webfact Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Greece eyes "mutual acceptable solution" to debt through dialogueEnglish.news.cnATHENS, Jan. 30 (Xinhua) -- Greece's new government eyes a mutual acceptable solution to the Greek sovereign debt through consultations with international lenders, newly elected Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras said on Thursday.Tsipras made the remarks following talks with visiting European Parliament President Martin Schulz in Athens in his first meeting with a European official after taking office."We are launching a dialogue to achieve a mutually acceptable and beneficial solution to all sides," Tsipras said during joints statements to the press, noting that such talks will take time.Welcoming Schulz as "a good friend of Greece" he stressed that his government enters the dialogue "with seriousness" and "guarantees stability."Radical Left SYRIZA leader, who formed a ruling coalition with the Right-wing Independent Greeks on an anti-bailout agenda after winning Sunday's national polls, has caused nervousness among Greece's international creditors, markets and investors with his alternative policy mix regarding the resolution of the debt crisis.Full story: http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/europe/europe/2015-01/30/c_127437775.htm-- Xinhua 2015-01-30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrtoad Posted January 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2015 Which means they are going to try and repay as little as possible. Look forward to the reintroduction of The Drachma and bargain holidays 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerangutang Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 "borrow as much as possible, pay back as little (or as late) as possible." That's the mantra of big businesses, rich people, and governments. I assume Greek chickens come home to roost, as do chickens from other countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 "borrow as much as possible, pay back as little (or as late) as possible." That's the mantra of big businesses, rich people, and governments. I assume Greek chickens come home to roost, as do chickens from other countries. yes... but only socialist governments get away with it !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costas2008 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Which means they are going to try and repay as little as possible. Look forward to the reintroduction of The Drachma and bargain holidays Wishful thinking, mrtoad. Unfortunately nothing will change. They will try and may be offered some better terms of repayment, just to keep everybody happy, but nothing significant will take place. Greece does not want to come out of the EU EU does not want Greece to come out. I only feel sorry for the desperate state Greece is in at the moment and I can't see that easing for very long in the future. Yes, it is Greece's fault for the wrongdoings, but my thoughts and sorrow is for the people suffering because of the stupidity and incompetence of the polititians. Not that the new one is any better than the others and I don't expect him to do much. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post manarak Posted January 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2015 Which means they are going to try and repay as little as possible. Look forward to the reintroduction of The Drachma and bargain holidays Wishful thinking, mrtoad. Unfortunately nothing will change. They will try and may be offered some better terms of repayment, just to keep everybody happy, but nothing significant will take place. Greece does not want to come out of the EU EU does not want Greece to come out. I only feel sorry for the desperate state Greece is in at the moment and I can't see that easing for very long in the future. Yes, it is Greece's fault for the wrongdoings, but my thoughts and sorrow is for the people suffering because of the stupidity and incompetence of the polititians. Not that the new one is any better than the others and I don't expect him to do much. And what can he do? The problem of making too little money will always come back to bite Greece in the ass. For a country to prosper, it needs a positive balance of payments. Greek trade balance has NEVER been positive in the last 20 years, maybe more. What does Greece export? Have a look at that paper: http://ec.europa.eu/economy_finance/publications/economic_paper/2014/pdf/ecp518_en.pdf "The puzzle of the missing Greek exports" which diagnoses that Greece doesn't export enough. But Greece doesn't have much to export - there's only so much olive oil that can be produced and demand for doric columns has died ! Fortunately, they discovered petroleum and Greece started in 2011 a programme to extract oil and export it, which was expected to yield about 15 Billion EUR a year - but now with these oil prices... Greece doesn't have much resources and doesn't produce much that can be exported, but the people there still want to have a high standard of living and healthcare, pensions. For today let's just borrow the money for that and let's worry about paying back later !! 555 crooks The oil will only last for so long, maybe it will add 15 billion to the budget for the next 20 years or maybe for 30 years if they discover new deposits. But oil won't last forever and it won't pay for everything. Greece needs to accept the country can't sustain the same standard of living as in countries which produce more, and at the same time they got to develop their exports. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepperMe Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Greece has never had the intention of pulling out of the EU. But it probably WILL pull out of the Euro. The Euro only works for the larger economies, that has been proven and is completely unsuitable for the smaller ones such as Greece. The Euro has been a disaster for many countries and has led to mass unemployment and the bailout of several countries. Greece, Portugal, Ireland, Spain and Cyprus with Ireland rightly exiting the bailout. The only way Greece can get back on track is to reinstate the Drachma and default. Even if this happens, the EU probably would not kick them out of the union, because it would start a topple. However, pulling out of the Euro, if even a slight recovery shows in the Greek economy, I would think the southern countries are likely to follow including Italy. How the EU would respond then is anyone's guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I was in Spain fairly recently and I can tell you that it is an unemployment nightmare. Also, I was watching a documentary from the USA about how they are no longer really manufacturing anything any more and job losses are huge. Does anyone else not see that as places like China and South East Asia manufacture more and improve their economies that the older countries like those in Europe and the USA and Australia must dwindle and fall. When I lived in China I was amazed to notice that every second car was a BMW 7 series. Not cheap. My opinion is that if you want to know where your jobs and economies have gone then ask your rich bosses when they will be starting to manufacture in your country again so that you can have a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Greece has beautiful beaches and history. Great for tourism and many have gone. Unfortunately tourists were treated so badly for so long many no longer return. The service industry may not be the best paying but jobs are jobs. Money coming into the country from outside whether from exports or tourism is worth double when compared to the domestic consumer driven economy. Greece has to get its civil service numbers and costs down to the levels of other European countries after years of a bloated bureaucracy. There will be lots of negotiation over the next six -ten months in Greece with the troika but only face saving changes if Greece wants to stay in the EU. Lots of uncertainty in the world, many currencies in free-fall, Ukraine-Russia etc, etc..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophon Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I guess there is no Greek equivalent to the saying "beggars can't be choosers". Sophon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukecan Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Its very sad to see the founders of modern medicine in this mess. The ancient greeks invented many things but the modern ones cant produce anything significant today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruzzzz Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 It is not the Greek governments, of any persuasion, to blame because the Greek people refuse to elect any politician who intends imposing fiscal responsibility. They won't reduce their standard of living so they will just keep borrowing until they are broke. How does a country go broke? Who is loaning them all this money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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