espinoza Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 I know a Thai lady with a little baby she claim have a German father. This German guy do not pay anything for the baby, he denies his father-ship. The lady is left alone with the baby, without any job. Do anybody here know if she have any chance to get any help from Germany, if she can prove that he is the father ? If so, how should she do it ? Thank you in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beano2274 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Difficult as no proof that he is the father, also German Authorities are very difficult to deal with, and since she will be contacting them from Thailand even worse, she just has to put it down to experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espinoza Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share Posted January 6, 2015 Difficult as no proof that he is the father, also German Authorities are very difficult to deal with, and since she will be contacting them from Thailand even worse, she just has to put it down to experience. She says she can prove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazree360 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Wld she consider adoption Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beano2274 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 how can she prove it? She would need a DNA or his name on the birth certificate, to get his DNA if is she does not have it, would require her to go to court in Germany, the Germans would just laugh and not even bother with the court case. There is no way that he would be required to attend a DNA Test, without a court case, and it would cost her a lot of money, as she would have to pay for it, as she has no way to claim free legal advice in Germany. What proof does she have? An affadavit is nothing, as the Germans would believe this is a way to get the child and mother into Germany easily, and not accept it. I have dealings with the Embassy and I know the German Authorities as I live in Germany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espinoza Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share Posted January 6, 2015 Wld she consider adoption No, adoption is not anything she have considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espinoza Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share Posted January 6, 2015 how can she prove it? She would need a DNA or his name on the birth certificate, to get his DNA if is she does not have it, would require her to go to court in Germany, the Germans would just laugh and not even bother with the court case. There is no way that he would be required to attend a DNA Test, without a court case, and it would cost her a lot of money, as she would have to pay for it, as she has no way to claim free legal advice in Germany. What proof does she have? An affadavit is nothing, as the Germans would believe this is a way to get the child and mother into Germany easily, and not accept it. I have dealings with the Embassy and I know the German Authorities as I live in Germany She says she can prove it by DNA testing, I do not know if she know how. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherOneAmerican Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Tell her to use a condom next time. Thai guys don't have to pay, foreigners would be even harder. Tell us again why she didn't use protection? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beano2274 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 if she has no DNA test now, how can she prove it, he is not required by LAW to take a DNA Test, she would have to get a court order to do that, and she would have to get the court order from a German court as a Thai court order would not be recognized by the German Authorities here (in Germany). A no win situation for her. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ATF Posted January 6, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2015 I think you should marry her and live happily ever after. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espinoza Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share Posted January 6, 2015 Tell her to use a condom next time. Thai guys don't have to pay, foreigners would be even harder. Tell us again why she didn't use protection? Thank you for your deep analysis. I do not know and I do not want to know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy chef 1 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Tell her to use a condom next time. Thai guys don't have to pay, foreigners would be even harder. Tell us again why she didn't use protection? idiot.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy chef 1 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 02 287 9000 Ask for Herr/ MR Meusel... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jip99 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 OP I question your involvement in this. "I know a Thai girl...." stories rarely have a positive outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyLew Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Where does the alledged father live? Thailand or Germany? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussieroaming Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 is the german guys name Espinoza? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45slap Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 If I had a baby and the father wouldn't contribute I would be forced to have him 'relocated'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fey Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 what about abortion? if its against her beliefs then she takes responsibility. knew a lady in chiang mai this happened to but the guy was from denmark. they did the deed while traveling together, she had the kid and he was skint and returned to denmark and does not send money. claims he is unemployed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beano2274 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 what about abortion? if its against her beliefs then she takes responsibility. knew a lady in chiang mai this happened to but the guy was from denmark. they did the deed while traveling together, she had the kid and he was skint and returned to denmark and does not send money. claims he is unemployed. reading the original post it is quite certain that the baby has already arrived, how can she have an abortion, bit too late!!!!!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanuman2543 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) If the German Guy stays in Th approach the Family Court. If he stays in Ger approach the German Embassy first and then a German Lawyer specialized in family law. If she has proof of him being the father , the concerned government agencies ( Jugendamt) will make him pay. But it will take time and money and don't expect too much, about 100 EUR a month. Edited January 7, 2015 by hanuman2543 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norrad Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Don't listen to all of these posters claiming she can do nothing. The German Embassy in Sathorn Road is very helpful in this. I helped a neighborhood friend with a similar problem. First off, make sure the guy is listed as the father on the birth certificate. Get it translated into English and certified by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Then get it translated into German and simply stamped by a certified translator. She must keep all communications she had with the man. Emails, SMS etc. And give copies of them to the embassy. The embassy will start the process of putting in an attachment of wages on his salary in Germany. It will take a while but the ball will then fall into his court and he will have to prove he is not the father of the child. Sent from my ASUS_T00I using Tapatalk 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanuman2543 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) Don't forget that the child can have German citizenship and can live in Ger together with the mother and the mother has the right to a visa and a work permit. Additional the free, good education, healthcare and many other benefits. Plus, if the child stays in Ger the child support he has to pay is around 4 times higher and the government will pay "Kindergeld" which is around 180 EUR per month. If you want to know how much he has to pay, Google " Duesseldorfer Tabelle". And it is an urban legend that Thais don't have to pay child support. Go to the Family Court and do the proper procedure and they have to. Edited January 7, 2015 by hanuman2543 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beano2274 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 before anyone else gives false information I think it would be best if the OP asked his friend what proof she has that he is the father of the child, then and only then can we really give the correct advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espinoza Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 Where does the alledged father live? Thailand or Germany? I do not know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espinoza Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 is the german guys name Espinoza? No, its not me :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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