apply for a non-b visa... Next time i will go to Laos instead!

[TSF]

The situation is constantly changing. What someone got away with 2-3 years ago, or even 6 months ago, is irrelevant today. With all the crack-downs and stiffer penalties happening over the past couple months it's more important than ever to stick strictly to the law/regulations.

I agree with you, I just stated my own experiences and thoughts. The one about the immigration officer telling me to just pay my 2 days overstay at the airport happened two month ago at Phitsanulok immigration. On the other hand I was checked and questioned about where and why I'm in Thailand at 3 checkpoints when I went to Mae Sod, Tak last month.

But it's not always easy to live by the law in Thailand. Last week (4th) I went to immigration 1 (Changwathana, Bangkok) to change my visa from tourist to Non-B. After long time waiting I was told that I could not do the change that day because some documents from my employer needed to be changed/new. So I asked if I could extend my visa/extension of stay to be sure while waiting for new documents, The answer... "No! You have work you need non-B visa!" which she just refuse to grant me because of faulty documents.

Today I went to immigration in Phisanoluke and got my extension, I told the immigration officer what happened in Bangkok and he just shook his head and said some "well chosen words" and granted me 1 month extension based on the fact that I'm waiting for new documents so I can apply for a non-b visa... Next time i will go to Laos instead!

Right, it certainly is getting tighter & tougher to be here, and work here, these days. I'm on annual retirement extensions and have a visa/migration agent take care of everything for me. I gather from reading this forum that visa agents are not highly regarded but I'm completely satisfied with the fast easy service he provides and it only costs me a couple thousand baht more than if I did it all myself.

[stevenl]

The situation is constantly changing. What someone got away with 2-3 years ago, or even 6 months ago, is irrelevant today. With all the crack-downs and stiffer penalties happening over the past couple months it's more important than ever to stick strictly to the law/regulations.

I agree with you, I just stated my own experiences and thoughts. The one about the immigration officer telling me to just pay my 2 days overstay at the airport happened two month ago at Phitsanulok immigration. On the other hand I was checked and questioned about where and why I'm in Thailand at 3 checkpoints when I went to Mae Sod, Tak last month.

But it's not always easy to live by the law in Thailand. Last week (4th) I went to immigration 1 (Changwathana, Bangkok) to change my visa from tourist to Non-B. After long time waiting I was told that I could not do the change that day because some documents from my employer needed to be changed/new. So I asked if I could extend my visa/extension of stay to be sure while waiting for new documents, The answer... "No! You have work you need non-B visa!" which she just refuse to grant me because of faulty documents.

Today I went to immigration in Phisanoluke and got my extension, I told the immigration officer what happened in Bangkok and he just shook his head and said some "well chosen words" and granted me 1 month extension based on the fact that I'm waiting for new documents so I can apply for a non-b visa... Next time i will go to Laos instead!

So you expected immigration to extend your tourist visa even though you're working here and immigration knew about you working here.

[chickenrunCM]

Very unwise IMO to factor overstay into one's travel itinerary. Go to immigration and pay the 1900Bt for an extension.

Remember if you get stopped by BIB and they check your passport and you have an expired visa/entry stamp then it's off to jail, and it'll cost a lot more than 1900Bt to get outta there and onto your flight.

what a BS you are writing, a 2 days overstay nobody cares about this, why spent a day in IMO and pay 1900 baht if you pay max at airport 1000 Baht

what jail? you never get to jail if you have a valid ticket out of Thailand and if you not did anything wrong like comitted a crime or big accident even with some month of overstay.

STOP Writing such terrible post if you dont knw anyrthing about the law and rules in Thailand, there are hundrets of overstay daily only at the airport in Bkk. nobody cares it is a offense not a crime

[ATF]

Very unwise IMO to factor overstay into one's travel itinerary. Go to immigration and pay the 1900Bt for an extension.

Remember if you get stopped by BIB and they check your passport and you have an expired visa/entry stamp then it's off to jail, and it'll cost a lot more than 1900Bt to get outta there and onto your flight.

what a BS you are writing, a 2 days overstay nobody cares about this, why spent a day in IMO and pay 1900 baht if you pay max at airport 1000 Baht

what jail? you never get to jail if you have a valid ticket out of Thailand and if you not did anything wrong like comitted a crime or big accident even with some month of overstay.

STOP Writing such terrible post if you dont knw anyrthing about the law and rules in Thailand, there are hundrets of overstay daily only at the airport in Bkk. nobody cares it is a offense not a crime

It is a crime. You only go to jail for criminal offenses not civil offenses and if you are caught you will go to jail. However a 2 day overstay is not a problem at the airport or border but you will go to jail if you are caught before getting there.

[Digitalnomade]

they won't send you to jail if you go to airport and you have a valid flight ticket.

don't believe all the rumours on this forum. if they start to send people to jail, jail would be so full that they will need to send prisoners to hotels.

I saw a guy last time, he was 2 days late, he said he did a mistake when booking due to dates mismatching, he paid his 1000 baths fine and was on the plane 1 hour later.

Edited December 13, 2014 by Digitalnomade

[TSF]

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Very unwise IMO to factor overstay into one's travel itinerary. Go to immigration and pay the 1900Bt for an extension.

Remember if you get stopped by BIB and they check your passport and you have an expired visa/entry stamp then it's off to jail, and it'll cost a lot more than 1900Bt to get outta there and onto your flight.

what a BS you are writing, a 2 days overstay nobody cares about this, why spent a day in IMO and pay 1900 baht if you pay max at airport 1000 Baht

what jail? you never get to jail if you have a valid ticket out of Thailand and if you not did anything wrong like comitted a crime or big accident even with some month of overstay.

STOP Writing such terrible post if you dont knw anyrthing about the law and rules in Thailand, there are hundrets of overstay daily only at the airport in Bkk. nobody cares it is a offense not a crime

they won't send you to jail if you go to airport and you have a valid flight ticket.

don't believe all the rumours on this forum. if they start to send people to jail, jail would be so full that they will need to send prisoners to hotels.

I saw a guy last time, he was 2 days late, he said he did a mistake when booking due to dates mismatching, he paid his 1000 baths fine and was on the plane 1 hour later.

Yes a couple days over-stay is apparently not such a big deal with immigration when you are departing at an airport, pay a fine and be on your way.

However, if you are unfortunate enough to be stopped by police after your visa/stamp has expired and before you front up at the immigration counter at an airport then you will be escorted to the police station and end up behind bars until you have cleared everything up.

Anyone who factors a deliberate overstay into their travel itinerary is dumb...dumb...dumb. So at the end of the day it's entirely up to you whether you want to play it safe, keep within the law and not run any risks...or be dumb.

[ATF]

they won't send you to jail if you go to airport and you have a valid flight ticket.

don't believe all the rumours on this forum. if they start to send people to jail, jail would be so full that they will need to send prisoners to hotels.

I saw a guy last time, he was 2 days late, he said he did a mistake when booking due to dates mismatching, he paid his 1000 baths fine and was on the plane 1 hour later.

You WILL go to IDC if you are caught before you make it to the Immigration Desk. Even if you are at the airport.

[steve187]

So the thread was started 2 days ago, lots of good replies, some not so good. i came on here to look to see what the OP had chosen to do, and guess what the only post he made was the first. why are people bothering to post here, its a troll post.

yes i know i have posted

[Gerard052]

You can stay over long as you can and max.fine is just 20,000 baht. Even you over stay for a year. And you can come back anytimes.

Good luck.

?

What a sick advice.

[otocheater]

You can stay over long as you can and max.fine is just 20,000 baht. Even you over stay for a year. And you can come back anytimes.

Good luck.

?

What a sick advice.

Just sick then...

Oh...what about your suggestions for some farang who will or want to overstaying in Thailand?

Hahaha??

Edited December 15, 2014 by otocheater

[Gerard052]

You can stay over long as you can and max.fine is just 20,000 baht. Even you over stay for a year. And you can come back anytimes.

Good luck.

?

What a sick advice.

Just sick then...

Oh...what about your suggestions for some farang who will or want to overstaying in Thailand?

Hahaha??

Excuse me. Where did you see me anywhere on this post, suggesting any farang who wants to stay, it is ok, but it seems to be ok with you. There are absolutely no reasons for overstaying, unless somebody gets involve in an accident or something and has to go to the hospital. Right now farangs are taking advantage of the maximum 20,000 Bahts fine, they are breaking the law. In my opinion, anybody overstaying should be paying a heavy fine, spend some time in the IDC and be deported and refused entrance back to Thailand for a minimum of 1 year depending on the length of the overstay, that would prevent farangs to keep doing it. Don't you agree? I always read Ubonjoe's advices as he is the expert on that matter and everything that has to do with Visas.

[paz]

So the thread was started 2 days ago, lots of good replies, some not so good. i came on here to look to see what the OP had chosen to do, and guess what the only post he made was the first. why are people bothering to post here, its a troll post.

Sometime people joins just to ask a question and then don't care answering. Bad manner yes, but hey!