robblok Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Now all we can wait for is the first time a farang all tooled up to shoot dogs or hit them while he rides his bike gets an 8000 bt fine and a year in jail Great opportunities lie ahead for the BIB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonfly94 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Suggest you watch how pigs are slaughtered in Thailand SP as it's horrific and certainly less 'humane' than the way in which the unfortunate dog was dispatched. That's why their pork is shit, and you cant get decent Ham, bacon or whatever cut of meat. If someone could just educate them they could earn more money from the livestock, by learning the best way to kill a pig. They know better though, farang eat from supermarket knows nothing in their minds. Ham and bacon is cured, it's nothing to do with how it's slaughtered. Thai pork in the markets is IMHO very good and you can choose your own cut. If a pig is stressed at time of death it secretes adrenaline and other neuro chemicals. That leads to poor meat. This is a myth, this is not and this is in Australia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakajima Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 As a dog owner also, I have to disagree with this sentencing as this was not an act of cruelty. If they were torturing the dog, or any other animal, then they deserve to be punished. However, killing an animal to eat is very different, if it was killed quickly, which it sounds like it was. Cultural differences in appetite are not reason for punishment. There is a law forbidding such practice, it is not cultural difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakajima Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 I like dogs, actually I think I like dogs more than I like people most of the time! However, as others have said, it's wrong to say that killing a dog to eat it is criminal but killing a pig or a chicken or a duck is fine. Laws protecting animals defined as "pets" exist all through the civilized world. It is criminal because laws say so and most Thai are very happy that such laws exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHamon Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Sad, but what is the difference between killing the dog for consumption and killing a chicken, pig or a cow? yeah.. don't understand... if it was killed with a single blow and then prepared for eating.... how is that any different to a pig? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakajima Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 A dog is mans best friend a chicken cow or pig fish etc are part of the food chain. Cruelty in all forms is disgusting however the killing of our food sources is mostly done human land the beast doesn't suffer and people will happily sit down and eat their leg of lamb without a second thought. However the other day the article on the ivory trade drew around 8 posts which really shows how much people care. Mankind has a lot to answer for! So let me get this right. An animal will sit there licking his nuts for 20 minutes, then comes and licks your face - that's what you consider best friend material? I'll take a dog anytime over you. Smarter for sure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonfly94 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 It's quite interesting to read this news. I have seen many Thai families who own 4-5 dogs and do not look after any of them. In the end many of these drift off to soi and become a menace to people passing by and local council will not take any actions. And because these stupid people will make claim on these animals, you cant even poison them. There are times when I used to walk around with a stick at night time to scare soi dog's away. I agree with Somtam. What difference it makes if it s cow, chicken, lamb, pig or a dog? 1 less dog in street is one less chance to get rabies. Wouldn't it be nice if some of that poison you put out for the dogs got eaten by your or another persons child. Karma is what a person like you deserves. You don't 'put' poison out you find the dog give it to it and it wolfs it down, no need to leave it lying about the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonfly94 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 I like dogs, actually I think I like dogs more than I like people most of the time! However, as others have said, it's wrong to say that killing a dog to eat it is criminal but killing a pig or a chicken or a duck is fine. Laws protecting animals defined as "pets" exist all through the civilized world. It is criminal because laws say so and most Thai are very happy that such laws exist. That's animalism, 'all animals are equal but some are more equal than others', i'm sure you know where that comes from 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian1980 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Sad, but what is the difference between killing the dog for consumption and killing a chicken, pig or a cow? Nothing and at least i find meat dog more tastable then cow and pig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rojelio Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 These responses to this article serves to remind how stupid people can be. It never seems to fail in this forum. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondKing Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 A dog is mans best friend a chicken cow or pig fish etc are part of the food chain. Cruelty in all forms is disgusting however the killing of our food sources is mostly done human land the beast doesn't suffer and people will happily sit down and eat their leg of lamb without a second thought. However the other day the article on the ivory trade drew around 8 posts which really shows how much people care. Mankind has a lot to answer for! That is your mentality many places around the world a dog is just another meal Personally I dont think this was cruelty they killed it just as you would kill a Pig and then Butcher it for consumption where did the cruelty come in ?? if they threw it in the river in a tied up bag Ok thats cruelty or threw bricks at it ok but dispatching it for consumption I dont see where it is cruel. Just because we have a different mentality does not mean that it is cruel to dispatch and eat a Dog personally I think the court was wrong in this case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlyAnimal Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Huh... Is cruelty to animals or killing animals prohibited? The article says cruelty, but a single blow to the head, or a shot from a gun, to kill a dog, doesn't seem overly cruel. A lethal injection would seem nicer, but it's likely not a drawn out death and there obviously aren't any intentions to cause suffering. I would have thought that the law was in place to prevent suffering and cruelty to animals (e.g. Torture or the intentional or unintentional causing of suffering via neglect), and it's particularly annoying that this soi dog animal rights group is pushing for the jail term for someone who simply kills their dog. Or is it simply because they were going to eat it? Or because they put pictures on facebook? Are vets allowed to put down animals? Or is that against the law as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondKing Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Forgot to say Dog is delicious had it in Laos and one of the best meats I ever tasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Dogs are higher in status then motorbikedrivers, they can sleep at the middle of the road and all cars will avoid them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiestyFarang Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 It's quite interesting to read this news. I have seen many Thai families who own 4-5 dogs and do not look after any of them. In the end many of these drift off to soi and become a menace to people passing by and local council will not take any actions. And because these stupid people will make claim on these animals, you cant even poison them. There are times when I used to walk around with a stick at night time to scare soi dog's away. I agree with Somtam. What difference it makes if it s cow, chicken, lamb, pig or a dog? 1 less dog in street is one less chance to get rabies. Poisoning is a very painful and slow death. If you ever poison any animal I will try and get the Police to arrest you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iReason Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Sad, but what is the difference between killing the dog for consumption and killing a chicken, pig or a cow? What is the difference? It's illegal. http://www.tradeofshame.org https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkKI65zF9YM#t=383 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iReason Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Suggest you watch how pigs are slaughtered in Thailand SP as it's horrific and certainly less 'humane' than the way in which the unfortunate dog was dispatched. You think? I suggest you watch this; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkKI65zF9YM#t=389 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sviss Geez Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Sad, but what is the difference between killing the dog for consumption and killing a chicken, pig or a cow? The way it is killed perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iReason Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Suggest you watch how pigs are slaughtered in Thailand SP as it's horrific and certainly less 'humane' than the way in which the unfortunate dog was dispatched. That's why their pork is shit, and you cant get decent Ham, bacon or whatever cut of meat. If someone could just educate them they could earn more money from the livestock, by learning the best way to kill a pig. They know better though, farang eat from supermarket knows nothing in their minds. Ham and bacon is cured, it's nothing to do with how it's slaughtered. Thai pork in the markets is IMHO very good and you can choose your own cut. If a pig is stressed at time of death it secretes adrenaline and other neuro chemicals. That leads to poor meat. Correct. And not just pigs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sviss Geez Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 A dog is mans best friend a chicken cow or pig fish etc are part of the food chain. Cruelty in all forms is disgusting however the killing of our food sources is mostly done human land the beast doesn't suffer and people will happily sit down and eat their leg of lamb without a second thought. However the other day the article on the ivory trade drew around 8 posts which really shows how much people care. Mankind has a lot to answer for! "A dog is mans best friend..." Says who? Maybe your best friend but probably not the majority of people's best friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinchester Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Suggest you watch how pigs are slaughtered in Thailand SP as it's horrific and certainly less 'humane' than the way in which the unfortunate dog was dispatched. You think? I suggest you watch this; That video was just plain nasty but had nothing in common to the way the dog was killed in the op if the report is to believed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sviss Geez Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Why is a story like this big line news in the Thai press? It's in the press because it may be of interest to some people and judging by the response to this thread it is, even you joined in. What's "big line" news anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sviss Geez Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 That's animalism, 'all animals are equal but some are more equal than others', i'm sure you know where that comes from It's quoted from a work of fiction isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sviss Geez Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 (edited) Huh... Is cruelty to animals or killing animals prohibited? The article says cruelty, but a single blow to the head, or a shot from a gun, to kill a dog, doesn't seem overly cruel. A lethal injection would seem nicer, but it's likely not a drawn out death and there obviously aren't any intentions to cause suffering. I would have thought that the law was in place to prevent suffering and cruelty to animals (e.g. Torture or the intentional or unintentional causing of suffering via neglect), and it's particularly annoying that this soi dog animal rights group is pushing for the jail term for someone who simply kills their dog. Or is it simply because they were going to eat it? Or because they put pictures on facebook? Are vets allowed to put down animals? Or is that against the law as well? "Are vets allowed to put down animals? Or is that against the law as well?" To quote you...huh? And the comment's from a moderator. Unbelievable. Edited January 18, 2015 by Sviss Geez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godden Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 She indoors went ape when i told her i was going to cook toad in the hole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iReason Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Suggest you watch how pigs are slaughtered in Thailand SP as it's horrific and certainly less 'humane' than the way in which the unfortunate dog was dispatched. You think? I suggest you watch this; That video was just plain nasty but had nothing in common to the way the dog was killed in the op if the report is to believed. Nor did your comparing it to the slaughtering of pigs. But, you brought it to the conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinchester Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Suggest you watch how pigs are slaughtered in Thailand SP as it's horrific and certainly less 'humane' than the way in which the unfortunate dog was dispatched. You think? I suggest you watch this; That video was just plain nasty but had nothing in common to the way the dog was killed in the op if the report is to believed. Nor did your comparing it to the slaughtering of pigs. But, you brought it to the conversation. Read the post I was replying to which suggested most animals which are killed for food here are killed humanely which many are definitely not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastcanje Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 A dog is mans best friend a chicken cow or pig fish etc are part of the food chain. Cruelty in all forms is disgusting however the killing of our food sources is mostly done human land the beast doesn't suffer and people will happily sit down and eat their leg of lamb without a second thought. However the other day the article on the ivory trade drew around 8 posts which really shows how much people care. Mankind has a lot to answer for! In many cases, the animals considered as "our food sources" aren't treated humanely either! Paul Macartney said that "...if slaughter houses had glass walls, everybody would be a vegeterian". After reading the information from "Farm Sanctuary", (google them), I stopped eating any mammal (almost two years now) and while I still eat poultry and seafood, I am considering giving that up also. I don't pretend to be better than those who kill and eat anything, it is my personal choice. Interestingly, Edgar Rice Burroughs who wrote the Tarzan series and also the Martian series, wrote (over a century ago) about one race of Martians rebuffing an earthling's shock at eating Martian humans of other races by comparing it to people on earth eating animals! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 She indoors went ape when i told her i was going to cook toad in the hole I don't think Mrs Toad would be pleased at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 As long as the dog was killed with a clean blow to the head, where is the cruelty. I mean fish are left to asphyxiate on the deck, surely that is cruel. If they start prosecuting like this this is going to start getting a bit stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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