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NLA's military members hold key to Yingluck case

Prapasri Osathanon
The Nation

Former PM may have sealed her own fate by dIsrespectIng assembly

BANGKOK: -- The political future of former prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra will be in the hands of military members of the National Legislative Assembly (NLA) when a vote is called tomorrow on whether she should be impeached over failure to stop corruption and losses in the rice-pledging scheme. The number of votes required for the impeachment of Yingluck is 132, or three-fifths.


Under normal political circumstances, impeachment attempts of key politicians have never been successful — for instance, the cases of ex-PM Somchai Wongsawat, ex-foreign minister Noppadon Pattama and former National Anti-Corruption Commis-sion member Pakdee Pothisiri.

But critics believe under the "abnormal" political situation in which the country is being run by the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO), there is a high probability that Yingluck will be impeached and banned from politics for five years.

This is because more than half of the NLA members are military officers. The composition of the NLA is 109 military officers, 9 police officers, 15 academics, 43 former senators and independent bodies, 32 state officials and 12 businessmen.

An insight into the military NLA group shows that most members - Deputy PM General Prawit Wongsuwan, Lt-General Preecha Chan-o-cha, Admiral Sithawat Wongsuwan, General Kittipong Keskovit and General Noppadon Intapunya - are closely connected to Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha.

If Prayut dropped any hints publicly about impeaching Yingluck, it would have been clear that Yingluck's political journey was about to be halted. But he has not sent any indication - not publicly at least - that he wants her impeached. In his previous interviews, Prayut has often said "let the justice system run its course".

Prawit had also insisted there would not be any lobbying or recommendations from top brass about the impeachment of key politicians from the previous government. The top brass does not want impeachment to affect the reconciliation and democracy road map, observers point out.

If the NLA vote freely, it would be tough to get 132 votes to impeach Yingluck. But what happened last week may have changed the scenario. Yingluck failed to attend the assembly to answer its queries in regard to the rice-pledging scheme and some of her lawyers have given media interviews in a manner that is disrespectful to the assembly.

Some military NLA members had reportedly been swayed towards impeachment. Besides, Yingluck on Tuesday was dealt a significant setback when the NACC decided to press charges against former commerce minister Boonsong Teriyapirom along with 18 associates and two private firms, for creating illegal government-to-government (G2G) rice sale deals.

The second serious blow Yingluck received was when a joint working group of anti-graft officials and public prosecutors agreed to indict her on a long-standing criminal case in regard to the rice-pledging scheme.

Some military officials who still have many years of service remaining before retirement may not be willing to do anything that would hamper their career paths.

There is no guarantee that the "old power" will not return, and if that is the case, the NLA members who vote to impeach Yingluck may have to live with the threat of revenge.

NLA members from business group may not want to put their businesses at risk because the network of the old power penetrates deep and wide into the country's economic sector.

Although no political observers have come out to predict Yingluck's fate, the impeachment sentiment is growing louder as the crucial vote nears. Those with power and political rivals of the Pheu Thai camp who are close to NLA have cited that if Yingluck escapes impeachment, the May 22 coup led by Prayut would be "a total waste" and a contradiction of the government's anti-corruption policy.

"The NLA, NCPO and the government must move in the same direction. If they intend to resolve the country's problems once and for all, [they must] not fear consequences, otherwise the May 22 coup would end up being a waste,'' an NLA source said.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/NLAs-military-members-hold-key-to-Yingluck-case-30252422.html

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-- The Nation 2015-01-22

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Interesting situation.

Be dammed if you do act and be dammed if you don't act.

The road to reconciliation is ion reality a minefield with those mines being placed in position by all political parties and hues.

However it is somewhat disturbing that the Rothschild seem to involved in Thailand's matters.

One is led to wonder just what inducements may have been or were offered to these international banker bandits to be so interested in Yingluck or Thailand itself or the Shinwatra clan.

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Place your bets, we shall soon see what comes to pass, Everything else is speculation. tongue.png

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Yes, her fate is sealed. It was sealed since May 22nd. whistling.gif Thai Democracy at its worst. bah.gif

Her fate was sealed when she appointed herself chair of the rice scheme scam and then didn't bother to turn up or really deal with the issues that many inside and outside Thailand pointed out to her. Greedy sibling who controlled one of those just indicted might have been the reason.

Whether she was just negligent through stupidity and/or laziness; knew what was going on but turned a blind eye to it; or actively involved is all open to conjecture. And, we'll probably never know.

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One for the conspiracy theorists.

The Rothschilds have a letter in the Bangok post defending Yingluck.

One up for the Illuminati

Wasn't Thaksin "groomed" to be their boy in S E Asia through his Wall Street connections?

That would explain is ability to easily get a US visa even as a convicted criminal fugitive.

The way he acts and runs his family - he should fit right in.

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One for the conspiracy theorists.

The Rothschilds have a letter in the Bangok post defending Yingluck.

One up for the Illuminati

Wasn't Thaksin "groomed" to be their boy in S E Asia through his Wall Street connections?

That would explain is ability to easily get a US visa even as a convicted criminal fugitive.

The way he acts and runs his family - he should fit right in.

Does anybody have more information, please, about the letter from the Rothchilds in Bangkok Post?

I do realize there is some form of embargo on materials from Bangkok Post.

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Concerning the Rothschild involvement one is reminded of the quotes below that are attributed to members of that particular banking family.

Was there an involvement in civil unrest over the recent years by the banking family, were promises made by those who were resident outside of Thailand?

Remember that politics and banking are indeed giants of promises and double dealing for those who wish to gain power and wealth.

​Indeed we are it would seem living in interesting times.

''Give me control of a nation’s money and I care not who makes its laws.”

“Buy when there’s blood running in the streets.”

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Yes, her fate is sealed. It was sealed since May 22nd. whistling.gif Thai Democracy at its worst. bah.gif

Her fate was sealed when she appointed herself chair of the rice scheme scam and then didn't bother to turn up or really deal with the issues that many inside and outside Thailand pointed out to her. Greedy sibling who controlled one of those just indicted might have been the reason.

Whether she was just negligent through stupidity and/or laziness; knew what was going on but turned a blind eye to it; or actively involved is all open to conjecture. And, we'll probably never know.

I think her fate was sealed ever since she was born Thaksin's darling sister.

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Yes, her fate is sealed. It was sealed since May 22nd. whistling.gif Thai Democracy at its worst. bah.gif

Try to keep up - this is a military junta. Thai democracy at its worst was the last administration.

And look at your DIC, opp's dear leader hero's actions and swearing and insulting comments too reporters yesterday not forgetting the incredibly intrusive security bill he say's hill will pass then claiming he has not ever infringed on any ones rights,

The corrupt ministers should be dealt with to the fullest of the law, and seems the NLA has a heavily stacked deck and this was decided a long time ago in back rooms

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Under normal political circumstances, impeachment attempts of key politicians have never been successful — for instance, the cases of ex-PM Somchai Wongsawat, ex-foreign minister Noppadon Pattama and former National Anti-Corruption Commis-sion member Pakdee Pothisiri.

But critics believe under the "abnormal" political situation in which the country is being run by the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO), there is a high probability that Yingluck will be impeached and banned from politics for five years.

Why can't we just all say "Inactive post" and "slap on the wrist" .... My way Thai way,.... clap2.gifclap2.gifclap2.gif

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Yes, her fate is sealed. It was sealed since May 22nd. whistling.gif Thai Democracy at its worst. bah.gif

Try to keep up - this is a military junta. Thai democracy at its worst was the last administration.

And look at your DIC, opp's dear leader hero's actions and swearing and insulting comments too reporters yesterday not forgetting the incredibly intrusive security bill he say's hill will pass then claiming he has not ever infringed on any ones rights,

The corrupt ministers should be dealt with to the fullest of the law, and seems the NLA has a heavily stacked deck and this was decided a long time ago in back rooms

So you're saying prosecute the corrupt ministers, but not the corrupt PM, because.................???

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I think that Lil sis might have a few too many secrets up her sleeve to take a fall on this one.

You mean she would cheat ?

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Under normal political circumstances, impeachment attempts of key politicians have never been successful — for instance, the cases of ex-PM Somchai Wongsawat, ex-foreign minister Noppadon Pattama and former National Anti-Corruption Commis-sion member Pakdee Pothisiri.

But critics believe under the "abnormal" political situation in which the country is being run by the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO), there is a high probability that Yingluck will be impeached and banned from politics for five years.

Why can't we just all say "Inactive post" and "slap on the wrist" .... My way Thai way,.... clap2.gifclap2.gifclap2.gif

Heck,many people were under the impression she was occupying an inactive post during her term in Parliament?

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Interesting situation.

Be dammed if you do act and be dammed if you don't act.

The road to reconciliation is ion reality a minefield with those mines being placed in position by all political parties and hues.

However it is somewhat disturbing that the Rothschild seem to involved in Thailand's matters.

One is led to wonder just what inducements may have been or were offered to these international banker bandits to be so interested in Yingluck or Thailand itself or the Shinwatra clan.

Probably because they are sitting on the trillion baht that is missing from the coffers.

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As a previous poster stated we "may never know the truth" there may well be just too many influences at play to allow those responsible to pay for their actions. The fact is there are still many obstacles to real justice being meted out to the former PM, many of them were referred to in this excellent article and ring depressingly true.

Does that mean we should let everything slide and let bygones be bygones? Not a chance, hopefully the decision tomorrow is a surprise and those involved have a chance to plead their case in defense of their political lives. The arrogance and contempt the previous government showed for their electorate when in power was both breath taking and lamentable, the financial cost to the country may well take many generations to clear.

If there are to be any changes to the attitudes and expectations of the population as a whole, then the wealthy, privileged and corrupt elite must be shown for what they are. This will not be an easy or quick process but a start must be made somewhere, and the sooner the better...

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One for the conspiracy theorists.

The Rothschilds have a letter in the Bangok post defending Yingluck.

One up for the Illuminati

Wasn't Thaksin "groomed" to be their boy in S E Asia through his Wall Street connections?

That would explain is ability to easily get a US visa even as a convicted criminal fugitive.

The way he acts and runs his family - he should fit right in.

Does anybody have more information, please, about the letter from the Rothchilds in Bangkok Post?

I do realize there is some form of embargo on materials from Bangkok Post.

There is a letter on the internet letters page signed by a someone Rothschild. I just though it was an astonishing coincidence, and that name doesn't get bandied around very often in general conversation does it.

The letter defends her claiming that she simply pursued a subsidy system, and no one had as yet been convicted of large scale corruption so how can she be prosecuted or empeached. Which is more or less my point of view, which makes me a little scared that my views might be in sink with anyone surnamed Rothschild

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One for the conspiracy theorists.

The Rothschilds have a letter in the Bangok post defending Yingluck.

One up for the Illuminati

Wasn't Thaksin "groomed" to be their boy in S E Asia through his Wall Street connections?

That would explain is ability to easily get a US visa even as a convicted criminal fugitive.

The way he acts and runs his family - he should fit right in.

Does anybody have more information, please, about the letter from the Rothchilds in Bangkok Post?

I do realize there is some form of embargo on materials from Bangkok Post.

There is a letter on the internet letters page signed by a someone Rothschild. I just though it was an astonishing coincidence, and that name doesn't get bandied around very often in general conversation does it.

The letter defends her claiming that she simply pursued a subsidy system, and no one had as yet been convicted of large scale corruption so how can she be prosecuted or empeached. Which is more or less my point of view, which makes me a little scared that my views might be in sink with anyone surnamed Rothschild

The plot thickens, methinks.

A send-in letter on an Internet board from someone signed 'rothschild'. Of course that must be the banker or my name isn't rubi rolleyes.gif

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Times are changing and maybe Ms. Yingluck will be part of that change, or

at least her future may be different than she thinks it will be.

Will her brother come back to Thailand to help in her defence?

Ha ha ha, sorry , my private joke!

It will be nice to see if a former PM actually suffered for their misuse of

their power. I guess time will tell.

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