30K Mushroom bottles

[teletiger]

Somebody on the other mushroom thread was wondering about how to average 50 kilos per day with mushrooms. Here's a chart showing 30 thousand bottles. 15 K black oyster and 15K white oyster.They all went in over a period of 42 days.

On day 58 we swapped out 1500 dead bottles for new ones.
So far on the 86th day we've taken 135K Baht for 3223 kilos.

We get 45 Baht for the black oysters and 35 Baht for the whites. Average for both so far is 42 Baht, and over the period we've averaged 39 kilos per day.
So for the original question I'd say 40K bottles would get you 50 kilos per day.

I'll post other info and photos later.

Regards

[tingtong]

sorry, but my feelings that you get ripped off with those prices,

45thb is so-so, 35 thb for the white is robbery!

we grow both, though in a much smaller scale.

and sure we buy the bottles, cost last time 6.5thb/bottle, both type same price.

in our experience, making on it 50% ROI is a good time, and achievable...BUT we sell our little produce retail, either in the local market or door-to-door....for average 75thb/kg!

at 45 a kg, we would not be breakeven, at 35 a kg....we could need to buy the bottles for 3.5thb each, or it would probably still produce a loss.

really curious how much each bottle cost for you?

also we found that after 3 months the production is greatly reduced...thus in ideal situation the breakeven happens within 30 days, maybe +30% by 60 days, and if all good around another 20-40% in the following 3 months. On non-ideal runs maybe we could only make 20% ROI in 5 months. Not every period equal in luck, quality of bottles, or weather.

it seems a brave move you did to jump for 30k bottles, hope it is making your expected return.

[Baa_Mango]

this is much too expensive. Even in BKK i think the rate is around 500 baht for 5 grams. STRONG shit too. tracers, visuals, energy spike etc.

[teletiger]

We paid 5 baht each for the bottles. (negotiated down from 6 Baht due to the size of the order)

Black oysters are definitely more popular in the markets here than whites. We find whites quite hard to sell locally and have to send them in to CM to a wholesaler. All the blacks are sold locally to resellers.

White oysters are much more prolific, will grow even in the cold here and actually weigh about 20% more than the black ones on a comparable basis.

Nobody is robbing us, these prices are what we sell them for.

We have another separate 10K operation (black oysters) where everything is sold very locally at 50 Baht. Going around our local Talat nats the resellers are typically charging between 70 and 100 Baht per kilo, in 200/250 gm bags.
We should start going into profit at the end of next week. How long the bottles last after that is anyones guess.

Regards.

[tingtong]

the robbery was with some irony, of course, don't take it straight

I still believe that 35thb wholesale price is low...that is what you get; but not necessarily the fair price.

yes, the white oyster, or nang rong, is better money maker, grows more...incidentally we sell the exact same price too, as the black (nang fa). matter of fact, since the few locals in the aren't growing the white variety, even find it is advantage to sell something different. took locals a little while to adapt to the white too, some older ones had even questioned if it is edible...but that is the past, after 2 years they are well adopted, and buy whatever we have to sell, as it is always fresh and reasonable priced.

matter of fact, now that the production is getting less in the cycle, we most often mix the 2 in the bags, selling it.

congrats, the 5thb/bottle is great price.

of course, for a big order, there is more negotiating power.

however I would be very concerned if around 3 months into the cycle we wouldn't hit breakeven yet on the run. as I said, maybe your experience largely different from mine. ( the selling price most definitely is, but the numbers are numbers in the end). this cycle out breakeven time is/was 1 months, something i think of as ideal to reach the 50%+ ROI.

production life is about 5 months, give or take a bit, some might even produce for 6, but that is not the common case we find.

have you ever think to retail sell at least part of what you selling? given that the market price is nearly 2x what you getting even hiring a grandma to sit in the market and sell 10kg a day could result a decent gain for very little extra effort directly on your side.