Paiboon to head government panel on lese majeste issue

[Suffinator]

The committee will divide its tasks into three working groups - including one dealing with the extraditing of violators of the lese majeste law from abroad. I doubt they'll get any western countries to assist and the following statement only enforces this apart from being able to convince other countries that that defaming the monarchy affected the Thai spirit that revered the institution... Paiboon said he understood many foreign states did not recognise lese majeste acts as a crime and would not extradite the accused; but the Thai government would try to convince them that defaming the monarchy affected the Thai spirit that revered the institution.

The Justice Minister acknowledged that lese majeste charges had been used by some Thais as a tool to seek asylum abroad. The committee would also set up a working group to convince the international community that the law and charges against alleged offenders had nothing to do with politics. Yes and that's because of Human Rights Laws, especially the UN Charter on Human Rights which Thailand is a signatory to; attempting to make this a non-political will likely fail.

The third working group would ensure that those using social media to defame the monarchy were dealt with. This, said Paiboon, was the responsibility of the ICT Ministry. The committee would also review all lese majeste cases and the so-called anti-monarchist mind map, he added. Almost certain that the likes of Facebook and Twitter won't play along so the only solution is to block the sites in Thailand; which is not effective as there are many ways to get around that issue.

[kriswillems]

There are several European countries that have Lese Majeste Laws, but these laws are mostly considered as being outdated and you've to do something really extreme to go to jail or get fined. There's just no way any Western countries would send Thai political refugees back home based on the Lese Majeste laws. On the contrary it would a perfect reason to give those refugees permanent political asylum.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A8se-majest%C3%A9#Current_lese-majesty_laws_in_Europe

Edited December 26, 2014 by kriswillems

[FangFerang]

The lese majesty issue is a valid one here here in Thailand. Anyone who insults the Royal Family is patently stupid.

The rub is ....how is the law abused?

[Briggsy]

Most of the people Gen. Paiboon are referring to are wealthy politicians or academics. These people are legally in other countries with all the right visas. I don't know of any cases of Thais actually claiming political asylum in other countries with respect to lese majeste accusations.

As I said earlier, this is all for a domestic audience. For those in support of the army, it sits well. For those against the coup, it says, "Keep quiet or you will be charged and jailed."

Edited December 26, 2014 by Briggsy

[smutcakes]

Makes you wonder what these boys are up to behind the scenes to suddenly feel the need to come out and start making sure everyone knows how much they support the King............

[Moonlover]

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Paiboon said he understood many foreign states did not recognise lese majeste acts as a crime and would not extradite the accused; but the Thai government would try to convince them that defaming the monarchy affected the Thai spirit that revered the institution.

Many countries do not recognize LM as a crime and won't extradite the accused. Rightfully so. When a "law" is used as a blanket charge to rid one of business, political and personal competitors and thousands are charged for speaking their minds, one would hope that other countries would not have any part of it.

For many of the lese majeste cases you have other laws in foreign states that covers it. From these cases I know you would be in jail in most countries....

No there isn't. No you wouldn't.

How about you list some of these countries? If there are many, a short list of 5 shouldn't be too difficult. Let's see it.

Saudi Arabia. UAE. Brunei. Bahrain. And although not a monarchy, don't try criticizing the leadership in Egypt.

[Bluespunk]

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Paiboon said he understood many foreign states did not recognise lese majeste acts as a crime and would not extradite the accused; but the Thai government would try to convince them that defaming the monarchy affected the Thai spirit that revered the institution.

Many countries do not recognize LM as a crime and won't extradite the accused. Rightfully so. When a "law" is used as a blanket charge to rid one of business, political and personal competitors and thousands are charged for speaking their minds, one would hope that other countries would not have any part of it.

For many of the lese majeste cases you have other laws in foreign states that covers it. From these cases I know you would be in jail in most countries....

No there isn't. No you wouldn't.

How about you list some of these countries? If there are many, a short list of 5 shouldn't be too difficult. Let's see it.

Saudi Arabia. UAE. Brunei. Bahrain. And although not a monarchy, don't try criticizing the leadership in Egypt.

Or Turkey.

[thailiketoo]

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Paiboon said he understood many foreign states did not recognise lese majeste acts as a crime and would not extradite the accused; but the Thai government would try to convince them that defaming the monarchy affected the Thai spirit that revered the institution.

Many countries do not recognize LM as a crime and won't extradite the accused. Rightfully so. When a "law" is used as a blanket charge to rid one of business, political and personal competitors and thousands are charged for speaking their minds, one would hope that other countries would not have any part of it.

For many of the lese majeste cases you have other laws in foreign states that covers it. From these cases I know you would be in jail in most countries....

No there isn't. No you wouldn't.

How about you list some of these countries? If there are many, a short list of 5 shouldn't be too difficult. Let's see it.

Saudi Arabia. UAE. Brunei. Bahrain. And although not a monarchy, don't try criticizing the leadership in Egypt.

You missed the Netherlands. Want a funny story try google.

[26vinny]

no point saying anything on here you will done 4 it then banned anyway.then the RTP world police will be looking for you