Government told to carry on populist policies

[nong38]

A Thai Napoleon??

How tall is he?

[nong38]

Populist policies, these are policies that are popular with the people.

Is being popular important in a democracy ? Well, yes. I think it's good that the junta is carrying out policies that the people of Thailand find popular. It means the junta will probably win whatever future general election. Surely, it's a good thing when whoever is in charge is popular with the people ? Surely, we don't want a group in charge, if they are not the most popular group ?

Populist policies by a man in a suit or a man in an army uniform. In all honesty, does it really make a big difference ?

Speaking as man who has been on the fish and chip special from Tunbridge Wells West, I think that free fish and chips would be very popular with the people, another measure that would be a big hit would be to bring the price of alcohol down, now that would really hit the button.

[candide]

Please just throw the towel in before you drive the economy into the ground.

Have an election ASAP I wouldn't care if the yellows won democratically but anyone's better than this lot.

Everyday in every department it's policy on the run and that haven't got the expertise to run a chook raffle let alone a country!

Please just throw the towel in before you drive the economy into the ground.

How so? The SET couldn't be stronger under the Junta? Look at the graph here. Look at Thailand inflation rate here. That is going in the right direction as well. Look at the GDP growth rate here. Thats looking pretty good as well heay. Consumer confidence has gone through the roof here. Couple that with consumer spending here that is looking very health. Business confidence is plodding along nicely here. In fact if you look at all the economic indicators they all started going down hill when the PTP tried to introduce the amnesty bill (against the majorities wishes) and unsurprising started to recover when the Junta took power (which indicators have shown the majority supported). I suspect the information you have that indicates the Junta are not doing well comes from "All my Thai friends say the economy is doing badly" Can you show me the economic indicators that show the Junta is driving the economy into the ground? Because the only ones I see that show the economy getting driven into the ground is when Bangkok witnessed daily terrorist attacks.

Have an election ASAP I wouldn't care if the yellows won democratically but anyone's better than this lot.

Wow your complaining how you do not like the Junta but are falling all over yourself for them to rush another election. Do you remember what happened after the election was rushed last time? The Junta stepped in after the violence and terrorist attacks. So your saying that won't happen again right? Why not? What has changed since then that will allow for a peaceful election. Nothing and that is why reform is needed.

Of course the economic climate is better than when the PDRC was blocking Bangkok and the government! The mere fact that Suthep's mobs went back home is sufficient to explain these improvements.

As concerns your comment "all my Thai friends say the economy is doing badly", let's just quote a recent paper (Dec. 6th) from "The Economist":

"This year it is likely to grow by only about 1%, far less than in 2013 (see chart). Consumer spending has recovered somewhat since the coup. But investment, tourism, exports and industrial output are all down."

http://www.economist.com/news/asia/21635605-new-political-order-takes-shape-thailands-elites-vie-position-next

As concerns the 3% GDP growth cited in the OP, it looks like coming out of a magic hat!

[tbthailand]

so the military said they had to kick out the previous government due to uneconomic populism policies and now populism is the main policy of the military government.

No. Maybe you should actually read the OP.

actually, the current 'government' has been quite able to execute their own and plagiarised populist policies...

now, the claim was to prevent bloodshed, not to stop populist policies. That part would have been the PDRC.

Just because some (apparently) ex-senator suggests that populist policies are ok, does not make populism the main policy of the current government.

main policy? well I would not call it the 'main' policy, that would be political repression.

But it does seem to be a cornerstone of their activities to maintain the economy and the perception that they are here to help the people.

[rubl]

Please just throw the towel in before you drive the economy into the ground.

Have an election ASAP I wouldn't care if the yellows won democratically but anyone's better than this lot.

Everyday in every department it's policy on the run and that haven't got the expertise to run a chook raffle let alone a country!

Please just throw the towel in before you drive the economy into the ground.

How so? The SET couldn't be stronger under the Junta? Look at the graph here. Look at Thailand inflation rate here. That is going in the right direction as well. Look at the GDP growth rate here. Thats looking pretty good as well heay. Consumer confidence has gone through the roof here. Couple that with consumer spending here that is looking very health. Business confidence is plodding along nicely here. In fact if you look at all the economic indicators they all started going down hill when the PTP tried to introduce the amnesty bill (against the majorities wishes) and unsurprising started to recover when the Junta took power (which indicators have shown the majority supported). I suspect the information you have that indicates the Junta are not doing well comes from "All my Thai friends say the economy is doing badly" Can you show me the economic indicators that show the Junta is driving the economy into the ground? Because the only ones I see that show the economy getting driven into the ground is when Bangkok witnessed daily terrorist attacks.

Have an election ASAP I wouldn't care if the yellows won democratically but anyone's better than this lot.

Wow your complaining how you do not like the Junta but are falling all over yourself for them to rush another election. Do you remember what happened after the election was rushed last time? The Junta stepped in after the violence and terrorist attacks. So your saying that won't happen again right? Why not? What has changed since then that will allow for a peaceful election. Nothing and that is why reform is needed.

Of course the economic climate is better than when the PDRC was blocking Bangkok and the government! The mere fact that Suthep's mobs went back home is sufficient to explain these improvements.

As concerns your comment "all my Thai friends say the economy is doing badly", let's just quote a recent paper (Dec. 6th) from "The Economist":

"This year it is likely to grow by only about 1%, far less than in 2013 (see chart). Consumer spending has recovered somewhat since the coup. But investment, tourism, exports and industrial output are all down."

http://www.economist.com/news/asia/21635605-new-political-order-takes-shape-thailands-elites-vie-position-next

As concerns the 3% GDP growth cited in the OP, it looks like coming out of a magic hat!

The OP doesn't tell to what the 3% GDP growth compares. Is it compared to the previous quarter, is it the same quarter last year ?

[Anthony5]

Please just throw the towel in before you drive the economy into the ground.

Have an election ASAP I wouldn't care if the yellows won democratically but anyone's better than this lot.

Everyday in every department it's policy on the run and that haven't got the expertise to run a chook raffle let alone a country!

Please just throw the towel in before you drive the economy into the ground.

How so? The SET couldn't be stronger under the Junta? Look at the graph here. Look at Thailand inflation rate here. That is going in the right direction as well. Look at the GDP growth rate here. Thats looking pretty good as well heay. Consumer confidence has gone through the roof here. Couple that with consumer spending here that is looking very health. Business confidence is plodding along nicely here. In fact if you look at all the economic indicators they all started going down hill when the PTP tried to introduce the amnesty bill (against the majorities wishes) and unsurprising started to recover when the Junta took power (which indicators have shown the majority supported). I suspect the information you have that indicates the Junta are not doing well comes from "All my Thai friends say the economy is doing badly" Can you show me the economic indicators that show the Junta is driving the economy into the ground? Because the only ones I see that show the economy getting driven into the ground is when Bangkok witnessed daily terrorist attacks.

Have an election ASAP I wouldn't care if the yellows won democratically but anyone's better than this lot.

Wow your complaining how you do not like the Junta but are falling all over yourself for them to rush another election. Do you remember what happened after the election was rushed last time? The Junta stepped in after the violence and terrorist attacks. So your saying that won't happen again right? Why not? What has changed since then that will allow for a peaceful election. Nothing and that is why reform is needed.

Of course the economic climate is better than when the PDRC was blocking Bangkok and the government! The mere fact that Suthep's mobs went back home is sufficient to explain these improvements.

As concerns your comment "all my Thai friends say the economy is doing badly", let's just quote a recent paper (Dec. 6th) from "The Economist":

"This year it is likely to grow by only about 1%, far less than in 2013 (see chart). Consumer spending has recovered somewhat since the coup. But investment, tourism, exports and industrial output are all down."

http://www.economist.com/news/asia/21635605-new-political-order-takes-shape-thailands-elites-vie-position-next

As concerns the 3% GDP growth cited in the OP, it looks like coming out of a magic hat!

The OP doesn't tell to what the 3% GDP growth compares. Is it compared to the previous quarter, is it the same quarter last year ?

It also doesn't mention GDP growth.

I read it as being Sahapat's growth rate this year.

[Thai at Heart]

Populist policies, these are policies that are popular with the people.

Is being popular important in a democracy ? Well, yes. I think it's good that the junta is carrying out policies that the people of Thailand find popular. It means the junta will probably win whatever future general election. Surely, it's a good thing when whoever is in charge is popular with the people ? Surely, we don't want a group in charge, if they are not the most popular group ?

Populist policies by a man in a suit or a man in an army uniform. In all honesty, does it really make a big difference ?

In all honestt I despise this word populist. It is as bad as the word liberal. It uses a broad brush to paint anything social as inherently bad.

What would honestly be the benefit in leaving hundreds of thousands of people penniless in the countryside? Is this some type of social test to see how destitute you have to make people before society breaks down?

[candide]

Please just throw the towel in before you drive the economy into the ground.

Have an election ASAP I wouldn't care if the yellows won democratically but anyone's better than this lot.

Everyday in every department it's policy on the run and that haven't got the expertise to run a chook raffle let alone a country!

Please just throw the towel in before you drive the economy into the ground.

How so? The SET couldn't be stronger under the Junta? Look at the graph here. Look at Thailand inflation rate here. That is going in the right direction as well. Look at the GDP growth rate here. Thats looking pretty good as well heay. Consumer confidence has gone through the roof here. Couple that with consumer spending here that is looking very health. Business confidence is plodding along nicely here. In fact if you look at all the economic indicators they all started going down hill when the PTP tried to introduce the amnesty bill (against the majorities wishes) and unsurprising started to recover when the Junta took power (which indicators have shown the majority supported). I suspect the information you have that indicates the Junta are not doing well comes from "All my Thai friends say the economy is doing badly" Can you show me the economic indicators that show the Junta is driving the economy into the ground? Because the only ones I see that show the economy getting driven into the ground is when Bangkok witnessed daily terrorist attacks.

Have an election ASAP I wouldn't care if the yellows won democratically but anyone's better than this lot.

Wow your complaining how you do not like the Junta but are falling all over yourself for them to rush another election. Do you remember what happened after the election was rushed last time? The Junta stepped in after the violence and terrorist attacks. So your saying that won't happen again right? Why not? What has changed since then that will allow for a peaceful election. Nothing and that is why reform is needed.

Of course the economic climate is better than when the PDRC was blocking Bangkok and the government! The mere fact that Suthep's mobs went back home is sufficient to explain these improvements.

As concerns your comment "all my Thai friends say the economy is doing badly", let's just quote a recent paper (Dec. 6th) from "The Economist":

"This year it is likely to grow by only about 1%, far less than in 2013 (see chart). Consumer spending has recovered somewhat since the coup. But investment, tourism, exports and industrial output are all down."

http://www.economist.com/news/asia/21635605-new-political-order-takes-shape-thailands-elites-vie-position-next

As concerns the 3% GDP growth cited in the OP, it looks like coming out of a magic hat!

The OP doesn't tell to what the 3% GDP growth compares. Is it compared to the previous quarter, is it the same quarter last year ?

Quoted from the OP "The growth rate for this year stood at 3 percent, he added."

Now if you have some doubt about it, why don't you look for some data by yourself?

[pisico]

Please just throw the towel in before you drive the economy into the ground.

Have an election ASAP I wouldn't care if the yellows won democratically but anyone's better than this lot.

Everyday in every department it's policy on the run and that haven't got the expertise to run a chook raffle let alone a country!

Everyday in every department it's policy on the run and that haven't got the expertise to run a chook raffle let alone a country!

And the previous government had the "expertise" ??

As for the part of "drive economy into the ground"

Yingluck did a pretty good job of that with her rice-scam!!

...And before her there was a Palm oil Scam and the Rubber scam and...ad infinitum...Guys, wake up! T I T

[chooka]

so the military said they had to kick out the previous government due to uneconomic populism policies and now populism is the main policy of the military government.

Hypocrites

[chainarong]

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Thailand is in a confusing stage. There is no sense of direction of whatsoever.

Certainly has lost its momentum and has lost its way , very similar to previous governments, now grasping at straws to remain popular kid on the block.

[whybother]

so the military said they had to kick out the previous government due to uneconomic populism policies and now populism is the main policy of the military government.

Hypocrites

Who? The Sahapat Group?

[Lupatria]

Cash handouts to the grass root people so they also can go and order medals and uniforms...

[BoristheBlade]

I am not sure if you are serious, Dear Leader face the courts?

More chance of justice for the Red Bull killer or the real Koh Tao murderers.

What legal defense will Prayuth have when the government is found to have lost billions of baht on populist schemes? Yingluck should be found guilty of dereliction of duty in the rice case, it is public information that Kittirat, her finance minister, informed her that the government could not pay the agreed price for rice. He stated that 12,000 baht would be affordable. He was ignored by the Pm, chairman of the rice board, which is proof that she was negligent. If money is lost from a rubber farmers bailout and other populist schemes, is Prayuth prepared to face the courts?

[chooka]

so the military said they had to kick out the previous government due to uneconomic populism policies and now populism is the main policy of the military government.

Hypocrites

Who? The Sahapat Group?

The P.M and Junta who said they will stamp out vote buying and they are throwing gifts at the people to make them love the junta. Free movie tickets, free parties, reductions in oil prices, free land, teeth, hearing aids, opitical and end of year sales. The list of vote buying is endless. They also said they will remove the corruption but only to make way for the other pigs to feed.

[whybother]

so the military said they had to kick out the previous government due to uneconomic populism policies and now populism is the main policy of the military government.

Hypocrites

Who? The Sahapat Group?

The P.M and Junta who said they will stamp out vote buying and they are throwing gifts at the people to make them love the junta. Free movie tickets, free parties, reductions in oil prices, free land, teeth, hearing aids, opitical and end of year sales. The list of vote buying is endless. They also said they will remove the corruption but only to make way for the other pigs to feed.

Vote buying? Votes for what?

Given that it is the Sahapat group suggesting populist policies, and not the government, I'm not sure why you're saying the the government are hypocrites.

[GinBoy2]

In an uncertain world, its always comforting to know that some things never change.

Whoever the ruling clique of the day may be, and don't delude yourselves TVF zealots, they are all from the same social class & group, they all buy off their supporters with 'populist' policies

In all my years here through countless 'administrations' of various colors, red, yellow, and of course not forgetting green, if nothing else they all follow the same playbook, buy the loyalty of your particular target electorate; rice, rubber, palm oil schemes, you name it.

They are all, to a man crooks, believe otherwise and you really are deluded. Ask a supporter of Thakisin or Abbhist or Suthep or anyone of institutions unmentionable here, and they will all acknowledge they are crooks...but at least they are MY crooks.

But at least it allows otherwise bored old guys on TVF to vent their collective moral outrage, kinda serves the same function as Fox News towards whatever version of the corruption you chose to see.