Lite Beer Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 New Year accident death toll rises to 260 after five daysBANGKOK: -- A total of 2,446 road accidents have occurred during the first five days of the seven accident-monitoring days for New Year holidays, killing 260 people and injuring 2,542 others, the Road Safety Center announced Sunday.On Saturday, the fifth day of the monitoring period, 342 accidents occurred, killing 33 and injuring 379 others. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/New-Year-accident-death-toll-rises-to-260-after-fi-30251149.html -- The Nation 2015-01-04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Just1Voice Posted January 4, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 4, 2015 Darwinism at it's finest. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliep Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Still well under the daily average for 2014 - these dangerous days are the safest days to travel according to statistics 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cuchulainn Posted January 4, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 4, 2015 Wait until the high speed trains come along!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Still well under the daily average for 2014 - these dangerous days are the safest days to travel according to statistics The stats are a pure work of fiction anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Neeranam Posted January 4, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 4, 2015 Darwinism at it's finest. Please think before making some kinda attempt at humour, which is really racism in disguise. Have you any idea how many innocent people are killed or injured because of drunk drivers? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upena Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 And, in 2 days the Thai Government will declare the "Zero Accident" campaign a complete success 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Still well under the daily average for 2014 - these dangerous days are the safest days to travel according to statistics The average is well above normal for the provinces. Obviously Bangkok will be less due to it being so quiet. The injuries are way above the norm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lite Beer Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 Holiday road accident death toll reaches 260BANGKOK, 4 January 2015 (NNT) – The road accident death toll during the five-day New Year long holiday stands at 260, most of them were killed in Chiang Mai province.Deputy national police chief Pol.Lt.Gen. Suwira Songmetta said a total of 2,446 road accidents had taken place from 30 December 2014 - 3 January 2015 with the death toll of 260 and 2,542 injuries. There were five provinces with a zero death toll including Trang, Phatthalung, Narathiwat, Singburi and Nakhon Phanom. Chiang Mai had the highest number of road accidents or 109 times and the highest death toll of 14 people. It also had the highest number of injuries or 106 people.Police officers have set up more check points on main roads leading to Bangkok while closely monitoring accident-prone routes, junctions, narrow roads and railroad crossings. Special attention has been paid to preventing dangerous driving behaviors such as drunk-driving, speeding and no use of safety equipment. -- NNT 2015-01-04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobo4819 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Darwinism at it's finest. Please think before making some kinda attempt at humour, which is really racism in disguise. Have you any idea how many innocent people are killed or injured because of drunk drivers? Racism?!? Sorry, are Al or Jesse posting on this forum? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Darwinism at it's finest. Please think before making some kinda attempt at humour, which is really racism in disguise. Have you any idea how many innocent people are killed or injured because of drunk drivers? Racism?!? Sorry, are Al or Jesse posting on this forum? Why, who are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy chef 1 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Neeranam- what do you expect? it's the news forum ...plastered with Idi.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Just1Voice Posted January 4, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) Darwinism at it's finest. Please think before making some kinda attempt at humour, which is really racism in disguise. Have you any idea how many innocent people are killed or injured because of drunk drivers? It wasn't a "racist" comment, it was a statement of FACT. Thailand is #2 in the World in traffic deaths, and would probably easily be #1 if the TRUE figures were reported. Such as people dying in the hospital a day, or a week later, from injuries from the original accident. The is little to no accountability for drunk drivers who kill others. You have a police farce who don't have a clue as to what a moving violation is, and checkpoints only set up to collect "tea money". I love the Thai people, until you put one on a motorbike, or behind the wheel of a car or truck, and then their brain switches off. "Me first!" is the national motto. Passing on blind curves is a national sport. And they have zero concept of maintenance, driving on bald tires with breaks that haven't been inspected since the vehicle left the factory. And the more expensive the car you drive, the less accountability you have. The "Do you know who I am?" and the "Do you know who my father is?" Mantra was wore out years ago, but still holds true. I've been coming to Thailand off and on for over 40 years, and living here permanently for the past 7. And you know what? The only thing that's changed is the death numbers keep going up. That's not racist, that's FACT. Edited January 4, 2015 by Just1Voice 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan michaud Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Still well under the daily average for 2014 - these dangerous days are the safest days to travel according to statistics The average is well above normal for the provinces. Obviously Bangkok will be less due to it being so quiet. The injuries are way above the norm. The national average has been between 55 and 60 deaths per day for several years now. The big holidays like this and Songkran have much lower numbers in general so I don't understand all the fuss, it seems relatively safe to travel now, despite the appalling numbers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losworld Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Sadly perhaps another hub is created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudcrab Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Reading the numbers - and they are very bad by any measure - but it seems there is a ratio of roughly 10 to 1 in reported accidents to actual deaths. Anyone know if this is above/below or average compared to other countries. I could google it, but there are enough rabid statisticians on TV to do that for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alantheembalmer Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Still well under the daily average for 2014 - these dangerous days are the safest days to travel according to statistics The average is well above normal for the provinces. Obviously Bangkok will be less due to it being so quiet. The injuries are way above the norm. I would argue that it is when the Bangkok roads are quieter that they are at their most dangerous. When the traffic is at a standstill due to the volume of traffic, relatively few people are killed or injured. It is only when drivers can go faster that serious injuries or deaths occur. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheard Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Still well under the daily average for 2014 - these dangerous days are the safest days to travel according to statistics The average is well above normal for the provinces. Obviously Bangkok will be less due to it being so quiet. The injuries are way above the norm. The national average has been between 55 and 60 deaths per day for several years now. The big holidays like this and Songkran have much lower numbers in general so I don't understand all the fuss, it seems relatively safe to travel now, despite the appalling numbers. 260 deaths and 2542 injuries in 5 days and you call it "relatively safe to travel now". That makes at least 2802 people that would not agree with you. Might even be a few more out there . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Wait until the high speed trains come along!! Yes, this may reduce the number of road deaths if it ever happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear0Mack Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Still well under the daily average for 2014 - these dangerous days are the safest days to travel according to statistics The average is well above normal for the provinces. Obviously Bangkok will be less due to it being so quiet. The injuries are way above the norm. The national average has been between 55 and 60 deaths per day for several years now. The big holidays like this and Songkran have much lower numbers in general so I don't understand all the fuss, it seems relatively safe to travel now, despite the appalling numbers. 260 deaths and 2542 injuries in 5 days and you call it "relatively safe to travel now". That makes at least 2802 people that would not agree with you. Might even be a few more out there . . . Those 2802 can't disagree anymore though. So by the logic of silence... But seriously, the road toll is a national tragedy, and it seems that no one realizes it. I try to always walk past people on the left for this reason - You can't see a car coming behind you if you're walking on the left side of the road, so you must walk further left than those who are walking in the opposite direction, and can see the traffic. If I'm walking on the right side of the road, I'll pass on the left too, as a courtesy for other's safety. Despite that, Thai people still seem to like to walk past to the right of each other. I'm sure this literally backwards thinking has contributed to many casualties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asiantravel Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 The average is well above normal for the provinces. Obviously Bangkok will be less due to it being so quiet. The injuries are way above the norm. The national average has been between 55 and 60 deaths per day for several years now. The big holidays like this and Songkran have much lower numbers in general so I don't understand all the fuss, it seems relatively safe to travel now, despite the appalling numbers. 260 deaths and 2542 injuries in 5 days and you call it "relatively safe to travel now". That makes at least 2802 people that would not agree with you. Might even be a few more out there . . . Those 2802 can't disagree anymore though. So by the logic of silence... But seriously, the road toll is a national tragedy, and it seems that no one realizes it. I try to always walk past people on the left for this reason - You can't see a car coming behind you if you're walking on the left side of the road, so you must walk further left than those who are walking in the opposite direction, and can see the traffic. If I'm walking on the right side of the road, I'll pass on the left too, as a courtesy for other's safety. Despite that, Thai people still seem to like to walk past to the right of each other. I'm sure this literally backwards thinking has contributed to many casualties. " Despite that, Thai people still seem to like to walk past to the right of each other. I'm sure this literally backwards thinking has contributed to many casualties." yes I noticed that and wondered many times if it is some superstition which forces them do that even cutting across your path to do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asiantravel Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Reading the numbers - and they are very bad by any measure - but it seems there is a ratio of roughly 10 to 1 in reported accidents to actual deaths. Anyone know if this is above/below or average compared to other countries. I could google it, but there are enough rabid statisticians on TV to do that for me. I would think any comparison with need to be made with countries that have similar road conditions to Thailand. And also whether the comparison is being made with countries that have very little proactive police supervision even at dangerous hotspots which means, in so many cases it comes down to self-regulation. The other thing which makes comparison difficult is the revelation that Thailand has the highest alcohol consumption in ASEAN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredNL Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) Just drove up and down Bangkok - Hat Yai. About 2000km with lunatics, morrons, idiots and ass*holes behind the wheel. With Songkran again Edited January 4, 2015 by FredNL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuchulainn Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Wait until the high speed trains come along!! Yes, this may reduce the number of road deaths if it ever happens. The number of road deaths will pale into insignificance when the high-speeders start derailing!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smotherb Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Darwinism at it's finest. Please think before making some kinda attempt at humour, which is really racism in disguise. Have you any idea how many innocent people are killed or injured because of drunk drivers? Innocent lives or not, it's social evolution which is lacking. Simple conditional thinking--if I do this, then that may happen--does not occur; drunk or sober. Simple social interaction, like the ability to take rejection without losing your temper; realizing the laws apply to you too, even if you are rich; recognizing common courtesies, like right of way; having safety considerations, like six on a bike or multiple appliances on a single circuit; or understanding business ethics, like providing products and services without expecting a kickback: remain largely unknown or ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surasak Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Still well under the daily average for 2014 - these dangerous days are the safest days to travel according to statistics The average is well above normal for the provinces. Obviously Bangkok will be less due to it being so quiet. The injuries are way above the norm. I would argue that it is when the Bangkok roads are quieter that they are at their most dangerous. When the traffic is at a standstill due to the volume of traffic, relatively few people are killed or injured. It is only when drivers can go faster that serious injuries or deaths occur. Are you implying that speed kills? If so I beg to differ. It's not speed that kills, more like the sudden stop against something more solid than than flesh and blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby nz Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Considering that a previous report said that over 80% of the road deaths and injuries involved motorbikes and with the number of vehicles on the roads then those who drive things other than motorbikes can not be too bad. I watch road behavior carefully and for the most part it is good but as everywhere there are idiots out there who weave in and out of traffic, travel far to fast, pass on blind spots and drive after drinking, unfortunately it is mostly the idiots who cause the crashes and often take others with them. See the report on the speeding Merc that swerved to the wrong side of the road and took out a pickup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Considering that a previous report said that over 80% of the road deaths and injuries involved motorbikes and with the number of vehicles on the roads then those who drive things other than motorbikes can not be too bad. I watch road behavior carefully and for the most part it is good but as everywhere there are idiots out there who weave in and out of traffic, travel far to fast, pass on blind spots and drive after drinking, unfortunately it is mostly the idiots who cause the crashes and often take others with them. See the report on the speeding Merc that swerved to the wrong side of the road and took out a pickup. 20% of 28,000 is 5,600, divided by 52 weeks of the year . . . about 108 deaths a week for car and truck occupants. Pretty bad, near 26 a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliep Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 The figures I saw for 2010 (the only year I have seen), the average number of road deaths per day was 72. The statistics are clear, the so called dangerous days are actually currently safer. That's not to say the numbers aren't appalling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil fluffy clouds Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 In a world with rampant population growth, limited resource, severly compromised flora and fauna.....every little cull counts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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