Thaksin in the list of those hunted for lese majeste and other offences

[LazarusRising]

When this happens, that which divides Thailand will be gone, once and for all. It'd be the best thing that could possibly happen.

Clueless. What divides Thailand is modernisation and equality - the masses want both the elites neither. Thaksin or no Thaksin the old guards fight against progress, development and equality is pointless, the good guys are going to win and Thais will soon be free.

So the paymaster, his fake pm sister, his puppet BIL pm, nor any of their gangs, in power for more than 10 years, did said, announced absolutely nothing that would push for / gain modernization and equality, in fact they deliberately kept the poor and the farmers reliant on handouts.

So who is stopping modernization and equality?

Thaksin was in power for 5 years and changed this country for the better forever, after the 2006 coup no government has truly been in power as the military has been the major player either in the front or behind the scenes. Thaksin's popularity is based solely on the fact that he empowered the poor and finally began directing a fairer share of government expenditure their way, it is the elites / yellows that have for decades kept the people poor and uneducated - those days are already over the am mart minority (and you) are just yet to accept reality.

[DaffyDuck]

Thaksin was in power for 5 years and changed this country for the better forever

You really should attempt not to post while on drugs.

[LazarusRising]

Clueless. What divides Thailand is modernisation and equality - the masses want both the elites neither. Thaksin or no Thaksin the old guards fight against progress, development and equality is pointless, the good guys are going to win and Thais will soon be free.

Trolling bait or what !

Deny reality in which ever way you must Thailand will change forever very shortly, the militaristic old guard will be gone forever and democracy will triumph

[DaffyDuck]

....it ends for ever no later than 2016.

Wow, this is even more entertaining than I thought possible.

Let's compare notes in 2017, when PM Prayuth will have his 2-3 years needed to start making a difference, and when no one will even remember Thaksin.

[LazarusRising]

Thaksin was in power for 5 years and changed this country for the better forever

You really should attempt not to post while on drugs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaksin_Shinawatra

After a historic election victory in 2001, he became prime minister, the country's first to serve a full term. Thaksin introduced a range of policies to alleviate rural poverty; highly popular, they helped reduce poverty by half in four years. He launched the country's first universal healthcare program, the 30-baht scheme, as well as a highly notorious drug suppression campaign. Thaksin embarked on a massive program of infrastructure investment, including roads, public transit, and Suvarnabhumi Airport. Nevertheless, public sector debt fell from 57% of GDP in January 2001 to 41% in September 2006. Levels of corruption were perceived to have fallen, with Transparency International's Corruption Perceptions Index improving from 3.2 to 3.8 between 2001 and 2005. The Thai Rak Thai party won an unprecedented landslide in the 2005 general election, which had the highest voter turnout in Thai history.

Edited December 21, 2014 by LazarusRising

[maxme]

LM112 is the highest and most important law of the land. This is the land of the father. He provided love, peace and hope for all his children living under his protection. Anyone who do not love the father do not deserve to live here and should be jailed until they do.

There is no law in Thailand. The military coup illegally took control of the country and abolished the constitution. There are no legally elected officials in Thailand.

Took control from a legally elected government, sort of, who were acting illegally, lying and refusing to obey the law; whilst allowing attacks on and murder of any who opposed them. A government openly owned, controlled and dictated to by a convicted criminal fugitive with 15 more serious court cases waiting. A government that openly lied and thought nothing of trying to give amnesty to 25k+ just so they could whitewash their criminal leader's crimes and those of his family and friends.

There was certainly no laws under the Shins - only if and when it suited their agenda. And their "respect" for the constitution was legendary.

"Who were acting illegally and lying..." that could be said about most western goverments even the US. Pray tell, would you support a military coup against the current US administration or do you like to sound like a broken record?

[LazarusRising]

....it ends for ever no later than 2016.

Wow, this is even more entertaining than I thought possible.

Let's compare notes in 2017, when PM Prayuth will have his 2-3 years needed to start making a difference, and when no one will even remember Thaksin.

There has already been talk of a counter coup by those involved in the coup, the entire economy is tanking and all PM Prayuth can come up with is chartering flights for Indians wanting to get married in Thailand, the stock market is jittery, tolerance for martial law is beginning to wear thin amongst many Thais, PM Prayuth's media performance gets more embarrassing and off putting day by day, students are starting to dare openly protest against the Junta, the list of PM Prayuths woes goes on and on.

Daffy, one of us is extremely deluded.

[Fred Flinstone]

Thaksin was in power for 5 years and changed this country for the better forever

You really should attempt not to post while on drugs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaksin_Shinawatra

After a historic election victory in 2001, he became prime minister, the country's first to serve a full term. Thaksin introduced a range of policies to alleviate rural poverty; highly popular, they helped reduce poverty by half in four years. He launched the country's first universal healthcare program, the 30-baht scheme, as well as a highly notorious drug suppression campaign. Thaksin embarked on a massive program of infrastructure investment, including roads, public transit, and Suvarnabhumi Airport. Nevertheless, public sector debt fell from 57% of GDP in January 2001 to 41% in September 2006. Levels of corruption were perceived to have fallen, with Transparency International's Corruption Perceptions Index improving from 3.2 to 3.8 between 2001 and 2005. The Thai Rak Thai party won an unprecedented landslide in the 2005 general election, which had the highest voter turnout in Thai history.

Correct any detached analysis by financial institutions show the remarkable success under TS .

Fanatics here are irrelevant to history.

By comparison this unelected Government is not even worthy of comment-

Thailand continues to falter

[jayboy]

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I swear if Thaksin and all of his family died that this lot would start blaming their ghosts for Thailand's problems.

If they did die, their apologists and defenders would be out of work.

When this happens, that which divides Thailand will be gone, once and for all. It'd be the best thing that could possibly happen.

Clueless. What divides Thailand is modernisation and equality - the masses want both the elites neither. Thaksin or no Thaksin the old guards fight against progress, development and equality is pointless, the good guys are going to win and Thais will soon be free.

So the paymaster, his fake pm sister, his puppet BIL pm, nor any of their gangs, in power for more than 10 years, did said, announced absolutely nothing that would push for / gain modernization and equality, in fact they deliberately kept the poor and the farmers reliant on handouts.

So who is stopping modernization and equality?

Independent analysis proves that those who hold these views are not only deluded fanatics but simply wrong.For all his faults Thaksin did represent modernity and the Thai majority benefited from his policies.There are plenty of reasons to be suspicious and sceptical about Thaksin so there is really no need to peddle these incoherent lies.You will find that the more thoughtful Thai members of the opposition (Abhisit,Korn etc) do not descend into your semi educated rants.

[Neeranam]

Thaksin was in power for 5 years and changed this country for the better forever

You really should attempt not to post while on drugs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaksin_Shinawatra

After a historic election victory in 2001, he became prime minister, the country's first to serve a full term. Thaksin introduced a range of policies to alleviate rural poverty; highly popular, they helped reduce poverty by half in four years. He launched the country's first universal healthcare program, the 30-baht scheme, as well as a highly notorious drug suppression campaign. Thaksin embarked on a massive program of infrastructure investment, including roads, public transit, and Suvarnabhumi Airport. Nevertheless, public sector debt fell from 57% of GDP in January 20 01 to 41% in September 2006. Levels of corruption were perceived to have fallen, with Transparency International's Corruption Perceptions Index improving from 3.2 to 3.8 between 2001 and 2005. The Thai Rak Thai party won an unprecedented landslide in the 2005 general election, which had the highest voter turnout in Thai history.

Who put our visa fees up from 500 baht to 1900 baht?

Who put Permanent residency up to 190,000 baht from 9,000 baht?

Who hate foreigners, which is ironic being a "jek"(chinaman) Chinese/Thai himself?

Who gave the police the freedom to kill thousands of business competitors SUSPECTED drug dealers without the need for trial?

Who used his positions to make billions of DOLLARS, while cheating the Thai people?

The worst of what he did can't be talked about but is why he deserved to be taken back and thrown in jail for life.

Before he was PM, the list of crimes was equally as long - remember him and Chavalit and the Asian financial crisis - do you think he lost any money?

Edited December 21, 2014 by Neeranam

[LazarusRising]

Thaksin was in power for 5 years and changed this country for the better forever

You really should attempt not to post while on drugs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaksin_Shinawatra

After a historic election victory in 2001, he became prime minister, the country's first to serve a full term. Thaksin introduced a range of policies to alleviate rural poverty; highly popular, they helped reduce poverty by half in four years. He launched the country's first universal healthcare program, the 30-baht scheme, as well as a highly notorious drug suppression campaign. Thaksin embarked on a massive program of infrastructure investment, including roads, public transit, and Suvarnabhumi Airport. Nevertheless, public sector debt fell from 57% of GDP in January 20 01 to 41% in September 2006. Levels of corruption were perceived to have fallen, with Transparency International's Corruption Perceptions Index improving from 3.2 to 3.8 between 2001 and 2005. The Thai Rak Thai party won an unprecedented landslide in the 2005 general election, which had the highest voter turnout in Thai history.

Who put our visa fees up from 500 baht to 1900 baht?

Who put Permanent residency up to 190,000 baht from 9,000 baht?

Who hate foreigners, which is ironic being a "jek"(chinaman) Chinese/Thai himself?

Who gave the police the freedom to kill thousands of business competitors SUSPECTED drug dealers without the need for trial?

Who used his positions to make billions of DOLLARS, while cheating the Thai people?

The worst of what he did can't be talked about but is why he deserved to be taken back and thrown in jail for life.

Before he was PM, the list of crimes was equally as long - remember him and Chavalit and the Asian financial crisis - do you think he lost any money?

Questions 1 - 3: He was PM of Thailand not PM for Farangland. Question 4: this question is both interesting and unanswerable Question 5: He was already a billionaire before he became PM and his wealth only grew at the same rate as the SET during his time as PM - whatever level of corruption he is guilty of it is nothing out of the ordinary for a Thai PM and most likely on the lower side when compared to his predecessors. Question 6 and 7: Can't answer what you don't say, articulate your smears or keep them to yourself. Thaksin is the best PM Thailand has ever had, let democracy flourish and Thailand will have PM's better than him deny democracy and Thailand will continue to have worse PM's than him - thus growing his legend, its lose - lose for those opposed to Thaksin - give up and go home, you've been beaten.

[Robby nz]

If I remember correctly there is a list of countries which have asked Thailand to extradite their fugitives lately and have not been refused, the US and Russia two that come to mind.

This must have created good will among those countries so should Thailand make a similar request it would in all likelihood be looked on favorably.

There is also the new dialog and agreements being put together with Asian countries including the old hideout Cambodia which will change things somewhat for those who would run from the law.

Those on here who are so sure ex-pats will be treated badly in the not to distant future should leave now to avoid strife, that is assuming you are in the country and not just taking your spite out from afar.

[Fred Flinstone]

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If I remember correctly there is a list of countries which have asked Thailand to extradite their fugitives lately and have not been refused, the US and Russia two that come to mind.

This must have created good will among those countries so should Thailand make a similar request it would in all likelihood be looked on favorably.

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No hope from Western countries -

In fact because of Thailand being under the rule of Military , the reverse is true.

Edited December 21, 2014 by Fred Flinstone

[Robby nz]

Thaksin was in power for 5 years and changed this country for the better forever

You really should attempt not to post while on drugs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaksin_Shinawatra

After a historic election victory in 2001, he became prime minister, the country's first to serve a full term. Thaksin introduced a range of policies to alleviate rural poverty; highly popular, they helped reduce poverty by half in four years. He launched the country's first universal healthcare program, the 30-baht scheme, as well as a highly notorious drug suppression campaign. Thaksin embarked on a massive program of infrastructure investment, including roads, public transit, and Suvarnabhumi Airport. Nevertheless, public sector debt fell from 57% of GDP in January 2001 to 41% in September 2006. Levels of corruption were perceived to have fallen, with Transparency International's Corruption Perceptions Index improving from 3.2 to 3.8 between 2001 and 2005. The Thai Rak Thai party won an unprecedented landslide in the 2005 general election, which had the highest voter turnout in Thai history.

And look what happened to the corruption index after he had won the 2005 election :

True colors started to show.

I sometimes wonder who writes these things in wiki, it is a free for all and anyone can contribute.

There is so much left out of many of their entries that they are don't tell the whole truth.

[Neeranam]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaksin_Shinawatra

After a historic election victory in 2001, he became prime minister, the country's first to serve a full term. Thaksin introduced a range of policies to alleviate rural poverty; highly popular, they helped reduce poverty by half in four years. He launched the country's first universal healthcare program, the 30-baht scheme, as well as a highly notorious drug suppression campaign. Thaksin embarked on a massive program of infrastructure investment, including roads, public transit, and Suvarnabhumi Airport. Nevertheless, public sector debt fell from 57% of GDP in January 20 01 to 41% in September 2006. Levels of corruption were perceived to have fallen, with Transparency International's Corruption Perceptions Index improving from 3.2 to 3.8 between 2001 and 2005. The Thai Rak Thai party won an unprecedented landslide in the 2005 general election, which had the highest voter turnout in Thai history.

Who put our visa fees up from 500 baht to 1900 baht?

Who put Permanent residency up to 190,000 baht from 9,000 baht?

Who hate foreigners, which is ironic being a "jek"(chinaman) Chinese/Thai himself?

Who gave the police the freedom to kill thousands of business competitors SUSPECTED drug dealers without the need for trial?

Who used his positions to make billions of DOLLARS, while cheating the Thai people?

The worst of what he did can't be talked about but is why he deserved to be taken back and thrown in jail for life.

Before he was PM, the list of crimes was equally as long - remember him and Chavalit and the Asian financial crisis - do you think he lost any money?

Questions 1 - 3: He was PM of Thailand not PM for Farangland. Question 4: this question is both interesting and unanswerable Question 5: He was already a billionaire before he became PM and his wealth only grew at the same rate as the SET during his time as PM - whatever level of corruption he is guilty of it is nothing out of the ordinary for a Thai PM and most likely on the lower side when compared to his predecessors. Question 6 and 7: Can't answer what you don't say, articulate your smears or keep them to yourself. Thaksin is the best PM Thailand has ever had, let democracy flourish and Thailand will have PM's better than him deny democracy and Thailand will continue to have worse PM's than him - thus growing his legend, its lose - lose for those opposed to Thaksin - give up and go home, you've been beaten.

Q1-3 I was pointing out that he made it harder for us foreigners to live here and especially do business. He increased the money I needed for getting a marriage visa from 200,000 to 400,000 Baht, and made it harder for retirees.

Q4 - I'll answer it for you - Thasin Shinawatra. Can't you remember the war on drugs? Terrible human rights abuse, especially in Isarn near me.

Q5 - He made billions as deputy to "Big Jew", who was just as corrupt as TS. To compare TS to past PMs like Chaun Leekpai or Abisit is a RIDICULOUS ignorant rant.

Q7 - quite simple - there was a financial crisis in 1997 - do you think Thaksin lost any money like most the population?

You'll be saying he isn't a criminal next

[LazarusRising]

Thaksin was in power for 5 years and changed this country for the better forever

You really should attempt not to post while on drugs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaksin_Shinawatra

After a historic election victory in 2001, he became prime minister, the country's first to serve a full term. Thaksin introduced a range of policies to alleviate rural poverty; highly popular, they helped reduce poverty by half in four years. He launched the country's first universal healthcare program, the 30-baht scheme, as well as a highly notorious drug suppression campaign. Thaksin embarked on a massive program of infrastructure investment, including roads, public transit, and Suvarnabhumi Airport. Nevertheless, public sector debt fell from 57% of GDP in January 2001 to 41% in September 2006. Levels of corruption were perceived to have fallen, with Transparency International's Corruption Perceptions Index improving from 3.2 to 3.8 between 2001 and 2005. The Thai Rak Thai party won an unprecedented landslide in the 2005 general election, which had the highest voter turnout in Thai history.

And look what happened to the corruption index after he had won the 2005 election :

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True colors started to show.

I sometimes wonder who writes these things in wiki, it is a free for all and anyone can contribute.

There is so much left out of many of their entries that they are don't tell the whole truth.

Isn't it funny that things started going pear shaped in Thailand at exactly the same time (2005) that the am mart and the military started ramping up their efforts to overthrow Thaksin. Why did they need to get rid of him? Because he was too good and too popular and if he continued as PM he would be the end of their lives of greedy and gluttonous undeserved entitlement.

[LazarusRising]

If I remember correctly there is a list of countries which have asked Thailand to extradite their fugitives lately and have not been refused, the US and Russia two that come to mind.

This must have created good will among those countries so should Thailand make a similar request it would in all likelihood be looked on favorably.

There is also the new dialog and agreements being put together with Asian countries including the old hideout Cambodia which will change things somewhat for those who would run from the law.

Those on here who are so sure ex-pats will be treated badly in the not to distant future should leave now to avoid strife, that is assuming you are in the country and not just taking your spite out from afar.

No decent country will send any individual back to Thailand to face LM charges - ever.

[LazarusRising]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaksin_Shinawatra

After a historic election victory in 2001, he became prime minister, the country's first to serve a full term. Thaksin introduced a range of policies to alleviate rural poverty; highly popular, they helped reduce poverty by half in four years. He launched the country's first universal healthcare program, the 30-baht scheme, as well as a highly notorious drug suppression campaign. Thaksin embarked on a massive program of infrastructure investment, including roads, public transit, and Suvarnabhumi Airport. Nevertheless, public sector debt fell from 57% of GDP in January 20 01 to 41% in September 2006. Levels of corruption were perceived to have fallen, with Transparency International's Corruption Perceptions Index improving from 3.2 to 3.8 between 2001 and 2005. The Thai Rak Thai party won an unprecedented landslide in the 2005 general election, which had the highest voter turnout in Thai history.

Who put our visa fees up from 500 baht to 1900 baht?

Who put Permanent residency up to 190,000 baht from 9,000 baht?

Who hate foreigners, which is ironic being a "jek"(chinaman) Chinese/Thai himself?

Who gave the police the freedom to kill thousands of business competitors SUSPECTED drug dealers without the need for trial?

Who used his positions to make billions of DOLLARS, while cheating the Thai people?

The worst of what he did can't be talked about but is why he deserved to be taken back and thrown in jail for life.

Before he was PM, the list of crimes was equally as long - remember him and Chavalit and the Asian financial crisis - do you think he lost any money?

Questions 1 - 3: He was PM of Thailand not PM for Farangland. Question 4: this question is both interesting and unanswerable Question 5: He was already a billionaire before he became PM and his wealth only grew at the same rate as the SET during his time as PM - whatever level of corruption he is guilty of it is nothing out of the ordinary for a Thai PM and most likely on the lower side when compared to his predecessors. Question 6 and 7: Can't answer what you don't say, articulate your smears or keep them to yourself. Thaksin is the best PM Thailand has ever had, let democracy flourish and Thailand will have PM's better than him deny democracy and Thailand will continue to have worse PM's than him - thus growing his legend, its lose - lose for those opposed to Thaksin - give up and go home, you've been beaten.

Q1-3 I was pointing out that he made it harder for us foreigners to live here and especially do business. He increased the money I needed for getting a marriage visa from 200,000 to 400,000 Baht, and made it harder for retirees.

Q4 - I'll answer it for you - Thasin Shinawatra. Can't you remember the war on drugs? Terrible human rights abuse, especially in Isarn near me.

Q5 - He made billions as deputy to "Big Jew", who was just as corrupt as TS. To compare TS to past PMs like Chaun Leekpai or Abisit is a RIDICULOUS ignorant rant.

Q7 - quite simple - there was a financial crisis in 1997 - do you think Thaksin lost any money like most the population?

You'll be saying he isn't a criminal next

Q4: You need to do more research.

[Neeranam]

Q1-3 I was pointing out that he made it harder for us foreigners to live here and especially do business. He increased the money I needed for getting a marriage visa from 200,000 to 400,000 Baht, and made it harder for retirees.

Questions 1 - 3: He was PM of Thailand not PM for Farangland. Question 4: this question is both interesting and unanswerable Question 5: He was already a billionaire before he became PM and his wealth only grew at the same rate as the SET during his time as PM - whatever level of corruption he is guilty of it is nothing out of the ordinary for a Thai PM and most likely on the lower side when compared to his predecessors. Question 6 and 7: Can't answer what you don't say, articulate your smears or keep them to yourself. Thaksin is the best PM Thailand has ever had, let democracy flourish and Thailand will have PM's better than him deny democracy and Thailand will continue to have worse PM's than him - thus growing his legend, its lose - lose for those opposed to Thaksin - give up and go home, you've been beaten.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaksin_Shinawatra

After a historic election victory in 2001, he became prime minister, the country's first to serve a full term. Thaksin introduced a range of policies to alleviate rural poverty; highly popular, they helped reduce poverty by half in four years. He launched the country's first universal healthcare program, the 30-baht scheme, as well as a highly notorious drug suppression campaign. Thaksin embarked on a massive program of infrastructure investment, including roads, public transit, and Suvarnabhumi Airport. Nevertheless, public sector debt fell from 57% of GDP in January 20 01 to 41% in September 2006. Levels of corruption were perceived to have fallen, with Transparency International's Corruption Perceptions Index improving from 3.2 to 3.8 between 2001 and 2005. The Thai Rak Thai party won an unprecedented landslide in the 2005 general election, which had the highest voter turnout in Thai history.

Who put our visa fees up from 500 baht to 1900 baht?

Who put Permanent residency up to 190,000 baht from 9,000 baht?

Who hate foreigners, which is ironic being a "jek"(chinaman) Chinese/Thai himself?

Who gave the police the freedom to kill thousands of business competitors SUSPECTED drug dealers without the need for trial?

Who used his positions to make billions of DOLLARS, while cheating the Thai people?

The worst of what he did can't be talked about but is why he deserved to be taken back and thrown in jail for life.

Before he was PM, the list of crimes was equally as long - remember him and Chavalit and the Asian financial crisis - do you think he lost any money?

Q4 - I'll answer it for you - Thasin Shinawatra. Can't you remember the war on drugs? Terrible human rights abuse, especially in Isarn near me.

Q5 - He made billions as deputy to "Big Jew", who was just as corrupt as TS. To compare TS to past PMs like Chaun Leekpai or Abisit is a RIDICULOUS ignorant rant.

Q7 - quite simple - there was a financial crisis in 1997 - do you think Thaksin lost any money like most the population?

You'll be saying he isn't a criminal next

Q4: You need to do more research.

You need to go back in a time machine.

[LazarusRising]

Q1-3 I was pointing out that he made it harder for us foreigners to live here and especially do business. He increased the money I needed for getting a marriage visa from 200,000 to 400,000 Baht, and made it harder for retirees.

Questions 1 - 3: He was PM of Thailand not PM for Farangland. Question 4: this question is both interesting and unanswerable Question 5: He was already a billionaire before he became PM and his wealth only grew at the same rate as the SET during his time as PM - whatever level of corruption he is guilty of it is nothing out of the ordinary for a Thai PM and most likely on the lower side when compared to his predecessors. Question 6 and 7: Can't answer what you don't say, articulate your smears or keep them to yourself. Thaksin is the best PM Thailand has ever had, let democracy flourish and Thailand will have PM's better than him deny democracy and Thailand will continue to have worse PM's than him - thus growing his legend, its lose - lose for those opposed to Thaksin - give up and go home, you've been beaten.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaksin_Shinawatra

After a historic election victory in 2001, he became prime minister, the country's first to serve a full term. Thaksin introduced a range of policies to alleviate rural poverty; highly popular, they helped reduce poverty by half in four years. He launched the country's first universal healthcare program, the 30-baht scheme, as well as a highly notorious drug suppression campaign. Thaksin embarked on a massive program of infrastructure investment, including roads, public transit, and Suvarnabhumi Airport. Nevertheless, public sector debt fell from 57% of GDP in January 20 01 to 41% in September 2006. Levels of corruption were perceived to have fallen, with Transparency International's Corruption Perceptions Index improving from 3.2 to 3.8 between 2001 and 2005. The Thai Rak Thai party won an unprecedented landslide in the 2005 general election, which had the highest voter turnout in Thai history.

Who put our visa fees up from 500 baht to 1900 baht?

Who put Permanent residency up to 190,000 baht from 9,000 baht?

Who hate foreigners, which is ironic being a "jek"(chinaman) Chinese/Thai himself?

Who gave the police the freedom to kill thousands of business competitors SUSPECTED drug dealers without the need for trial?

Who used his positions to make billions of DOLLARS, while cheating the Thai people?

The worst of what he did can't be talked about but is why he deserved to be taken back and thrown in jail for life.

Before he was PM, the list of crimes was equally as long - remember him and Chavalit and the Asian financial crisis - do you think he lost any money?

Q4 - I'll answer it for you - Thasin Shinawatra. Can't you remember the war on drugs? Terrible human rights abuse, especially in Isarn near me.

Q5 - He made billions as deputy to "Big Jew", who was just as corrupt as TS. To compare TS to past PMs like Chaun Leekpai or Abisit is a RIDICULOUS ignorant rant.

Q7 - quite simple - there was a financial crisis in 1997 - do you think Thaksin lost any money like most the population?

You'll be saying he isn't a criminal next

Q4: You need to do more research.

You need to go back in a time machine.

.....praised Thaksin and criticized those who counted only dead drug dealers while ignoring deaths caused by drugs.

[pantareiyingluck]

You could consider a military coup being an action of Lese Majeste itself. And a rape of the Constitution.

[Neeranam]

.....praised Thaksin and criticized those who counted only dead drug dealers while ignoring deaths caused by drugs.

You need to go back in a time machine.

Q1-3 I was pointing out that he made it harder for us foreigners to live here and especially do business. He increased the money I needed for getting a marriage visa from 200,000 to 400,000 Baht, and made it harder for retirees.

Questions 1 - 3: He was PM of Thailand not PM for Farangland. Question 4: this question is both interesting and unanswerable Question 5: He was already a billionaire before he became PM and his wealth only grew at the same rate as the SET during his time as PM - whatever level of corruption he is guilty of it is nothing out of the ordinary for a Thai PM and most likely on the lower side when compared to his predecessors. Question 6 and 7: Can't answer what you don't say, articulate your smears or keep them to yourself. Thaksin is the best PM Thailand has ever had, let democracy flourish and Thailand will have PM's better than him deny democracy and Thailand will continue to have worse PM's than him - thus growing his legend, its lose - lose for those opposed to Thaksin - give up and go home, you've been beaten.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaksin_Shinawatra

After a historic election victory in 2001, he became prime minister, the country's first to serve a full term. Thaksin introduced a range of policies to alleviate rural poverty; highly popular, they helped reduce poverty by half in four years. He launched the country's first universal healthcare program, the 30-baht scheme, as well as a highly notorious drug suppression campaign. Thaksin embarked on a massive program of infrastructure investment, including roads, public transit, and Suvarnabhumi Airport. Nevertheless, public sector debt fell from 57% of GDP in January 20 01 to 41% in September 2006. Levels of corruption were perceived to have fallen, with Transparency International's Corruption Perceptions Index improving from 3.2 to 3.8 between 2001 and 2005. The Thai Rak Thai party won an unprecedented landslide in the 2005 general election, which had the highest voter turnout in Thai history.

Who put our visa fees up from 500 baht to 1900 baht?

Who put Permanent residency up to 190,000 baht from 9,000 baht?

Who hate foreigners, which is ironic being a "jek"(chinaman) Chinese/Thai himself?

Who gave the police the freedom to kill thousands of business competitors SUSPECTED drug dealers without the need for trial?

Who used his positions to make billions of DOLLARS, while cheating the Thai people?

The worst of what he did can't be talked about but is why he deserved to be taken back and thrown in jail for life.

Before he was PM, the list of crimes was equally as long - remember him and Chavalit and the Asian financial crisis - do you think he lost any money?

Q4 - I'll answer it for you - Thasin Shinawatra. Can't you remember the war on drugs? Terrible human rights abuse, especially in Isarn near me.

Q5 - He made billions as deputy to "Big Jew", who was just as corrupt as TS. To compare TS to past PMs like Chaun Leekpai or Abisit is a RIDICULOUS ignorant rant.

Q7 - quite simple - there was a financial crisis in 1997 - do you think Thaksin lost any money like most the population?

You'll be saying he isn't a criminal next

Q4: You need to do more research.

Wikipedia? - don't believe all you read. Do you actually live in Thailand? How many months?

[LazarusRising]

.....praised Thaksin and criticized those who counted only dead drug dealers while ignoring deaths caused by drugs.

You need to go back in a time machine.

Q1-3 I was pointing out that he made it harder for us foreigners to live here and especially do business. He increased the money I needed for getting a marriage visa from 200,000 to 400,000 Baht, and made it harder for retirees.

Questions 1 - 3: He was PM of Thailand not PM for Farangland. Question 4: this question is both interesting and unanswerable Question 5: He was already a billionaire before he became PM and his wealth only grew at the same rate as the SET during his time as PM - whatever level of corruption he is guilty of it is nothing out of the ordinary for a Thai PM and most likely on the lower side when compared to his predecessors. Question 6 and 7: Can't answer what you don't say, articulate your smears or keep them to yourself. Thaksin is the best PM Thailand has ever had, let democracy flourish and Thailand will have PM's better than him deny democracy and Thailand will continue to have worse PM's than him - thus growing his legend, its lose - lose for those opposed to Thaksin - give up and go home, you've been beaten.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaksin_Shinawatra

After a historic election victory in 2001, he became prime minister, the country's first to serve a full term. Thaksin introduced a range of policies to alleviate rural poverty; highly popular, they helped reduce poverty by half in four years. He launched the country's first universal healthcare program, the 30-baht scheme, as well as a highly notorious drug suppression campaign. Thaksin embarked on a massive program of infrastructure investment, including roads, public transit, and Suvarnabhumi Airport. Nevertheless, public sector debt fell from 57% of GDP in January 20 01 to 41% in September 2006. Levels of corruption were perceived to have fallen, with Transparency International's Corruption Perceptions Index improving from 3.2 to 3.8 between 2001 and 2005. The Thai Rak Thai party won an unprecedented landslide in the 2005 general election, which had the highest voter turnout in Thai history.

Who put our visa fees up from 500 baht to 1900 baht?

Who put Permanent residency up to 190,000 baht from 9,000 baht?

Who hate foreigners, which is ironic being a "jek"(chinaman) Chinese/Thai himself?

Who gave the police the freedom to kill thousands of business competitors SUSPECTED drug dealers without the need for trial?

Who used his positions to make billions of DOLLARS, while cheating the Thai people?

The worst of what he did can't be talked about but is why he deserved to be taken back and thrown in jail for life.

Before he was PM, the list of crimes was equally as long - remember him and Chavalit and the Asian financial crisis - do you think he lost any money?

Q4 - I'll answer it for you - Thasin Shinawatra. Can't you remember the war on drugs? Terrible human rights abuse, especially in Isarn near me.

Q5 - He made billions as deputy to "Big Jew", who was just as corrupt as TS. To compare TS to past PMs like Chaun Leekpai or Abisit is a RIDICULOUS ignorant rant.

Q7 - quite simple - there was a financial crisis in 1997 - do you think Thaksin lost any money like most the population?

You'll be saying he isn't a criminal next

Q4: You need to do more research.

Wikipedia? - don't believe all you read. Do you actually live in Thailand? How many months?

Multiple sources, you should follow your own advice, yes, about 84 months now.

Edited December 21, 2014 by LazarusRising

[Fred Flinstone]

You could consider a military coup being an action of Lese Majeste itself. And a rape of the Constitution.

OK , i see your point-

Regards the undeniable growth under Thaksin

No wonder they are rewriting history books.

But the truth is the man improved Thailand immensely -

Growth of up to 7%

Whats going on now now is their business .

Its pointless to expect a western nation to sign on to their Hunt for him.

Especially given some countries like Australia don't even permit the Junta themselves on their soil.

America , and UK , western Europe , none seem remotely interested

[rubl]

You could consider a military coup being an action of Lese Majeste itself. And a rape of the Constitution.

OK , i see your point-

Regards the undeniable growth under Thaksin

No wonder they are rewriting history books.

But the truth is the man improved Thailand immensely -

Growth of up to 7%

Whats going on now now is their business .

Its pointless to expect a western nation to sign on to their Hunt for him.

Especially given some countries like Australia don't even permit the Junta themselves on their soil.

America , and UK , western Europe , none seem remotely interested

After the 1997 Thai disease, a few years of Chuan government led austerity, we had Thaksin blessed with a world wide boom and the good measures of his predecessor.

Anyway, good at least Australia shows the world, a world which doesn't really seem interested though.

[Fred Flinstone]

You could consider a military coup being an action of Lese Majeste itself. And a rape of the Constitution.

OK , i see your point-

Regards the undeniable growth under Thaksin

No wonder they are rewriting history books.

But the truth is the man improved Thailand immensely -

Growth of up to 7%

Whats going on now now is their business .

Its pointless to expect a western nation to sign on to their Hunt for him.

Especially given some countries like Australia don't even permit the Junta themselves on their soil.

America , and UK , western Europe , none seem remotely interested

After the 1997 Thai disease, a few years of Chuan government led austerity, we had Thaksin blessed with a world wide boom and the good measures of his predecessor.

Anyway, good at least Australia shows the world, a world which doesn't really seem interested though.

On the contrary - seems they do

You say the world doesn't seem interested in the Australian Tough stance?

So can you answer what Western country your beloved general thinks was going through with extradition of LM cases and anti - Government protests (movements) he claims they won't permit? *(when in fact they all do)

As his recent overseas trip showed

France , Italy , Germany , New Zealand , UK < United States?

In at least two other threads he claims western countries assurances ?

Even here its laughable that he thinks Thaksin is going to give a hoot about what is just same old non sense.

The reality is Western countries are interested in not caving into this Military demands /requests.

If so name one?

Edited December 21, 2014 by Fred Flinstone

[lildragon]

Thaksin is a snake and a crook, a new breed of one if you will. However he has changed the face of Thailand forever. He duped the poor into voting for him yes I agree but now the poor have a huge say in elections. The poor need to find a new hero though as Thaksin is just as bad as the other elites he is at war against. I hope things like the rice scam open up their eyes and they turn away from him.

One thing is undeniable though. They don't want to be disrespected and looked down upon by the Bangkok elite any longer. Thaksins detractors can call him all the things under the sun, and it is no doubt true, but let's not pretend his fellow elites aren't up to their necks in shady business deals, killings and robbing the poor. The backbone of this country that support their billions.

I don't know where we go from here. But oppresive military rule is not the answer. There will be civil unrest again before 2016 if no elections have been set by then.<deleted>

[Robby nz]

You really should attempt not to post while on drugs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaksin_Shinawatra

After a historic election victory in 2001, he became prime minister, the country's first to serve a full term. Thaksin introduced a range of policies to alleviate rural poverty; highly popular, they helped reduce poverty by half in four years. He launched the country's first universal healthcare program, the 30-baht scheme, as well as a highly notorious drug suppression campaign. Thaksin embarked on a massive program of infrastructure investment, including roads, public transit, and Suvarnabhumi Airport. Nevertheless, public sector debt fell from 57% of GDP in January 2001 to 41% in September 2006. Levels of corruption were perceived to have fallen, with Transparency International's Corruption Perceptions Index improving from 3.2 to 3.8 between 2001 and 2005. The Thai Rak Thai party won an unprecedented landslide in the 2005 general election, which had the highest voter turnout in Thai history.

And look what happened to the corruption index after he had won the 2005 election :

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True colors started to show.

I sometimes wonder who writes these things in wiki, it is a free for all and anyone can contribute.

There is so much left out of many of their entries that they are don't tell the whole truth.

Isn't it funny that things started going pear shaped in Thailand at exactly the same time (2005) that the am mart and the military started ramping up their efforts to overthrow Thaksin. Why did they need to get rid of him? Because he was too good and too popular and if he continued as PM he would be the end of their lives of greedy and gluttonous undeserved entitlement.

That post is straight out lies, the reason things went bad is because of Thaksins bad management and greed, mostly greed.

Remember.

"An honest mistake".

A loan from the Thai Govt to Burma to buy services from his company.

A law change to enable him to sell his company to Singapore, without having to pay tax on the deal.

[rubl]

You could consider a military coup being an action of Lese Majeste itself. And a rape of the Constitution.

OK , i see your point-

Regards the undeniable growth under Thaksin

No wonder they are rewriting history books.

But the truth is the man improved Thailand immensely -

Growth of up to 7%

Whats going on now now is their business .

Its pointless to expect a western nation to sign on to their Hunt for him.

Especially given some countries like Australia don't even permit the Junta themselves on their soil.

America , and UK , western Europe , none seem remotely interested

After the 1997 Thai disease, a few years of Chuan government led austerity, we had Thaksin blessed with a world wide boom and the good measures of his predecessor.

Anyway, good at least Australia shows the world, a world which doesn't really seem interested though.

On the contrary - seems they do

You say the world doesn't seem interested in the Australian Tough stance?

So can you answer what Western country your beloved general thinks was going through with extradition of LM cases and anti - Government protests (movements) he claims they won't permit? *(when in fact they all do)

As his recent overseas trip showed

France , Italy , Germany , New Zealand , UK < United States?

In at least two other threads he claims western countries assurances ?

Even here its laughable that he thinks Thaksin is going to give a hoot about what is just same old non sense.

The reality is Western countries are interested in not caving into this Military demands /requests.

If so name one?

You twist things a wee bit, my dear Freddy.

The 'tough' stance of Australia doesn't seem to have been followed by other countries. That doesn't mean other countries will immediately handover those within their borders who are accused in Thailand of LM. Mind you as I wrote before the label LM seems to cover many different cases. Some of those cases may be criminal in other countries as well. In that case, and assuming the Thai government can provide sufficient information and can show the death penalty isn't a possible sentence in those cases, countries could be induced to hand over the accused. Won't happen soon though, even in 'clear' cases some have spent sufficient time in countries with long procedures to even pass the statute of limitation.

As for the remarks on cooperating in 'muzzling' opponents, again that depends. Western countries (and Australia) actively monitor social media and anything you write can and will be used against you if a government feels it's necessary.

BTW interesting site https://amiunique.org

[rubl]

Thaksin is a snake and a crook, a new breed of one if you will. However he has changed the face of Thailand forever. He duped the poor into voting for him yes I agree but now the poor have a huge say in elections. The poor need to find a new hero though as Thaksin is just as bad as the other elites he is at war against. I hope things like the rice scam open up their eyes and they turn away from him.

One thing is undeniable though. They don't want to be disrespected and looked down upon by the Bangkok elite any longer. Thaksins detractors can call him all the things under the sun, and it is no doubt true, but let's not pretend his fellow elites aren't up to their necks in shady business deals, killings and robbing the poor. The backbone of this country that support their billions.

I don't know where we go from here. But oppresive military rule is not the answer. There will be civil unrest again before 2016 if no elections have been set by then. <deleted>

"They don't want to be disrespected and looked down upon by the Bangkok elite any longer. "

They also do not want to be disrespected and looked down on by their own local elite any longer. Have a PM promising they'll be rich and they're still poor.