Just installed Mozilla "Thunderbird" Email Client ; How to set up to work with Yho, Hot, & G, Mail ?

[Our Man in the Tropics]

I currently have another Thread since 02nd Jan 2015 ;

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/788679-yahoo-email-ac-;-cannot-access-or-send-to-554-delivery-error-;-and-y-help-not-helpful/?p=8902605

Following the learned recommendation to install Email Client Application, & specifically Mozilla "Thunderbird" for me an email client novice, I duly did so.

Now, I am completely lost as to how to set it up for my particular situation.

Looking forward to ur good guidance on this folks.

For the sake of simplicity, & brevity, I decided to isolate this part of my overall email problem situation. to be a separate TV thread.

I thrust that at least 1 Poster Chappie/Chaplet will find this part similarly "fascinating"

[dddave]

GOOGLE will always be your savvy friend in this kind of situation. Just GOOGLE "setting up thunderbird" When you get the first page, click on "Videos" at the top of the page.

Many video tutorials that show you every step.

[RichCor]

^^^ Always a good recommendation.

Probably better that trying to do it without ANY hands-on assistance.

I would add "setting up thunderbird for yahoo" and look for a guide with pictures.

[Our Man in the Tropics]

Thanks for the replies dddave & RichCor ;

I will pursue what yee recommend tomorrow.

[Our Man in the Tropics]

Re ; Thunderbird as Email Client for Yahoo Webmail a/c

I note ;

A]*

Ref. http://www.ehow.com/how_5008981_configure-mozilla-thunderbird-yahoo-mail.html

Mozilla Thunderbird will ONLY work with Yahoo! Mail Plus accounts that offer POP access.

It will NOT work with free Yahoo! email accounts.

And,- anyway ;

B]*

Ref. http://www.ehow.com/how_6518718_set-up-pop3-yahoo-mail.html

Mail sent to your client will be deleted from the Yahoo! Mail website.

So once you have received it in the client, you will NOT be able to read it on the website.

*Redacted by me

Edited January 8, 2015 by Our Man in the Tropics

[RichCor]

Me thinks you are a bit confused.

wikipedia Add Your Yahoo mail Account to Thunderbird Using IMAP

Yes, it's true that there are POP3 limitations with Yahoo! Mail.

The normal mode of POP3 Client is to Fetch and Erase from the MailServer. While you can set POP3 to leave email on the MailServer, if many different POP3 clients access the same MailServer Account then the MailServer Account runs the continuing risk of having the item database being corrupted.

When using multiple client apps to access the same MailServer account we recommend using IMAP, not POP3.

The normal mode of IMAP Clients is to grab a copy of the message but allow the MailServer to be the repository of all email.

Google has successfully used a modified version of IMAP for many years to deliver email to multiple types of clients, thin, full and web-based.

I've included a link above for IMAP setup.

Edited January 8, 2015 by RichCor

[Our Man in the Tropics]

Thanks RichCor,

Thunderbird per Yahoo Email a/c [ Free a/c ]

Sounds very hopeful now for Thunderbird to be sweet for Yahoo Web Mail [ vis. "Free" Yahoo Web Mail a/c ].

POP3 Method of "Fetch to Device & Erase from Mail Server" even to me a relative basic computer user does not seem desirable per :

a]

universal access when needed

b]

insurance of default original on Mail Server were the device to kiss goodbye.

If IMAP auto-keeps the Original Email & Attachment on Mail Server when fetching Copy of E & A to Device,- this much more agreeable for me.

Ahead of I starting to read tonight the links u gave, I send u the following for ur opinion ;

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/thunderbird-and-gmail

Thunderbird & Gmail

Thunderbird can be configured to work seamlessly with Google's Gmail service.

Messages are synchronized between your local version of Thunderbird and the web-based Gmail.

Gmail accounts created on or about June 2014 (exact date unknown, Google only mentions "2nd half of 2014" in their new authentication blog post) will not work with Thunderbird until the Thunderbird team implements Google's non-email-standard authentication.

This is currently scheduled for Thunderbird 38 which will be released on April 7, 2015.

See bug 849540 for the full technical details

However,-

[Our Man in the Tropics]

Hi RichCor,

Ref. Quick read of Yahoo Link ; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!_Mail

................................

Free IMAP and SMTPs access

Yahoo operates IMAP and secure IMAP servers (imap.mail.yahoo.com in particular), which are globally accessible. According to the company, IMAP access is only allowed forsmartphones on mobile networks.^[12]

For regular users, an IMAP proxy like Yahoo IMAP Connector^[13] may be needed to connect to the Yahoo! IMAP servers.

Alternatively, modifications are available for some email clients, such as Mozilla Thunderbird

...................................

[Our Man in the Tropics]

Hi RichCor again,

When I click on ur Link "Add Your Yahoo mail Account to Thunderbird Using IMAP", I get only this very Thread / Page as result.

So, I searched on Google the string of the Link.

Result ;

http://pop2imap.com/yahoo_thunderbird.php

Excerpt ;

POP is bad. IMAP is good.

Add Your Yahoo mail Account to Thunderbird Using IMAP

To set up your Thunderbird client to work with Yahoo:

[RichCor]

Yea, ThaiVisa did a number to the link.

Add Your Yahoo mail Account to Thunderbird Using IMAP

POP is bad, IMAP is good.

The item you quoted, "... According to the company [Yahoo], IMAP access is only allowed for smartphones on mobile networks.[12]".

I read this as saying Mobile Network Devices are limited to using IMAP connections, as Mobile Network Operators tend to block POP and SMTP connections.

[Our Man in the Tropics]

Hi RichCor

Re; Thunderbird for Yahoo "Free" Email AND Thunderbird for Gmail

I wonder ; Should I operate policy of :

1.

a]

1 Thunderbird a/c per 1 Yahoo a/c only ? or

b]

1 Thunderbird a/c per all Yahoo a/c's ?

2.

a]

1 Thunderbird a/c per 1 Gmail a/c only ? or

b]

1 Thunderbird a/c per all Gmail a/c's ?

OR

3.

1 Thunderbird a/c per all Yahoo a/c's AND per all Gmail a/c's ?

Re; Thunderbird for Gmail specifically

What are ur thoughts on this ? ;

Ref.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/thunderbird-and-gmail

Gmail accounts created on or about June 2014 (exact date unknown, Google only mentions "2nd half of 2014" in their new authentication blog post) will NOT work with Thunderbird UNTIL the Thunderbird team implements Google's non-email-standard authentication.

This is currently scheduled for Thunderbird 38 which will be released on April 7, 2015.

See bug 849540 for the full technical details

Again, thanks RichCor for ur keen follow-up.

Edited January 9, 2015 by Our Man in the Tropics

[RichCor]

Not sure what you're asking. Normally you create an new account entry in TB for each account you wish to view.

SMTP outgoing is another matter. Some people just set up one SMTP account with a working user account as it cuts down on time spend diagnosing issues when you can't send outgoing email.

I forgot to note that IMAP accounts are unique in that connecting devices are considered a Looking Glass peering into the account on the server. Shadow copies of messages can be kept on your device (limited to device application reserved memory) but the messages cached on the device may disappear if there are connection issues. You may run across dire messages on the Internet from people not understanding how IMAP accounts work and believe all their messages were 'erased', then were 'recovered' only after several angry emails -- when nothing of the sort actually happened at all, well except the the angry emails.

As for the google gmail notice, it seems to only affect new gmail accounts created after Jun 2014. Accounts created prior to that would not have the new non-email-standard authentication. Though it seems odd that only new accounts would have that restrictions. All I can say it try adding the older accounts to TB and see if it connects. If you created your gmail accounts after Jun 2014 then you can try following the instructions for connecting but will most likely have to wait until TB modifies and published a working update.

[Our Man in the Tropics]

Hi Rich Cor,

Actually ur particular attempt at answering my questions is spot on ;

Thank u.

I will need more time to follow up on what u have presented.

Now thanks to u, & the other kind folk who contributed too of course, I am very much nearer to finally setting up Thunderbird for Y Mail, & G Mail.

Eventual set-ups will be each be the optimum one for for my circumstances.

And in reassuringly relevant understood way for me ;

Yes,- on the crest of Thunderbird's learning curve I'll be flying confidently.

Cheers.

I will return hopefully tomorrow ;

Otherwise in about 3 or 4 days time.

Must depart LOS for Visa tomorrow.

Edited January 9, 2015 by Our Man in the Tropics