Want to move to LOS permamently (25 years old, not a native speaker)

[Bakeman]

^{Thailand doesn't want foreign workers. They want self sustained, money throwing, retirees who do not stress their economy or take from its profits.}

[catman20]

sounds like another disaster waiting to happen

[MiKT]

Guinessbottlism

???

Abaya + niqab + god only knows

I forgot to add the following disclaimer "I am not Charlies Aunt and this is not (as far as I know) a picture representing the wife of any profitable person".

[ThePlant]

Guinessbottlism

???

Abaya + niqab + god only knows

Cheers for the explanation. Excellent adjective....

[cracker1]

Forget about Asia. Without any qualifications other than your Turkish University (have a look and see what it's world ranking is). Get a real job in Europe and some business experience, and some" living on your own experience" that will help you grow. Also you need to learn English language if you want to exist in the "real world" I wish you luck, but you have a lot of growing to do before you can come to Thailand with what you have said so far.

[AZBill]

Great place to visit and travel around but not a great long term prospect for a young fellow. Spend some time, get it out of your system, find a beautiful Thai lady to settle down with then go home. The long term option is more suited to those who are older and have a pension or other passive income, and even a large amount of those guys are leaving these days. I for one would never live in Thailand though I do love to visit with my wife.

[Lukecan]

Thanks for all the replies, and those who say I'm trolling, why would I lie about something like this? The point is I'm trying to settle down in S.E.A permanently, I wouldnt be a TV member if I didnt frequent Thailand so much. I know many people share my dream here too. I received a very detailed message from a valuable TV member, would like to thank him from here, going to read it througly.I would like to thank everyone giving me ideas, but the people who are accusing me of trolling are trolling here themselves, making up BS stories that I came here for a girl I met on Thaifriendly. The normal route most people take is working their ass off in the west by being a corporate slave, and retiring at 50-60, then coming here when they've lost their youth. But I want to try an alternative way, and jump start my career from here, S.E.A is best enjoyed when you're young. I'd probably head to my country when I'm older, its better to be a young person here.

[ggt]

Take your parents money...visit the cities you have interest in...learn the language and culture...while probing the SE Asia area for a job using the internet and large newspaper classifieds...good luck...

[sdanielmcev]

Dilettante I think is the missing word here. Like Hump in The Sea Wolf. If the OP wants party like it's 1979, more powder to him. Thing about dilettantes is, usually the only thing they are good at is being a dilettante. With other dilettantes.

[Buakaw]

OP, reading your posts you come across to me as a little spoiled kid that depend on your parents to support you.

Don't give me excuses you don't want to take money from your parents or you want to work.

You are only thinking of yourself and how to enjoy your life on your parents expenses.

Get a job first in Turkey, prove yourself that you are capable to conduct your own life and then start thinking of coming to Thailand and start partying.

You are too young and inexperienced and dreams like that don't usually have a good outcome.

I know you don't like what I say, but sometimes you have to listen to people with more experience in life than you.

Life experience means <deleted> all. This guy is 25 and quite right to have big dreams and aspirations.

To OP:

Anything you want in life is possible with the belief in yourself (probably something that Costas2008 is struggling to come to terms with.

I am the same age as you and had the same ideology about S.E.A. It is possible to stay in Thailand (without teaching English) and be legal.

If you want my advise, it is purely about positive mentality. Make a plan and make it happen. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

Ubonjoe told me this advice last year before I made my move here to LOS. This year, I'm happy to say, I work for a Thai company (with work permit) and have no degree.

Believe 100% in your own ability and don't forget a lot of TV members who put you down are envious of your situation and just can't resist having a go from their bar stool somewhere in Pattaya.

[Lukecan]

Forget about Asia. Without any qualifications other than your Turkish University (have a look and see what it's world ranking is). Get a real job in Europe and some business experience, and some" living on your own experience" that will help you grow. Also you need to learn English language if you want to exist in the "real world" I wish you luck, but you have a lot of growing to do before you can come to Thailand with what you have said so far.

I have an excellent command of both written and spoken English, English is not the issue here.

[SoiBiker]

Wow. Nothing gets the old guard's adult diapers in a bunch like somebody under 50 wanting to move here and make a go of it - especially if they're not here for the women.

Ignore these bitter old fools. They just don't want to share their playground with anyone younger than them.

[Sirbergan]

Wow. Nothing gets the old guard's adult diapers in a bunch like somebody under 50 wanting to move here and make a go of it - especially if they're not here for the women.

Ignore these bitter old fools. They just don't want to share their playground with anyone younger than them.

They're great whenever you're feeling down, though. Reading some of these replies makes you realise your life must be pretty fantastic in comparison.

[Friendly Stranger]

You don't state why you want to move to SEA. If it's for a career, bad place to start.

I dont really care about my career.I want a place that makes me happy, and S.E.A definitely nails it. The way of life, the climiate, unlimited dining options, buzzling nightlife, relatively low cost of living , when you combine all of these factors it looks attractive in my eyes

But have you been here before?

SEA is great but sift through some of the suggestions as putting out the word "permanently" is a premature.

Come for a visit on a tourist visa and check out those other countries. And, do it at your parents expense.

You have a lot of research to do. Good luck.

[Lukecan]

You don't state why you want to move to SEA. If it's for a career, bad place to start.

I dont really care about my career.I want a place that makes me happy, and S.E.A definitely nails it. The way of life, the climiate, unlimited dining options, buzzling nightlife, relatively low cost of living , when you combine all of these factors it looks attractive in my eyes

But have you been here before?

Yes I spent most of my childhood in s.e.a

[YeahSiam]

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Welcome Thailand please come soon

another digital pikey/movie actor/Ed visa abuser/Walt/wannabee/quality tourist in the in the making

Good to see the B.O.M. (Bitter Old Men) are at it again. Taking aim

at anyone young enough to manage a stiffy without a blue pill and

willing to have a go at a life less structured and ordinary.

Even the fat Greek felt emboldened enough to weigh in with a couple

of bitter digs about the guy's age as if he doesn't want to be reminded

of what it was like to be young and attractive to women for more than

an ability to pull a few baht out of his pocket every month.

When it all comes down to it, you people just want to feel

special in some way even if, in reality, you're all pretty dull and boring.

I thank the stars every single day that I never turned out-and

never will turn out-like you people alt=bah.gif>

Oh dear, another proven, exposed cyber fantasist, with nothing to add to the topic, trying to make out he's a 25 year old millionaire with a bird he's not paying for or who probably pays the rent for his 2500B a month Udomsuk grindhouse.....He'll be making things up about takeaways and wine next....

Oh dear. Another thoroughly predictable defecation of a post

replete with the same, tired old assumptions about fan rooms,

boiler room earnings or living on Pot Noodle. Can't bear the fact

that smarter people are travelling light and have no allegiance to

Thailand beyond its compelling cost of living, lovely weather and

amazing food.

You're welcome to continue thinking your way is the only way and

stagnate while the rest of the world rolls right past you.

[AYJAYDEE]

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Welcome Thailand please come soon

another digital pikey/movie actor/Ed visa abuser/Walt/wannabee/quality tourist in the in the making

Good to see the B.O.M. (Bitter Old Men) are at it again. Taking aim

at anyone young enough to manage a stiffy without a blue pill and

willing to have a go at a life less structured and ordinary.

Even the fat Greek felt emboldened enough to weigh in with a couple

of bitter digs about the guy's age as if he doesn't want to be reminded

of what it was like to be young and attractive to women for more than

an ability to pull a few baht out of his pocket every month.

When it all comes down to it, you people just want to feel

special in some way even if, in reality, you're all pretty dull and boring.

I thank the stars every single day that I never turned out-and

never will turn out-like you people alt=bah.gif>

Oh dear, another proven, exposed cyber fantasist, with nothing to add to the topic, trying to make out he's a 25 year old millionaire with a bird he's not paying for or who probably pays the rent for his 2500B a month Udomsuk grindhouse.....He'll be making things up about takeaways and wine next....

Oh dear. Another thoroughly predictable defecation of a post

replete with the same, tired old assumptions about fan rooms,

boiler room earnings or living on Pot Noodle. Can't bear the fact

that smarter people are travelling light and have no allegiance to

Thailand beyond its compelling cost of living, lovely weather and

amazing food.

You're welcome to continue thinking your way is the only way and

stagnate while the rest of the world rolls right past you.

smart people? if he was so smart he wouldnt be here looking for ideas how to survive without his mommy and daddy! lol

[wprime]

The flying gig is probably best, I hear Malaysia's looking for some new pilots.

[Lukecan]

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Welcome Thailand please come soon

another digital pikey/movie actor/Ed visa abuser/Walt/wannabee/quality tourist in the in the making

Good to see the B.O.M. (Bitter Old Men) are at it again. Taking aim

at anyone young enough to manage a stiffy without a blue pill and

willing to have a go at a life less structured and ordinary.

Even the fat Greek felt emboldened enough to weigh in with a couple

of bitter digs about the guy's age as if he doesn't want to be reminded

of what it was like to be young and attractive to women for more than

an ability to pull a few baht out of his pocket every month.

When it all comes down to it, you people just want to feel

special in some way even if, in reality, you're all pretty dull and boring.

I thank the stars every single day that I never turned out-and

never will turn out-like you people alt=bah.gif>

Oh dear, another proven, exposed cyber fantasist, with nothing to add to the topic, trying to make out he's a 25 year old millionaire with a bird he's not paying for or who probably pays the rent for his 2500B a month Udomsuk grindhouse.....He'll be making things up about takeaways and wine next....

Oh dear. Another thoroughly predictable defecation of a post

replete with the same, tired old assumptions about fan rooms,

boiler room earnings or living on Pot Noodle. Can't bear the fact

that smarter people are travelling light and have no allegiance to

Thailand beyond its compelling cost of living, lovely weather and

amazing food.

You're welcome to continue thinking your way is the only way and

stagnate while the rest of the world rolls right past you.

smart people? if he was so smart he wouldnt be here looking for ideas how to survive without his mommy and daddy! lol

I never said I'm smart, but ı'm probably above average intelligence. I just wanted some feedback from TV members, eventough 80% of the posts are bullshit, the 20% makes up for it. I thank all the guys in the 20% for providing valuable ideas, I'll definitely look into it.

[ThePlant]

Oh dear. Another thoroughly predictable defecation of a post

replete with the same, tired old assumptions about fan rooms,

boiler room earnings or living on Pot Noodle. Can't bear the fact

that smarter people are travelling light and have no allegiance to

Thailand beyond its compelling cost of living, lovely weather and

amazing food.

You're welcome to continue thinking your way is the only way and

stagnate while the rest of the world rolls right past you.

Oh dear, the pikeys are out in force showing their rather embarrassing, almost cringeworthy, envy at those of us who have performed the simple task of managing to become fully official, functioning, and if I say so myself, successful members of an overseas society off our own backs no matter what allegiance we may or not have to said society.....it's not difficult to see how much that simple fact really sticks in the craw of these "young, free spirits passing the world by" from the grindhouses of Udomsuk......

[Berkshire]

The normal route most people take is working their ass off in the west by being a corporate slave, and retiring at 50-60, then coming here when they've lost their youth. But I want to try an alternative way, and jump start my career from here, S.E.A is best enjoyed when you're young. I'd probably head to my country when I'm older, its better to be a young person here.

Hmmm, not sure I would agree with this. I thoroughly enjoyed my youth back in the USA...and made a good living while building up a secure retirement. Most of S.E.A. want to see their own citizens in key jobs, not foreigners. Sure you can probably get by and have a good time in your youth. But by the time you're ready to "head to (your) country when you're older," you're going to realize that you've pissed away your most productive years with nothing to show for it.

It's your life....good luck.

[Soutpeel]

Wow. Nothing gets the old guard's adult diapers in a bunch like somebody under 50 wanting to move here and make a go of it - especially if they're not here for the women.

Ignore these bitter old fools. They just don't want to share their playground with anyone younger than them.

The amusing things, some of the "old guard" you refer to who are making comments are actually under 50 and and employed legally in various professional capacities in Thailand, so guess that kinda poo poo's the whole premise of your post, but I am beginning to see a pattern that various pikeys and other ,"hangers on" seem to have a fixation with old men

[SoiBiker]

Whereas you don't have an obsession with 'pikeys'. No sirree. Not at all.

[Daffy D]

Once you get you pilot license you could apply for a job with Susi Air in Indonesia ;-

https://www.pilotcareercentre.com/Air-Carrier-PCC-Profile/2290/Susi+Air

Just read the Susi air job advertisement and although i have a Private Pilot's

Licence, i wouldn't want to fly commercially withought much more flying hours

and higher ratings,, i got really scared just reading the application,,, made me

think of the maybe underqualified Air Asia pilots,,, scary stuff

Scary maybe - He is a young lad looking for adventure and excitement. He would have the freedom, fun and prestige of being a "bush" pilot while clocking up the hours to possibly work for a major airline at a later date,

If I was 100 year younger I would consider it.

[Friendly Stranger]

The normal route most people take is working their ass off in the west by being a corporate slave, and retiring at 50-60, then coming here when they've lost their youth. But I want to try an alternative way, and jump start my career from here, S.E.A is best enjoyed when you're young. I'd probably head to my country when I'm older, its better to be a young person here.

Hmmm, not sure I would agree with this. I thoroughly enjoyed my youth back in the USA...and made a good living while building up a secure retirement. Most of S.E.A. want to see their own citizens in key jobs, not foreigners. Sure you can probably get by and have a good time in your youth. But by the time you're ready to "head to (your) country when you're older," you're going to realize that you've pissed away your most productive years with nothing to show for it.

It's your life....good luck.

"S.E.A is best enjoyed when you're young"

How do you know this?

Corporate slave? You did say you wanted to teach in SEA.

[SoiBiker]

Life is best enjoyed as early as you can. Even if it annoys those who feel you should live through a few decades of misery first like they did.

[Lukecan]

Have to say I don't really want to be a passenger with a pilot who 'wants a flying gig' ?!!

What makes you think I wont take my job seriously and adhere to all the safety rules? Lots of young lads call teaching in thailand a teaching gig, and some of these folks are really great teachers they do their best to give thai kids a good English education.

[AYJAYDEE]

Life is best enjoyed as early as you can. Even if it annoys those who feel you should live through a few decades of misery first like they did.

if you plan it right , life is enjoyed at every stage. this kid sounds like he's headed for misery at the back end.

[freebyrd]

At 25 what do most young fellas have on their mind? Unless you're a Stephen Hawking you are probably thinking with your small head and not your big one. It seems to me that he's in search of totty and is using this career thing as a cover story.

As we used to say in the mob 'you need to get some time in' before you start playing with the big boys. My lad wanted to come and stay in BKK with me when he was 18. I told him OK then I would ship him upcountry after a couple of days to stay with relatives. He admitted then that he wanted to come and....well...you know, so the move never happened

I saw more than one youngster in BKK back in the day who moved here with the same intentions and ended up living with, and being supported by, a bar girl. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

I would be interested to know how this pans out if he does make the move.....

[Lukecan]

The normal route most people take is working their ass off in the west by being a corporate slave, and retiring at 50-60, then coming here when they've lost their youth. But I want to try an alternative way, and jump start my career from here, S.E.A is best enjoyed when you're young. I'd probably head to my country when I'm older, its better to be a young person here.

Hmmm, not sure I would agree with this. I thoroughly enjoyed my youth back in the USA...and made a good living while building up a secure retirement. Most of S.E.A. want to see their own citizens in key jobs, not foreigners. Sure you can probably get by and have a good time in your youth. But by the time you're ready to "head to (your) country when you're older," you're going to realize that you've pissed away your most productive years with nothing to show for it.

It's your life....good luck.

"S.E.A is best enjoyed when you're young"

How do you know this?

Corporate slave? You did say you wanted to teach in SEA.

I dont think teaching 10-15 hours a week qualifies as being a "corporate slave"

I recently had a summer internship at a well known investment bank, decided that the corporate world is definitely not my cup of tea.Too much politics going on, and a lot of people are obsessed with their career. Add to that the working environment is a tough one, I had days where I had to leave the office at 7pm, some of my colleagues worked until 10-11pm to finish the tasks given. I asked them why the hell they were sacrificing their private time without asking for overtime pay, the generic reply given was that they wont make it to a higher level If they didnt work overtime voluntarily.

They were slaves of the system, they had car payments, mortgage payments to keep up with. I'm fortunate enough not to worry about these things.